tomorrow o vo tomorrow s vote will be the first step toward taking the investigation public. explosive testimony given by lieutenant colonel alexander vindman. he was the first witness to testify who actually heard the president s call to the ukraine president. he told the white house this transcript edited out crucial details, details he unsuccess fortunatelily tri unsuccessfully tried to get back into the transcript. he said trump tried to pressure the ukraine president. even suggesting that his long-time servant didn t hear what he said he heard. he s not the only one listening to the call. there are a number of individuals listening to the call and they put the transcript together. so if one person disagrees, it s a collective group that decides, not the president. i can t say exactly what he said, but the changes that were outlined in the press were not a big deal, if in fact that was the case. joining me, msnbc correspondent garrett hague, and shannon pettipiece
Night at the same time everybody else found out about it when the president tweeted, something big just happened. they told nbc news that mulvaney s lack of knowledge is not a reflection of his status with the president. but according to the man who literally wrote the book about the white house chief of staff, it s a sign mulvaney is now invisible. quote, only in a completely dysfunctional white house would the chief of staff be out of the loop on something so significant. joining me, correspondent carol lee and cliff whitman, the author of the gatekeepers. carol, let s start with the white house explanation for why mulvaney wasn t in the room. chris, one senior administration official told us, look, the element of surprise was critical here and it was a very small group that was informed about this. what, he couldn t keep it