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July 8, 2022
Smart guy. and i think hes stayed away from people like roger stone and general flynn, who were boasting these links to the proud boys and other extremist groups. but he may know something, and he may have some knowledge because there were also pardons requested by some of these people. and he may have taken a look into it there. i dont -- theres no privilege in his review of pardon material that i know of. >> very good point. >> and i had the same function once. >> indeed you did. john dean, ji...
July 8, 2022
Schultz, on the attorney/client privilege idea here, i mean, you obviously were inside the white house counsels office in the west wing during the trump administration. and of course, as many of us lay people who are not lawyers understand it, attorney/client privilege does not apply when criminal acts are being undertaken. weve heard a lot of testimony that suggests that mr. cipollone repeatedly was advising the president not to do things he wanted to do or said that he wanted to do because he ...
July 8, 2022
Privilege. so, my background in that is a little different than where we are today, where i think there is executive privilege is owned by the incumbent president, joe biden. and there is some lingering relationship between the form erin er incumbent and his aides, but the issue of executive privilege belongs to this president, the sitting president. and i think the courts have pretty well clarified that. and a lot of decisions have already been made about the trump effort to shield some of his ...
July 8, 2022
Could that potentially, potentially limit the impact of his testimony? >> well, i would expect that there would be in the course of an entire day interview, on the record that he knows is being videotaped and tribecaed, i would expect they ask questions that he would assert executive privilege or attorney/client privilege. i would be surprised if he didnt. but the fact that he was willing to sit for the interview, permit it to be videotaped, permit it to transcribed, responded to the subpoena, s...
July 7, 2022
>> pat cipollone. >> white house counsel pat cipollone. >> mr. trumps former white house counsel pat cipollone. >> there you go. there will, of course, be limitations, due to executive and attorney/client privilege. but its still a very big deal. this is someone who spent a significant amount of time with the ex-president while he was in office before, during, and after january 6th. he is a witness who could potentially help fill in lots of critical blanks. remember, hutchinson testified that ci...
July 7, 2022
Cipollone informally. getting him on tape allows them to use it in the hearing next week and thats important. >> cipollone as an attorney has some things he will choose he can and cannot say? >> yeah. there are a few things binding him here. we talked a lot about executive privilege. thats something like steve bannon and mark meadows who has a stronger claim to executive privilege, thats been tied up in court. for cipollone because hes a lawyer theres the open question of maybe attorney/client p...
July 6, 2022
Have you ever heard a story and thought, โThat only happens in the movies!โ? Well, this story may invoke that thought, but unfortunately for one lawyer, it transpired in real life....
July 2, 2022
Latitude to do so. i think hes using the fact that theres attorney/client privilege, which is legitimate. he has sort of a shield to ensure that, for example, he doesnt testify publicly or to try to limit the testimony from the -- that he would give to certain topics. >> after all, there is historical precedent for a white house counsel testifying. look at john dean during watergate, right? renato, we have to leave the conversation there. as always, appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> of cour...
June 30, 2022
Fake electors scheme or with cassidy hutchinson, the issue of the rally at the capitol, cipollone keeps saying to these people dont do that, its illegal, you will be violating the law, you will be committing a crime. that warning is incredibly important, especially if it went to donald trump and he went ahead anyway. so thats why hes so important and thats why the committee wants to hear from him. >> we should expect, though, that hes going to claim privilege in certain situations, right? i mean...
June 30, 2022
Complicated situation. you know, a private attorney has more or less an absolute privilege not to disclose what he says to a client, however, a government attorney, the law is a little more complicated and a little more flexible and the attorney has more flexibility to talk about things, but the law is almost irrelevant here. all thats relevant is what cipollone wants to talk about and what he may do is say, look, i will tell you about advice i gave to everyone except donald trump because that r...