if you're in phoenix, there's no escaping the heat. it's a sign of something called urban heat island. what that is -- that's a big term. as you -- the cities get built up and built up, the infa ra infrastructure, and the co concrete, it holds on to the heat. >> urban heat island. people say phoenix, it's a dry heat. doesn't apply here. we're dogging talking about tems that change the way people live there. there's something happening in the ocean. >> if you look in the gulf coast, in the florida cease. we're seeing the temperature in the ocean, exceeding 90 degrees. it's the highest temperature for the surface in the florida keys sings 1985. those waters are hot.
bury fukushima in co concrete. our next guest has been to chernobyl. crews there ran out of options and decided to bury chernobyl. what is different about chernobyl and fukushima in terms of the burying? is that a possibility? is that a good idea? are we at that point? >> i think what we need to focus on right now is can they get more water on top of the external spent fuel storage pools because that will help to shield the radiation and buy more time and make a determination about whether you put sand on there or other material. certainly if necessary down the line putting it in n. concrete may be the option. >> how much time do we have about? what are the variables in terms of stretching it and shrinking it? >> we are at an interesting point in the crisis because there is really sort of two elements.
bury fukushima in co concrete. our next guest has been to chernobyl. crews there ran out of options and decided to bury chernobyl. what is different about chernobyl and fukushima in terms of the burying? is that a possibility? is that a good idea? are we at that point? >> i think what we need to focus on right now is can they get more water on top of the external spent fuel storage pools because that will help to shield the radiation and buy more time and make a determination about whether you put sand on there or other material. certainly if necessary down the line putting it in n. concrete may be the option. >> how much time do we have about? what are the variables in terms of stretching it and shrinking it? >> we are at an interesting point in the crisis because there is really sort of two elements. thfirst is the reactors