center of the bridgegate issues. former christie campaign manager, bill steppian, whom christie said he fired for his tone, not for involvement in these lane closings, and bridgette ann kelly, christie s former deputy chief of staff. kelly, of course, had a direct link to the lane closings, because of that infamous e-mail, quote, time for some traffic problems in ft. lee, to which david wildstein replied, got it. the legislature has seen testimony and documents from both of them, and wildstein invoked his fifth amendment right against self-incrimination, refusing to testify. on the advice of my counsel, i respectfully assert my right to remain silent under the united states and new jersey constitutions. kelly and steppian asserted a similar claim, arguing that she, both of them, really, could refuse the committee s request for documents. their lawyers sought these subpoenas invoking past cases where pretty broad document requests were found to be a violation of a person s
continually remind the american public that this precious thing we have is a vote. i notice that in one of the opinions by the chief justice, he talked about how he d look at all these elected black people all over the place. i would only remind him that today there is not a single black elected official in the united states senate and there has not been a single black elected official in the senate since barack obama left it. now, that isn t exactly full inclusion, and i don t think you can point to various parts of this country and pretend that somehow we have solved all of our problems. there s no such thing as post-racial, by the way. that s an american illusion. what it is is an improvement in many areas of our society, and a need for vigilance on the part of all of us about the rights of our fellow human beings. clifford alexander, secretary of the united states army under president charter. sir, it is a great honor to have you here. thank you so much. thanks for having me ag
the united states supreme court we ought to keep the federal ban on gay marriage for just that purpose. the court agreed with him on the idea of the difficulty of having a nonuniform standard, but they made the decision opposite to what he was asking them to do. those decisions, those supreme court decisions this week, ended up putting the u.s. military, members of the u.s. military right in the middle of this now patchwork of legal rights for gay and lesbian couples we have around the country. will the military now be forced to discriminate against some of its soldiers and not against others depending on where a base is located? if the military is put in that difficult of a position, will the military now be put in the position to at least implicitly drive more states toward equality? joining us now for the interview clifford alexander, secretary of the united states army under president carter and chairman of the u.s. equal employment opportunity commission under president johnson.
now, that isn t exactly full inclusion, and i don t think you can point to various parts of this country and pretend that somehow we have solved all of our problems. there s no such thing as post-racial, by the way. that s an american illusion. what it is is an improvement in many areas of our society, and a need for vigilance on the part of all of us about the rights of our fellow human beings. clifford alexander, secretary of the united states army under president charter. sir, it is a great honor to have you here. thank you so much. thanks for having me again. i appreciate it. he is a man who knows of what he speaks. president johnson s civil rights counsel. he was there in person when the voting rights act was signed. we ll be right back. [ snoring ] [ male announcer ] zzzquil™ sleep-aid. [ both snoring ] [ male announcer ] it s not for colds. it s not for pain. it s just for sleep. [ snoring ] [ male announcer ] because sleep is a beautiful thing™.
is located? if the military is put in that difficult of a position, will the military now be put in the position to at least implicitly drive more states toward equality? joining us now for the interview clifford alexander, secretary of the united states army under president carter and chairman of the u.s. equal employment opportunity commission under president johnson. mr. secretary, thank you for being with us again. it s an honor to have you here. thank you so much. glad to be with you, rachel. the pentagon says it is eager to enforce these civil rights rulings so it can stop discriminating against some service members and their families. do you think it is unusual to have the pentagon speaking to clearly and so quickly on this matter? i think it is good that they spoke clearly. i do think that the efficiency that is within the pentagon will see to it that the rules are carried out as they should be carried out. i also believe that it would be a good idea if the civilian sid