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it sounds like a mad scientist to me. the fact that he trashes the department of energy, trashes the fbi, he wouldn't let redfield in. the created report that he quoted, said he didn't remember the names of the people who wrote it. i think a moratorium on gain of function that redfield is suggesting is a good thing. let's just talk about, why do we have gain of function? apparently the whole purpose of gain of function is critical to be ahead of a virus. so they develop vaccines so that they can get rid of a virus should it happen. here was the opposite, the virus came and we didn't have a vaccine and the same vaccine the pharmaceuticals are not going for fda approval because if you look at the cdc numbers, adverse health reactions. probably never going to get it. that with fauci saying with the
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the other is that it was a natural occurrence from an animal spillover. the one thing is that we have to keep an open mind about this until there is definitive evidence. >> dana: judge, i thought dr. redfield was measured and persuasive in the way that he presented his thoughts and feelings. as a witness under oath, he was making his case. >> judge jeanine: he made a case and i think he made a good one. interesting yesterday we were talking about fauci and jim jordan was saying that it was about covering his butt. jesse, you opined that it was about pharmaceuticals on the money he was making. i read a quote from dr. fauci from ten years ago. i think it's worse. i think the motivation to not want to know the truth is worse. "if the pandemic should occur and a scientist is bitten by an animal, it would be worth the knowledge, the benefits of such experiments and resulting knowledge outweigh the risks."
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throughout history, there's always been scientist to push things a little too far and society says you know what, science, let's dial it back. not dr. fauci. dr. fauci may have financed a virus. may have. with u.s. taxpayer dollars, in order to get ahead of it to get the vaccines up and running. pandemic explodes and he says we are willing to do it again. he just did it! if that's the case. if anderson cooper, he is a "60 minutes" guy, supposed to have journalistic credentials. he gets up there with paper trail, money trail, fauci is throwing grant money around to scientists who sang his tune with the wet market deal and anderson cooper saint you think this new congress is going to be as combative? come on, anderson, you are better than that.
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emails. saying it's not good for china. fauci, we were bamboozled by him for far too long. >> dana: he didn't testify today but the chairman of the subcommittee said it could happen. you've been waiting for some of these hearings to get underway. today there was a bunch but today, do you feel like there is some movement? >> jesse: a little momentum. i always thought we were going to arrest him but we are not going to arrest him. if they do a referral to department of justice, merrick garland is just going to laugh. >> geraldo: arrest who? >> jesse: dr. fauci. >> geraldo: come on. >> jesse: i am saying for perjury. he lied under oath to rand paul. probably half a dozen times. everybody lies to congress. why can't we prosecute one person? if anybody should be prosecuted for lying to congress, it should be him. you are right about this gain of function. he is a gain of function zealot.
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backside. everybody knows it. the highest-paid guy in our government giving all kinds of money to tell us things that were not accurate because we now know u.s. tax dollars went to a lab in china, a lab that was not up to code, a lab doing gain-of-function research and that's where this thing most definitely came from. >> dana: former cdc had robert redfield claims fauci left him out of high-level discussions because he didn't agree with fauci's wet market narrative. >> this pandemic did not start in january at the seafood market. we know there was infections all the way back in september. they wanted a single narrative. i obviously had a different point of view. science has debate and they squashed any debate and they strongly recommend we have a moratorium on gain-of-function research. >> dana: dr. fauci still not sold on the lab leak theory. >> it still remains unknown at this particular point. there are two theories, as we are all familiar with. one is a lab leak theory.
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events that we saw on january 6th may be a step in the right direction, given everything else that has unfolded. >> right. and i appreciate your point there because that speaks to the levels of this. i think some of the concern about the injustices and disparities of the past we've covered. today is an example that would appear to be about righting some of that going forward, treating this on the terror footing that so many others have been targeted with. again, viewers know we'll be tracking the real numbers, not just the press conference. professor murray, on more than one topic tonight, thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> absolutely. coming up, the politics of covid or the covid of politics. dr. fauci going at rand paul. we'll show you that and an incredible moment of police saving a life, in all likelihood. the remarkable video, we'll show it to you. that's coming up. that's coming up
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