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December 23, 2018
"deficient lawyering." >> it was just too neat, the way the case was put together. it was something wrong. >> and what was wrong involved jarrod hessling, the sole eyewitness to the murder, who immediately after the crime told police that linda rodgers murderer was a white man. hey uh, quick question. do you like paying for things you dont need? no. and do you want to get things you love for free? who wouldnt? exactly! right. dad, apple music. he gets it. this guy gets it. (vo) get six months fr...
December 23, 2018
The judge ruled in their favor. the privacy act trumps my constitutional rights. >> now running out of options, c.j. turned to the court of public opinion, creating an online petition to demand the release of the dna results. >> the petition is just asking the d.a.s office to either release the results of the dna evidence to the defense or to exonerate kenneth clair. thats why we have 161,000 people, because its a logical question. i had plans on talking -- writing letters to obama and jerry bro...
December 23, 2018
Crime. >> scott moxley, along with c.j. ford, believed the case against kenneth clair was full of holes, and they soon came to believe that the most damning evidence against clair had been bought and paid for by the orange county d.a.s office. to give than to receive.ter some may disagree. others wont believe it. and some just wont have the words. join t-mobile and get the samsung galaxy s9 free. right? but hurry offer ends soon. ♪ our because of smoking.ital. but we still had to have a cigare...
December 23, 2018
He had a witness. >> that night i went to the pub. thats where i met curtis sleed. every thursday thats where i would meet him at. wed shoot pool, drank beer, watch a game that was on television. then i had to find me somewhere to sleep. that was that night. >> the public defenders office was saying they couldnt find curtis lee because there were asian people with the last name of lee and there were too many of them and they couldnt single it out. but they werent really looking. i took the case ...
December 23, 2018
Going to visits, just that daily routine there. then i was believing in the system, thinking that you know, eventually the case is going to be overturned because i know i didnt do this. >> in 2004, after nearly two decades of failed appeals, a friend of clairs hired private investigator c.j. ford. c.j. went to death row to meet kenneth clair face to face. >> when i first met kenneth clair, he was angry. he thought that he had been betrayed and nobody was helping him with his case. i do wrongful ...
December 23, 2018
>> at the trial two years later jarrod was not called to the witness stand by the prosecution or the defense attorney, julian bailey. so jarrods identification of a white man as the murderer was never told to the jury. >> the 5-year-old boy said a number things that were inconsistent. he said it was a black man. he said it was a white man. julian bailey chose not to call him. but nonetheless, there was so much evidence in the case that it wouldnt have changed the result. >> i dont think it was a...
December 23, 2018
Make me mad. >> they told me that if im lying about it theyre going to throw my ass in jail for accessory to murder. >> what you fail to realize, how the mother [ muted ] police proved i was there. aint no [ muted ] body seen me go in there and leave out of there. thats what im saying. >> kenneth clair was charged with murder. shortly after his arrest the case against clair got even stronger. >> we were reading a newspaper and clairs picture was in there. >> my mom goes do you see anybody that l...
December 23, 2018
Caught pauline at a very vulnerable point in her life and they used her. they gave her a story to tell, and she did her best to follow that script. >> scott sanders has investigated corruption in the o.c. d.a.s office for years and believes both peggy and pauline were manipulated in clairs case. >> what i saw that was important was how particularly they were treating a couple of the critical witnesses in the case. you look at pauline floress case, the warrant got taken care of. and somehow mike ...
December 23, 2018
There. >> most burglars, their objective is to go in and retrieve property without encountering anyone. >> roberta harding joined clairs defense in 1990. >> why would you go back to the place you were just released from prison for being arrested for burglarizing it earlier? he might as well have just left his i.d. card or something. >> clair was released from jail for the burglary just hours before the murder. c.j. believes police targeted clair from the start. >> they had their radar on him all...
December 23, 2018
Sir. >> i think it was 20 years had passed and curtis lee had issues with drugs and alcohol and he was in a rehab center when i found him. and he wasnt, you know, too coherent about dates. >> but the person himself i dont remember because i was doing a little partying back then. i may have run across this gentleman and kicked it with him a few times. >> while curtis lee no longer proved reliable, c.j. wondered what else clairs attorney, public defender julian bailey, may have missed in the case....