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the world's largest oil reserves. now hugo chavez has announced his cancer is back. a chart, changing of the guard there could have a huge impact on the globlt oil market. we'll have details. so much pot, so few answers. legalized marijuana laws take effect in washington state and colorado. from driving high to trafficking weed over sttte borders the legal and financial nightmares are just beginning. but we're convening a pot power panel to help clear the smoke. even when they say it's not it is always about money. melissa: first let's look at the day's market headlines. some breaking news on aig just out a short time ago. the treasury announced it is selling all of its remaining 234 common shares in the insurance giant however treasury will continue to hold warrants to purchase aig common stock. investors refusing to give up hope on the fiscal cliff. the dow and s&p 500 gained post-election day tumble. the dow climbed 13 points for its fourth straight game. more trouble for once untouchable apple. jeffries cut its price target by 100 bucks down to $480 a share. shares fell by more than half a percent on the news. now on to our top story. tonight is taxes and how hard we are all about to get hit. there are already a trillion in tax increases baked right into the obamacare law and that means upper being in earners will see billions of dollars in tax hikes as it is. for democrats it is not enough. with republican lawmakers backing off the pledge not to raise taxes looks like tax hikes for the wealthy are certainty. joining for more, grover norquist, president of americans for tax reform. thanks so much for joining us. >> absolutely you say a lot of people are missing the fact that obamacare baked in a ton of tax hikes for wealthier americans as it is? >> people talk about the fiscal cliff as if it is one thing. it is three. there's the obamacare taxes. to pay for obamacare were delayed until after he got himself safely elected. so in the next decade there are a trillion dollars of higher taxes. five of those big ones start january 1st. that is one part. part two, the bush tax cuts disappearing. that is $500 billion tax increase next year, 2013. and then the third part which is the spending restraint, sequester, which obama wants to put off. that would save 1.2 trillion over a decade. he wants to put it off and spend the 1.2 trillion. melissa: all true but, you know what? at this point it seems like it is not resonating with the averaae american. go out and look at polls. quinnipiac said 77% of all republicans think it is a bad idea for lawmakers to promise never to raise taxes. >> no, no, read that poll. melissa: reading it verbatim. >> the question was, should you not raise taxes on the high income earners, whatever. melissa: to never raise taxes on wealthy under any circumstance? >> okay. the pledge of course is not to raise taxes period. the pledge is also to the american people not to any one group of people. so the good news is, also, when you ask people, even the ones who say it would be okay to raise taxes on high income people, if we raise taxes for the fiscal cliff or for debt ceiling, do you believe the will also raise taxes on middle class. 60% percent of americans understand that once the politicians get the bloodlust out there, once they smell the blood in the water, once they raise taxes on the few, they go after the many. melissa: oh, i absolutely believe that's right but i think that the point is the republicans are losing momentum on the side of not raising taxes. that it is starting to feel more and more like there must be some concession, there must be some caving to get through the fiscal cliff. when you look at senators who have said they're going back on the pledge, lindsey graham, bob corker, tom coburn, lamar alexander, eric cantor, what do you do at this point to keep the fight going? or do you think that it is necessary to concede a little bit of ground? >> well, two things. the senators, the republican senators to a certain extent don't matter because the democratic senate can pass a tax increase if they want the senaaors you mentioned would only vote for a tax increase if they got massive permanent entitlement reforms of the kind that harry reid and the president have announced they're not doing. so even if coburn broke his commitment to the people of oklahoma, which he got a elected with a written commitment not to raise taxes at all, his new statement is, he might raise tax as little if he got permanent reform. melissa: do you ffle the tide is turning against you and necessary to give in a little bit to get a deal done or not? >> okay. there is no need to raise taxes to get a deal. obama two years ago extended all the bush tax cuts for two years. there is no reason not to do that again. his reason --. melissa: he will not agree to it though. seems like the only way to get a deal done here is to give an inch much of ground? >> there is no deal if he wants to raise taxes. -phe can veto any, the republicans have already passed through the house making those tax cuts permanent. if the gnat, which hasn't acted, hasn't voted, remember the reason why we have this odd position of some of the weird polling that you're talking about which is different than the traditional polling is that we've had a news blackout about what goes on inside these negotiations. we've been insisting that we should have those negotiations between boehner, reid, everybody forgets harry reid is in the room and obama with c-span cameras there so every american can see what actually happens. if they saw what they're talking about, we would have a much better deal at the end of the day. melissa: i don't know. i think we would all be in agony watching what was happening there. >> you wouldn't have to watch the whole thing but somebody could tell you what happened. melissa: grover, thanks so much. here is our "money" question of the day, should grover norquist give into tax hikes? many of you mentioned he is not elected official. we know what you mean. like us on facebook.co facebook.com/melissafrancisfox or foal neon twitter -- follow me on twitter at melissa a francis. detroit is the latest possibility of being latest and biggest city to file for chapter 9 bankruptcy. detroit mayor binge said the city will lay off 400 to 500 workers in the nexx few months. it will take a lot more than that to keep the city from going broke. we're joined by michigan senator rick jones. thanks for joining me, senator, do yoo think if they dot latest layoffs will it satisfy the milestones the city needs in order to get more state aid? >> it is gooddstart and but not enough. we have a city council totally dysfunctional. recently mayor bing asked them to come in, they said we're on holiday. it is unbelievable. melissa: you said they think they deserve a bailout. what makes you think that they feel? >> detroit city councill3 woman came on national tv and said, president obama, we all voted for you. it is time to bring the bacon. bail us out. that's outrage just. that folks think they can just spend money like no tomorrow and expect anybody else to bail them out. my constituents from mid michigan are saying no bailout. they need to fix the city theirselves. melissa: this is something going on all across the country. it is why we take so much interest in this. we've seen counties or cities at least going bankrupt elsewhere around the country. you see whole states. i worry what will eventually happen with california as a whole. but it seems like, you know, this is the status quo. people believe that the state or the feds will come in and bail them out. do you have the political will in your state to really say no? >> i blow we do. you know, michigan is on a, you know, ground here. we're doing very well. we have a balanced budget every year. we're required by our state constitution. we don't have a problem. it is time for all the cities to wake up and balance their budget. melissa: yeah. what do you think is really going to happen here? there are a couple of other plans that are possible. you talk about appointing a emergency manager to come through and make all the tough cuts. but as i understand it, there was a law firm that was supposed to come in and do that and city council voted them down. >> that's true. the governor made an offer, would you like an emergency manager to come in, a law firm and help you? and they said absolutely not. we'll just run it ourselves. give us more money. melissa: doing a great job, so why would they possibly bring anyone else in to help. another plan to dissolve the city and incorporate to wayne county. this is something we heard a lot about. doesn't this put their troubles back on everyone else's plate? >> the problem with detroit they have lost 25% of their population in a decade. a person left every 22 minutes. so it has had such a shrinkage in population. they have a lot of land simply not being used. sitting there vacant. it may be time to ccnsider dissolving the city and re-energizing it with a smaller city. it could be. pelissa: you even take it one step further. size of the city byuce the bulldozing abandon the properties. could you really, i mean that is an interesting idea. could you really do that? what would it take? is it legal? and how would it help? >> well, we have a lot of prooerty the city has taken in. they're paying no taxes. it is just basically vacant property. and i know there are businessmen that have offered to come in and help, perhaps put agriculture in the area. something to pay a few taxes. so far the city council says no. melissa: so why would bulldozing it and making the city smaller, are you talking about bulldozing land no one owns it? i guess i don't understand the details of that? >> a lot of property has gone back to the city for lack of paying taxes. we simply have vacant buildings. even a few burned out homes. and so it is time to make the city safer by getting rid of those vacant homes. melissa: if you had to bet, what would you bet is really going to happen here? >> well, right now i think it will drag out for a while. we're all hoping the city council comes to their senses. nobody wants to see a bankruptcy. if that happens, vultures come in and they will pick up all the jewels of city. cobo hall. we have belle isle. i hope it doesn't ever happen but we have the detroit institute of arts down there. and who knows what would be purchased, what would be gone forever. melissa: i don't know. vultures by an investor might be a good solution. give us an update as more happens. a fascinating story. >> thanks. melissa: news that hugo chavez that his days could be numbered. why his death would send oil markets into a state of upheaval. getting your heart's desire. weed is officially legal in washington state in colorado. firing up the fatties is creating a cloud of financial and legal woes. who will come out ahead when all that smoke clears? 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with me, john kingston, platt's global director. welcome back to the show. this is huge. we've been following this for a long time but i mean it's very serious. emergency surgery. it is his third surgery. he never talked about what kind of cancer he has but at this point it has got to be very serious? >> i think we can assume the chavez area is almost over. as colleague of mine said i heard you refer earlier why that is setting up uncertainty in the market. you're always a little better with the crazy that you do know than the one you don't. melissa: i guess. >> what the future holds could be civil strife, not a civil war but i have felt for a long time that the biggest risk in oil markets would be a precipitous collapse of the venezuelan industry. you hate to think that the death of mr. chavez would set that off but ped vest is a, the state oil company has been essentially gutted by chavez. can it hold together without any sort of leadership at all? it is a scary situation. melissa: i went down to venezuela for an opec meeting and it was pretty much a meeting by gunpoint. even as media were led around with machine guns basically trained on us the whole time. the whole country was very much in lockdown. >> it has probably gotten worse now. melissa: what does that mean if the person behind all that is suddenly gone? pt seems like it would create quite a vacuum. he is speaking out for his vice president but no hose? >> compare something to libya. in libya about the only institution that made sense, that worked like a normal world institution would work was the state oil company which was known as noc, national oil company. in venezuela it is completely different. pedevasa is arm of hugo chavez. how does the venezuelan oil industry stay together and move forward when it has become so completely politicized. the libyans have come back nicely. their production was where it was before. they had the institution that sort of hung together. they're not going to have that in venezuela. melissa: at the same time no one can ignore this country. at the last opec meeting, the minister from venezuela, stood up and said, we now have the world's largest oil reserves backed by bp saying that they have more than saudi arabia. >> but a lot of those are oil sands, very heavy reserves. you know, an api gravity of six doesn't mean much to most people but almost like a tar. extremely high cost of production the fact if they had gone through with reforms put in place in the mid-'90s under the leadership of a man named giusti, they would be producing 3.5, 3.6 million barrels a day. instead they're producing by our estimates and estimates of most, 2.3 million barrels a day. they tell the world they're producing 2.7. nobody believes them. you can see just the impact of hugo chavez. he has just gutted this industry. melissa: yeah. >> you really have to think this would be a better day for venezuelan oil but could be pretty rocky getting there. melissa: just for comparison, saudi arabia is five to six times that out put on given day. >> for sure. melissa: they saying this they have more reserves. saudi arabia disputes that. >> talking about u.s. reserves of oil shale in the rockies and they're there and trillions of barrels. insanely expensive to produce. oil intense sieve. you can count them but stretch to count. melissa: if he dies what happens to oil the next day? how nervous are the markets? how big of a deal is this? >> that's a good question. i think the markets would be reasonably nervous and i tend not to think that way. melissa: yeah. you're a very calm guy about this stuff. >> here i am but -- but i do think that given that. pede investment as is hold by spit and bailing wire and. on other hand people who will be most cared are chinese get half a million barrels a day for loans of the cubans get it essentially for free. they have to be really worried. i always thought the venezuelan output was always hanging by a thread and even death in short term of mr. chavez wouldn't fix that. melissa: it will be fascinating to watch. wow! john kingston, thanks as always. terrific. time for today's fuel gauge report. oil prices fell for the fifth straight session. rising inventories and economic jitters pushed crude down 37 cents. settling $85.57 a barrel. that is one-month low. good news for drivers. u.s. gas prices fell to a 11-month loy. that is according to the latest lundberg survey. the $3.38 a gallon, down 10 cents in three weeks. not bad. saudi arabia said a cyberattack on state-owned giant aramco was launched by several foreign states. the saudi government didn't specifically names. citing a ongoing investigation. a virus hit 30,000 aramco computers in august, aiming to shut down production. this is the new frontier by the way. >> chris mass comes early for -- christmas comes early for pot lovers in colorado and washington. whoo-hoo. with the legal mess just beginning it is anything but a smokers paradise. we bring in a pot panel. why not? 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[ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop preteing. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk. ♪ . melissa: legalized marijuana, perfect song, right is new frontier. along with unexpected and potentially costly issues. everything how car insurance companies will handle people driving under the influence to crossing state lines with weed. so we have another "money" power panel today although we call it a pot power panel, because we like alliteration. attorneys joey jackson, rebecca nikem. and chancellor of oakster university, dale jones. somebody raised this issue other day, showing a great story. studies show you don't drives a well when you're stoned. >> really? come on. melissa: it is shocking. at the same time very difficult for local authority to enforce the law. >> you're right, melissa. it is a lot different, with alcohol you have this thing called a breathalyzer, right? you blow into the tube and comes out with some reading but what i think will happen is what they do with alcohol also. they say they stopped you. why? there is usually predicate for the stop, associated with bad driving. you're swerving on the road. going too quickly. that is the predicate. that's why they stop you. when they stop you say you had waterry bloodshot eyes, they smelled the odor of mayor one. melissa: odor is pretty telling? not that i wouldd3 know. >> pretty telling, yes. harder part, melissa, how they test the level. the police can't just go and take your blood which is the most effective test but in the event you hurt someone, cause serious physical injury at worse, death they can draw the blood after warrant. that will tell amount of nano grams in tte system, that could strike a death knell to any defense. melissa: rebecca, isn't that hard to prove or regulate or set a yardstick against? i'm told night same like alcohol level like .08. above that you're guilty. marijuana stays in the system longer, different impact on people. doesn't that make it tougher for law enforcement? >> absolutely. it does stay in the blood. they're concerned people will found guilty driving under the influence. we have something called the drug recognition experts. they're used on day-to-day basis when somebody is pulled over for what they believed was an alcohol infraction and turns out what joke which was talking about when they blow into the meter and it comes out 0.0. why are they driving the way that they drove and why did they fail the field sobriety tests? ah, they must be under the influence of drugs which could include prescriptions. and what's been happening with these drug recognition experts that we have been challenging their expert tees. and it turns out that we have somebody from dr. jeffrey janeska from johns hops kins. everybody heard about johns hopkins. he base say said you can flip a coin. these drug recognition experts are police officers and do not have the ability to take care of this. melissa: i hear you. dale, you say that, using marijuana can improve your focus. is that true? >> well --. melissa: that was for dale. go ahead. >> okay. >> it can improve and does improve focus but that is not always a good thing if you're behind the wheel of a car if ou're not focused actually driving. there are several studies and some show that small amounts of cannabis on can improve importance. some studies show it is detrimental. we don't have enough research on the subject to say for sure. there is not a scientific tie between the nano gram limit to blood levels to performance the way we currently have with alcohol. melissa: joey, this is exactly what worries me. we changed the law and haven't thought about all the possible negative externalities come along with it. we haven't figured out how to deal with this problem, driving. how about insurance companies? how about insurance companies saying they don't want to give someone insurance because they're a medical marijuana user, immediately they will be hit there are some different things. >> by one of us vicious lawyers, right? melissa: i love lawyers, especially when i need one. >> exactly. you're absolutely right there could be a parade of horribles and could be unintended consequences that come about assa result of this. the problem we're presupposing as a result of this legalization people will be totally irresponsible. however, even if we don't presuppose that, you can presume because it is legal and more accessible there is higher rate and risk for people to drive in an impaired condition. melissa: yeah. >> i do think ultimately, right the law is ahead of the regulations. they're going to be rules an regulations that catch up but they're just not caught up as of yet to your point. melissa: i don't know. dale, another concern is, what if you're in a state where using marijuana is legal and then you cross the border to another state. it is still in your system. what can the law do to you in that case? >> well you do have to be very aware of the zip code you're in as well as the badge that pulls ou over. unfortunately because of the patchwork of laws and regulations from state to state it would matter if you were pulled over in say oklahoma. you can go to prison for a very long time. it is important to know where you are, what you're doing and behave responsibly under that state law. importantly, if you're consuming any drug, be it cannabis, prescription drugs, alcohol, that you don't operate heavy machinery or drive immediately afterwards because this is about behavior on the road. but we have to make sure that we're focused on the science of this issue, not the scare tactics. i want to point out that the transportation bureau tracks, traffic fatalities with respect to marijuana and the numbers are so low in our emergency rooms as to be unreportable. the people that want to smoke pot and get behind the wheel already are. and what we need is research and education campaign to insure that the people that are under the influence of any drug do not get behind the wheel. melissa: now that you're legalizing it in places the use will grow. so the incidence will grow and we have a lot more area to test what could possibly happen. that makes me nervous as a driver. rebecca, i will give you last word. >> 10,800 people killed drinking and driving. 40,000 people died because of alcohol. 400,000 died because of smoking. the numbers for marijuana are incredibly low. you can't overdose. you don't get cancer from it. and i --. melissa: i hear you, rebecca. we don't want to add to any of those numbers. one more [raul talking at once]. we've got to leave it there. thanks to our pot power panel. you were all fantastic. hope you come back. bizarre warnings from syria's regime. they claim it could be framed for using chemical weapons. there are unconfirmed reports their use may have already begun. we'll talk about that next. this made i grateful riding in a chrysler, right? 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[ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. melissa: all right. we're back for the latest from syria. we have the founder of the american islamic forum. thanks so much for being here. can you hear me? did we sort it all out? >> yes, melissa, i'm with you. thanks for having me. melissa: let's get to it. you say there is economic force driving this whole situation in syria. -pif we understood it better we could come closer to solving the problem it has to do with turkey and russia. explain it to me. >> the bottom line there is old historical triangle between turkey, syria and russia. until we break the triangle we'll not solve the problem. the reason the assad regime has been able to perpetrate genocide against its own people, 50,000 killed, 1 one had you,000 displaced and three million homes destroyed. russia continues to give them arms, $1.5 billion. just last week publicly reported sending cash and currency to the assad regime so they continue to pay their military henchmen to keep doing the genocide. turkey that has been doing good humanitarian work on the border with refugee camps for 150,000. it playing a game of russian rule let, it is all about money. the money is greater than ever coming from russia. they're buying natural gas to the tune of almost $35 billion with russia. putin was just in turkey last week on december 3rd and signed 11 different trade agreements. they hope to increase it to 100 billion over the next few years. there is no sign turkey really means what it says on the surface of its skin. meanwhile the blood flows with economic thriving between syria, russia and turkey. melissa: explain to me, how does that tie turkey in? you say they're getting cheap natural gas from russia but how does that make them behave towards syria? what is the connection there? >> the connection they say they're working humanitarian but the rest of us, those of us in the free world have been trying to put pressure on countries like iran and russia that have been trying to bypass the sanctions against syria. meanwhile remember, turkey has a 40-year-old relationship with syria and right now they have even been talking about maybe keeping some of the infrastructure there. so turkey has not, in the press conference, melissa, with putin, not one bad word was said about assad. if turkey really meant about, really meant what it says about getting assad out of there and changing regimes they would have told putin to stop funding that reg people and to actually move forward in stopping the blood line which is continuing to fuel the assad regime. melissa: you've seen a lot of this up close. you have family in syria. do you think there is anything at this point that could be done to stop what is going on or is it too late? >> our family are homeless. they have no electricity. no water. they're dying. i can tell you one thing, melissa. if we stopped the fuel from russia, and iran, that conflict would end in just a matter of weeks. as long as russia and iran and then as we saw on the program a few weeks ago, turkey was bypassing iranian sanctions with gold, et cetera. these are bad actors in the region that allowed assad to continue. if the president can get on his bully pulpit to tell these countries to stop fueling the worst genocide in many decades assad will go away. meantime our families will die. melissa: do yo think that is possible with respect to turkey or russia? iran operates like a rogue nation. there is nothing we can do to influence. we have our own problems with them. do you think it is possible with either turkey or russia we'll have impact and stop this triangle of money? >> well if we weren't looked upon as paper tiger absolutely. if somebody like president reagan was in the -pwhite house to call a spade a spade. the obama administration is doing nothing and allow turkey and russia to dance all over the sanctions and lip service against assad. yes, why can't we call the russians out? they were sending 200 tons of currency to pay their generals. why can't we push that openly? russia is teetering pulling away from assad. we need to start to influence rebels about, free syria army. even if assad leaves, russia and turkey are positioning themselves to have significant influence on a regime that will be after assad and it won't be an ally of the united states. melissa: thanks so much for coming on. please have a safe trip. we look forward to having back soon. >> absolutely. thanks, melissa. melissa: this is pretty crazy. look at this video. these are the chrysler employees that were caught red-handed drinking and smoking something on the job in 2010. 13 of them were fired. two were suspended without pay. well, now, they are all back at work. building your cars. thanks to a union-backed arbitrator. as you know, chrysler borrowed more than $11 billion as part of the auto industry bailout. that is what your tax dollars are spent on. how is it possible these guys are back on the job? joining me author of the state of the union, phil dine. thanks for coming back on. let's get right to it. how is it possible? >> good to be with you, melissa. who knows. this is, first of all this is not a union-backed arbitrator. what this is, is a union and a company-backed arbitration process. the contract calls for a certain process just like our legal system calls for jury trials. we may or may not like the outcome in any one trial or any one grievance process but neither you nor i heard the evidence. melissa: well, i mean, i saw the reporter and read the report who has been covering this story and he says that% they went into arbitration and had a lot to do, if you really drill down on statements -- >> i just lost you, melissa. melissa: oh my goodness. the gremlins are in the system to nile. phil, can you hear me. >> now i can. melissa: so, phil, he was saying if you drill down and you try and read through the statements that were put out by chrysler especially it sounds ike there were union rules they violated when they fired these employees. and i just wonder does it make sense to have people drinking on their lunch hour, operating heavy machinery? sure is a danger to them. i don't want them building my car. >> well look, i understand. you may or may not like the outcome in any one trial. and any one situation. we don't want people who were found innocent or not guilty in the legal system but on a technicality walking the streets but what is the alternative? i mean either we have orderly process or we don't. melissa: but, phil, do you feel like this gives overall union as black eye? because when people look at this video, they feel like, by virtue of being part of a union, they were allowed to go back to work, whether that is fair or not. i understand you're saying that's not fair. maybe chrysler did violate these rules but they're saying, to the outside, this gives unions a black eye. what do you think? >> well, let me give you, try to give you a fair and balanced fox perspective on that. i think --. melissa: just answer the question any way you like. it is all good. >> i think it is a fair question. on the one hand i think unions often do tend to go% too far to defend those who shouldn't necessarily be defended. for example the baseball players union. i think it was absurd of them to go to those lengths to protect, to prevent drug testing to fight management. seems like their biggest goal was to fight management, not to keep the sport clean. who suffered? all the honest members of the union. ie, the other baseball players and the fans and the game. melissa: right. >> i agree with you, unions can sometimes go too far. did they in this case? i don't know that is the case because i didn't hear the evidence but the other part of this answer is a lot of big companies, car companies, anheuser-busch which is wall-to-wall teamsters and biggest brewer in the world and, lockheed marttn which is machinists they like having these kinds of arbitration and grievance procedures because what is the alternative? melissa: i think it's a bad ad for chrysler because people see this and they don't want to buy chryslers because saying these are guys putting my car together. i'm scared the tire will fall off going down the street. i wish we had more time. you're a great guest. appreciate having you on. >> my pleasure. melissa: from a mc slump to mcsave. anatomy of a sales comeback. cheddar, bacon, onions coming to the rescue. i will eat both cheeseburgers doing the break. you can never have too much money or too much lipitor, i don't know. hmmm. >> all right, time at a a little bit of fun. we're joined with our very own ashley webster. first up in a study came out with a positive effects of according to the stuuy, coupon is more relaxing than the spa, more enjoyable than kissing. i don't know who they are kissing. what do you think? >> this study was put together for coupons.com. no big surprise. coupons here everything that could ail you. melissa: those who receive ccupons for 11% happier. what is 11% happier feel like? >> i would say maybe a seven versus what they were feeling before, but what they didn't tell you was retail theft is up 4%. obviously this will make them feel even more happy. melissa: there are real levels to it. this was a higher response than associate with kissing, cuddling or other social interactions. >> it made it sound like no matter what was wrong, the psychiatrist should be handing out coupons, everybody should go to the hospital, have a coupon, you will feel much better. >> if you look at jcpenney numbers and you saw how much they took in same-store sales because they eliminated coupons, and my show people really love coupons. melissa: there has been enough talk about the fiscal cliff and now entrepreneurs are trying to profit on it. look at how lovely that is. a cookbook for the fiscal cliff. there are pajamas. and hoodies. does your dog need a hoodie? some of the products aren't selling at all. do you want a fiscal cliff ready? did you order one of those? >> i didn't. there's nothing wrong with this, good entrepreneurship spirit of the country was based on. it is not exactly the greatest subject either. melissa: i want to do t-shirts that say i went over the fiscal cliff and all i got was this. melissa: maybe that is not clever enough, that is possible. >> or want to start a show with the main character being a ferret called fiscal cliff and all about money management. melissa: i am not sure that is going to work. next, mcdonald's sales up in november. specifically attributing it to this read the magic of bacon, cheddar and onions. mcdonald's says these bolstered their sales. i'm going to eat one as soon as the show is over. it smells good. it does not look so great onset read trust me, that was here in front of you. i think bacon makes everything better. >> this is what mcdonald's has to do, come up with a hamburger where there is a quarter pounder in the middle aad two big macs that are the bread. the beast. >> anytime you have cheddar and bacon in the formula, it is gold. melissa: two university of colorado students are facing federal charges after giving pot brownies to classmates and a teacher without telling them what they were eating. watch this reaction from a fellow student. >> they should have told people before they ate them because that could affect their whole day. melissa: i think she just had the brownie. three of them in all seriousness had to be hospitalized including the professor. how stupid are you to give a pot brownie to your teacher. >> i want to know what they're doing before they got hospitalized. eating onions all around? >> look, marijuana this past year in colorado they thought this was a great idea, not so funny. melissa: here's another one. running in the city might make you dumber than running in the suburbs because of

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surpassed saudi arabia with the world's largest oil reserves. now hugo chavez has announced his cancer is back. a chart, chging of the guard there could have a huge impact on the globlt oil market. we'll ha details. so much pot, so few answers. legalized marijuana la take effect in washington state and colorado. from driving high to trafficking weed over sttte borders the legal and financial nightmares are just beginning. but we're convening a pot power panel to help clear the smoke. even when they say it's not it is always about money. melissa: first let's look at the day's market headlines. some breaking news on aig just out a short time ago. the treasurynnounced it is sellg all of its remaining 234 common shares in the insurance giant however treasury will continue to hold warrants urchase aig common sck. investors refusing to give up hope on the fiscal cliff. the dow and s&p 500 gained post-election day tumble. the dow climbed 13 points for its fourth straight game. more trouble for once untouchable apple. jeffries cut its price target by 100 bucks down to 80 ashare. shares fell by more than half a percent on theews. now on to our top story. tonighis taxes and how hard we are all about to get hit. there are already a trillion in t increases baked rig into the obamacare law and that means upper being in earners will see billions of dollars in tax hikes as it is. for democrats it is not enough. with republican lawmakers backing off the pledge not to raise taxes looks like tax hikes for the wealthy are certainty. joining for more, grover norquist, president of americans for tax rform. thanks so much for joining us. >> absolutely you say a lot of people are missing the fact that obamacare baked in a ton of tax hikes for wealthier ericans as it is? >> people talk about the fiscal cliff as if it is one ing. it is three. there's the obamacare taxes. to pay for obacare were delayed until after he got himself safely elected. so in the next decade there are a trillion dollars of higher taxes. five of those big ones start january 1st. that is one part. part two, the bush tax cuts disappearing. that is $500 billion tax increase next year, 2013. and then the third part which is the spending rerain sequester, which obama wants to put off. that would save 1.2 trillion over a decade. he wants to put it off and spend the 1.2 trillion. melissa: all true but you know what? at this point it seems like it is not resonating with the averaae american. go out and loo at polls. quinnipiac said 77% of all republicans think it is a bad idea for lawmakers to promise never to raise taxes. >>o, no, read that poll. melissa: reading it verbatim. >> the question was, ould you not raise taxes on the high income earners, whatever. melissa: to never raise taxes on wealthy under any circumstance? >> okay. the pledge of course is not to raise taxes period. the edge is also to the amer people not to any one group of people. so the good news is, also, whenou ask people, even the ones who say it would be okay to raise taxes on high income people, if we rse taxes for the fiscal cliff or for debt ceiling, do you believe the will also raise taxes on middle class. 60% percent of americans understand that ce t politicians get the bloodlust out there, once they smell the bld in the water, oncehe raise taxes on the few, they go after the many. melissa: oh, i absolutely believe that's right but i think that theoint is the republicans are losing momentum on the side of not raising tas. that it is starting tofeel re and more like there must be some concession, there must be some caving to get through the fiscal cliff. when you look at senators who have said theye going back on the pledge, lindsey graham, bob corker, tom coburn, lamar alexander, eric cantor, what do you do at this point to keep the fight going? or do you thinkthat it is necessary to concede a little bit of ground? >> well, two things. the senators, e republican don't matter because thetent democratic senate can pass a tax increase if they want the senaaors you mentioned would only vote for a x increase if they g massive permant entitlement reforms of the kind that rry reid and the president have announced they're not doing. so even if coburn broke his commitment to the people of oklahoma, which he got a elected with a written commitment not to raise taxes at all, his new statement is, he might raise tax as little if he g permanent reform. melissa: do you ffle the de is turning against you and necessary to give in a little bit to get a deal done or not? >> okay. there is no need to raise taxes to get a deal. obama two years ago exnded all the bush tax cuts for two years. there is no reason not to do that again. his reason --. melissa: he ll not agree it though. seems like the only way to get a deal done heres to give an inch much of ground? >> there is no deal if he wants to raise taxes. -phe can veto any, the republicans have already passed through the house making those tax cuts permanent. if the gnat, which hasn't acted, hasn't voted, remember the reason whwhy we have this odd position of some of t weird polling that you're talking about which is different thanhe traditional polling is that we've had news blackout about whatoesn inside these negotiations. we've been insisting that we should have those negotiations between boehner, reid, everybody foets harry reid is in the room and obama with c-span cameras there so every american can see what actual happens. if they saw what they're talking about, we would have a much better deal at the end of the day. melissa: i don't know. i think we wld a be in agony watchin what was happening there. >> you wouldn't have to watch the whole thing but somebody could tell you what happened. melissa: grover, tnks so much here is our "money" question of t day, should grover rquist give into tax hikes? many of you mentioned he is not elected official. we know what you mean. like us on facebook.co facebook.com/melissafrancisfox or fl neon twitter -- follow me on twitter at melissa a francis. detroit is the latest possibility of being latest and biggest city to file for chapter 9 bankruptcy. detroit mayor binge said the city will lay off 400 to 500 workers in the nexx few months. will take a lot more than that to keep the city from going broke. we're joined by michigan senator rick jones. thanks for joining me, nator, do yoo think if they dot latest layoffs will it satisfy the milestones the city needs in order to get more state aid? >> it is gooddstart and but not enough. we have a city cncil totally sfunctional. recently mayor bing asked th to come in, they said we're on hoday. it is unbelievable. melissa: you saidhey think they deserve a bailout. what makes you think that they feel? >> detroit city councill3 woman came on national tv and said, president obama, we all voted for you. it is time to bring the bacon. bail us out. that outrage just. that folks think they can just spend money like no tomorrow and expect anybody else to bail them out. my constituents from mid michigan are saying no bailout. they need to fix the city theirselves. melissa: this is something going on all across the country. its why we take so much interest in this. we've seen counties or cities at least going bankrupt elsewhere around thecountry. you see whole states. i worry what will eventually happenith california a as a whole. but it seem like, you kn, this is the status quo. people believe that the state or the feds will come in and bail them out. do you have the pitical will in your state to really say no? >> i blow we do. you know, michiga is on a, you know, groundere. we're doing very well. we have a balanced budget ery year. we're required by ourtate constitution. we don'tave a problem. it is time for all the cities to wake up and balance their budt. melissa: yeah. what do you think is really going to happen here? there are a couple of other plans that are possible. you talk about appointing a emergency manager to come through and make all the tough cuts. but as i understand it, there was a law firm that was supposed to come in and do that and city council voted em down. >> that's true. theovernor made an offer, would you like an emergency manager to come in, a law firm and help you? and they said absolutely not. we'll justun it ourselves. give us more money. melissa: doing a great job, so why would they possibly bring anyone else in to help. another plan to dissolve the city and incorporate to wayne county. this is something we heard a lot about. doesn't this put their troubles back on everyone el's plate? >> the problem with detroit they have lost 25% of their pulation ia decade. a person left every 22 minutes. so it has had such a rinkage in population. they have a lot of land simply not being ud. sitting there vacant. it may be tim to ccnsider dissolving the cty and re-erging it with a smaller city it could be. pelissa:ou even take it one step further. size of the city bye the bulldozing abandon the properties. could you really, i mean thats an interesti idea. could you really do that? what would it te? is it legal? and how would itp? >> well,e have a lot of prooerty the city has taken in. they're paying no taxes. it is just basically vacant property. and i know there are businessmen that have offered come in and help, rhaps put agriculture in the area. something to pay a few taxes. so far the city council says no. melissa: so why would bullzing it and making the citymaller, are you taing out bulldozing land n one owns it? i guess i don't understand the details of that? >> a lot of pperty has gone back to the city for lack of paying taxes. we simply have vacant buildings. even a few burned out homes. and so it is time toake the city safer by getting rid of those vacant homes. melissa: if you had toet, what wld you bet is really going to happen here? >> well, right now i think it will drag outor a while. we're all hoping the cit council comes to their senses. nobody wants to see a bankruptcy. if that happens, vultures come in and they will pick up all the jewels of city. cobo hall. we have belle isle. i hopeit doesn't ever happen but we have the detroit institute arts down there. and who knows what would be purchased, what would be gone forever. melissa: i don't know. vultures by an veor might be a good solution. give us an update as more happens. a fcinating story. >> thanks. melissa: news that hugo chavez that hisdays could be numbered. why his death would send oil markets into a state of upheaval. getting your h's desire. weed is officially legal in washington state in colorado. firing up the fatties is creating a cloud o of financial and gal woes. who will come out ahead when all that smoke clears? stay tuned for our pot power panel. more "money" coming up. ♪ . ♪ . melissa: now turning to venezuela and posbly the end of anra. this weekend prrsident hugo chavez said his cancer h retued and for the first time he puicly talked about the end of his rule asking supporters to back his vice president. that is nicholas maduro. venezuela's oil minister announced at the last opec meeting the country has the largest oil reserves in the world. would the death of chavez have a major impact on the global oil market? with me, john kingston, platt's global director. welcome back to the show. this is huge. we've been follong this for a long time but i mean 's very serious. emergency surgery. it is his thir surgery. he never talked about what kind of cancer he has but at this point it has got to be very serious? >> i think we can assume the chavez area is almost over. as colleague of mine said i heard you refer eaier why th is setting up uncertainty in the market. you're always little better with the crazy that you do know than the one you don't. melissa: i guess. >> what the futureolds could becivil strife, not a civil war but i have felt for a long time that the biggest risk in oil markets would be a precipitous llapse of the venezuelan industry. you hate to think that the deh of mr. chavez would set that off but ped vest is a, the state oil company has been essentially gutted by chavez. can it hold together witho any sort of leadershiat all? it is a scary situation. melissa: i went down to venezuelaor an opec meeting and it was pretty much a meeting by gunpoint. evenen as media were led around with machine guns basically trained on us the whole time. the whole country was very much in lockdown. >> it has probably gotten worse now. lissa: what does that mean if the person behind all that is suddenly gone? pt seems like it would create quite a vacu. he is speang out for his vice president but no hose? >> compare something to libya. in libya about the only stitution that made sense, that worked l a normal world institution would wk was the state oil company which was know as noc, national oil company. in venezuela its completely different. pedevasa is arm of hugo chavez. how does the venezuelan oil industry stay together and move frward when it has become so completely poticized. the libyans have come back nicely. their production was wre it was before. they had the institution that sort of hu together. they're not going to have that in venezuela. messa: at the same time no one can ignore this country. at the last opec eting, the minister from v venezuela, stood up and said, we now have t world's largest oil reserves backed by bp saying that they have more than saudi abia. >> but a lot of those are oil sands, very heavy resees. you know, an api gravity of six doesn't mean much to most people but almost like a tar. extremel high cost of oduction e fact if they ha gone through with reforms put inlace in the mid-'90s under the leadership of a man named giusti, the would be producing 3.5, 3.6 million barrels a day. instead th're producing by our estimates and estimates of most, 2.3 million barrels a da they tell the world they're producing 2.7. nobody believes them. you can see just the impact of hugo chavez. he has just gutted this industry. melissa: yeah. >> you really have to think this would be a better day forenezuen oil but could be pretty rocky getting there. melissa: jus for comparison, saudi arabia is five to six times that out put on given day. >> for sure. melissa: ty saying this they have more reserves. saudi arabia disputes that. >> talking about u.s. reserves of oil shale in the rockies and they're there and trillions of barrels. insanely expensive to produce. oil intense sieve. yocan count them but stretch to count. melissa: if he dies what happens to o the next day? how nervous are the markets? how big of a dealis this? >> that's a good question. i tnk the marketsould b reonably nervous and i tend not to think that way. melissa: yeah. you're very calm g about this stuff. >> he i am but -- but i do think that given that. pede investment as is hold by spit and bailing wire and. on other hand people who will be most cared are chinese get half a million barrels a dayfor loans of the cubs get it essentially for free. they have to be really worrd. i always thought the venezuelan output was always hanging by a thread and even death in short term of mr. chavez wouldn't fix that. melissa: it will be fascinating to watch. wow! john kinton, thanks as always. terrific. time for today's fuel gauge report. oil prices fl for the fifth straight session. rising inventories and economic jitters pushed crude down 37 cents. settling $85.57 a barrel. that is one-nth low. good news for drirs. u.s. gas prices fell to a 11-month loy. that is according to the latest lundberg surv. th $3.38 a gallon, down 10 cents in ree weeks. not bad. saudi arabia said a cyberattack on state-owned giant aramco w launched by several foreign states. the saudi government didn't specificly names. citing a ongng investigation. a virus hit 30,000 aramco computers in august, aimg to st down production this is the new frontier by the way. >> chris mas comes early for -- christmas comes early for pot lovers in colorad and washiton. whoo-hoo. with the legal mess just beginning it is anything but a smokers paradise. we bring in a pot panel. why not? to break it down nex do you have ever have too much money? ♪ . melissa: legalized marijuana, perfect song, right is new fronti. along wi unexpected and potentially costly issues. everything how car insurance companies will handle people driving under the influence to crossing state lines with weed. so we have another "money" power panel today although we call it a pot power panel, because we like alliteration. attorneys joey jackn, rebecca nikem. and chancellor o oakster university,ale jones. somebody raised this issue other day, showing a great story. studies show you don't drives a well when you're stoned. >> really? come on. melissa: it is shocking. at the same time very difficult for local authority to enforce the law. >> you're right, melissa. it is a lot different, with alcohol you have this thing called a breathalyzer, right? you blow into the tube and comes out with some reading but what i think will hapn is what they do with alcohol also. they say they stopped you. why? there is uually predicate for thetop, associated with bad driving. you're swerving on the road. going too quickly. that is the predicate. that's why they stop you. when they stop you say you had waterry bloodshot eyes, they smelled the od of mayorone. melissa: odor is pretty telling? not that iwouldd3 know. >> pretty telling, yes. harder part, melissa, how they test the level. the police can't just go and take your blood which is the most effective test but in the event you hurt someone, cause serious physical injury at worse, death they can draw the blood after warrant. that will tell amount of nano grams in tte system, that cld strike a death knell to any defense. melissa: rebecca, isn't that hard to prove or regulate or sett a yardstick against? i'm told night same like alcohol level like .08. abe that you're guilty. marijuana stays inhe system longer, different impact on people. doesn't that make it tougher for law enforcement? >> absolutely. it does stay in the blood. they're concned people will found guilty driving under the influen. we have something call the drug recognition experts. they're used on day-to-day basis when somebody is pulled ove for what they believed was an alcohol infraction and turns out what joke which was talking about when they blow into the meter and it comes out 0.0. why are they driving the way that they drove and why did they fail the field sobriety tests? ah, they must under the influence of drugs which could inude prescriptions. and what's been happening with these drug recognition experts that we have been challenging their expert tees. and it turns out that we have somebody from dr. jeffrey janeska from hns hops kins. everybody heard about johns hopkins. he base say said you can flip a in. these drug recognition experts are police officers and do not have the ability to take care of this. melissa: i hr you. dale, you say that,sing marijuana can improve your focu is that true? >> well --. melissa: that was for de. go ahe. >> okay. >> it can improve and does improve focus but that is not always a good thingf you're behind the wheel of a car if ou're not focused actuallyriving. there are several studies and some show that small amounts of cannabis on can improve importance. some studies sh it is detrimental. we don't have enough research on t subject to say for sure. there is not a scientific tie between the nano gram limit to blood levels to performance the way we currtly have with alcohol. melissa: joey, this is actly what worries me. we changed the law and haven't thought about all the possible negative externalities come along with it. we hen't figured out how to dealith this problem, driving. how about insurance companies? how about insurance compies saying they don't want to give someone insurance because they're a medical marijuana user, immediately they will be hit there are some different things. >> by one of us vicious lawyers, right? melissa: i love lawyers, especially when i need one. >> exactl you're absolutely right there uld be aparade of horribles and could be unintended consequences that come about assa result of this. the problem we're presupposing as a result of this legalization people will be totally irresponsible. however, even if we don't presuppose that, you can prese because it is leg and more accessible there is higher rate and risk for people to drive in an impaired cdition. melissa: yeah. >> i do think ultimately, right the law is ahead of the regulations. they're going to be rules an regulatis that catch up but they're just not caught up as of yet to your point. melissa: i don know. dale, another concern is, what if you're in a state where using marijuana is legal and then you cross the border to another state. it is still in your system. what can the law do to you in tt case? >> well you do have t be very aware of the zip code you're in as well a the badge that pulls ou over. unfortunately because of the patchwork of laws and regulations from state to state it would matter if you were pulled over in say oklahoma. you can go to prison for a veryong time. it is important to know where you are, what you're doing and behave sponsibly under that state law. importantly, if you're consuming any drug, be it cannabis, prescription drugs, alcohol, that you don't operate heavy machinery or drive immediately afterwards because this is about behavior on the ro. but we hav toake sure that we're focused onhe science of this issue, not the scareactics. i want to point out that the transptati bureau tracks, traffic fatalities with respect to marijuana and the numbers are so low in our emergency rooms as to be unportable. the people that want to sme pot and get behind the wheelready are. and what we need isesearch and education campaign to insure that the people that are under the influence of any drug do not t behind the wheel. melissa: now that you're legalizing it in places the use will grow. so the incidee will grow and we have a lot more area test what could possibly haen. that makes me nervous as a driver. rebecca, i will give you last word. >> 10,800 peop killed drinking and driving. 40,000 peopl died because of alcohol. 400,000 died because of smoking. the nbers for marijuana are incredibly low. yocan't overdose. you don't get cancer from it. and i --. melissa: i hear you, rebecca. we don't want to add to any of those numrs. one more [raul talking at once]. we'vgot to leave it there. thanks to our pot power panel. you were all fantastic. hope you come back. bizarrwarnings from syria's regime. they claim it could be framed for using chemical weapons. there are unconfirmed reports their use ma have already begun. we'll talk about that next. this made i grateful riding in a chrysler, right? 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oh, boy. all right. what do you guys want to do? all right. we're going to take a quick break to try to straighten out our audio yo issues he was such a good sport t lissa: all right. we're back for the latest from syria. we have the founder of the american islamic forum. thanks so much for being here. can you hear me? did we sort it all out? >> yes, melissa, i'm with you. thanks for having me. melissa: let's get to it. you say there is economic force drivin this whole situation in syria. -pif we uerstood it better we could come closer to solving the problem i has to do with turkey and russia. explain it to me. >> the bottom line there is old historical triangle between turkey, syria and russia. until we break the triangle we'll not solve the problem. the reason the assad regime has been able to perpetrate genocide against its own people, 50,000 killed, 1 one had you,000 displaced and three million homes destroyed. russia continues to give them arms $1.5 billion. just last week publicly reported sending cash and currency to the assad regime so they continue to pay their military henchmen to keep doing the genocide. turkey that has been doing good humanitarian work on ththe border with refugee camps for 150,000. it playing a game of russian rule let, it is all about money. the money is greater than everoming from russia. they're buying natural gas to theune of almost $35 billion with russia. putin wa just in turkey last week onecember 3rd and signed 11 different trade agreements. they hope to increase it to 100 billion over the next few years. there is no sign turkey reallyeans what it says on the surface of its skin. meanwhile the bloo flows with economic thriving between syria, russia and turkey. melissa: explain to me, how does that t turkey in? you say they're getting cheap natural gas from russia but how does that make them behave towards syria? what is the cnection there? >> the connecon they say they'r working humanitarian but the rest of us, those of usn the free world have been trying to putssure on countries like iran and russia that have been trying to bypass the sanctions against syria. meanwhile remember, turkey has a 40-year-old relationship with syriaand right now they have even been talking about maybe keeping some of the infrastructure there. so turkey has not, inhe press conference, melissa, with putin, not o bad word was saidbout assad. if turkey really meant about, really meant what it says about getting assad out of therand changing regimes they would have told putin to stop fuing that reg people and to actually move forward in stopping the blood line which is continuing to fuel the assad regime. melissa: you've seen a lot of this up close. you have family in syria. do you think there is anything at this point that could be done to stop what is goingn or is it too late? >> our family are homeless. they have no electricity. no water. they're dying. i can tell you one thing, melissa. if we stopped the fuel from russia, and iran, that conflict would end in just a matter of weeks. as long as russia and iran and then as we saw on the program a few weeks ago, turkey was bypassing iranian sanctions with gold, et cetera. these are bad actors in the regi that allowed assad to coinue. if the president can get on his bully pulpit to tell these countries to stop fueling the worst genocide in many dcades assad will go away. meantime our families will e. melissa: do yo think that is poible with respect to turkey o russia? iran operatetes like a rogue nation. there nth we can do to influence. we have our own problems with them. do you think it is possible with either turkey orussia we'll have impact and stop this triangle of money? >> well if we weren't looked upons papertiger absolute. if somebody like president reagan was in the -pwhite house to call a spade a spade. the oba administration is doing nothing and allow turkey and russia to dance all over the sanctions and lip service against assad. yes, why can't we call the russians out? they were sending 200 tons of currency to pay their generals. why can't we push that openly russia iseetering pulling away from assad. we need to start to influence rebels about, free syria army. even if assad leaves, russia and turkey are positioning themselves to have significant influencen a regime that will be after assad and it won't be an ally of thunited states. melissa: thanks so much for coming on. please have a safe trip. we look forward to having back soon. >> absolutely. thanks, melissa. melissa: this is pretty crazy. look a this video. these are the chrysler employees that were caught red-handed drinking and smoking something on the job in 2010. 13 of them were fired. two were suspended without pay. well, now, they are all back at work. building your cars. thanks to a union-backed arbitrator. as you know, chrysler borrowed more than $11 billion as part of the auto industry bailout. thats what your t dollars are spent on. w is it possible these guys are back on the job? joining me author of the state of the union, phil dine. thanks for coming back on. let's get right to it. how is it possible? >> good to be with you, melissa. who knows. this is, first of all this is not a union-backed artrator. what this is, is a union and a cmpany-backed arbitration process. thee contrt calls for a certain process just like our legal system calls for jury trials. we may or may not like the outcome in any one trial or any one grievance process but neither you nor i heard the evidence. meli well, i mean, i saw the reporte and read the report who has been coving this story and he says that% they went into arbitration and had a lot t do, if you really drill down on statements -- >> i just lost you, melissa. melissa: oh my goodness. the gremlins are in the system toile. phil, can you hear m >> now i can. melissa: so, phil, he was ying if you drill down and you try and read through the statements that we put out by chrysler especially it sounds ike there were union rules they violated when they fired these employees. and i just wonder do it make sense to have people drinking on their lunch hour, operating heavy machinery? sure is a danger to them. i don't want them building my car. >> well look, i unrstand. you may or may not like the outcome in any one trial. and any one situation. we don't want people who were found innocent or not guilty in the legal system but on a technicality walking the streets but what is the alternative? i mean either we have orderly pross ore don't. melissa: but, phil, do you fe like this ves overall union as black eye? cause when people look at this video, they feel like, by virtuef being part of a union, they were allowedo go bacack to work, whether that is fair or not. i understand you're saying that's not fair. maybe chrysler did violate these rules but they're saying, to the outside, this gives unions a black eye. what do you think? >> well, let m give you, y to give you a fair and balanced fox perspective on that. i think --. melissa: just answer the question any way you li. it is all good. >> i think it a fair question on the one hand i think unns ten do tend to go% too far to defend those who shouldn't necesrily be defended. for example the baseball players unn. i thk it was absu of them to go to those lengths to protect, to prevent drug testing to fight management. ses like their biggest goal w to fight management, t to keep the sport clean. who suered? all the honest members of the union. ie, th other baseball players an the fans and the game. melissa: right. >> i agree with you, unions can sometimes go too far. did they in this case? i don't know that is the case because i didn't hear the evidence but the other part of this answer is a lot of big companies, car compans, anheuser-bch ich is wall-to-wall teamsters and biggest brewer in the world and, lockheed marttn which is machinists the likeaving these kinds of arbitration and grievance procedures because what the alternative? melissa: i tnk it's a bad ad for chryslerbecause people see this and they don't want to buy chryslers because saying these are guys putting my car together. i'm scared the tire will fall off goin down the street. i wish we had more time. you' a eat guest. appreciate having you on. >> my pleasure. melissa: from a mc sump to mcsave. anatomy of a sales ceback. cheddar, bacon, onions coming to the rescue. i ll eat both cheeseburgers doing the break. you can never have too much moneor too much lipitor, i don't know. hmmm. >> all right, time at a a little bit of fun. we're joined with our very own ashley webster. first up in a study came t with a positive effects of according to the stuuy, coupon is more relaxing than thespa, more enjoyable than kissing. i dot know who they are kissing. what do yothink? >> this study was put together for coupons.com. no big surprise. coupons here everything that could ail you. melissa: those w receive ccupons for 11% happie what is 11% happier feel like? >> i would s maybe a seven versus what they were feeling before, but what they didn't tell you was retail eft is up 4%. obviously this will make them feel even more hpy. melissa: the are real leve to it. this was a higher responsthan associate th kissing, cuddng or other social interactions. >> it made it sound like no matter what was wrong, the psychiatrist should be handing out coupons, everybody should go to the hospital, have a coupon, you willeel much better. >> if you ok at jcpenney numbers and you saw how much they took in same-store sales because they eliminated coupons, and my show people really love coupons. melissa: there has been enough talk about the fiscal cliff and now entrepreneurs are trying to profit on it. look ahow lovely that is. a cookbook for the fiscal cliff. there are pajam. and hoodies. does your dog need a hoodie? some of the products aren't selling at all. do you want a fiscal cliff ready? did you order one of those? >> i didn't. there's nothing wrong with this, good entrepreneurship spirit of the country was based on it is not ectly the greatest subject either. melissa: i want to do t-shirts that say i went over the fiscal cliff and all i got was this. melissa: maybe that is not clever enough, that is possible. >> or want to start a show with the main character being a ferret called fiscal cliff and all about money management. melissa: i am not sure that is going to work. next, mcdonald's sales up in november. specifically attributing it to this read the magic of bacon, cheddar and onions. mcdonald's says these lstered their sales. i'm going to eat o as soon as the show is over. it smells good. it does not look so great onset read trust me, that was here in front of you. i think bacon makes everything better. >> th is at mcdonald's ha to do, come with a hamburger where there is a quarter pounder in the middle aad two big macs that are the bread. the beast. >> anytime you have cheddar and bacon in the formula, it is gold. melissa: two university of colodo students are facing federal charges after giving pot brownies to classmates and a teacher without lling them what they were eating. watch this reaction from a fellow student. >> ty should have told people before they ate them because that could affect their whole day. melissa: i think she just d the brownie. three of them in all seriousness had to be hospitalized including the professor. how stupid are you to give a pot brownie to your teacher. >> i want to know what they're doing before they got hospitalized. eating onions all around? 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wisconsin's 10, and three of maine's four. trump won the other one. we're still awaiting results from several battleground states. right now, georgia, pennsylvania, nevada, and north carolina all too close to call. arizona too early to call. good morning! and welcome to "way too early." i'm kasie hunt on this thursday, november 5th. that was the state of the race. let's dig in a bit deeper on this thursday morning. first, let's go to pennsylvania, where joe biden has cut into donald trump's lead significantly. around this time yesterday, trump led by some 700,000 votes. now with 89% of the expected vote in, trump now leads by just over 164,000 votes with a lot of mail-in ballots still being counted. let's look at philadelphia county, home to quite a few joe biden voters. he currently leads by 60%, and we're still waiting for more than 244,000 votes out of there. biden currently at 79%. hillary clinton won philadelphia county with 82% in 2016. hmm. we are also waiting for about 80,000 votes from allegheny county, where pittsburgh is located. biden currently leads by 19 percentage points there. arizona still too early to call this morning. right now, joe biden leads president trump by about 68,000 votes. the election department for maricopa county -- that's arizona's most populous county, one we've been focused on all night -- they tweeted overnight that there is still about 275,000 ballots still to be counted, plus provisionals, and they added that more results are going to come at 7:00 p.m. local time. so, pretty late here on the east coast. it's not clear when other counties in arizona will report their latest figures. let's go now to nevada, where the presidential race is still too close to call this morning. right now joe biden is ahead by 7,600 votes. thousands of ballots were still uncounted as of yesterday. nevada's secretary of state said yesterday morning that no new results are going to be reported until 9:00 a.m. pacific time this morning. i guess we'll all get a nap early in the morning here on the east coast. election officials in clark county, the state's largest county, don't expect to have a tally of how many ballots are left to count until today. and according to "the reno gazette journal," elections officials in washoe county estimate that 9,000 mail-in and drop-off ballots received on tuesday still need to be counted. let's go now to georgia. i have been watching this for the last week, and especially the last two days. too close to call in georgia this morning. president trump is ahead by about 23,000 votes. as of midnight, there were still at least 17,000 ballots left to be counted in fulton county. that's, of course, home to atlanta. at 10:15 p.m. last night, georgia's secretary of state said several counties were still counting ballots and there were about 90,000 ballots still outstanding. meanwhile, in north carolina, still too close to call this morning. it's going to be like that for a while, as president trump maintains a narrow lead of just under 77,000 votes over joe biden. 95% of the vote has been recorded. the north carolina board of elections announced yesterday that it's begun the ten-day process of counting the outstanding ballots as well as conducting audits to verify the election results. the board noted on its website that as of wednesday afternoon, approximately 116,000 absentee and mail-in ballots had yet to be counted. yikes. most county boards of election across the state will hold meetings next thursday and friday, so a week from today and tomorrow, to count the remaining provisional and absentee ballots, but some of those meetings will be held this week or early next. yesterday, president trump attempted to call the race for himself in that state, along with pennsylvania, georgia, and michigan, something he simply can't do. joining us now, nbc news political reporter ali vitali. ali, good morning to you. it is great to see you. i know you are running on just as little sleep as the rest of us here. let's talk about how the biden campaign is feeling this morning about where this stands, how the day is going to play out. the former vice president has obviously been very careful in the tone that he has been using, and it has been very different from president trump's. >> reporter: purposefully very careful about the tone that he's been using, because in the beginning, even before votes were cast on election day, this campaign was prepared for the fact that donald trump could come out, as hely did on election night, saying he won the election. again, as you pointed out, that's not how any of this works. but they have tried to be very careful about the way that joe biden has been a consistent voice throughout these last two days of election results, saying that he's optimistic about where things are heading, yesterday going further to say that he thinks that he is going to win. again, that "going" is the key phrase there, because he's not saying "i'm the winner, this is over," but he's saying that, once this is over, once the votes are counted, he thinks that he's going to be the next president of the united states. i will say, some of his staffers have gone further. we heard senior advisers on a call yesterday saying that this thing is effectively won. that's because they're really leaning into the math and the data here. they're looking at what they see on the ground and they're looking at most of those big democratic populous centers in places like philadelphia and pittsburgh and pennsylvania, for example, that still are counting votes. you and i both know this because we've covered elections before. those are typically places that take longer to tally their votes anyway. you then factor in the pandemic and all of the new vote-by-mail options that those county boards of elections are dealing with now, and we knew that this was going to be a lengthy process. i would say, though, the biden team is also preparing for the legal realities here that the trump campaign has long telegraphed and is now bringing to fruition in places like michigan and georgia, where they're basically saying, let's just stop counting the votes, and then in wisconsin, where they're saying that they're going to demand a recount. the thing is, though, lawsuits tend to be done to rectify mistakes or errors. we haven't exactly seen that there are mistakes or errors here. votes have been cast and now they're being counted. that's something that the biden team has long said that they're going to push for. they've been really bullish on this idea that when the trump campaign pushes forward on all of these different legal fronts, bob bauer, the lawyer leading this effort for the biden campaign says they're ready and thinks they are going to win if it comes to that, kasie. >> and bob bauer has been working on issues around this for many decades. it's a good point. so, ali, let's just think about how this day is going to play out. i mean, we're still waiting for a call in arizona. we have not called arizona yet here at nbc news. we had been anticipating maybe we would get more vote last night than we actually did, so that's still outstanding. there's also nevada, which has been counting more slowly than we anticipate. but certainly, a lot of people i'm talking to are hopeful that there will at least be a call in nevada today, that they'll be able to bank on. that, of course, is one significant path for joe biden to put those two states together that would potentially save them some of those legal headaches in pennsylvania. how are they looking at how the day is going to play out, planning for it? are we going to see the former vice president, et cetera? >> reporter: yeah, i think those states, nevada and arizona, are ones they are really banking on. i think our big-board tally has joe biden at nine different paths to victory versus donald trump's three. that's always sort of been the reality. trump had a tighter needle to thread here always on the electoral college map. but i think it's safe to say that if you see joe biden hit 270 today, we're probably going to see him here in wilmington, delaware, again, kasie. >> for sure. all right, nbc's ali vitali, thank you so much for being up early with us, my friend. hope you guys are all hanging in there. for the first time now, we have to go to coronavirus, and things are rough, because for the first time, new u.s. infections surpassed 100,000 cases in a single day with no signs that this is slowing down. hospitalization numbers are surging across the midwest and the southwest as a growing number of states are reaching record highs. and it comes after a day that the deeply divided nation went to the polls, of course, to choose between president trump and joe biden. trump has frequently claimed that democrats will stop talking about coronavirus restrictions on the day after the election. we're two days after the election. and instead, we hit this milestone. dr. anthony fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, warned that the nation would reach 100,000 cases a day. he made this warning five months ago. if proper measures weren't taken. >> so, i'd have to say, the numbers speak for themselves. i'm very concerned and i'm not satisfied with what's going on, because we're going in the wrong direction. clearly, we are not in total control right now. we can't just focus on those areas that are having the surge. it puts the entire country at risk. we are now having 40,000-plus new cases a day. i would not be surprised if we go up to 100,000 a day if this does not turn around. and so, i am very concerned. >> and now, here we are. meanwhile, a federal judge criticized the u.s. postal service, saying the agency failed to comply with his order to sweep postal facilities for leftover mail-in ballots in battleground states where election officials are continuing to count votes. according to the "l.a. times," judge emmit g. sullivan of washington, d.c., instructed officials to have postal facilities in texas to search and deliver votes to local election offices by 5:00 p.m. the texas order comes a day after sullivan instructed a series of sweeps for mail ballots in a dozen postal facilities, including central pennsylvania, philadelphia, atlanta, arizona, and michigan. the postal service said in court filings that it did search for ballots in the ordered locations tuesday but that the 3:00 p.m. deadline was not, quote/unquote, operationally possible. the sweep eventually turned up 13 delayed mail ballots in pennsylvania and all of them were referred to postal service management for expedited delivery, the agency said. still ahead here, we're going to take a look at where the senate stands this morning with results still being counted in a handful of states. plus, the pittsburgh steelers pay it forward on election day with a little surprise for poll workers. those stories and much more when we come right back. 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"the new york times" reports that trump made calls to supporters and friends yesterday while watching fox news coverage, sounding subdued and sm somewhat dispirited to some of the people who talked to him. he also spoke to the republican governors in texas and florida about the possibility that fraud was being committed, according to people briefed on the call. remember, he won those states. the president's advisers tried to persuade trump to speak in the east room lfer joe biden made his remarks in the morning hours on wednesday but couldn't convince him. instead, they sat and watched as biden set the tone for the day. as arizona, meanwhile, edges towards a biden win, some trump aides have begun pointing fingers at each other. this did not take long. they told the "times" that trump has often resisted requests from his top advisers to spend more time in arizona, probably because he didn't like traveling west and spending the night on the road. and while trump was not seen publicly yesterday, his close circle was out doing damage control, including eric trump and rudy giuliani, who held a news conference in pennsylvania to question the state's ballot-counting methods. meanwhile, son-in-law jared kushner was making calls, looking for what he described as a, quote, james baker-like figure who can lead the legal effort to dispute the tabulations in different states. according to a person briefed on the discussions. i guess that must mean jared kushner doesn't think rudy giuliani is a james baker-like figure. go figure. meanwhile, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell discounted president trump's early attempts to falsely claim victory, telling reporters yesterday, quote, claiming you won the election is different from finishing the counting. republican senator marco rubio of florida tweeted yesterday, "taking days to count legally cast votes is not fraud. and court challenges to votes cast after the legal voting deadline is not suppression. a close adviser to the president, former new jersey governor chris christie, had this to say about the president's comments. >> i disagree with what he did tonight, and i think sarah's right, that you know, there comes a point where you have to let the process play itself out before you judge it to have been flawed. and i think by prematurely doing this, if there is a flaw in it later, he has undercut his own credibility in calling attention to that flaw. so, i think it's a bad strategic decision, it's a bad political decision, and it's not the kind of decision you would expect someone to make tonight, who holds the position he holds. >> it is interesting to watch these responses come in from republicans, because i think there are big questions about what they're going to do and how they're going to handle it, if the president keeps going with this. and so far, they seem to be saying, nope, we're going to wait, we're going to count the votes. and of course, many of them won their seats, so if they're undercutting the results, they may be undercutting their own standing. so, the president does not seem to have the kind of support within the republican party on this question as he perhaps has had on many other matters. meanwhile, the justice department emailed federal prosecutors yesterday to inform them that the law authorizes them to send armed agents to ballot-counting locations to investigate potential voter fraud. according to "the new york times," the message explained that, though armed agents are prohibited by law from being stationed at the polls on election day, they could be sent to polling locations where ballots are being counted once the day is over. the email came from richard donohue, the number two official in the office of the deputy attorney general. he sent the message at 1:30 wednesday morning, about half an hour before the president's statement from the east room, where he falsely claimed he won the election. the "times" reports that former doj officials say the email created the specter of the federal government intimidating local elections officials or otherwise intervening in vote tallying. amid calls by president trump to end the tabulating in states where he was trailing in the presidential race. a justice department spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment by the "times." i will just say, there is always reluctance by republicans for the federal government to have anything to do with the state-focused and controlled election process. so i'm interested to see how they respond to this as well. still ahead here, while joe biden is predicting victory in the presidential race, president trump is laying the groundwork for contesting election outcomes in several key battleground states. we're going to talk much more about this. but before we go to break -- and maybe i know the answer -- i want to know, we want to know, why are you awake on this thursday morning? email your reasons to waytooearly@msnbc.com, drop me a tweet @kasie, 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meanwhile, president trump's campaign manager, bill stepien, issued a statement on the race in wisconsin, saying in part, "the president is well within the threshold to request a recount and will immediately do so." they're going to have to pay for that themselves. joe biden narrowly won wisconsin yesterday, but according to state law, a candidate is allowed to call for a recount if the margin of victory is one percentage point or less. the request also has to be made within the window between when all county results are submitted and the following day at 5:00 p.m. central standard time. we're learning a lot about these kind of arcane recount rules. wisconsin's former republican governor scott walker tweeted yesterday, "after a recount in the 2016 presidential race in wisconsin, trump's numbers went up by 131 votes." and he had tweeted this early -- 20,000 is a high hurdle. if there's anyone that knows whether president trump would potentially flip the results of the wisconsin outcome with a recount, it's scott walker. and you know, based on everything we know about how republicans have handled this over the last four years, if there was an opportunity to change it, it's likely they would seize on it. so, it's really telling that walker is kind of throwing cold water on this idea that a recount could change the result for president trump in wisconsin. president trump's campaign, meanwhile, filed lawsuits yesterday in three states where the vote count is ongoing and where the president's lead is either dwindling or gone. the campaign filed suit in pennsylvania, michigan, and georgia, and they joined existing republican legal challenges in pennsylvania and nevada, where the party is challenging the handling of some absentee ballots. the pennsylvania and michigan suits filed yesterday sought to stop the counting until trump campaign observers are allowed to review ballots that have already been counted. according to "the new york times," the michigan lawsuit claims secretary of state jocelyn benson, a democrat, was allowing absentee ballots to be counted without teams of bipartisan observers as well as challengers. but the "associated press" reports that observing firsthand that there are plenty of poll watchers from both parties in counting locations. joe biden was awarded the state of michigan after the suit was filed. we projected that he was going to win that state. in addition, the president's campaign intervened at the supreme court in a case challenging pennsylvania's plan to count ballots received for up to three days after election day. and in georgia, the suit alleges that chatham county is improperly counting ballots received after the state's election-day deadline. the campaign is seeking a court order to remind vote-counters to separate out late-arriving ballots. georgia is going to be so, so close. joining us now, president of community change action, an organization that has been working to mobilize latino voters, laurela praly, hillary clinton's national latino vote director in 2018. good morning. this is exactly -- you know, we've run through all the results. obviously, we're still waiting for a lot of those numbers. people want to hear that. but we're also starting to talk about how this ultimately played out. what are the places where, you know, democrats underperformed in ways, in house races in ways they didn't expect, and these numbers among latino voters. and i kind of want to set florida aside, because we know that, you know, joe biden likely to have lost florida anyway, even if he had hit hillary clinton's support among latino voters. the community there obviously has a specific set of concerns and the trump campaign focused on them in a specific way. but there are also a lot of questions about whether joe biden was reaching hispanic voters with an economic message or spending enough time simply talking to them in other states. what do you think went wrong for democrats here and what do they need to do to fix it? >> well, at the top of the story is that it's critical to remember that in order to reach latino voters, to turn out latino voters, you have to invest early, aggressively, and heavily. you have to make the case to latinx voters. and you know, we have the story about latino voters every cycle, and especially every four years. it's the same stories that get written about investment, about understanding that we are not a monolith, that we are actually a diverse electorate. and so, we need more people at the table making those decisions. but here is the story that is being missed in this election cycle, and especially because people are overly focused on florida and missing the bigger picture about latino voter turnout in this election. the path to the white house has moved through arizona in this cycle especially. the path to the white house is through michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, nevada, and maybe even georgia in the cycle. and latino voters live and make a significant part of the margin of victory in all of these states. look at arizona. a record 700,000 latinos voted in arizona. >> yeah. >> led by latinas, by working-class latinas. and that is a story that is not being told. why and how did that happen? ten years of organizing. ten years of fighting back anti-immigrant policies and organizations like lucha in arizona, making that the core fight, registering latino voters. and so, i think we're very present in this cycle, and we've made a significant difference on the path to the white house. >> i mean, it seems clear to me that that's absolutely the case. i guess my question for you is, the immigration message makes a lot of sense, especially in arizona, but across the rest of the map, democrats very hopeful about texas, and for example, latino turnout not necessarily, for biden, not necessarily where they wanted it to be. what kind of message do democrats need to focus on in terms of the economy or other areas, aside from immigration, to try to reach those voters? >> oh, it's absolutely bigger than immigration, right? you have to run an economic message that reaches latinas in particular. but you know, texas actually looks quite good for latina voter turnout. and if you look at a state like wisconsin, again, i just want to keep on expanding our understanding of the latino electorate, right? in 2016, only 17,000 latina voters voted early in wisconsin. this year in 2020, that is 46,000 early votes by latinos. 57% of those early votes in wisconsin, right, for the latino vote are latinas, right? working-class latinas who are making the difference this election. and so, the message to the democratic party, the message to future electoral campaigns, candidate campaigns, is you have to start early. and that is why groups like community change action invest early, do year-round organizing, ensure that trusted messengers on the ground are reaching our community and turning out latino voters and making the case. >> right. >> you can't just be against something. you have to be for something. >> no, i absolutely take your point there. i absolutely take your point on the early organizing. i think the trump campaign would argue they went in pretty early in florida, and that's part of why they succeeded there and arizona as well. thank you for getting up with us this morning. i appreciate your perspective. still ahead, as americans battle fatigue from following the undecided presidential election, twitter wants a checkup on our very own steve kornacki. that's coming up next in "the cooler." 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"saturday night live" has announced that the foo fighters will be the musical guest for the show's post election special. it's going to be the band's eighth appearance on the show, and they are celebrating -- get this -- the 25th anniversary of their debut album. the foo fighters will join comedian and host dave chappelle to bring us some much-needed entertainment after a roller coaster of a week. meanwhile, we have our own version here at msnbc of the energizer bunny. his name is, of course, steve kornacki. and if you have been keeping up with us here and watching the election returns, you've probably seen steve hard at work breaking down it all at the big board. he has been there all night and all day, it seems. twitter took notice of his hard work, but everybody's pretty worried about him, including chrissy teigen. she tweeted, "i honestly don't know how steve's still going. i'm about to die" with that photo of herself on her couch. to ease concerns, we here at msnbc shared that steve kornacki finally took a much-deserved break yesterday afternoon with a little help from our colleague, ali velshi, who tweeted, "in the interest of preserving him for america, i will remove steve kornacki from tv at noon today and place him in protective custody in a room with comfy blankets, soft pillows and warm milk." steve, we are all so grateful for your hard work. thank you for walking us through it. still ahead, rival protests in detroit after joe biden is projected to win a close race in battleground michigan. congresswoman debbie dingell weighs in, next. bbie dingell weighs in, next. shingles? dios mio. so much pain. maria had to do everything for me. she had these awful blisters on her back. i don't want shingles when i'm your age. actually, if you're 50 or older, you're at increased risk that's life, nothing you can do... uh, shingles can be prevented. shingles can be whaaaat? prevented. you can get vaccinated. where? at your pharmacy, your doctor's - hold on! don't want to go through that! 50 years or older? get vaccinated for shingles. now. sprinting past every leak in our softest, smoothest fabric. she's confident, protected, her strength respected. depend. the only thing stronger than us, is you. depend. vicks vapopatch. easy to wear with soothing vicks vapors for her, for you, for the whole family. trusted soothing vapors, from vicks it's our most dangerous addiction. and to get the whole world clean? that takes a lot more than an alternative. so we took our worst vice, and turned it into the dna for a better system. materials made from recycled plastic woven and molded into all the things we consume. we created bionic and put the word out with godaddy. what will you change? make the world you want. welcome back. chaos ensued at the detroit vote process center yesterday as protesters from the right tried to storm the center with chants of "let us in" and "stop the count." [ crowd chanting ] >> stop the count! >> election officials told the group it could not enter the facility because it was at capacity. police officers pushed back protesters as republicans claimed they were being unfairly left out, which protesters on the left disputed, because they were also being kept out of the facility. vote challengers early on wednesday attempted to photograph or video-tape the counting process, which the "detroit free press" reports left ballot counters feeling intimidated. as a result, security papered over the windows, quote, causing challengers to bang on the glass even harder. but in spite of the chaos, the counting of detroit's absentee ballots is still continuing. joining us now, democratic congresswoman debbie dingell of michigan. congresswoman, good morning. i think we're all grateful that this example we just walked through in michigan seems to be a bit of an outlier, and for the most part, everything has been calm and straightforward. i mean, if you disagree, i'd be interested to hear anything you're getting from there. but mostly, i want to talk about the big-picture factors here. what are you seeing across not just in michigan, but across the map, in terms of joe biden's strength or lack thereof? i mean, the house loss is frankly worse than you were expecting them to be for democrats. so, what are you thinking about as we head into this thursday after election day? >> first of all, it's been a long week. we have to give -- you know, intellectually, we knew for months, we would say, it's going to take a while to count the votes. i mean, we've had record turnout, just in michigan alone. we set the record for the most michiganders that have ever voted in an election and you're seeing those kinds of records across the country. we said it would take time to count those votes. well, it is taking time, and that's leaving people uncomfortable. we have to make sure that every vote counts. we don't know what's happening in a lot of the races. yesterday i was told yesterday morning, one of my colleagues had lost in virginia. and at the end of the day, she would won. so, we've got to be really careful to not, you know, give early results, make sure that every vote counts, and do that. when you look at what was happening -- calm has reigned across the country. a lot of people -- both sides, by the way -- were anticipating, or perhaps even trying to stir up some trouble. a lot of people, and i mean, a lot of people across the country worked together to ensure everybody was going to be safe, they wouldn't feel intimidated. and even, i want to be careful about talking about what happened at kobo -- i still call it cobo hall -- but yesterday, because lawsuits have been filed. but there were -- my understanding is that the republican challengers and poll watchers inside, democratic challengers and poll watchers inside -- i wasn't in there, so i have no -- but even on a call that i had last night, my delayed election night party, people that were challengers, actually both sides, had been inside, and cobo at that point was full because of covid. and you know, even to the last point about people feeling threatened by cameras -- i worked polls all day on election day, and cameras were the first issue i ended up dealing with at like the first ten polls because there were people taking pictures at both there were people taking pictures at both drop places and in lines. and repeatedly people did feel like they were being threatened, and it would be used against them and there are rules and laws in michigan about where pictures can be taken or not taken. >> it's completely understandable that would make voters feel uncomfortable. let's talk about the house and how we're going to see this country potentially governed. it seems like the messages were likely at this point to have divided government or, you know, at the very least, you know, i don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves because we have not obviously called the presidential race, but if the leads are maintained in these states and that's ultimately the outcome, the message that voters seem to have sent is it's kind of a split one. i know you're someone who has argued a lot for, look, we need to demonstrate we can work across the aisle, but i also think we're learning from this election results that america's as polarized as ever and there seems to be serious cultural divisions that, you know, the president frankly made a centerpiece of his presidential campaign. how do you reconcile those two things in the next two years? >> i think we don't have a choice but to reconcile. you and i were talking about this the other day, hoda made a comment about you don't see two members work together. when's the last time you see it? fred upton and i work together every day and i think that both parties need to do some serious soul searching about the message that's being sent to us. the american people want to see us get our work done. and we've got -- there are problems that need to be addressed and just keeping them from happening or keeping them from moving because the senate wants to block them is unacceptable. we don't know who's going to be president. one of the reasons i so strongly supported joe biden is that i can think of nobody better to do that. he is somebody that respects people on both sides of the aisle. he will pull people together. you find the common ground. you know, i'm someone that even thinks when you pass a bill and you have bipartisan support, bipartisan even the drafting of it, it gets more buy-in from people across the country. so, you know, maybe i'm naive but i don't think i'm naive. i know a lot of good pieces of legislation passed over the history of this congress -- the history of this country with republicans and democrats working together. and i hope that that's a period of time we're heading in to and i'm going to work on making that true. >> i do not think naive is a word that a lot of people would apply to you. debbie dingell, thank you for coming on today. great to see you. earlier in the show we asked why are you awake? we got this email from jamie. jonesing for my next kornacki fix. aren't we all? i fell asleep watching election coverage. don't worry, we'll keep you posted. when i slept yesterday, wisconsin and michigan flipped and i don't want to miss something. there's part of me feels that way too. janine said, i was hoping to hear the election was called. oh, that's a cute face. and we have a photo from this cute baby from bill who emails, i'm up early because this guy doesn't want to sleep. he's right there with all of us who are up almost around the clock waiting for the election results. coming up next, we'll have a look at the axios "1 big thing" and the latest on the still undecided election in races in six states are still too close or too early to call. plus, lawsuits filed in three states including battleground michigan. elissa slotkin will join in on the conversation. 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the internet explodes when warner brothers announces ben affleck will be the new dark knight. that and much more on "cbs this morning saturday," august 24, 2013. viek . captioning funded by cbs good morning. welcome to the weekend. we have a great show. >> we don't disappoint. stick around. >> including the legendary billy jean king talking about a new documentary about her life. >> and the owner of dinosaur barbecue restaurant john stage. >> and a performance by the talented british singer and songwriter james maddock. we begin with u.s. naval forces in the mediterranean moving closer to syria. the pentagon dispatched a fourth ship armed with missiles capable of striking syrian targets. >> amid evidence that the assad regime attacked civilians with chemical weapons, president obama is weighing military options this weekend with joint chiefs of staff chairman general martin dempsey and other officials. holly williams is in the london bureau. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. syrian state tv said this morning government soldiers discovered chemical agents in rebel tunnels beneath damascus as pressure mounts on the syrian government to allow united nations weapons inspectors to visit the site of the alleged chemical attack. we should warn you some of the images in the report are very graphic. there is no question that something horrific happened ton outskirts of damascus wednesday morning. three days on video is emerging of the aftermath. it shows medics frantically uh trying to resuscitate people who are struggling to breathe. foaming t at the nose and mouth and having convulsions. they are all symptoms typical of a chemical attack. this doctor works with a mobile med call unit in rebel-held areas of damascus. he treated 900 victims, 70 of whom died. speaking with us over the internet he said some survivors have neurological problems like confusion and memory loss ta he believes could be caused by a nerve agent. if this wasn't a chemical attack, what could it have been. >> i don't know of anything else to make these symptoms. >> reporter: none of that can be verified unless united nations weapons inspectors already inside syria are allowed to carry out tests on soil and tissue. so far, the syrian government won't let them do that and continues to deny it has ever used chemical weapons during the country's two-year-long civil war. today the u.n. high representative for disarmament affairs angela kane arrived to up the pressure on the regime. chuck hagel, defense secretary, said president obama asked the pent fwon to prepare military options for syria. but no attack would happen until the president gives the green light. for two years the u.s. has supported the cause of the syrian opposition but avoided direct involvement in a war that's already cost more than 100,000 lives. president obama has also said the use of chemical weapons is a red line that could change his calculus when it comes to syria. >> holly, thank you. now to the giant wildfire raging out of control in california. it's burned some 200 square miles and is now in yosemite national park. 5,500 homes are at risk. the fire has been burning a week and is only 5% contained. jerry brown declared a state of emergency for san francisco. 150 miles away. because of the t threat to the city's power supply. the city shut down two of three hydroelectric plants in the area. our sacramento station kovr reports. >> reporter: it's been several days. flames continue to shoot up toward the sky with the rim fire swallowing everything in its path. >> it's scary. you don't want to see your house go up. we have so many memories. >> reporter: neighbors watch as a helicopter picks up more water to fight flames as thick smoke fills the valley. the plume of smoke is so big it creates weather patterns inside making it hard to predict where the fire burns next. >> it's like "backdraft," the movie. it sucks out the air. you get a wind coming from nowhere. it's not windy here. the fire is pulling all the oxygen to breathe. >> reporter: crews say the dry brush and rugged terrain make getting into the fire on oh foot to build containment lines difficult. >> it's dryer ees's drier than lumber at a lumberyard. >> reporter: some who haven't had to leave yet are bracing for the worst as the unpredictable inferno devours land around them. >> we pray nobody loses lives and homes. that mother nature will take its course. >> reporter: the worst of the fire is burning in the northwest corner where people have had to leave. the main access road into yosemite national park remains closed as crews replace a thousand guardrail posts destroyed in the fire. 50 years ago on august 28 1963, a quarter of a million people gathered for the march on washington led by dr. martin luther king, jr. in tribute today another rally, one that will follow the same route dr. king took. jeff good morning. >> reporter: good morning, anthony. final preparations. you can probably see it behind brutally tortured and murdered a t catalyst for the movement. jr., and family members of emmett till the before tens of thousands of marchers who will begin their half mile walk. t it starts at the lincoln memorial travels past the mlk memorial and finishes at the washington monument. that's where the reverend al sharpton and martin luther king, iii, the civil rights leader's son are to make appearances. it was on the steps of the lincoln me memorial when dr. king gave his with i have a dream speech in front of 50,000 people. >> i have a dream that one day this nation will rise up live out the true meaning of its creed. we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal. [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: the events commemorating this point in history go until 4:00 this afternoon. there will be events over the next several days leading to a speech on wednesday by president obama who addressed this moment in history on friday during the second day of his two-day bus tour through upstate new york and parts of pennsylvania. the president said we have come a long way. >> 50 years after the march on washington and the "i have a dream" speech, obviously we have made enormous strides. i'm a testament theo it. you're a testament to it. the diversity of this room. you know the students who are here is a testimony to it. >> reporter: the president going on to say there is more work to be done in the fight for equality. 50 years ago many marchers came to washington from across the nation in buses. they will do the same thing today, coming to the national mall and the steps of the lincoln mehe memorial where it is about to begin in an hour. >> thanks jeff. tomorrow on "face the nation" they will talk about the march on washington with former secretary of state colin powell georgia congressman john lewis who was in the march and mayor of newark new jersey cory booker. major nadal hassan's trial begins tomorrow. a jury will decide if he should receive the death penalty. anna warner was in the courtroom as the verdicts were announced on friday. >> reporter: major nadal hassan looked out as the jury voted unanimously that he was guilty on 13 counts of premeditated murder and guilty of 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder. over 13 days prosecutors laid out a detailed case to convince the jury that hasan came to believe he had a jihad duty to kill soldiers. then carried out a plan to do that. he they showed evidence he trained for months at a shooting range. then hid two guns and 420 rounds of ammunition in his army fatigues. then went to a medical building where members of his unit were preparing to deploy. witnesses told of a scene of terror and chaos as hasan opened fire on a group of 45 unarmed soldiers. they listened as a pregnant soldier, private velez, begged for mercy saying my baby my baby before she was shot and killed. has hasan admitted i am the shooter, in his open ing statements. he didn't testify or call witnesses and made no closing argument. howard ray rescued soldiers at the scene that day. he wants hasan to get the death penalty. >> we are talking about assessing a punishment on someone that had total disregard for the lives of 13 men and women that day. >> reporter: the judge admonished those in the courtroom including a dozen victim relatives not to show emotion when the verdict was read. leaving the courtroom, we saw tears in the eyes of relatives. many of them will get their chance to address the court at the sentencing next week. for "cbs this morning saturday" anna werner. >> -- will spend the rest of his life in prison. robert bale showed no emotion when sentenced friday at a military trial in washington state. he walked into two villages in march of last year. most of the victims were women and children. bales pleaded guilty in june in a deal to avoid the death penalty. >> police in washington state are searching for the second of two teenage suspects in the brutal beating of an 88-year-old world war ii veteran. darryl belton was found with serious head injuries. a 16-year-old turned himself in. he's being held on robbery >> san diego mayor bob filler ner is finally calling it quits after the city agreed to pay for his defense against an onslaught of sexual harassment claims against him. even as he announced the resignation he denied wrongdoing. carter evans reports. >> reporter: nine months after bob filner took office as san diego mayor his scandal-oh plagued administration ended. >> it was never my intention to be a mayor who went out like this. >> reporter: moments after resigning, filner said he was sorry. >> the city should not have been put through this. my own personal fail theures were responsible. i apologize. to the women i offended i had no intention to be offensive. to violate any physical or emotional space. >> reporter: 18 women accused the mayor of doing more than that. in the midst of his apology, filner denied the allegations. >> i have never sexually harassed anyone. >> reporter: his farewell speech to the city was defiant. filner blamed a media-driven frenzy for what he called a lynch mob mentality. >> rumors become allegations. allegations become facts. facts become evidence of sexual harassment. >> reporter: in exchange for the mayor's resignation, the city agreed to pay for his legal defense against the sexual harassment allegation. >> i can't afford to continue this battle. even though i know if given due process i would be vindicated. >> reporter: filner's resignation will not end his legal trouble. in addition the civil claims of sexual harassment, the california attorney general confirms a criminal investigation is now under way. for "cbs this morning saturday," carter evans, los angeles. the son of jailed penn state assistant football coach jersey sandusky is among seven men who settled claims against the university. sandusky is serving a life sentence for molesting young boys off and on campus. a lawyer revealed the settlement friday but not the fermterms. 31 lawsuits have been filed against the university. microsoft's ceo steve balmer will retire next year. the announcement came friday. during his 13 years he's watched apple and google over take microsoft as a major player in computing. kara swisher, good morning. >> hi. >> you were one of the first people to report on structural changes in the management of microsoft. what do you make of the timing of this? >> i think supposedly he felt he had gotten the changes through and wouldn't carry them out and didn't want to stay. he previously said he would stay. the pressure from wall street finally said it's time for him to go to the board. i think he was on thin ice as it was with the board. >> you mentioned investors. when the news leaked we saw a bump in microsoft stock. what does that mean? >> they're thrilled he's going. that's it. he's held -- when he got to microsoft, the company was worth there's 600 billion, i think. when he announced it yesterday, $270 billion. that's the problem. >> some things have gone right. x it is box went right. >> sort of. it's a great product. it's not making a lot of money. >> a lot hasn't gone right. what's gone wrong? >> he was a good partner with bill gates. there was a partnership there. they started the company together really. gates had another co-founder but they were good in the partnership. balmer being the salesperson, gates was the tech visionary. balmer has technical expertise but one problem is he was come t peting with the google guys, jeff be strkszos and stuff. he didn't have a good product sense. he missed the major trend. there wasn't one he didn't mock. he mocked iphone google tablets. they were tlate toyota it and they would be great. the windows phone is a great product but there are three ahead of it. >> people are always remembered for flops like vista. i want to talk about the change in guard. we look at yahoo! and marissa mie. do you think this is a chance to go outside? >> let's hope so. a company with huge assets yahoo! is a one trick pony. microsoft has enterprise consumer, all kinds of things. which executives can do it? it's a small list of people. >> there is no heir apparent? >> not internally for sure. >> thanks so much. >> thank you. a startling admission from linda ronstadt. she's suffering from parken -- parkinson's disease. cb srksvs is cracking down on doctors who prescribe too many painkillers. it's revoked dispensing privileges of 36 doctors and health care providers. between 1999 and 2010 painkiller prescriptions in the u.s. shot up more than 300%. the centers for disease control ke deeclaired prescription drug abuse a national epidemic. good morning. >> good morning. >> what do you think of what cvs has done? >> i have mixed feelings. i admire them for looking at a feeling and trying to come up with a solution. my main concern is about patient care. normally the system is set up where the doctor pharmacist and patient are on the same side trying to improve patient care. the doctor and pharmacist may be on opposite sides with the nasht the middle. >> they are saying if someone comes in with a valid prescription the onus is on oh the pharmacist to say what's the background of the patient. is that a proper understanding? >> exactly. they looked at cvs's data and found certain physicians prescribing more painkillers. they thought the practices were more suspicious and they are not allowing those physicians to fill prescriptions or patients to fill prescriptions at the pharmacy. it's not that the physician is being looked at by the board of oh medicine. the pharmacist is saying the prescriptions aren't valid anymore. >> what were the painkillers? >> more of the ones used for moderate to severe pain. methadone, apprazolam. those are used for cancer-reelated pain by pain management specialists and people who treat more severe conditions. it's not so much about the drugs as the fact ta the set-up is antagonistic between the groups. >> do you think cvs had other motives? >> part of it is precipitated by the drug enforcement agency. walgreens settled a lawsuit reelated to this type of practice. their duty in terms of controlled substances. it's primarily motivated by that and not patient safety and patient care. but those might be factors. >> it feels like people are calling drug abuse a national ep di miracle. is -- epidemic. is this the only way to curb people useabusing prescription drugs? >> we talk to them about the risks and benefits of the drugs. we do either blood or urine drug screens to make sure they don't have a mix of medications or a combination of medications that could lead to a drug overdose. we try to make sure ef the the drug being prescribed. there are different things physicians and a health care providers can do to check on patients. it's more the pharmacy is looking at the physician saying those physicians are prescribing either too much medication or oh to too young patients paying in cash. those patients may not have health insurance. i don't think that's fair. >> thank you very much for being with us. >> it is 22 minutes after the hour. here is a look at the weather for your weekend. coming up an environmental mystery. why are hundreds of dolphins dying up and down the east coast ? >> and later, a new headache for the nfl. new rules are supposed to protect players from getting concussions. some say it is creating career-ending disasters instead. you're watching "cbs this morning saturday." 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>> it will run its i course but there is no way to know when the end will come. >> the nfl's new rule to prevent concussions may be having unintended consequences. players are no longer allowed to tackle high, so they are going low and blowing out knees and ankles. dustin keller suffered a gruesome injury to his knee saturday when he was tackled on an incomplete pass. now he's out for the season. senior nfl writer for cbssports.com joins us from orlando, florida. pete, good morning. >> good morning. >> the new rules in terms of outlawing hits to the head have been in place since 2010. why the firestorm now? >> there is an emphasis on it. in 2010 they put them in place to try to curtail concussion symptoms. the reality is they did. but they want more. when there is more people will be more aware of what's happening with the hits. so players will beer more aware. when they are more aware they start lowering the target area. when you lower the target area you end up near the knees. >> when you hear from players playing under new rules a lot of them are trying to avoid fines and they are going slow. does the this apply to everyone or just receive ers? >> it's a defenseless player. could be a quarterback when he hands off the ball carries out the fake he could be a defenseless player. he cannot be head in the head. a couple years ago a receiver would put two feet down and you could hit anymore in the head. now if he puts two feet down there has to be a split second where he's not considered defenseless and he can be hit. you can't go with the arms, forearms, hit with a helmet. the target area has shrunk. if you're a defender that's a problem. you have to tackle him but tackle in a defined area. >> last week atlanta falcons tight end gonzales said that was ridiculous on his part. it should be fineable. that's not part of football hitting a defenseless player in the knee is something we all dread. hit me in the head he said. what do you make of it? >> well, knees are money for nfl players. a concussion is something down the road. they don't see it as a threat to their living. a guy will get a concussion and sit out a game or two. with a knee injury his career might be over. i will use keller as an example. he was on a one-year deal playing for next year to get a big contract. now he's up with a knee injury and may not get the big contract. guys see knees as money. concussions might provide long-term problems down the road. this is a situation now where they want to get paid. >> it's fascinating to hear. the question which i don't know if there is an answer what can the nfl do? >> i think they have to be more aware of creating a better target area. if you can't go high and you can't go low it doesn't leave a lot of room for a guy to make a tackle. these guys travel so fast now. the game has become bigger faster stronger. when you have two guys moving at great speed it's hard to hit them in the proper area. they have to be aware of it look, study it closer. the committee will get together next year to look at a better way to have the guys tackle. >> espn announced yesterday it is backing out of a planned documentary collaboration with "front line." it was supposed to be about this head injury problem. in in depth investigation. it said it coulden get editorial control. what do you make on this? >> they had a meeting reportedly with the top brass of the nfl. i think there was pressure on them maybe not to air the documentary. not be a part of it. they paid big money for rights fees. you don't want to rock the boat. the nfl rule it is world as it relates to television. there was maybe pressure from the national football league . >> pete, thanks so much. >> you got it. >> here is a look at the weather for your weekend. this weather segment sponsored by tums. >> up next a new segment discussing the latest medical news on "the morning rounds." this is "cbs this morning saturday." ♪ ♪ [ crashing ] [ male announcer ] when your favorite food starts a fight fight back fast with tums. heartburn relief that neutralizes acid on contact and goes to work in seconds. ♪ tum, tum tum tum tums! ♪ [ dog ] we found it together. on a walk, walk, walk. yeah, we found that wonderful thing. and you smiled. and threw it. and i decided i would never, ever leave it anywhere. because that wonderful bouncy, roll-around thing... had made you play. and that... had made you smile. 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>> i love this. i remember trying to peer over everyone else to look into the abdomen for an operation. now you can look at a screen. when you're in training there is always somebody around to ask a question. one of my scariest moments was in private practice when i closed the door and it was just me and the patient. the thought that you could be plugged into the village, ask questions, get advice that's powerful. >> in medical school everybody would compete to scrub into the best cases. if there was going to be a case everyone wanted to do it. now 50 people can watch. >> fascinating that this could be used in tandem and in continuing education for doctors as well. we have good news for people who lightning a big breakfast and want to lose a couple of pounds. they studied women to see if when they ate was as important as what they ate. half had the majority of the calories of the day at breakfast. the others had a more traditional schedule. the women who front-loaded calories lost twice as much weight even when they had chocolate cake for dessert at breakfast. >> we heard about fascinating research on people called super agers. they are in their 80s but have the memory capacity of someone 20 to 30 years younger. neuroscientists are studying their brains for clues. >> it was thought that there was nowhere to go but down as we aged. we are trying to shift thinking a little bit and say maybe it's possible to maintain optimal memory as we age. maybe there is a different trajectory. >> i find this more exciting than cake for breakfast. do we know why this is happening? 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'scuse me. this monday marks the start of the u.s. open where some of the best and brightest stars in the world of tennis take center court in queens new york. just eight miles away in one of the most unlikely neighborhood in brooklyn one tennis court encurrentlied a man to spread the joy of the sport and more. bedford stiveson has had a tough reputation for years. on these courts in the middle of the projects michael mccavlin has taken a sport often found in private clubs and he's teaching it to kids off the street. >> you have to ep keep working and work your way up. >> the 30-year-old from north carolina moved to brooklyn for his job as a forensic scientist. every day he would walk by this tennis court. every day he would think the same thing. >> there are a bunch of kids who live here who probably don't play tennis and we have a court here. >> the court isn't in the best condition. >> it's gotten worse every time. we initially said wait there is no net. it's a fence. it's perfect. it doesn't break down. >> the court led to this imperfect flyer. he offered tennis lessons on saturday in the marcie projects for free. then posted it around the neighborhood. >> i came out on the first day. >> you came out with gear? >> i had a couple of balls i paid for on my own and rackets i had. nobody showed up. then i stood on the corner walked on the street and passed out flyers. >> the program grew quickly. in four yearyears. he recently got a $50,000 grant the tennis association. now the program has up to 120 kids playing across courts in four different projects. >> the secret to a good grip is putting your left hand first. >> reporter: 9-year-old david has come almost every saturday for the past two years. what do you think you would be doing today if not for this? >> i think i would be at home sitting. >> reporter: what do you want to do with tennis? >> i want to become a professional and be one of the people who end s up in the olympics and plays as a professional. >> reporter: parents like philippe lopez says his daughter yasmin didn't know what tennis was. when she saw kids playing she not only asked to sign up she demand a pink tennis out oh fit. >> tennis is something not so many people play now in the neighborhood. if her love for the sport grows she could end up like serena and venus. >> reporter: exposure to tennis isn't the only thing happening on the court. >> this is china. >> the kids learn other aspects of life. they learn what's possible. >> reporter: when you stand back and look at how big it's gotten what goes through your head? >> it's amazing. you have a good idea that brings people together. you can do anything. >> it really is as inspiring out there. it's all volunteers. >> i love the fact that michael went out the first day and nobody showed up but it didn't stop him. >> no formal training. just a guy who played in high school who said this is an unused court. it's a nonprofit. >> the u.s. tennis program needs new stars badly. there hasn't been one in a while. coming up holy backlash. comic book fans are bashing ben affleck after hearing the oscar winner will be the next batman. the uproar ahead. you're watching "cbs this morning saturday." if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, like me, and you're talking to your rheumatologist about trying or adding a biologic. this is humira, adalimumab. this is humira working to help relieve my pain. this is humira helping me through the twists and turns. this is humira helping to protect my joints from further damage. doctors have been prescribing humira for over ten years. humira works by targeting and helping to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. for many adults, humira is proven to help relieve pain and stop further joint damage. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal events, such as infections, lymphoma or other types of cancer have happened. blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions and new or worsening heart failure have occurred. before starting humira , your doctor should test you for tb. ask your doctor if you live in or have been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. tell your doctor if you have had tb, hepatitis b are prone to infections, or have symptoms such as fever fatigue, cough, or sores. you should not start humira if you have any kind of infection. ask your doctor if humira can work for you. this is humira at work. 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[ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: there are several events here today and over the next few days leading up to wednesday's speech by president obama who will stand where martin luther king jr., stood 50 years ago when he made that famous "i have a dream" speech. >> we can hear the music behind you. thank you. joining us from austin texas, with more is cbs news presidential historian douglas brinkley. good morning. >> good morning. >> when people think about the march they think about the speech. we heard a snippet of it in the story. that speech wasn't planned. that segment of it. was it? >> not at all. dr. king gave some of the lines, particularly i have a dream, in cobo hall in detroit and also in chicago. he ended up writing out a different speech and about 300 copies were mass circulated to the press. everybody thought they knew what dr. king would say. lo and behold, he started off normal. but mahala jackson, a great gospel singer said tell them about the dream, martin. tell them about the dream. she knew he would get into a pastoral or the role of the minister. he started with the cadence we foe well from the southern baptist church. when people hear the "i have a dream" speech now they get chills. >> did anyone expect a crowd that size back then? >> nobody knew what to expect. that's why john f. kennedy, president kennedy was skeptical about the march. it was a recipe for anarchy. people drifting in to washington from all sides. there had been marches on washington before. there was a bonus march of oh world war i veterans and it never went particularly well. this was a big unknown. could they have a mass rally where there wasn't violence. the answer in the end is yes. king and other organizers pulled it off. >> you mentioned mahalia jackson. bob dylan also performed at the event. what did he tell you about being there? >> he doesn't have many stories because he was so low on the totem pole in those days. he wrote a song called "oxford town," only a pawn in the game. of course the times are achanging would be coming out soon. he became is voice of the civil rights movement. this was a day when the leaders of the naacp, john lewis representing the young people . but it was a day really building up like a rock concert would for the moment for martin luther king king. he was world renowned as a person who spawned the montgomery bus boycott of 1955. he was a figure when he was arrested the president of the united states would make calls to. he was a rock star really, leading the legions that day. >> one thing i found interesting is there wasn't a big role for women at this rally. rosa parks did speak. but later she complained that women didn't play a bigger part. >> she complained to me about it. i wrote a biography of her. she said it was very annoying because all of the men were grabbing the tspots. the women as entertainment might be okay. but what do we do with dorothy cot t ton or rosa parks. she pointed out the prejudice against women at the march. this week barack obama went to seneca falls, birthplace of the women's movement. elizabeth cady stanton, susan b. anthony and the like. i have a hunch this week barack obama will talk about the women's movement. he he evokes seneca fall and selma and stonewall in his second inaugural address, president obama. this week he may bring the women's movement. what's amazing about the king speech in the moment is it's no longer just about civil rights. it's about human rights. >> you mentioned women. do you think a march of this magnitude could ever be replicated? >> i think times have changed. there would be different security concerns. but, yes, we might see it with nelson mandela's a funeral. a million people might be in the streets of capetown and johannesburg to honor mandela. you never know. we haven't seen a rally like this one, one that's seared itself in the annals of history since 1963. it is appropriate. we now have an african-american president. to think about the progress that's been made and all that's yet to come king's message was one of aspiration that will never be old. it will be evergreen because it is about hoping and dreaming. humans will always be doing that. >> thank you so much. >> it's ten after the hour. here is a look at the weather for your weekend. up next christian bale gets replaced. >> i'm batman. >> an internet smack down after ben affleck is named the new dark knight. the batman backlash next. you're watching "cbs this morning saturday." 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[ cheers and applause ] >> when you jumped over the net the first thing you said to me is, i underestimated you. i couldn't wait to tell my dad what he said. he would say, respect your opponent. never, ever underestimate them. >> it was as if somebody won a presidential election. everybody ran on the court. the women were pumped up. it transcended tennis. >> it's hard to explain now how huge that moment was. >> you could say super bowl. that may give it perspective. that's the best analogy, i think. as far as attention. people have to remember there are only four channels in those days. there was no cable, none of the distribution of information we have today. >> did you feel the change? how quickly did you feel a psychological shift after that? >> a huge shift. i get men today with tears in their eyes who say it affected them when they were young. teenagers particularly. now they have a daughter and that changed their life as far as how they raised their sons and daughters. they started to think, i want my boys and girls to have equal opportunity. not just the boys. to have an opportunity. it changed and gave women -- it was amazing how empowered women to ask for what they wanted or needed. i could not tell you. i walked in they came in, billie, for ten years we wanted to ask for a raise and we asked for it. i said more importantly, did you get it. they said, yes. they were excited. >> when you were 11 you had an epiphany. >> at 12 actually. at 11 i wanted to be number one. the second time i played tennis i knew. >> what was the epiphany at 12? >> i wanted to change my sport, the world around me. everyone in tennis wore white socks, shoes, clothes, played with white balls and everyone who played was white. i asked, where is everybody else? >> one thing tahat struck me in the dom tri is your lawyer and people on the team didn't want you to come out. >> no. that sizes up the culture. i did lose endorsements but it started the process for me to get comfortable in my own skin. it was a horrible time. i come from a home phobic family. it was a sign of the times as well. it would be hard for people to realize how difficult it was. that's why i would never out somebody. but the lgbt community, the gay rights are the civil rights of the 21st century. we are at a tipping point. >> what do you think olympic athletes should do this year? >> that's a hard one. >> if you were an olympic athlete what would you do? >> at this age i would say, i'm not going, screw it. when you're in the thick of playing and this is your only chance to win a me dal and represent your country which is the most important thing, i think. >> it's tough to say no. >> and the experience. everyone is an influencer. maybe they could influence while they are there. i don't know. it's a question . >> as you look t at the u.s. open, what do you see? >> guys are wide open. is he re that williams is the one to beat in the women's side. it's still open. it's the human element. you never know who will have a good day at the office. who's injured, who isn't. you come in every day. you don't know what day you're having. you hope you have prepared. walk on the stage. the tennis court is our stage. like an actor. leave your guts on the court. whatever the cards, how they fall that's it. >> billie jean king thank you. >> thanks for having me. coming up, with summer coming to an end we have a great way for families to relax and re connect without spending a fortune. you're watching "cbs this morning saturday." >> why didn't you li up to your potential? >> i was spub born. >> in what way? >> i wanted to do things my way. >> i had a great group of people around. i was so set in my ways. if i had to change and do things again i would probably bring in people like maybe a sports psychologist to help me understand. i played fairly aggressive golf. there wasn't a shot i didn't love. >> exactly. >> there wasn't a shot that wouldn't challenge me . i went for it most of the time instead of going back. >> do you say i would give unless money to have more trophies more championships. >> no. >> more big wins? >> not at all. there is a fine line you walk. people lived and died by things that happened to me and what i did to myself on the golf course. sport is an interesting way of understanding a person's psyche that individual. people who watch you, want to reach through the tv screen, touch and feel you. so the outcrying of support i have had over the years in 35 years of playing golf as allowed me to evolve to being the person i am today. be natural. be who you are. if you played kwofl golf one way, be that way. never put the game above yourself. put the game ahead of everything you do. the game is the most important thing. i was able to capture that because of the fan support i have had today. now in the business world it's amazing being a living icon. when you are the living brand it is an interesting path you have to walk down compared to walking to the first tee staying inside the ropes and playing golf. ♪ >> that's the russian military choir singing "skyfall," one of the best known james bond themes. they sang it thursday on a tv show.ng an academy award. >> perfect for the russian military choir. they have covered "sweet home alabama." a few years ago they did "land down under" from men at work. >> i have googling ahead of me. welcome to "cbs this morning saturday." it is the last week of summer and a great time for a family getaway. >> don has a look at a picturesque getaway per effect for parents and kids. good morning. >> good morning. according to the american camp association family camps have grown 11% in the past four years. families say they are an inexpensive way to disconnect from the grid and reconnect with each other. on their yearly pilgrimage into the wilderness loading up is a luter family mantra. unpacking is an art form. within minutes, walter, marla, their daughter meredith and nephew jason, transform a barren room into the family's camp cabin. >> what i like best is the feeling up here of the trees, the nature the sounds sights and the way it just really brings you down and centered. >> reporter: this is one of oh 50 families spend ing the week at camp high rock in mount washington in the berkshires. a trek marla has been making since the 1st grade. how different are your lives away from camp as opposed to when you're here? >> i'm wearing a watch now. it probably won't last a day. i don't need to know what time it is. i'll know when i'm hungry. i'll know when i'm tired. it's completely the opposite. >> are the kids here! >> yeah! [ cheers ] >> a lot of people look t at disney or go to the beach or to europe. that kind of thing. you all keep coming back here. give me an idea why. >> you can go to disney and we do. but not to be a debbie downer or anything, that's manmade magic. this is mother nature. >> reporter: family camps are a popular vacation. with activities like campfire sing alongs at sunset. and predawn hikes along the appalachian trail to watch the sun rise. >> beautiful vistas. you could hike for 20 minutes, half hour and get a great view of the lake, great view of the connecticut valley. it's incredible. >> reporter: for kids it's the activities. for parents, the opportunity to unplug and watch their children grow. ron albertson has been coming to family camp for more than a decade. >> it helped shape who they are. it built their resumés, gave them experiences like they would never have. i have to consider what time is kate skiing so i can watch? what's julia going to do? these are the problems we face up here. >> reporter: over the year members of the bear rock lodge club have become like family. >> you're awesome. >> very nice. >> join the brotherhood. >> there are families who have been coming 40 years plus. >> reporter: the executive director jessica spear holmes has been coming to high rock her h entire life. >> it's a chicken and egg question. is it the chiend of family that chooses to come that's close or by coming here do today get close? definitely while they are here they're totally engaged, relaxed and focused on each other. >> reporter: tell me what it does in terms of bringing you together as a family? >> this is one of the few times we have three meals together at a table. >> all three. >> without the tv on or something. that's not an opportunity we get much during the rest of the t year. >> reporter: turns out everyone is in agreement for at least a week the outside world can wait. >> the sea monster came out a few days ago. i wanted to watch it but camp high rock was in the way. so i came here. better than watching a stinking movie. >> nothing wrong with that movie now. we should say the camps are all over the u.s. we went to this one in massachusetts. when you think about how much a trip to a resort costs for a family which is thousands of dollars. these camps cost less than a thousand for a week. it makes financial sense. >> good deal. >> i foe youknow you take your 8 and 9-year-old. >> we have done out since before we had kids. you shoot archery, sail. it's a t lot of fun. >> better than watching a stinking movie. here's a final look at the weather for your weekend. up next some of the best barbecue in the country is thirsty business. the chef owner of dinosaur restaurant has the perfect drink. this is "cbs this morning saturday" . ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] staying warm and dry has never been our priority. ♪ ♪ catering to the conveniently located has never been our priority. our priority is, was and always will be serving you, the american people. we get to see everyone in america almost every day. and we've noticed that you're sending and receiving more packages than ever. so we wanted to give you a more reliable way to ship them. with improved priority mail flat rate. don't just take our word for it -- now we'll prove it every step of the way with tracking up to eleven scans specified delivery dates, and free insurance up to $50 all for the same low rate. we'll never stop delivering for every person in this country. 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(balloons popping) ♪ chef john sage bill his barbecue empire the good old fashioned way. he catered motorcycle shows, fairs and festivals throughout the northeast. now, 25 years later, his dinosaur barbecue restaurants are in new york city tennessee and connecticut. >> john joins us with skirt steak with charred tomato and avocado salsa. welcome, chef. >> thanks for having me. >> what's the key to good barbecue? >> patience, a good cut of meat a low fire and more patience. >> we were talking about how you got your start. you're different from some of the chefs we have come through here. you started catering. i read you said bikers need a good plate of food. >> it's more concessions. we would go to bike events. there was never good food. this was in 1983. i'm going on 30 years. so we got in the business of feeding bikers. cut a 55-gallon drum in half. went to bike event s. that led to fairs and festivals. i was like a carney for years up and down the coast. >> what else do we have? corn on the cob? >> oh yeah. we grilled that. basted it with extra virgin olive oil, paprika and cheese. >> what's in front of us? >> we have a water melon margarita with thyme. >> is the fruit course? >> palate cleanser. >> that's fresh. >> also some patron. >> you have seen an interesting progression. buffalo is next for another restaurant. >> yes. >> you have an interesting design philosophy for the restaurants. >> mm-hmm. you take the bones of a building. we try not to mess it up much. it has good brick, floors ceiling. we go with the flow of what the building was previously. >> you were on the road for a while. then you settled in syracuse. >> i moved to syracuse when i was 12 years old. i lived in syracuse many years. we just started. that was the base camp. we went on the road and did it for five years. got burned out from the traveling. opened up the restaurant. >> how does an italian-american who grew up in new york city become obsessed with barbecue? >> as we went down the east coast, we called ourselves dinosaur barbecue but it was peppers and onions steak sandwiches. on the mason dixon line they said i don't know what this is but it isn't barbecue. that spurred me to find out what barbecue was. that was in 1986. >> do you do mostly dry rubs? i know you sell the rubs and sauce. what's the process to make this meat? >> you have to get the right cut. we are picky about what we buy. then we rub it smoke it then glaze it. the sauce is a condiment. you don't want to cover up good barbecue. the brisket can be 12 hours. the ribs are four hours. you want the sauce to complement it. you want a little bit of sauce, spice, smoke, pure pork flavor. >> how do you feel about making the forbes list? >> great honor. appreciate appreciate it. it was good. >> when i was pregnant i went to your restaurant. it was one of my favorite places to eat. >> that's great. >> your barbecue is moist. you mentioned low and slow. is that the secret? >> it is. you don't want a lot of fluctuation in temperature. it's got to be row and steady. just let the fat come through and baste out. the fat from barbecue. take the pork shoulder. you lose 50% of that. all the fat slowly i bastes through the meat over 12 hours. it's left moist and pretty lean. >> if you could share a meal with anyone who would you share it with? >> probably my parents. i think they would be honored to be here. >> great pick. >> it is. >> you know the tradition. we'd love to get your signature to add it to the wall. >> thank you very much. >> chef thanks for joining us. for more on the dishes head to cbsnews.com. thank you again. >> up next he's been called the bob dylan of britain. james maddock strums into the second cup cafe with music from his new album "another life." this is "cbs this morning saturday." sleeping apart. things should never come to this. that is why i'm through the moon to present our latest innovation, tempur choice. it features an adjustable support system that can be personalized with a touch of a button. so both of you can get the best sleep possible...together. goodnight love chickens. ...excuse my english, love birds.. chili's triple dipper, now just $9.99. if you like options, we've got lots of them. burger bites, boneless wings potato skins, and more. choose any three for just $9.99 for a limited time. chili's triple dipper. more life happens here. 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>> good morning, everyone, it's sunday, january 13th, i'm alisyn camerota. thank you for joining us today. the state of new york declaring a state of emergency on the flu as it spreads. where it's getting worse. >> tucker: who is really influencing the white house when it comes to gun control legislation. here is a hint, it's not the n.r.a., but it might be a liberal think tank. more on that coming up. >> an exciting night at the miss america pageant. there she is. >> your new miss america is... miss new york. >> how about that, 23-year-old mallory, why are they always surprised? it's a 50/50 chance. "fox & friends" sunday morning the first hour starts right now. ♪ >> good morning, everybody, thanks so much for joining us, great to be here with tucker carlson, mike jerrick. >> tucker: hi, ali. >> good morning. >> tucker: why is the look always. >> alisyn: what jo the miss america, it's patented. >> alisyn: is it always the person on the right side who wins? the stage manager is in charge, i think. >> alisyn: and we'll give you more on that, but first the headlines and tell you exactly what's happening at this hour, overnight egyptian president mubarak getting a second chaps chance the at freedom. a court has given up the-- the no date has been set for the retrial. the government wants to help people get vaccinated, temporarily banning pharmacies from vaccinating people under the age 18. and now they'll give shots to kids six months and older. but with the levels and vaccination shortage nationwide. some are waiting in long lines like you're seeing to get the shots. italian coast guard releasing brand new rescue video from the night of the costa concordia disaster. one year ago that the cruise ship sank. look at the video, after crashing into a bed of rocks over the coast in italy you see passengers in life jackets climbing down the ladder to rescue boats and today, this is the scene here, coming up at 6:20 eastern, two survivors who will join us live and share with us their firsthand account of that terrifying ordeal. >> this was stunning, i bet you watched the first game. any football fan who watched the ravens game. >> clayton:. >> under a minute. flacco, somehow got behind the defense in overtime, peyton manning forces this pass and intercepted, and six plays later, and now, in double overtime the ravens kick a game winning 47 yard field goal to stun the broncos, 38- 38-35. and then from san francisco, 49ers qb, kaepernick, rushing, 181 yards and two touchdowns, and had the the game of his lifetime. those are your headlines. >> thank you very much. i would have had to have read that phonetically. >> kaepernick? >> yes, let's check with rick reichmuth. >> rick: the dangers of early morning tv, i fell asleep right at double overtime, i have no how it happened, but i woke up when the game was done, i was bummed. warm across the southeast, enjoy it, this is all about to change and once it goes away, it's gone for a long time. the cold air across the west will replace it and the warm air up to the west and that's going to be a bit of a change that's going to be happening, another very cold morning out to the west and factor in the wind and it's brutal out there. minus 17, and minus 24 in glasgow and a lot of cold air still there, but it's a slow mover. anything to the east of this is where it's warmer, and to the west it's cold and not really precipitation on either side of that. but this rain here and sometimes will be heavy again today, causing a little bit of flash flooding and see the cold air behind it, snow and flurries, some of it headed to the kansas city area and the northern plains and northern great lakes, not the northern plains, but the rain showers may be crossing over into a little bit of snow across lower michigan later on today. the high temperatures not warm at all. well below freezing and only 48 today in the phoenix area. tomorrow remaining cold, a number of cold days across the west and slow moving front moves up to the east. all right, guys. >> alisyn: thanks, rick. >> tucker: who is influencing the gun control in washington? the n.r.a., whether you degree with them or not, one of the largest grass roots, many of them democrat and bipartisan organization, and pennsylvania has more n.r.a. members than the united states. the white house apparently taking cues from the center of american progress by the former chief of staff of bill clinton and they have a 13-point list of gun control proposals that they thought through many years ago they're handing to the white house and apparently, according to the post, the white house likely to act on a lot of these. >> we can't get through all 14, universal background check, making military grade assault weapons, ban those, high capacity magazines we do that, and modernize data systems, track gun sales and enforcing existing laws, pretty standard enough, but a list of 13. >> alisyn: yeah, one of the things they are suggesting which will probably anger many people listening, if the president can't get widespread support for some of these proposals, that he act on executive order, in other words, unilaterally, and that would be unfortunate. who knows what the vice-president is going to propose on tuesday when he comes out with proposals, if it turned out that the president were just to steam roll over people and act unilaterally, that, that feels wrong, because if there was ever a time nationally that people are open and receptive to making some sort of fundamental change for the safety of kids, so that newtown never happens again, it's right now. >> wouldn't that be a time to invoke executive action if you're ever going to do it it, maybe now would be the time. >> alisyn: i don't think you need to. >> tucker: what you don't want if you're the president is to have a national debate on the subject because there's no evidence, never been any evidence, i mean data evidence, social science that shows at that guns control reduces crime. if you would get it through congress you would have adults talking about it in public and that's messy and unfortunate and difficult. >> what we want. >> tucker: it's easier to force through on executive order. >> alisyn: we shall see if that's what their plan is and we'll talk more about what the center for american progress proposed. you know the story of the journal news, at that published the names and addresses legal gun owners our own judge jeanine pirro was on that list, last night on her show, she just-- well, first what she did was send one of other producers to the journal news to try to get answers for why they did this. let's see what happened when the producer showed up. >> why won't you talk to us? can you tell me why you guys released the names of the gun owners? >> i'm sorry i'm on the phone. >> janet-- as you can see, we have door slammed right in our face. >> so not terribly receptive to having a conversation and to explaining what their rational was. >> tucker: we already know the rational and judge pirro i thought put it pretty eloquently on her show, the rational was to make a political statement, basically editorial about guns and tie legal gun owners to whack-jobs which kill children which she pointed out specious, outrageous comparison. >> if you didn't hear it why don't we play a piece of it right now. >> you think it's important to out us in the aftermath of the newtown shooting? how dare you connect law abiding citizens who have gone through rigorous background checks, fingerprinted, investigated and received judicial approval to exercise their second rights. how dare you compare them to a nut-job on the lunatic fringe in desperate need of medication, playing violent video games for days at a time. this animal massacred innocent babies, he didn't have a pistol permit. he didn't go through a rigorous background check to get a pistol permit. he took someone else's gun and good night way, although it's none of your business, there's a reason people have guns. we don't need your sanctimonious permission. and you dare put our families in danger? you pry into our lives? you put our privacy and security and our safety in jeopardy and then you have nothing to say? how about i say it for you. you're nothing, but a bunch of cowards, unwilling to defend yourselves, frozen in fear, you screwed up period. end of story. >> alisyn: there you go. a very compelling argument and she was obviously framing it to terry mcbride the journal news editor and the owner, this one janet-- i'm sorry, president and publisher the people as we understand who decided to put the james and addresses out there and won't engage in conversation with judge jeanine or anyone else about their decision. so the judge took to her show and she talked about at least her reason for having it, she was a judge and yes, she put people behind bars and they will get out and could be seeking some sort of retribution. >> and you gave a road map to criminals, okay, they have a gun, they have a gun, they don't we'll rob their house, but it's none of their business in the first place. >> tucker: one of the great divides in this country is those in power, office holders who have body guards and the rest of us rely on 911 when something bad happens. i had a great e-mail from one of the viewers, maybe the people passing the law ought to rely on 911 for their safety and for their families, too, and see how they like it, not a bad idea. >> alisyn: the level playing field, even the celebrities in hollywood who rail defenagainstn laws. >> they have protection. >> alisyn: and everybody rails against it, nobody can it guns except our body guards, they're equipped because they're trustworthy. >> tucker: if you're delivering milk to a bodega at three in the morning in a crumby neighborhood and a lot of people in new york city are, facing a real risk of armed robbery and putting your life on the line every day not allowed to have a gun. and if you're in some stupid sit com, and you are. >> or a woman's magazine is claiming it's going to power women. why is the editor mocking women who choose to have a gun. >> tucker: looks like x-factor didn't work out, but vegas may be ahead. and peeve the details, they're juicy of course. ♪ ♪ drown it out. introducing e all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. >> the independent women's harsh criticism over its views op gun rights for women. >> tucker: and that criticism came from one of the largest women's magazines in this country, clamor. and here is more is fox news contributor. what did glamour say about the iwf decision on guns? >> limiting magazines-- ammunition magazine for women at home with their children, and without their husband. the georgia case had five rounds in the handgun and shot the intruder and didn't walk away dead, he walked away alive. and glamour got this statement and responded saying it was strange, and that it was only intended to cause problems and antagonize the debate rather than add to it. >> alisyn: in fact, sorry to interrupt you, i want to show you exactly what glamour's deputy editor responded. here it is. please unsubscribe me to your strange sensationlizing polemics. some people feel they need a gun for protection and empowerment. >> here name is lauren lanotti, the deputy editor at glamour, said not only strange, but used for maximum agitation, considering that glamour magazine dives into political all the time, seems they would want the debate. more women than ever are interested in having concealed carry permits defending themselves in their homes and the iwf statement came from someone who is at home a lot, her husband is overseas fighting for my freedom and theirs, she feels she needs more than five bullets in her handgun to defend herself and two young children. this is something that glamour magazine didn't seem to be interested in, if they run crime stories in their magazine all the time. it seems like they'd be interested in at least the side of the story where women are willing to defend themselves in their homes with a firearm. >> it's hard to see what the argument is against women arming themselves. they basically commit zero crimes against strangers and aren't prone to shopping up shopping mall. it seems a way to empower and equallize the situation. why would you not be for that? >> well, and that's the question about glamour magazine, is whether you want to believe it or not. women are not as strong as men and guns serve as a great equalizing, when it comes to home invasions. women who stay at home often have very young children and it's difficult to make sure they're in a safe place while you're defending them and yourself against an intruder and the firearm is the easiest way to make sure there's no harm done to yourself and your children. >> i met a woman two years ago at the national rifle association, and anti-gun until a man broke into her son's bedroom at night and the only thing she had to fight back as a bottle of kitchen spray and a knife and she now understands the importance of defending yourself and your children inside your home. and glamour magazine didn't look at it as a home defense rather than-- >> and glamour lip gloss and tips for looking sexy, but they do look at other political issues. thank you for looking at that for us this morning. >> thank you. >> tucker: a year ago today, the costa concordia crashed and sank off the coast of italy. and up next, two survivors join us. >> alisyn: a new miss america crowned last night and we'll show you more of the crowning moment. ♪ ♪ ♪ using cloud computing and mobile technology, verizon innovators have developed a projective display for firefighters. allowing them to see through anything. because the world's biggest challenges deserve even bigger solutions. powerful answers. verizon. >> quick headlines for you, a bird strike forced a jet blue plane to turn around after it took off from new york's jfk airport. the plane headed to the dominican republic was hit by a bird on the nose of the plane. it was inspected and took off two hours later. and the trial of mohammed mahmoud, accused of planning to bomb the tree lighting ceremony. prosecutors say he was a radical determined to pull off that plot. >> mike: the one year anniversary of the tragic costa concordia ship wreck off the island in giglio in italy. a day that will forever leave a mark on those who lost loved ones and others that were there hours on end. joining us for a firsthand account, and recorded the disaster themselves. and welcome to "fox & friends." let's go back a year ago. why were you on the ship in the first place. what were you celebrating. >> this was our honeymoon, actually. >> mike: where were you when it rolled over on its side, the ship. >> we were in our cabin looking through some of our photos from a day spent in rome and we heard kind of a soft, dull sound coming from behind us. and then the whole roomarted le side. wine glass, wine bottles fell off the table, the tv started sliding out of the cabinet. >> mike: emily, what did you think was happening. >> i thought. i asked benji, maybe a really big wave. he said i don't think so. >> mike: did you think of the "titanic" instantly. >> we thought of the "titanic" as we were trying to escape from the ship. we thought about jumping into the water and how that would give us risk of hypothermia and we thought about if the ship continuing sinking, then we might get pulled under by the suction of the sinking, so, ironically, we were thinking about the "titanic" the whole time. >> mike: of course. now, you're scrambling around and we've seen the video of people banging into each other. did you ever make it to a life boat? >> we made it to a life boat and as our life boat was being lowered down to the water, it kept banging into the ship because the ship was leaning over so severely, our life boat couldn't go down and hauled it up and we got back out on to the ship. so, 23 of the 26 life boats deployed, but there were three life boats that didn't so between three and 500 people were left behind, and we were included in that. >> mike: well, emily, of course, you're here a year later. how did you eventually get off of the ship? >> we eventually got off the ship by tieing knots on ropes and rappelled down the side of the cruiseliner. >> mike: what in the world-- well, now you've documented this in abandon ship, this book and emily you put a cd together. emily, how are you feeling on the anniversary? >> it has been a really intense and emotional year. benji and i got ptsd therapy for months and try to rebuild our lives and see if maybe the tragedy was a way for us to make meaning and make changes in our lives. so, it's been really emotional because we just finished our project and now sharing it with the world, saying to the world, sometimes terrible things happen to good people and we can make meaning out of it. >> yeah. one of the things i was trying to do with this book is i wanted to tell the story of our escape from the ship, climbing down this rope and getting trapped in a stairwell and just the horror of knowing that water was rushing into the ship. but i also wanted to tell the story of us trying to get help from the american embassy and getting basically no help from n them at all and story of us getting back home. >> mike: well, are you closer now? >> yeah, i actually have a wonderful story to tell. when we were -- when we went up to the fourth deck waiting for life boats and everyone was pushing and frightened. we were at the back of the line and i looked at everyone pushing and i looked at benji and said, hey, i don't want to push, is that okay with you? he said, yeah, it's okay with me, i said okay, that means we might not get on the life boat, and then we'll die and then he said, okay, that's okay with me. and this is when i knew, i married my soulmate and through this year, really, it's reconfirmed our love and commitment for each other. >> mike: my goodness. >> we've never been closer. after having gone through an experience like this and coming home and working on the process of creating something from it, trying to make something meaningful and something hopefully beautiful and sharing that with the world, and we've been united in this since. >> mike: and the book, the book and the cd are beautiful. you've accomplished that. real quickly, benji, what do you think of the captain? he took a lot of heat afterwards, rightfully so? >> our opinion of the captain is probably a little surprising. we think he's a fool who made a mistake and put a lot of lives at risk and ultimately 32 people lost their lives on his mistake. >> mike: kind of showing off. but it was a mistake and we think that the responsibility flows upward into the cruise company and we think the captain at this point his life is basically ruined and never set foot on a ship again. >> mike: it is. >> we'd like to see the responsibility taken up the chain and you know, there are seven people at costa cruises who are also under investigation. >> mike: speaking of being on ship again, and setting foot. were you ever go on a cruise again? >> that's tough to say. i don't know that we would necessarily rule that out, but one of the things that we gained from our ptsd therapy we're not going to rule out it go something like that. >> mike: you're a great couple and cute together. awe thr getting up early. >> thank you for having us. >> mike: check out the book and cd. have you ever heard of this one, a teacher with a fear of children? 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[ doctor ] enbrel, the number one biologic medicine prescribed by rheumatologists. >> here is your shot of the morning and you're welcome, gentlemen. miss puerto rico modeling not only her bathing suit, but her crutches, in the preliminary miss america competition friday night in las vegas, she twisted her ankle and fainted back stage, and took it all in stride and later told the audience, quote, i'm here to make the crutches look good. >> mission accomplished. >> tucker: she didn't win. >> alisyn: no. >> tucker: and i would have voted for her, she was spirited. >> mike: the real winner is miss new york, miss america. and valerie was crowned new miss america. and gretchen carlson was in the miss america pageant. >> alisyn: and she won. >> what did your gown look the night you won. >> this was the 80's, and the gowns wade 20 pounds and full of beads. and go with your gut. and everyone said you had to wear white to win, but i chose blue. >> go with your gut and it's never a-- >> i chose blue and i felt good in this. >> alisyn: you look good. somebody give him a crown and now in partnership with the miss america organization, a dvd, fast fitness, is to help every woman feel like here's a pageant queen or at least in supermodel shape. >> mike: one of the models used to be known as a briefcase girl on deal or no deal. she was briefcase number nine, but she's with us today. how patricia? >> good morning. >> how are you doing. >> doing well. >> why are we standing so far away. >> are you ready for the workout? >> yes. >> and a woman in her 40's trying to keep girlish figure. >> do a lot of movement and activity and i have some moves here that we can work on together. >> i've seen the dvd. could we start with the pelvis circles. >> i heard you were watching it all night and you were going to teach us everything this morning. >> mike: i have it on a loop. >> the pelvic circles like a hulahoop, basically, are you ready. >> we're ready, start moving forward with the hips, just going in slow motion, and we're opening-- and everybody at home. get up off the couch and do this, mike, you are so good at this and the other way. >> mike: oh, the other way. >> if you're going to do it one way. >> what's it doing? >> opening everything up. >> waiting for you to make some sort of comment. >> tucker: i feel more cleansed in clothes than ever. >> we'll move on while you open yourself up and do some of the alternate punches. >> good. >> guys i know you're going to love this. and you're going to go forward, forward, and up overhead, and overhead. >> alisyn: this is it. >> the jobs. >> what's this going, arms. >> no, it's working your thighs, really. >> don't question-- come on, you're mocked by the guest. >> no. >> really, how much of this do you have to do to see some arm definition. >> you'll start seeing a definition right away. if you keep at it, you can't do it one time and even quicker shots, quicker shots. >> tucker: jabs. >> come on, come on. >> a girly man. >> are you with us this morning? come on, fast fitness. >> and what's fast feet. one of my favorites. >> oh, yeah. >> like had a football drill and then move to the side and work everything, you're getting a full body workout. amazing. and are we doing hammer time? >> yeah, hammer time. >> and one of the last movements, you're going to love it, it's the jumping jack. >> alisyn: those are hard, how many do you do. >> i do quite a bit normally. >> tucker: no, stop bragging, you can tell us. >> about a hundred. >> what? >> if i'm watching commercials i'll do my jumping jacks, i really do, like if i'm at home, hanging out. now, i do my jumping jacks, with the dvd, you're doing the movement. >> i'm on my way. >> where do we get the dvd. >> i'm out of breath g to miss america.org, or go to deal with your body fast fitness.com and amazon. >> alisyn: and $1 from every sale goes to-- >> the miss america scholarship. >> and go to the dairy queen-- >> how did you know. >> you have the poise. >> and thanks so much for having me on, fast fitness. >> rick, what do you have for weather outside? >> you know, i've got a little inspired by mike. didn't work, didn't work, i still feel flabby, i don't like it. right now as you're waking up, this is the rain and snow the last 24 hours, falling in the same spot for the most part. in addition to 12 inches of rain, across louisiana last week, big flooding concerns, take a look where the watches and warnings are, we've got 134 states that have flood concerns and hit that map one more time. you can sigh the map across the areas of the south and the areas that have flash flood watches or warnings going on right now in the purple and goes all the way in towards the great lakes as well. anywhere to the east then, we've got fog today and that's what we're going to see in your forecast, the low cloudy sky kind of like yesterday. temps held a little cooler than i think we thought we were going to get to because the cloud cover stayed thicker than we thought it would be as well and not bad at all. down to the southeast, temps are looking quite warm. enjoy it for a couple more days in the southeast and eventually cool down and you can see that 34 in oklahoma city and might see he snow flurries there. into the northern plains, another extremely cold aagain, a number of these cold days lined up. in fact, really cold air is going to continue to funnel into the northern plains and into the great lakes over about the next two weeks, so winter is certainly firmly in hold. across the west. we'll start to see temps, cold and sunshine, the next days, temperatures are going to be nice. back to you inside. >> alisyn: good news on the condition of the former president george h.w. bush. a spokesman said he could be released from the houston hospital this week. bush's son jeb is more optimistic thinking his father will go back home tomorrow. 88-year-old was admitted in november for a bronchitis related cough. robert f. kennedy, jr. speaking out saying not all the kennedys believe that jfk was shot by one shooter. his not agree with all. and that lee harvey oswald did not act alone and britney spears planning a move to sin city. ♪ >> and tmz reporting that the pop star is close to inking a huge deal. could get more than 100 million dollars a year? what? 100 million dollars a year. life looking up, the former x-factor judge, well, she actually just recently split with her fiance as you know. >> yes, 48 hours ago. you know-- >> oh, yes. don't touch me. your hands are freezing. >> and they go to one hotel and stay for a year. >> alisyn: they really he make that much per year? >> yes, yes. >> tucker: if they sell out. i mean, i think that's contingent of selling tickets. >> alisyn: we'll keep you posted. let's say you had a fear, a phobia of sitting on this filthy couch. you couldn't do your job. could you sue fox for having this filthy couch here? >> that's happening to one teacher in marmount? what state. >> i think in ohio. >> alisyn: a teacher is suing her school district because she says she has a phobia of children and says she cannot work with kids anymore and nothing to do with the fact that the school is eliminating french and she's the french teacher. she has a phobia of children, and makes it difficult for her to be a school teacher. >> tucker: do you have a right to the precise job you want? does your employer have an obligation, a legal obligation to give you exactly what you want? and to meet every one of your self-described needs and if he doesn't, can you sue them? most people would say no. >> mike: the reason it's a story, it's so absurd. >> tucker: thank you for the clarity on that issue. >> alisyn: thank you, mike. j made up disorder. apparently, it is rare, but real. in is an actual phobia, it's called pediphobia. >> mike: you should find another line of work. >> tucker: i would say that's true. a couch analsy, if we have couch phobia this would not be a suitable gig. >> alisyn: i would have to suppress the couch phobia because the couch can cause fear. >> tucker: i medicate for it. >> alisyn: but, anyway, let's let you know what you think of the teacher if she had a case, and if she had this real phobia of children. >> tucker: and she's got a solid point and that will happen. >> mike: oh, yeah. >> tucker: the new york governor declaring a health emergency as the flu reaches epidemic proportions. >> mike: and one of hollywood's hottest ladies officially off the market this morning. >> alisyn: we'll tell you who she's engaged to. he's also a catch. >> mike: she's taking the plunge like her neckline. ♪ .so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? living with moderate to semeans living with pain.is it could also mean living with joint damage. help relieve the pain and stop the damage with humira, adalimumab. for many adults with moderate to severe ra, humira is clinically proven to help relieve pain and stop joi damage. so you can treat more than just the pain. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal events, such as infections, lymphoma, or other types of cancer, have happened. blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worseng heart failure have occurred. before starting humira, your doctor should test you for tb. ask your doctor if you live in or have been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. tell your doctor if youhave had, are prone to infections or have symptoms such as fever, fatigue, cough, or sores. you should not start humira if you have any kind of infection. ask your rheumatologist about humira, to help relieve pain and stop further joint damage before they stop you. >> quick headlines. this is a shocker, the internet whiz behind the popular website, families members 26-year-old eric schwartz took his own life in his brooklyn, new york apartment. book two years ago charged with stealing nearly 5 million articles from a computer archive at mit. his trial was set to begin next month. and sorry, guys, actress olivia wilde is officially off the market and 28-year-old is engaged to "saturday night live" funny man jason is a dsei. >> tucker: and one day after federal officials declared the virus had reached epidemic proportions in the country and why is it important to go to the hospital and how can the flu shot help you. joining us now is the emergency department, doctor, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> tucker: what's the distinction between an emergency and a nonemergency? >> well, really most people with normal immune systems can stay home with flu or flu-like illness. the ones that need to worry who have asthma, emphysema, diabetes, diseases that decreased immune system or higher risk. what do they look for, a fever that doesn't respond to tylenol or motrin or shortness of breath or pre longed illness and tried the treatment at home, two, three, four days, or symptoms getting worse or dehydration, those persons should come to the emergency room. new york declared this an emergency, what does that mean? >> one of the important things to look at with this emergency, the good thing, the governor skidecided to allow pharmacists to give the flu vaccine to six months or older. in the past you had to be over 18 before you got the flu vaccines. >> tucker: why. >> and the good thing now is we have a larger cadre of health professionals who can give the vaccine. it's never too late to get the vaccine. it peaks in january and february and tails into march and april even further. so right now if you don't have the vaccine, definitely get out there and get it. takes about two weeks for immunity to build up full potency, definitely a good tool to use in battling the flu. >> tucker: would you recommend your patience to stay out of certain areas, subway, airlines. >> with a high concentration of people. one sneeze, one cough, on the hands, spread to a doorknob, things like that. limit your exposure out in the public definitely and that's why i think this flu epidemic hit so hard, it started right before the holidays when people were travelling on congregating at parties and gatherings. >> tucker: what can you do to boost your immune system. >> a lot of things to do, number one, you need to rest, eat nutritious foods, exercise, wash your hands frequently, and that's both when you use public transportation, out in public or with a gathering of people and you need to definitely inhe crease your intake of fruits and vegetables, exercise is always an immunity booster and things that we forget around the holiday period because we're so stressed and need adequate rest. turn off the computer and smart phones when you go to bed and actually sleep. >> that's good advice in any season. >> thank you very much. >> the government tightening mortgage rules, could they actually ease lending? 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and will they help the consumer or will they help the bank? joining us now is real estate expert, morgan brennan. >> hi, thanks for having me. >> alisyn: as we understand it, the new rules are designed to keep people from borrowing more than they can pay back. that's a novel approach. >> it sounds very obvious, but until this week, we haven't seen this regulation on the book. basically the take away here, this is the first rule from dodd frank and first rule in several that we're going to see from the consumer bureau that's stream lynniining the mortgage process. not changing lending scenario, we've seen, post economic down turn, but to prevent another housing bubble and subprime mortgages. >> that's how we got into trouble, you've got to be able to repay it. what's the debt to burden ratio have to be now? >> the debt to burden ratio 43%, duyou can't have more than 43% debt. >> i have to prove that. >> eight critericriteria, credi history, assets and things automatically applying. >> no more high fees, that sounds good. how does that work? >> it's great, cap off at 3%. you the borrower to get that mortgage won't be paying more than 3% of the loan. >> mike: and no more teaser rates. how are we being teased? >> we saw with the subprime mortgage crisis and all of the lax lending that led town that, exotic loans and toxic assets. and misleadingly low teaser rates and people qualify for that interest rate and take out loans that maybe eventually couldn't afford. no more of that. >> alisyn: no more exotic loans, that's intriguing, what's exotic loans? >> interest only mortgages or loans with balloon payments, that exceed 30 years in duration of the loans. not going to see more of these. basically, the take away here is qualified mortgage. that's a term you're going to hear a lot more of and now the industry standard. >> mike: what do you think of the new regulations? is it better for us or the bank? >> i think that remains to be seen. i think this is in general, i think this is pretty good on the heels of two other mortgage related settlements with private lenders this week and ang all of this will provide more confidence in the marketplace for some lenders to stop looking back at the last six years and start lending to qualified. >> what are the rates. >> 30-year fixed below 4%. i think it will stay there for the year. >> alisyn: morgan, thank you. >> thank you. >> alisyn: what is up next for president obama? is it immigration reform? you better watch out. it looks like one republican already has some of his ideas in the works. we're live from washington with details of this. >> mike: plus, a happy homecoming on the the ice. how one military dad pulled off one of the best surprises we've seen. get the tissue ready! ♪ ♪ >> good morning, everyone, it's sunday, january 13th, i'm alisyn camerota. the gun debate rages on, not the n.r.a., but it could be a liberal think tank. >> tucker: the white house isn't just focusing on gun control, coming up on the president's to-do list, i am nation reform. does it mean amnesty for illegals? we'll break down his plan. >> mike: there she is, a new miss america named just last night. >> your n miss america is... miss new york. >> mike: you've got to be kidding me! me. 23-year-old mallory haggan, and "fox & friends" this morning, hour two starts right now. ♪ >> you're right. the other woman has to slink off in shame. >> tucker: the director mercifully excludes her from the shot. >> mike: you don't matter anymore. >> tucker: practice. it's so good. you watch the pageants, don't you. >> mike: yes, i do, actually. miss montana has autism. >> alisyn: is that right. >> mike: miss d.c., a double mastectomy. >> alisyn: we interviewed her her. >> mike: and miss puerto rico was on crutches. >> alisyn: i didn't know you stayed up and watch. >> tucker: i was watching football. >> alisyn: and meanwhile, let's talk about the top story of the weekend and that's what's going to happen this week when vice-president biden unveils what he says are his proposals that he's come up with over the past weeks in terms of what to do about guns violence. there's an interesting story in the washingtons post, who is influences and who best has the white house's ear. >> mike: and talking with the n.r.a. and the video game manufacturers and people in the mental health industry. >> alisyn: good. >> mike: is it being influenced by a liberal think tank? >> my impression was the white house was talking at the n.r.a. for a photo op, but not for the first time the group for center of american progress, not unlike a grass roots, n.r.a., but a think tank in washington run by democratic staffers and "the washington post" piece suggests there are 13 gun control proposals, and they've put over to the white house and some may be acted on by executive order not by congress. >> mike: things like background checks, making military grade assault weapons, we'll ban those, high capacity magazines talk about that all the time and ban those. mode modernizing the data base. enforcing the laws on the books that are tougher. >> alisyn: the devil is in the details. i don't know what military grade weapons are. >> tucker: they're not actually, you need a federal firearms weapons. >> alisyn: is that what they're talking about. >> tucker: no. >> alisyn: or the semi automatics. >> tucker: semi automatic, probably majority of weapons, any gun that fires when you pull the trigger. >> alisyn: right. >> tucker: assault weapons are those that look scary to people who know nothing about guns. >> alisyn: and somebody described it as the difference, between is black and one is brown. >> tucker: barrel shrouds, signed to keep you from burning your fingers when the barrel is hot. and those were illegal under the last ban because they're dangerous. and on the basis of facts they don't know anything about is terrifying, ignorance is scary. >> mike: and it would be a great conversation to have in congress that we all to watch and learn. >> tucker: exactly, you debate it and maybe you'll agree with one side or the other, but you get to hear a vigorous exchange of ideas and evidence and counter evidence, but executive orders don't allow that and the president acting like the king and the knight, must obey. >> alisyn: and we'll learn what the task force came up with. they're interested in putting out information, the journal news, outside of new york city, published that list of an interactive map of legal gun permit holders names and addresses. our own judge jeanine pirro was one of the people on that list and people can now find her sadly online and her address. so, she wanted to get answers from the editor and the publisher of the journal news and sent her own producer there, to try to ask some questions. here is what happened. >> why don't you talk to us? can you tell me why you guys released the names of the gun owners? >> i'm sorry, i'm on the phone. >> hi, janet. as you can see, we had door slammed right in our face. >> so they wouldn't talk, but jeanine did talk to talk to them. if they wouldn't come on the show she said i will tell you what i believe and what i think about this whole situation with publishing the names and addresses of gun owners in those three counties, here is what jeanine had to say last night. >> tucker: boy, did she. >> you think it's important to out us in the aftermath of the newtown shooting? how dare you connect law abiding citizens who have gone through rigorous background checks, who have been fingerprinted, investigated and received judicial approval to exercise their second amendment rights. how dare you compare them to a none-job on the lunatic fringe, in desperate need of medication, playing violent video games for days at a time. this animal massacred innocent babies. he didn't have a pistol permit. he didn't go through a rigorous background check to get a pistol permit. he took someone else's gun and by the way, although it's none of your business, there's a reason people have guns. we don't need your sanctimonious permission. and you dare put our families in danger, you pry into our lives and you put our private ap security and our safety in jeopardy and then you have nothing to say? how about i say it for you, you're nothing, but a bunch of cowards, unwilling to defend yourselves. frozen in fear. you screwed up period, end of story. . >> tucker: here is my question, is folk hero one word or two words or does it matter? jeanine pirro qualifies, i'm going to watch that. instead of going torefor a run m going to watch that clip. i'm more energized watching that than hitting the treadmill. >> alisyn: if you want to read more, go to foxnews.com and she wrote an article the different types of people who would want to have a gun in their home, including, judge jeanine who had indicted and prosecuted criminals who of course could seek retaliation. >> tucker: and this is not something that the members of congress have to worry about, they have body guards with high capacity magazines and assault rifles. and in other words, they think they need these firearms to protect themselves and their families and you don't think you should be allowed to take them to defend yours. >> mike: and let's talk about another hot button issue. president obama setting his sights on perhaps the next overhaul of the immigration system. and there is already a republican challenge in the works. >> jennifer griffin joins us live with the details. >> good morning, guys. the president has vowed to take on immigration reform. but florida senator marco rubio whose parents were from cuba, accuses the president of poisoning the well, even last minute laws through an executive order issuing work permits and halting deportation just prior to the election. in a wide ranging interview in the wall street journal, rubio explains why the president must embrace immigration reform and outlines what he hopes to be his signature plan. quote, i don't think there's a lot of concern in this country that we'll now get overrun by ph.d.'s and entrepreneurs. i think it's the rhetoric by a handful of voices in the minority, but loud none the less that have allowed the left to create an unfair perception to conservatives and republicans are anti-hispanic, and anti-immigration, and we do have to overcome that. there are nearly 12 million illegal workers right now in the country, but only 6.5% of those who came here, came here based on unique education or skills. the u.s. could not harvest its fruit crops without the large number of migrant workers who are mostly hispanic and senator rubio wants, quote, guest worker visas for unskilled labor and stands behind employers doing background checks on workers and tough border policies. rubio wants to make it easier for those with skills, engineers and tech savvy immigrants, the president wants a pathway for citizenship here and vowed to help the children of illegal immigrants who are already here. >> these are young people studying in our schools, they play in our neighborhoods, they're friends with our kids, they pledge allegiance to our flag. they are americans in their hearts, in their minds, in every single way, but one, on paper. >> if the president wants to overhaul immigration, he'll need to convince big labor to get on board. senator marco rubio sees it as a gateway and could lead to republican party if successful. back to you in narc. >> alisyn: what's happening overnight. ousted president mubarak granted appeal of his life sentence by egyptian court. new video into the news room of supporters celebrating that ruling. mubarak was convicted of prevent killing of hundreds of protesters and toppled his regime nearly two years ago, no date set for the 84 year olds's retrial. good news for many new yorkers wanting to vaccine their children. governor cuomo granted a flu imagine, temporarily suspends the laws for pharmacies vaccinating kids under the age of 18. many looking to get the vaccine met with long lines like these, and scramble to get the shots and a shortage applied nationwide. and a soldier reunited with his family at the ice rink. >> what are you doing? (cheers) >> that's captain nathan, he shocks his wife and three kids at a hockey game in minnesota. there he is taking off the goalie mask, they were not expecting him home until next week and he spent the last eight months in afghanistan working as a critical care nurse with the air national guard. those are the best stories!. >> mike: i know it. it gets me every single time. >> alisyn: they're great. >> mike: they thought he was the goalie. oh, look, dad. >> alisyn: i know. >> mike: that's great. today is going to be what, 55, 60 degrees in new york city. >> alisyn: that's what they say. that's the hype. >> mike:. >> rick: enjoy it, it's over. and tucker, what you need to learn about alisyn, how many she loves winter and really cold temperatures. >> alisyn: i was born on the first day of summer and i love summer so i complain from labor day to memorial day. >> tucker: good for you, i'm on your side. >> rick: you're both going to be complaining a lot in a bit. he enjoy today. if you're east of this line of storms, looking good. fog gep and the fog a big problem we'll have, i'll show you where, but heavy rain as well because we have the flooding concerns across parts of the lower mississippi valley and headed to the mid ohio valley as well. and then ahead of this, it's a very foggy morning, kind of like what you saw yesterday and kind after repeat of that today. 16 states that have dense fog advisories in effect as you head out on the roads this morning, plenty of time and distance between the cars in front of you. anywhere to the best of that storm, it's incredibly cold. 48 in phoenix, and 49 in l.a. 52 in palm springs, below freezing in palm springs and phoenix, almost unheard of. fine must six in flagstaff and incredible cold temperatures there. the real cold that you really, really dislike, that massive air right there. where you see that peak, that's the coldest air and right now we have cold air, winter air across the northern plains and across the west, it's warm to the east. we're starting to see the pattern change and in the middle of the week, that flattens out. that batch of cold air cold to the parts of the northeast by thursday and later next weekend and next week, we're going to see that get down to our area and could be dealing with temperatures in the single digits. get ready. single digits. >> alisyn: me no liky. >> rick: you wouldn't. >> alisyn: next week when you're on tucker, i'll be wearing a parka. >> tucker: that might be kind of cool. >> alisyn: look forward to that. >> mike: attractive still. >> alisyn: wow. >> mike: in the wake of the newtown shooting in connecticut schools across the country are having a zero tolerance policy, in one case suspending a six-year-old pointing a finger like a gun at a student. is it that or child's play? >> and thousands show up for the world's largest snowball fight. amazing. ♪ who emailed it to emily, who sent it to cindy, who wondered why her soup wasn't quite the same. the recipe's not the recipe... ohhh. 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[ female announcer ] the secret is swanson. try the #1 gastroenterologist recommended probiotic. align. align naturally helps maintain digestive balance. ♪ ooh, baby, can i do for you today? ♪ try align today. >> the wake of the newtown shootings, preventive measures are amped up across the conduct and is it possible we're taking some things anyway, too far? a recent study of the school suspensions in the d.c. area, for example, from last year, noticed they were more than 6,000 suspensions of kids from pre-kindergarten to fifth grade, including 50 in pr pre-kin. 433 in kindergarten, suspension. 677 in first grade, 813 in the second grade and by third grade, 1,086. and with us the former labor secretary nominee and fox news contributor. thanks for coming. great to be with you. >> tucker: this steams a little over the top. what could you possibly do in pre-kindergarten to earn a suspension. >> one of the kids what he did was go pow and got him kicked out of school and had to stay home and his parents are objecting now, and i don't know, may end up bringing a lawsuit. it really is ridiculous and part of the problem is, we've sort of femininized school. little boys, outside of the realm of what a lot of schools want to see and frankly it's a problem. what you're doing is teaching the wrong lesson, teaching that child's play is somehow aggressive, violent, and that in some way diminishes real violence when you have a kid who really is aggressive, if you could be suspended for simply playing, now, cowboys and indians or good guys and bad guys, cops and robbers and get thrown out of school for that, if you're six, seven years old. that misses the opportunity to deal with real problems. >> that's right, and the opportunity to teach the child, just kicking him out of school or suspending him doesn't instruct him. and it's a larger trend, the country losing its sense of humor. >> absolutely. >> is it not possible to laugh things off anymore? >> i think that's a problem and also, a problem that we somehow think we can socialize children into being different beings than they are. you know, i'm a mother of three sons, when my three-year-old, my first son was three years old, waii was one, no g.i. joe, no guns, holesters and guns and him legos and fitted the piece together and went around the house saying bam, bam, bam. and boys will be boys. >> tucker: it's true. that's right. and why wouldn't any school or parent with the experience, your preconceptions are shattered by the realities of gender differences, they're inborn. >> day one, little baby girls are different than baby boys. >> tucker: and why shouldn't schools who have smart and wise people presumably recognize that? >> i think that schools are structured environment and frankly, little girl's behavior, a willingness to sit still, pay attention, not necessarily to talk and get up and run around the room is more conducive to a classroom setting. what we've done, trying to turn little boys into different forms of little girls and a lot has to do with the way that schools are structured. you take a six-year-old and sit him in a chair and expect that they're going to stay there. it isn't natural, frankly, it isn't natural for a lot of little girls, it's more for the convenience of teachers than it is accommodating to the child's needs. >> that's truly right. little boys are savages, i don't mean that in-- it's just true. >> we can't change it, but thr he' lovable and grow up to warm, wonderful human beings when they get a little older. >> tucker: amen. on that hopeful note. coming up, get an instant mood boost from botox. true, that story coming up and women all around put it on every day, but one woman gave herself a no makeup challenge for a year, claims it made her more beautiful. is this a good lesson in vanity for all women? we report, you decide. plus want to stay lean for life? we've got the foods that will help you do that, so stay tuned. ♪ [ female announcer ] over the years, your mouth has sipped, snacked, ...yellowed... lived, loved, ...yellowed... chatted, chewed, ...yellowed. and over all those years, your teeth...have yellowed. fact is, if you're not whitening, you're yellowing. crest 3d white whitestrips remove over ten years of stains by going below the enamel surface. and, they whiten 25 times better than a leading whitening toothpaste. crest whitestrips. life opens up when you do. >> oh, it's final for your news by the numbers. first up, 10 million dollars, that's how much money the obama inauguration team is hyped its fund raising goal. the commit helped to raise 50 million for the ceremony just a week away. next, 460,000 dollars, that's how much this private three-acre florida island was listed for on ebay. the owner says he couldn't afford to build on it and put it up for auction. no one bid on the land. good luck. finally, 6,000, how many seattle residents took part in the world's largest snowball fight. about 162,000 pounds of snow were trucked in for the event. and it's now in the guinness book of world records. >> mike: another number for you, six, six commandments of get you back on the right back as far as your diet is concerned. >> alisyn: oh, good. you were vamping it's hard to know when my cue is. after the holidays overeating many of us making new years resolutions to lose weight. like a reset button, but sadly rarely works, but a way to pull it off in less than two weeks. >> mike: one of our good friends and a colleague, a news anchor for a station in new york city, fox 5, does a great job. a trained chef and an author of this book called "the quick and queen" look how pretty you are. >> oh. >> alisyn: great to see you and have you back. let's talk about your rules for getting us in shape. everybody forgets about it. >> scientifically proven, you stick to it two to four weeks and everybody jumps on the fad diets and they don't work, it's deprivation. >> mike: are you one of those people, i love this, that says you should eat often throughout the day. >> i am, one of those people who believes you should eat every three hours or one of those people, whoever works for you, but eat often because if you don't eat often, then what happens is you're starving, once you realize that you need to eat something and you choose the wrong things. >> mike: how do you get that done? do you have food around you? >> you can absolutely pack stuff with you, and i'm not talking forging, bring almonds or yogurt, a mid morning snack or apple, things that arab -- and that have so you don't go by the pizza. >> alisyn: and you're making one of the dishes for us. what do you mean lean protein. chicken? >> tons of lean protein, obviously, fish is one of the low proteins, turkey can be lean protein, some people like pork, that's lean protein, you know, it's really anything that does not have a high level of fat. >> dari, you're famous for your kabobs. >> alisyn: what are you pigging-- >> paint a skewer. >> you start with lean. >> exactly, lean protein and the idea is to stack it with as many vegetables and good stuff as you want. you know, when you're eating this way, you don't have to think about calories, another big thing, i don't think it's good to obsess about calories, who wants to do that. an accountant and you love numbers and you want to do that all day long, there's no reason to do that when you're eating well. so you can stuff a bunch of these as eat as many as you want because the idea really is to not feel like you're on one of those programs, where you're depriving yourself. >> alisyn: right, and you also say, we have heard this before, it's hard to do when you're hungry and want a snack, avoid processed foods. >> it's hard to do, impossible when you're really, really hungry, it's the easiest to find, processed food. >> alisyn: vending machines and snack bars. >> the drive through, the pizza place. say if you made these and did a lovely job. >> thank you, i make a good kebab. what do i slather it with? >> slather it with a marinade, you can make any kind you want, depends on what your flavor thing is. but you know-- >> this is like soy sauce, ginger, garlic. >> and do it ahead of time and put it in the refrigerator and all of those marinaded so he there's really good flavor or the very last minute. and just put it on the grill and it can be, it doesn't have to be, you don't have to go outside, you can do one of the grills or grill pans on your stove top. >> alisyn: your book is terrific, dari alexander, great recipes and-- >> your name is dari, are you lactose intolerance. >> no. >> i'm into dairy. >> i'm not that into dairy. >> mike: interesting. >> well, you know, it's just, i don't know. >> mike: they're into you. >> i can he eat certain things, some things-- >> good to see you. how are the kids. >> gralt. >> mike: likeand i saw-- >> i saw you in philly. we don't see you. >> i love you and known for for years, you know that. >> alisyn: and yeah. >> we were pregnant together. >> tucker: i like watching that. but we're on to the next segment. (laughter) >> this is so good. oh. >> we were pregnant together. >> we were all pregnant together. >> we're going to get pregnant together. 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[♪...] >> your new miss america is... miss new york. >> she wasn't even looking. she had averted her eyes. that was miss new york, mallory haggan crowned last night. and she beat out miss south carolina and miss oklahoma who came in third. she was originally from alabama and moved to brooklyn in 2008. the fourth new york miss america, the last was vanessa williams. >> but she's from alabama of course, like-- >> look at this, for her talent she wowed the crowd with a tap dance to james brown get up off that thing. and gretchen carl sn, when she won the crown. >> mike: she won? >> what did your evening gown look like the night you won. >> this is the 80's and everything is big and that meant that the gowns weighed 20 pounds, full of beads, but the most important thing go with your gut. a lot of people said you needed to wear white to win and i wore blue because that's what i felt good in. >> that's gretchen in her blue gown. >> that's beautiful aring beautiful, very beaded. she was right. speaking of which, let's talk about a woman who did something completely antithetical to being a pageant queen. this is a woman. her book is making the round everywhere, called "the beauty experiment", this is a woman who decided to forego all hair salons, all makeup, all beauty products for an entire year and what she learned about herself and society. >> she was trying to teach us a lesson about vanity, right, a survey came out on friday that said that women look in the mirror 35 times every single day. ali would you say you do that? >> i don't think i did. it's possible. i don't think i look in the mirror 35 times a day. i hope not, but i understand the problem because we are all a little addicted to makeup and getting to the hair dress her and the beauty products. i think it's brave for her to try to forego it for a year. >> tucker: i bet her husband didn't notice. i bet only other women noticed. i'm serious, people-- there was a study recently that showed that women spend most of their time looking at other women, not in a romantic way, but to assess physical beauty. and women, have work done for other women and-- >> well, this woman named phoebe, she said that this-- a quote from her, i noticed a change in my inner voice, she had become softer and less judgmental and talked to herself, of me, and the women around me. bad hair days meant nothing. and my face without makeup, not a hideous problem. >> and wait a second, she's totally cute and i'm not against this as an experiment or, and i'm definitely for deemphasizing physical appearance it's too important, however, you know, we don't want to be too ideological about it. brush your teeth and comb your hair. >> alisyn: her only rules she would use sunscreen and moisturizer. >> what about deodorant. >> alisyn: that's not a beauty product, that's a hygiene-- >> when you run to the deli, do you get made up. >> no, i put my hair up in a pony tail and in sweats and always see someone in that getup. and i take the subway, and in that outfit. alisyn camerota, i can't believe that people can-- >> that's a compliment, you're recognizable without makeup. >> alisyn: people are observant. >> mike: you've run into colleagues here, and oh! like me, you don't know who they are. >> alisyn: it is true. it happens. and why don't you send us your e-mails and tweet us, and find us at our name and let us know what you think about that beauty experiment. >> mike: here is a good looking man with or without makeup. >> tucker: i saw him without makeup. >> rick: scary, i'm yeall for a year without makeup as long as it's not a year without hygiene products. and alisyn, i he see her all the time at the gym without it, sleeping on the comfy couches. >> alisyn: relaxing. >> rick: take a look at the weather map, guys, waking up across the northern plains and it's cold, and that cold air is going to be with us for another three to four days across the areas of the west, around wednesday, starts to change, but you're waking up to a cold one. let's look what's going on across the east. if it's cold somewhere, you got abnormally warm next to it. look at the temperatures in o-o. and enjoy today, because the cold front is moving through and pick your city there. now look at tomorrow and the temps drop out tomorrow across parts of the ohio valley and we're still hanging on to the 50's, boston down to d.c. and take a look at tuesday. and those are gone and once those are gone, they're gone, we're not going to be looking at those kinds of temperatures for a long time. in fact, the next two weeks or so looking like big blasts of extremely cold air. so, enjoy today, is what i'm trying to tell you. take a look at your forecast today. in across the northeast, your highs 50's and 60's, a lot of fog and pretty significant cloud cover as well. down to the southeast, another extremely warm day, florida, looking great. and the temps have been so warm all week long and people using the a.c. in january across areas of florida. stormy conditions and rain continuing from louisiana up through kentucky and into the northern plains and the front moved through, but it's very cold. so you continue to see those temps into the single digits across much of north dakota and a few scattered flurries as well at times. across the west, try things out, but that dry condition continuing to be cold and overnight lows below freezing in the desert, we have hard freeze warnings in effect all the way down to southeastern, arizona, as well as some of the low elevations across southern california. another cold one tonight. tomorrow night and tuesday night as well as we start to see things changing up there. alisyn, did you take off your makeup. >> alisyn: no, i don't want to, i'm too nervous. thanks for the suggestion. the rest of your headlines, what else is happening while you've been sleeping. a look at paris, france, hundreds of thousands of people protesting the french president's plan to legalize same sex marriage there. people are expecting about 300,000 people to march towards the eiffel tower from three different points in the city, tying up traffic, closing subway stations for hours, this is expected to be the largest demonstration there in a decade a 400 pound woman says her size saved her life in new york. yolanda williams, on the cover of the new york post. she was waiting for the bus friday night. suddenly the side walk collapsed under her and she fell six feet into a building cellar. the fall was severe enough a thinner woman might have died. and-- >> saved by the belly. so the moral here is, eat up. >> alisyn: i guess. >> true? >> unless the sidewalk collapsed because of her weight. >> ali. >> alisyn: i don't know the answer to that, we'll find out. and meanwhile, botox can apparently fix your mood and your marriage. good news, mike. according to washington d.c., dermatologist says that the toxin may make you appear less anger, and obviously selfless here, no self-interest. botox paralyzes the frown muscles, making it more difficult to scowl and patients feel less depressed. i might want to see more studies. >> tucker: a guy who sells botox, says that botox makes you happy. >> mike: hard to react to that, but i can't move my face. >> tucker: there's a book out by scientology, won a pulitzer prize that was about al-qaeda, not a tabloid kind of guy. and says that he tom cruise was put on the earth to vanquish aliens. and what it's like inside the so-called church and turns out that the church apparently has chosen every one of tom cruise's girlfriends and wives. >> alisyn: it's pretty scintillating stuff and tuck are tucker says it's not a journalist normally given to sensationalism, he was married to mimi rogers and he developed a crush on nicole kidman and then the church foe that he could marry nicole kidman and katie holmes was selected. but a lot of information from the girlfriend prior to katie holmes and when she did leave tom cruise one of her punishments was to scrub a public bathroom with a toothbrush. an amazing scene he's talking about having dinner with the person who runs the scientology and the new girlfriend the church found for him and she's feeling sick and not proply deferential to the head of the cult and cruise breaks up with her over it. >> alisyn: and he says he's number three in the the operation and i was astounded by the salary he apparently gets, according to this, had a billion dollar a year contract. >> tucker: no it's a billion year contract. >> for a billion years. >> alisyn: i thought it was a billion dollar contract. >> tucker: no, a billion years and he's number three in the organization. number one perp in the dead is l. ron hubbard. >> mike: i think that tom cruise is doing a great job fighting aliens, when is the last time you've seen an alien on earth? get off his back. and the people around the countries, the long lines? philadelphia had to wait seven hours on thursday to get a flu shot. what are we going to do about this? we break down the difference between the needle and the nasal spray vaccination, just as good. >> tucker: forget the thin mint. get your hands on the latest vitamin packed girl scout cookie coming up. ♪ ÷÷ >> well, the flu is an epidemic in the u.s. for decades we had only one type of flu shot. and now the newer shot or the flu mist. pediatrician joins us to explain the difference as well as how to prepare your kids tomorrow for school with all of this. doctor, great to see you. >> thank you, alisyn. >> alisyn: what is the difference of the spray versus the shot? >> well, they're two completely different vaccines. the shot is an inactivated vaccines, it cannot give you mild symptoms. >> alisyn: that's a great myth. >> right. >> alisyn: people think i'm going to get the flu shot and get the flu. you're saying it's not a live virus. >> it's absolutely impossible. it's not a live virus vaccine, it cannot give you symptoms. >> alisyn: the mist? >> the mist is a live virus and holding it up and see what it looks like. it's needleless and goes in the nose. it's a cold adaptive virus, when i put this in your nose, the virus itself cannot replicate at body temperature, but it can give some mild nasal symptoms, you may get a nasal congestion or a sore throat and common complaint after i've given them the vaccination. >> alisyn: otherwise, wouldn't everybody want the mist? they're afraid of shots. >> kids, and some adults are afraid of shots, too. what happens though, this has a broader contraindication, so you cannot give in to children or adults with any type of chronic lung disease, like asthma or copd or anything, or anyone on chemotherapy or immuno compromised with a dulled immune system. both are contraindicated in allergic people and-- >> not everyone can get this. >> and not everyone wants to suffer the possibility of maybe getting some nasal congestion the next day. >> alisyn: let's move on to kids are returning to school tomorrow amidst this epidemic, are schools just a petri dish of flu germs. >> yes, they are. >> alisyn: what are you doing, sending your kid back into the experiment? >> teach the kids, one two and three, wash your hands, wash your hands, wash your hands and effective in hand washes and wash 15 to 20 seconds of running water and soapy water. hand sanitizer works well also, so you can actually use hand sanitizer and dissolves the virus off your hands and you can do that. keep your hands away from your face. we touch our face all day long and flu virus can live on inanimate objects. >> alisyn: that's important one. a flu virus can live for how long on a desk? >> about two to eight hours and also, kids can excrete the virus before they're sick. one kid going into a classroom can sit on another kid sat on healthy and not realizing there's flu virus on the desk, but they're okay if they keep their hand away from their face and don't bite your nails. everybody is putting their hand on their face, and touching food and-- i get my hands covered in flu virus all day long and washes my hands and not getting the flu and i've also been vaccinated. >> alisyn: wash your hands as often as possible and keep your hands away from your eyes and your nose and your mouth. great tips. have you ever heard of this one. a teacher with a phobia of children and it's a real phobia and now suing her school district over discrimination. the future of the auto industry. live to the detroit auto show next. ♪ >> it's the super bowl of auto shows. where companies release the latest cars and the latest car technology. joining us live from the auto show with the car czar, doug brown i remember. >> good morning, tucker, it's the super bowl of car shows, and this is big. three quarters after million people expected to come through the cobo hall in detroit. the economic impact. 400 million dollars money well needed in downtown detroit and this show is big this year. the automakers are back and saying that they are ready to show it off. we snuck in a day early to show you what i think are going to be some of the the show stoppers. we'll start with this. i can see you on in this 7th avenue. all new from chevrolet, 2014 silverado. the truck that gm has been talking about and tested this thing for 17 million miles and it's all new, hood to hitch it starts at just under $25,000. and that's incredible and that's going to put a lot of pressure on ford and f-150. inside the company is saying they'll give you more room and a lot quieter and amenities, starting price point under 25 grand and expected to get pretty good gas mileage. lincoln, yeah, expect to hear about lincoln this year shall the final booth and it's about , nobody's seen this before. it's the mkz concept crossover and lincoln says it's the ultimate lucksly crossover, push button, stitching throughout. ambient lighting everywhere and the up 200% in just four years, lincoln expects to hit it out of the park when it introduces that later today and then this from ford. do not call it a mini-van. ford says a transit wagon, seven passengers seating and notable, over 30 miles to the gallon. i have four kids, i guarantee they'll want one for the drop down tables and ford expects to release it sometime later this year. don't call it a mini-van, by the way. and hyundai, a seven passenger vehicle. seven passengers in and this is built for families specifically, but you still have space behind the third row for your stuff and in fact, holds a whole lot of stuff and go on sale in march under $30,000 and even the rear seats are heated for the little kids and this from acura, the new flag ship. rlx and the headlights on this thing have little jewels to help disperse the light premium throughout, the back seat is huge and four wheels that steer, tucker, all four will move you, which makes this thing unbelievable when you're cornering on the freeway, new from acura and i'll tell you, they needed a new flagship and i think they really have one with the new rlx. >> tucker: i am sold. i can't believe that silverado under 25 grand. i know you were joking when you say you've got to get one of these, i'm going to. >> seriously, me, too, when was the last time you were drawn to a pickup truck and gm needed this tucker, because, the old silverado was steal, let's be be honest. and this they're putting a lot of of thinking it's a winner. >> tucker: i wish it was before christmas. doug, in detroit, thank you very much. the gun debate continues in washington this week, vice-president joe biden laid out his recommendations to the president. what can we expect when we hear about it next week? we'll ask chris wallace, he's joining us the top of the hour, because, bye-bye california, hello sin city? we'll tell you about a potentially massive deal that britney spears may be in vegas. ♪ [ male announcer ] some day, your life will flash before your eyes. make it worth watcng. introducing the 2013 lexus ls. an entirely new pursuit. >> good morning everyone, it's sunday, january 13th, i'm alisyn camerota. they said no to the n.r.a., but the administration is getting ready for sweeping new gun proposals and words they may be talkiking points from a group. >> tucker: and a teacher says she can can't teach because of a severe phobia she has, she says she's afraid of kids. we will have the details. >> mike: we showed you this picture. kate's official portrait. thumbs down from a lot of people even our critics and we'll ask our critic to weigh in. is that beauty or kind of ugly? and "fox & friends" this sunday morning, is your third hour starts right now. ♪ >> good morning, again, everyone, thank you for joining us, something important to come up. the top ten words you're most likely mispronouncing and you've been embarrassing yourself for years by mispronouncing and i can't believe how many words there i supposedly mispronounce. >> mike: we found 11 i've been mispronouncing half of them. >> tucker: it's not like you do them on tv. >> mike: i knew the banal. >> tucker: who says that, that ought to be a felony. >> alisyn: well. >> mike: are you a numberologist. >> alisyn: no. >> mike: today is 1-13-13. do you know what it means? don't look. >> alisyn: thank you mike for that. >> tucker: who is influencing the white houses gun control? it could be the n.r.a.? no, it's a left wing think tank funded by george soros, according to the washington post this morning has given a list of 13 or so gun control ideas to the white house, which they may act on by executive order. >> alisyn: we're going to find out on tuesday, what the vice-president has come up with with his task force and it's interesting, one place that we've heard common ground, and as we heard reported perhaps the administration is considering putting armed guards in schools and that's one thing where it seemed like the n.r.a. and the white house and other people have suggested this over the the past week, since the newtown tragedy, maybe that was a point of commonalty, but what we're hearing if it's true that this left wing think tank really has the president's ear and the white house's attention then the they would not be happy. >> mike: what's with the meeting last week with n.r.a., video game manufacturers, mental health experts? >> a listening tour, basically, that the vice-president said he's trying to solicit suggestions from as many different groups and corners as possible. >> are they more influenced by the center for american progress. >> tucker: do you think. >> mike: with the long rlist. >> tucker: and i guess what people bother, telitism, with the body guards and not like the rest of us. and david gregory showed a magazine on television, he wasn't charged he wasn't doing anything threatening. >> mike: a prop, show and tell. >> tucker: yet, i got an e-mail from a friend of mine who trains the military in combat techniques, what would happen if i drove into washington with a magazine in the back of my car and hit by a car and the police saw that magazine i'd go to jail. this is a military veteran and a person defending this country not making it dangerous, he would not get the benefit of the doubt here. there's a feeling that average people kind of get the shaft and no, you can't defend yourself. yes, you are subject to the restrictive laws and the rest in congress and media aren't. >> mike: what's going to happen on tuesday when the vice-president comes out with his recommendations from his panel there? will he suggest armed guards in schools? and should it just be armed guards or how about, some people said let's arm teachers. >> alisyn: that's in fact happening. one school district in ohio. >> mike: they're going with custodians, aren't they. >> alisyn: a new plan and that's to arm nonteaching employees, janitors and custodians, it's a voluntary program and so far here in mou they have to take a two day mange course and every school is trying something and desperate to make sure that nothing like newtown can happen if their district and have people, not teachers, but people in the schools with guns and they would have to train and practice a lot. in an emergency situation, just having a gun on you doesn't necessarily help. >> mike: on the other-- remember what happened a month ago at new york empire state building. some guy with a gun comes out and police surround him and they did get him. nine people were shot, not by the perpetrator. nine people shot were shot by the cops. bullets were flying everywhere. >> tucker: this is a complicated question and i respect people's concerns about kids. reality check, our schools are very safe, actually. there are tragic school shootings, but the average student is not going to see anything like that in his lifetime. and the average school is a sanctuary and they're already safe, so deep breath. >> mike: exactly. deep breath. >> alisyn: good point. your headlines and tell you what else is happening at this hour, new york's governor declaring a flu imagine, temporarily suspend a law that bans pharmacies from vaccinating people from underage 18 and now they'll be able to give the shot to kids as young as six months old. with the outbreak reaching epidemic levels, many people are finding themselves waiting in long lines like this one to get the shot. well, more than 200 protesters take to the streets of staten island, new york, of course hit hard by superstorm sandy and frustrations boiling over this and many say that congress is dragging its feet on passing a bill to send more more aid. >> they did it with katrina in nine days, we're 70 days over, and what are we getting? >> there are many families down here, ones that pay taxes, pay their flood insurance, pay their home owners insurance and are now paying rent on top of everything else. they have the money, i'm sure each and every one of them got their christmas bonuses we're sitting here, sitting here trying to do everything ourselves. >> alisyn: they have been waiting a long time and obviously very angry. the house of representatives are set to vote on the 51 billion dollar release bill on tuesday. this is good news on the condition of former president george h.w. bush. last night a spokesman for the 41st president said he could be released from a houston hospital this week, and president bush's son jeb is more optimistic and he says he thinks his father will go home tomorrow. the 88-year-old was admitted for a bronchitis related cough. >> mike: what a night if you're a football fan. if you watched the broncos-ravens game. >> tucker: no. >> mike: it's an instant classic, we'll see it over and over again on espn. under a minute to go, ravens q.b. flacco hits the hail mary kind of pass and i don't know how he got behind the defense, in overtime peyton manning forces a pass and intercepted by the ravens and now in double overtime the ravens kick a game winning 47 yard field goal to stun denver and all of those fans, 38-35. and then in san francisco, another pretty good game. 49ers quarterback, colin kaepernick led them to a victory over the green bay packers and the quarterback himself rushed for 181 yards and two touchdowns, boy, having a great season. and he replaced the other quarterback earlier this season and got the a chance and took advantage of it. >> alisyn: i knew that. >> tucker: fantastic. what is happening outside? we know what's going on in here in the studio, rick, how is it out there. >> rick: it's really nice across the east and cold out west. and guess where the dividing line is, there, big storms, anywhere to the west, texas, oklahoma, kansas, texas is cooler. if your in front of that, it's warm, damp and muggy and foggy as well. some of this rain falling so long, flooding concerns across parts of louisiana, and areas of louisiana well over a foot of rain this week so that's too much for you to get in such a short period of time. and rain spreaded into the ohio valley. rain not snow because it's been so warm. the cold is going to get here and much more like winter. this is where the flooding concerns are, flood watches and warnings, areas of red, flash flooding going on right now. across parts of southeastern arkansas as well as tennessee and flooding up to areas of michigan and pennsylvania from the storm. you can see, that's where the rain is and where the front is, so anywhere to the east it's warm. 63 degrees we're in mid january in cleveland, and it's 63 degrees. go back towards the west, and it's cold. 31 in phoenix, not normally see that kind after contrast, but the temperatures should be flip flopped this time of year, adding the wind and feels much colder, like minus 20 in denver and go up into the mountains and feels like minus 30, minus 35. incredibly cold air out there. it's going to change by wednesday across parts of the west and tomorrow though, still another cold one. warmth hanging on across areas of the southeast and florida looking still very warm, likely all the way until saturday or sunday. guys. >> mike: all right, now let's say that rick, does a great job with the weather was allergic to isobars, and could he sue the channel for making him do the weather? that's his job. it's kind of what's going on with a teacher, she says she's developed a fear in the classroom and the students are-- themselves. there she is right there. so, she's suing the school district because she has this fear of children and trying to teach french to these children. >> tucker: that makes total sense, i can't do my job, but you should be required to pay me if you don't, the government will punish you. if the department, civil-- division the justice department come to her aid. >> alisyn: 61 years old. a french teacher and the school district want today move her from high school where she's been teaching effectively for many years, to junior high. and so, she says that this phobia called pediphobia prevents her from being around children. >> tucker: that aged children. >> alisyn: actually, i think that it's for younger children. i don't know if it's for middle school, but anyway, the symptoms, it actually is a real phobia and it's real and recognized, but extremely rare and here are symptoms, terror, dread, rapid heartbeat. shortness of breath, nausea, dry mouth and anxiety. >> mike: and the need to wear turtle neck sweaters. >> alisyn: it did not say that. >> tucker: it might be time to work through your fears. the truth is we all have phobias, and we can work through them. part of what means to grow. >> mike: a lot of you weighed in. and look what jim said, the teacher were involved when she accepted the position, no one tricked her, she can get over it or resign. >> alisyn: well, she liked high school age better. >> tucker: if the teacher who is suing because she has a phobia of kids is successful then i think i will be bringing my own lawsuit not because i have a phobia of kids, but because i just don't like them very much. they are sticky and messy, says fred. >> alisyn: i hope fred is not a baby sitter. and kim says, so can i sue the nfl because i'm 5-6 and have a phobia of getting hit by a 6-4 linebacker, i really want to play football, tim. >> mike: and that story on "fox & friends." coming up, the gun debate rages on and we're talking about it this morning. what actual gun control recommendations will the vice-president, joe biden, present to the president on tuesday? chris wallace is in d.c. where it's going to happen on tuesday. >> tucker: next stop, sin city. we'll tell you about the potentially massive deal in the works for britney spears. ♪ [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day 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[ male announcer ] e pill eachmorning. 24 hours. zero heartbur >> president obama will get gun violence control recommendations from joe biden on tuesday, what can we expect? >> joining us right now, for fox news sunday today, chris wallace, good to see you. >> hey, guys. >> mike: some predictions here. what do you think the vice-president's recommendations are going to be on tuesday? >> well, i don't think it's actually too hard to predict. the vice-president has said a lot of it before he made the recommendations. i think you're going to see a call for a ban on assault weapons, some kinds of limits on the high capacity magazines that can hold 30 rounds or a hundred rounds. i think you're going to see a real big push for universal background checks on all gun sales, about 40% of gun sales at gun shows, especially, private sales, there's no background check and i think you're going to see that and then probably some tougher enforcement and crackdown on gun trafficking and not surprised if you saw some measures, i don't know if it will be legislation or voluntary calls for things like some kind of restraint in hollywood on these violent video games and movies and maybe some proposals on mental health care. >> tucker: chris, has the vice-president's office explained what that would mean, universal background checks, in every individual sale. if i sell you a gun, just the two of us, that we have to register with the government. is that what that means? >> yeah, that's exactly what it means. they say, look, you know, who is to say if you sell me a gun i'm stable or don't have all the problems that they don't want people to have, a criminal record, mental health problem. and yeah, and then obviously as you say that would involve a lot more paper work, regulation, and you know, so some people are going to oppose that because there are all kinds of-- people give guns to their kids or relatives or friends. but that's what one of the things that they're talking about, are universal background checks and the argument would be, and i can certainly understand the arguments against it, the argument would be, if the gun rights people say the problem isn't the weapon, it's the person. then you've got to check the person out. >> alisyn: chris, let's talk about the politics of this, which of course are dicey. there's a report in the washington post today that the vice-president is getting some of the suggestions from center for american progress, a liberal organization in washington, and that one of the things that they are calling for is some executive action, that if the president can't get congressional consensus, that he just unla unilaterally makes some move. is that wise or unwise in this climate today? >> let me just make it clear, ali. most of the things i've talked about he couldn't do by executive action. he could do some things on the margin, better information sharing, the states, for instance, have a lot of information on mental health and criminal records and that doesn't get into the national data base. he can do some things to try to improve that, or improve enforcement. the n.r.a. said let's enforce the laws already on the books. in terms of banning assault weapons or universal background checks, he couldn't do that by executive action. so, what he can do by himself is on the margins. >> mike: chris, who is on the show today? >> we'll be talking-- you talked of the american center for progress. we'll talk to the head of that and larry pratt of gun owners of america and a discussion between them. and it's very interesting, all right, let me tell that first and go back. we're also going to be talking about the president's confirmation takes on national security and we're going to talk to two members of the senate armed services committee and on chuck hagel, kelly ayotte, and richard blumenthal from connecticut. and let me go back, they are talking about, you know, some things they'd like to see happen and try to launch their own campaign. they know the power of the n.r.a., the gun lobby and try to create fund raising and their own support for a big campaign to try to persuade some of the members of congress is a good thing and-- >> a good get. thank you, chris, we'll be watching. >> you bet, thanks. >> tucker: we showed you this yesterday, kate's first portrait, profound thumbs down by some art critics. and how they made it ugly-- >> it's growing on me. >> tucker:. >> alisyn: and babies, when they cry. do you let them cry it out? let them cry it out. the advice of a new study. a pediatrician to answer whether that's the right strategy. and babies, look how well behaved these babies are. ♪ >> oh, good, yummy. it's girl scout cookie time and this year, they're going healthy. the newest flavor, mango cream, a nutritious option, and girl scouts say the cookie fans are looking for a healthier choice. is britney spears planning a big move to sin city. ♪ >> tmz is reporting the pop star is close to inking a huge deal to headline in las vegas and spears could get paid more than 100 million dollars per year. wow, life is looking up for the former x-factor judge who just split with her fiance on thursday. here is ali. >> alisyn: listen up all you parents. you may be tempted to let your baby cry it out next time they wake up at night. it's important for babies to self-sooth in order to start life long good sleeping habits. and joining us is a pediatrician at washingtonville pediatrics in new york and she's going to help us unlock the secret to getting babies to sleep through the night. great to have you here. >> thank you very much. >> alisyn: so many parents struggle with this, whether or not to let them cry it out or go in and suppose today pick them up or smooth them. where do you fall on this debate? >> i'm very much into allowing a baby to fall asleep on their own. >> alisyn: even if it means they're crying for a long period of time. >> i think the way we do it at my practice, we start very early so we start talking about this when they come in, before the baby is even born. we talk about catching them when they're tired and putting them down before they start to get so upset and crying. and learning to fall asleep on their own and you don't have to deal with this with an eight month old screaming the whole night long. >> alisyn: great suggestion. these babies are well behaved. they're trick babies and make you think they're well behaved. and there's always a debate, i have lots of colleagues right now who are expecting. what's the advantage or disadvantage to a co-sleeper like this? >> well, if there's two different meanings to co-sleeping, that could mean that the baby is sleeping in your room. >> alisyn: yes, in your bed even. >> that's a different meaning in your bed, okay? i don't recommend sleeping in the bed. there is so much evidence that a baby needs a safe sleeping environment, means a baby and a bed, their own bed, firm mattress, tight set of sheet, that's it. >> alisyn: do you like something like this, it's up next to the parent's bed and pick the baby out. >> fine for the first few weeks, similar to having the crib next to the bed so you can get up in the middle of the night, feed the baby and baby back in the crib. >> alisyn: what is your philosophy on wake and sleep? what should the parents be looking at for cues. >> for wake and sleep? well, there are a lot of people that are proponents of sleep props. sleep props. >> alisyn: pacifiers. >> pacifiers could be one of them, but things like feeding the baby right before they go to bed, swaddling them up, rocking them. walking over like this and putting them down. i think all of those things really don't teach the baby to do the sleeping on their own. so, sleep props i think get in the way and prolong this whole process. >> alisyn: this little guy, oh, oh, what's going on over here. and here is a question, doctor. pick up or put down. when the baby is fine, pick them up? >> now is not bedtime. >> alisyn: oh, but pick up, if the baby is crying you always pick them up and help them. and he sees his daddy. let's walk over here. >> at this point, yes, absolutely appropriate. >>, but sometimes in the middle of the night the baby might whimper and it doesn't necessarily mean pick-me-up, it might mean i'm tired and let me fall asleep. >> alisyn: do either of these babies have sleeping issues at night? because you did the right thing. >> yes. >> alisyn: what was that. >> cry it out. >> alisyn: how about this guy? a good sleeper. he is a good baby. what's your name? >> andrew. >> alisyn: andrew, you are a good, good baby. >> they're my parents. >> alisyn: and take away for parents, one thing to tell them is what. >> follow your baby's cues, pick an early bedtime between seven or eight. when they're tired put them down and allow them to cry a little bit. and self-sooth, they will fall asleep. >> alisyn: that's the answer. dr. suzanne, thanks so much and thanks to you guys and the kids. they're great. >> thank you so much. >> alisyn: all right. meanwhile, coming up, a year ago today, the costa concordia crashed on the coast of italy with thousands on board. two survivors share their firsthand account next. plus, a new miss america takes a crown. and we reveal the winner coming up. >> i think so, it will be in great hands. here we go. ladies and gentlemen, miss america is... ♪ my one and only baby, my one and only baby ♪ ♪ be my baby now, whoa, whoa, oh, oh ♪ ♪ ♪ >> welcome back, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but the first official portrait of the duchess of cambridge, many saying it makes her look old and dowdy. >> mike: and our next guest to analyze it for us, matt sweetwood, president of unique photo, a huge operation in huge, right. >> that's correct. >> mike: good to have you here. >> great to be here. >> mike: it took this portraitist, three and a half months to create of this kate middleton. what do you think of it? >> it's not what i think of it. it's the question of whose portrait it is. >> she likes it. >> we have a lot of portrait photographers in our store and one of the first rules, you ask your subject what they want the portrait to be. she's a historical figure, i'm sure she sees herself like that, she is not a model on vogue magazine and i think of it in the reverse, imagine if they had portrayed her as a 18 or 20-year-old the artist could have done that then we would be talking ow they objectify women and made her a beauty and it's not really what she's about and i'm guessing she's thinking, look, this portrait will be there a long time and a lot of history that goes on for me, i'm going to be ruling a nation or whatever her position will be, and i really want to be remembered for the things that i do, not for the way i look. and that's what i'm guessing that she did. a lot of people are like that when they want portraits. they don't wan retouched portraits. >> tucker: tn from my perspective, it looks like a photograph and it doesn't look like a conventional oil painting. >> that's the artist's style. i wouldn't want a picture like that done of me, air put on me, things like that, it looks like an untouched photograph like if you look at a photographers work before they have he' actuactually put a pho shop-- >> it looks like an untouched photograph when she's 40 or 35, and not now. and kate apparently asked to be depicted in her national state and not official state, maybe you said for posterity. to be used for generations to come, but she does look older. there are bags under her eyes and she doesn't have the sort of color to her skin that she has in real life. so, maybe he went overboard. >> it could be, but she has some, i guess, say in what the final product is. if she didn't like it, would have made him redo it. >> i bet we wouldn't have this reaction if it's a man. if they would have done it of charles or william, we wouldn't. she's a pretty woman and we want to see her like a pretty woman like she is now and when it happens, people get upset. >> is there any person on the planet, gay, straight, in between, whatever, who is going to stair at a portrait of a man. >> certainly not me, i'm from jersey. >> alisyn: that says it all. and the president of unique photo in jersey, nice job. >> go out to rick and the weather. >> what about pippa. >> that's what they want to know, pippa. >> rick: gold temps are uncomfortably and actual air temperature minus 6 in denver and 31 in phoenix. it does not happen often. how about 21 in el paso. that's how cold it is. warmer across the east and also foggy so we have all kinds of fog advisories for about 16 different states. and starting in maine to the mid atlantic, the roads are dangerous at times and headed through some of the mountain passes and the valleys and give yourself plenty of time. and georgia and coastal areas, we're going to see much of the fog throughout the morning. take a look at your forecast through the day. once that mixes up, we'll see the cloudy conditions across the northeast and temperatures are very nice, at 63, you see in akron, enjoy it. tomorrow, back down to the 40's and see the showers slowly move off towards the east and heavier rain across parts of the southeast and actually that kind of middle mississippi river valley in towards ken-- kentucky and tennessee. and 43 for a high today in abilene. and only 1 for a high in grand forks, north dakota. very cold there. 18 in alliance, nebraska, across the west, we'll continue to see more sunshine, but very, very cold temperatures. back to you inside. >> mike: thank you. >> alisyn: okay, let me first tell you your headlines and get to what i know you're dying to do over there. >> mike: chomping. >> alisyn: the news at this hour, on the heels of reviewing national gun safety laws. vice-president biden offered to talk one-on-one with the families of the newtown school shooting, a group called sandy hook promise has been working with the families since the massacre and say they will he' help coordinate any conversation between the families and the vp. the white house says we remain in touch with families from newtown and we'll present an opportunity for all of them to share their views before the president makes any decisions. well, the italian of-- they're releasing footage. and two passengers shared their incredible story of survival. >> we made it to a life boat and as our life boat was being lowered down to the water, it kept banging into the ship because the ship was leaning over so severely by that point that our life boat couldn't go down. so they hauled it back up to where we started. >> we eventually got off the ship by tying knots on ropes and rappel down the side of the cruise liner. >> alisyn: tonight, a mass will be held in italy for the 32 victims who died. 32 illuminated lanterns released into the sky marking the exact moment that the concordia crashed into a bed of rock. robert f. kennedy, jr. speaking out saying that not all of the president-- not all the kennedys i should say, believe that jfk was killed by one shooter. during a ceremony in texas honoring his uncle's death and he says his dad did not secretly agree with the findings of the warren commission report. says it was full of problems and also says he's convinced by the evidence that lee harvey oswald did not act alone. all right, meanwhile, your new miss america is in a new york state of mind. >> your new miss america is... miss new york. >> alisyn: i'm still nervous every time i see it. miss new york crowned the winner last night in las vegas. the 23-year-old beat out first runner up miss south carolina and miss oklahoma who came in third. and she's originally from alabama, but moved to brooklyn in 2008. our own miss america, gretchen carlson was there, sharing moments when she won that crown. >> what did your evening gown look like the night you won? >> brook, remember this was the '80s, everything was big and meant that the gowns weighed about 20 pounds, full of beads, but the most important thing go with your gut and a lot of people said you had to wear white to win, but i wore blue because that's what i felt good in. >> alisyn: check out gretchen carlson in that very blue gown looking good. >> mike: ali, do you read dr. suess' books to your children. >> alisyn: i call him dr. suess. >> and we mispronounce words. >> tucker: can you mispronounce a made up word? >> dr. suess. >> alisyn: and what do we mispronounce. >> i have been saying kibosh. >> alisyn: no, i think kibosh. >> no, kibosh. >> tucker: i think you've been pronouncing it correctly. >> alisyn: i've been saying kibosh, you were right. >> i'm brilliant. >> alisyn: how do you say boston celtics. >> tucker: celtics. >> alisyn: you say it's boston celtics. >> tucker: no, celtics. >> like the music. i've been saying comptroller, there's a p. >> alisyn: i know and a t, or an m. >> tucker: but they're silent. >> alisyn: you're supposed to say comptroller for controller? >> what about cache? it's a cache. >> tucker: if something has cache. >> alisyn: it needs a t for cache, otherwise cache. banal. >> mike: banal. >> tucker: it's not banal. don't make that mistake. and niche. >> mike: it's niche. >> alisyn: i say niche, is that wrong. >> tucker: i think it's niche. >> tucker: the truth is english is a language and we're going to define those as we choose. how do you pronounce words. which do you have trouble pronouncing correctly, and have you embarrassed had your self. e-mail and tweet us. >> alisyn: affluent or affluent. >> mike: affluent. >> alisyn: affluent. >> mike: what about advertisement or advertisement. >> tucker: come on. >> alisyn: yeah, come on. >> mike: i said advertisement once and laughed out of the room. >> tucker: unless you're from great britain. >> mike: a liberal tv host probably heard him, calling on the president to ban the bible at inauguration, get rid of it. is that a war on christianity? oh, it's sunday. that means it's time for father jonathan morris. >> tucker: and the oscars are out. and the biggest snubs. ♪ >> welcome back, everybody. well, pastor chosen to deliver the benediction at president obama's inauguration will no longer take part in the event. he withdrew after a sermon he gave years and years ago about gay marriage when it surfaced. >> tucker: this caused a firestorm on the left and led some to attack the bible itself. watch this. >> the president, following one of our most assertive traditions in the government that invented separation of church and state will put his hand on this book filled with things he does not believe, filled with things that no one in the united states of america believes, and with his hand on this book, he will recite the oath of office. >> tucker: and get that most absurdist. and father jonathan morris, what do you make of this. the most absurdist? >> most absurdist, no doubt, right after the fact that there's a wave of intolerance sweeping this country. intolerance of any public expression of god or religion, it's a wave and sweeping this country. >> tucker: where is it coming from? >> certainly interest spokes people, activists who would like to wipe the face of god not only of public conscious. >> alisyn: what he's saying, he doesn't believe that president obama believes every word of the bible. if you don't believe every word and many americans don't. >> because we don't practice all ten commandments take them down from the courtroom. right now it totally makes sense to do what he is suggesting, get rid of the bible, get rid of any prayer in the inauguration, right? we should get, totally take "in god we trust" off the dollar bill. we should absolutely get rid of any expression whatsoever of religion, if we believe, if we believe that true meaning of separation of church and state means that god stays within the walls of a church. and that's what these activists are doing. we should also take the mention of god out of our constitution, in god we trust, really? >> well, this guy is not going to be happy, the president is going to double down, he's going to have two bibles, one from abraham lincoln and martin luther king. >> well done, but as i said in god we trust, one nation under god out of our constitution, and get rid of it altogether and if you believe what these activists believe, that is that this is bad for our country. but you know, with the president doing the two bibles, mike, i think it's a wonderful thing he's doing it, but if you take the bibles and rip the pages out of them and that's what we're doing in our culture, we still believe in the bible, but nothing that's said within it. it's like a tabernacle with no eucharist, like a church without pews. worship without any liturgy whatsoever and that's what we're doing, we're emptying all of these good things of their meaning and when we do, when we empty them, that topples and-- >> and when you remove god from the equation, again the church is, i mean, rather the state is the final north on everything. there's no appeal beyond the government. and that's what some people want. >> and our founders of our country and the great tradition of the united states has always been-- >> and others in the constitution they have to use the bible. in fact, george washington at the inauguration, let's just use the bible. >> one president chose not to, teddy roosevelt way back in the the day. >> it's allowing our politicians to be who they are. and thank god president obama is deciding. instead of doing anything that anybody doesn't agree with. >> alisyn: thank you, father jonathan. and next on the president's immigration reform, and does that mean amnesty for illegal aliens. a live report from washington. >> tucker: awards season is in full swing. oscar snubs and surprises, both coming up. ♪ ♪ so, we all set? i've got two tickets to paradise! pack your bags, we'll leave tonight. uhh, it's next month, actually... eddie continues singing: to tickets to... paradiiiiiise! no four. remember? whoooa whooaa whooo! you know ronny, folks who save hundreds of dollars by switching to geico sure are happy. and how happy are they jimmy? happier than eddie money running a travel agency. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. >> awards season is in full swing with the golden globes set to take place tonight. all abuzz about the oscar nominations and snubs and surprises this week. >> mike: joining us for the oscar roundup. kevin mccarthy, this was a bad year for nominees, and first i thought of was ben affleck in argo. >> the worst decision i've he seen from the academy since 1999 when they gave "shakespeare in love" best picture over "saving private ryan." ben affleck has one of the best films, the airline, smooth as silk according to tony mendez, he's a brilliant director and snubbed beyond belief by the acadeacademy. >> alisyn: why did they snub him? >> they are out of touch. i don't know what they're thinking, but i was at the critics choice awards and i'm a voting member and voted for ben affleck for best director and surprised and made a funny joke about the oscar snub, here is the video. check this out. >> i would like to thank the acade academy-- i'm kidding, i'm kidding. this is the one that counts. >> there you go. very gracious. >> and the critics awarded him. >> yeah. >> and that was the worst snub i've seen in years and moving on, tom hooper for "les mis." i mean, those actors sang live for 12 hours a day, we had an intimate experience how could you not nominate that. nine best pictures. you have to have nine best directors. the films did not direct themselves. unbelievable. and katherine bigelow, this amazing film, "zero dark thirty," the last 40 minutes of that movie are some of the most intensive' seen in years. she took a ten-year story and compacted it to two and a half hours and gave us an incredibly emotional journey of jessica chastain's acting. by the way, what this does now, now that those three are out of the picture we're left with frontrunners, lincoln, versus silver linings play book. and interesting about "lincoln", a steven spielberg film has never won an academy award with best actor and actress, that will change with daniel day-lewis. and silver lining play book, first since "red", for all categories. >> the roan why the academy liked "lincoln" most of them actually knew them. >> exactly. >> that's a line and i stole it. >> they're just so out of touch. >> tucker: what about leonardo dicaprio. >> alisyn: did he deserve something. >> he's nominated three times. they're going to give him the martin scorcese effect. and let him win later on in his career for a film that's not deserving. and martin scorcese, why didn't he win for taxi driver. and gary oldman, tinker tailor, soldier spice. and javier bardem, a bond actor has not been nominated. tommy lee jones and alan arkin weren't as good. and what was your surprise. >> the nomination for the nine-year-old, as well as emanuel ariffa for the 85-year-old. the youngest and oldest actress nominations in the history of the academy many and by the way. emanuel turns 86 the night of the academy awards, that's cool. >> alisyn: and kevin, thank you. >> thank you so much, guys. >> tucker: people across the country waiting in line to get a flu shot as the outbreak spreads and now a second state declared a health emergency. the latest on the epidemic. >> mike: an overweight woman falls through a sidewalk, and saved by the belly. an unlikely hero. we'll explain after the break. >> morning everyone. it's sunday january 13th td. i am alisyn camerota. who is really influencing the white house when it comes to gun. it could be a liberal think tank in dc. we will explain that story today. >> coming up on the president's to do list immigration reform. what does that mean exactly? does it mean amnesty for illegals? take a look at his plan. >> a woman's year long challenge. lose some makeup all together. is this a good lesson in vanity or a stunt gone way too far? we report, you decide. >> image this without makeup. >> yikes. >> fox and friends 4th hour on a sunday starts right now. (rooster crowing) >> i started this morning with -- saw you this morning without makeup you looked exactly the same. >> thank you. >> except you have red hair in real life. >> thank you so much for joining us. mike is sitting in for the vacationing clayton morris. let's talk about the top story that is what can happen on tuesday when the vice president reveals the proposals he comes up with to combat gun violence. we will find out if he was listening to all people at the white house like the nra or is if there is a liberal think tank called center for american progress that actually has had the vice president's ear and they have 13 proposals. >> you know about them. center for american progress. >> it was started by chief of staff for bill clinton. these are not new proposals. a lot of these groups have had these lying around for years waiting for an opportunity to impose them on the country. this is clearly an opening for them. what's interesting is this contains one of the proposals is universal background checks is term for universal gun regulation. it will no longer be illegal if congress passes it for anybody to give a shot gun for his son tore christmas without notifying the federal government and getting a background check and registering the weapon. >> on that note this article in the "washington post" says there's an estimated 40 percent of gun sales that happen no questions asked. >> that is one of those numbers throw around in the media not at all clear where that comes from at all. >> it doesn't say the source but that is a shocking number if that is true. >> it is pretty hard to know something like that because we don't. that's a pure estimate. i bet you 20 bucks. i don't know the answer but i bet you 20 bucks that comes from gun control. >> you have been talking to people in washington, d.c. the recommendations are coming out tuesday is there a point there will be compromise? >> here's where the compromise will come? i think a lot of conservatives second amendment advocates believes what everyone believes it's a bad idea for mental patients to get firearms who aren't responsible for themselves who are violent and bent on harming others because they are deranged. clearly against gun violence. that's bad thing that shouldn't happen. what kind of law do you craft? how do you preserve the right of decent people to have firearms protect themselves while preventing nut cases from getting there. >> much harder than it sounds. one thing everybody is calling for is stricter mental health background someone is under the care of sort of the doctor or on some sort of prescription medication might be helpful to know. the proof will be in the pudding on tuesday. we will find out who has the most influence when they hopefully make public what the recommendations are. >> i would like to -- i hope we have a conversation about prescription medication on people's behavior. there's some evidence a number of these shooters in the past couple years were taking antipsychotic medication. did that contribute? i have no idea. worth having that conversation. >> have a big discussion in congress but if you have an executive order the discussion will go away quickly. >> anybody watch janeane's show last night? it goes back to the journal news the newspaper that covers three counties above new york city. they published the names of anybody in the three counties that had a gun. >> so judge jeanine was one of those people. she has it to protect therself from all of the people she she tried to get the answer from the editor and publisher as to why they did that. >> why won't you talk to us? you tell me why you guys released the names of the gun owners is? >> i am sorry. >> hi, janet. >> as you can see we had the door slammed right in our face. >> she was talking a janet, janet the publisher. >> she is apparently one of the decision makers who stand by that decision to publish the names and addresses as well as the editor karen mcbride. >> so judge janeane did weigh in on this. she crystallizes so many things. here is judge jeanine pirro summing it up. >> you think it's important to out us in the after math of the newtown shooting? how dare you connect law abiding citizens who have gone through rigorous background checks, who have been finger printed investigated and received judicial approval to exercise their second amendment rights. how dare you compare them to a nut job on the lunatic fringe in desperate need of medication, playing violent video games for days at a time. this animal massacred innocent babies. he didn't have a pistol permit. he didn't go through a rigorous background check to get a pistol permit. he took someone else's gun. by the way, although it's none of your business there's a reason people have guns. we don't need your sank moan why yous sank moan why yous permission. you dare put our familys in danger you pry in our lives and put our privacy and security and our safety in jeopardy and then you have nothing to say? how about i say it for you. you are nothing but a bunch of power unwilling to defend yourselves frozen in fear, you screwed up, period, end of story. >> judge jeanine hit on a lot of points but why can't we have a conversation. if they stand by their position why can't they come on judge's show. >> they must believe what they are doing is right so come on and explain. >> the media agitates for more gun control that exempts itself. gregory breaks the gun law and all of his friends in the media defend him because he's not a fret but you are mr. and mrs. america you are a threat. president obama setting his sights on the next major overhaul after all of this and that he is immigration system. he plans to give a pass to citizenship reportedly but there are already republican challenge in the works. >> jennifer griffin joins us from dc. hi, jennifer. >> good morning, guys. >> the president vowed to take up immigration reform in one large omnibus bill. marco rubio of florida whose parents were exiled from cuba accuses the president of poisoeo want a current overall of the current immigration laws including last minute laws issuing work permits and halting deportations prior to the election. in a wide ranging interview in the wall street journal rubio explains why republicans must embrace immigration reform and outlines what he hopes to be his signature plan, quote. i think it's a rhetoric by a handful of voices in the minority but loud none the less that have allowed them to create an unfair perception that conservatives and republicans are anti hispanic and anti immigration. and we have to over come that. i don't think there's a lot of pers concern in this country we will get over run by pac's and entrepreneurs. there are 12 million illegal workers in the u.s. but only 6.5 percent of those came here based on unique education or skills. they wanted visas for unskilled labor but stands behind having employers do background checks. rubio wants four or five laws passed rather than an omnibus bill that is easily blocked. he wants to make it easier for those with skills engineers and tech savvy immigrants. the president wants a pathway to citizenship for those already here and vowed to help children of illegal immigrants. >> these are young people who study in our schools, play in our neighborhoods, friends with our kids. they pledge allegiance to our flag. they are americans in their heart, in their minds, in every single way but one, on paper. >> if the president wants to over hall immigration he will need to convince big labor to get on board. marco rubio sees this as a gateway issue for hispanic voters which could lead to some migration to the republican party if successful. 70 percent of the 12 and a half million latino voters cast votes for the president in the last election. >> thanks. >> let's get to the headlines right now. if you are just waking up good news for many new yorkers who were wanting the vaccine to vaccinate their kids during the flu outbreak. governor cuomo declared a flu emergency. many people looking to get the vaccine have been met with long lines like those you just saw as they scramble to get the shot and there has been a shortage nationwide as well. egyptian president must be reck gra mubarek granted an appeal by the courts. this is a video of the people celebrating. it was to prevent the killing of hundreds of protestors. their death came during rallies that toppled his regime nearly two years ago. no date has been set for the 84-year-old retrial. a spokesman for the 41st president said he could be released from a houston hospital this week. president bush's son jeb was even more optimistic saying he thinks his father will go home tomorrow. he was admitted for a bronchitis related cough. >> a 400 pound women says her size saved her life in new york city. this is yolanda williams. she was waiting for the bus friday night when the sidewalk collapsed under her. she fell 6 feet into a building cellar broke her arm in two places. they had to use a crane and cargo net to get her out. the fall was severe enough a thinner woman could have died. >> like a super model could have broken in half. >> that happens. the gun debate rages on in washington, d.c. joe biden as you know meeting with video game makers the other day. but are violent games to blame for violence in our society. we asked a west point psychology professor. that should be interesting. >> newly single brad de cooper revealing who he is taking for his date. >> wait, he's single? how did i miss that? >> he and zoe broke up. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing e all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. hamburger helper can help you back. and with box tops for education on every box, it helps you help your school. so you're doing good, just by making dinner. hamburger helper. available at walmart. using cloud computing and mobile technology, verizon 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association, american psychological association and american academy of pediatrics 30 years of research. a thousand scholars have proven media violence causes violence in our society. they said violent video games are particularly dangerous. >> we have that statement. it bears repeating. they said specifically preliminary studies indicate the negative impact of electronic media such as violent video games may be significantly more severe than that brought by television, movies or music. this is the factor. the video game generation jonesboro high school, virginia tech in the college is now coming to kill our kids. this ain't the end of it. they are coming to the daycare centers and elementary schools and school buses. we have raised a generation of children taught to kill. they are going to get their 15 minutes of fame. it's my job to teach cops to kill and concealed permit holders to kill. i have a best selling video series for concealed weapons holders to be mentally prepared for the battlefield the same thing is being done to children without the training. >> when you train them to kill how dowdy sense ties them? do you use video games? >> the simulators are widely used. every law enforcement officer trains in a realistic simulator. they hold a realistic gun in their head. when the bad guy needs to be shot they shoot. it's conditioned response. precognitive loading. you don't have to think. if a bad guy says i am going to shoot without conscious thought what we do with the video games since they are five years old they play grand theft auto practice blowing cop as heads off. it is conditioning it is classical conditioning. they are taught to associate reward like pavlov's dog. they are taught to associate rewards with inflicting death and suffering. >> if everything you are saying makes sense completely what do we do now? we established i guess i didn't know until this moment these video games to precipitate violence and cause violence, what do we do? >> we have to treat violent visual imagery like alcohol or tobacco or firearms or automobiles or sex. these are all things adults can have but kids can't. anybody who tries to inflict sex on my grandchildren is an abomination. anybody who tries to inflict alcohol or tobacco on my children are an abomination. anybody who tries to inflict violent imagery on children is an abomination. especially the violent video games should be treated just like alcohol or tobacco or automobiles or firearms. >> or pornography for that matter. >> yes. exactly right. it is violent porn nothinograpp. >> you always make a xheling argument. see what happens on tuesday. it is now revealed a football player a famous one who took his own life may have had a brain disease caused by hits to the head. is anything being done by head injuries in sports. what does this mean this emerging science for the future of football. >> from hgtv to dancing robots we are tolling showing you the top gadgets from the consumer electronics 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[ male announcer ] ocuvite. help protect your eye health. >> well, it was gadgets galore in las vegas for the annual consumer electronics show. clayton was out there in the end with 20,000 new products were unveiled and it was a party. here to show us some of the highlights tech expert katie a spokesperson for retail me not.com. hello. >> start with the tv's. gigantic 84 inch tv's that were four times more clear than other tv's. >> every year there's an unofficial theme. this year it was all about 4 k tv's four times the resolution of the 1080 tv's most of us have in our home. it was nice to see bright brill can yapt colors. they came with face recognition technology, voice recognition technology. you could talk to the tv to have it change channels. >> you never have to leave the couch. >> go, change channels. espn. fox news channel. it will pop on. you waive your hand on. >> from panasonic to sony to lg everybody was touting their tv's. >> 20,000 there was a smart fork. >> in a world of 20,000 products how do you stand out? nothing got more press than the intelligent fork from happy lab. it monitors how much you shovel food in your mouth. if you are going too fast it will light up. if will also vibrate in your mouth. crazy, ridiculous. nothing got more attention than the hapi fork. >> i work for a morning show in philadelphia on fox we are constantly talking about our concern for athletes in high school playing football or hockey or whatever. there's a concussion monitor which i think could be a huge break through, folks. >> the big buzz word is concussion rightfully so. x2 bio systems created this patch university of washington university of michigan. you put this behind your ear it monitors hits in real time. what is amazing about that is say you have a player on the field they get hit with high impact it will send the data to a coach or clinician on the field. data doesn't lie. off the field was too hard. >> you know not going to the locker room with a finger eye test. >> it's too late. do this now. >> that's on the market now? >> it's tested by university of houston and washington. they are using it in full practices and full games. >> this i love. it's a 360 camera. let's say you are snow skiing or whatever. >> this is the first of the kind made for action sports. it is a mountable three different cameras on here. it will give you a whole entire perspective. what you sees you cannot just watch the video you can interact with it as you can see on the ipad. how cool is it to be out on the slopes and not just see one flat perspective but to get the full perspective 360 degrees. this will be out later this year. i think it will be huge. >> i would like to wear this on a date. >> i think you should wear it right now. >> hi, how are you? >> robots. >> big deal at this year's show. >> huge at the show this year. you should see the booth at kozi. as you can see we are jamming. so 45 bucks coming out later this year. it will dance. here is the hot one. this is the m robo. you can choreograph it with your own dance moves. how awesome is this? kind of a show stopper. >> he is speechless. he is speechless. >> katie, can you do the robot? >> not like that. >> the robot is doing the robot. >> that's the irony. >> how much fun. consumer electronic show in las vegas. good to see you. >> woke me up. today marks one year since the costa concordia crash with thousands on board. we will hear first hand from two people who were on the ship and how they survived. a woman's year long challenge to lose the makeup. we will tell you how it went. it is a good lesson in vanity or is it just a stunt that went too far? we report you decide. hi, i'm phil mickelson. i've been fortunate to win on golf's biggest stages. but when joint pain and stiffness from psoriatic arthritis hit, even the smallest things became difficult. i finally understood what serious joint pain is like. i talked to my rheumatologist and he prescribed enbrel. enbrel can help relieve pain, stiffness, and stop joint damage. enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, nervous system and blood disorders, and allergic reactions have occurred. before starting enbrel, your doctor should test you for tuberculosis and discuss whether you've been to a region you should not start enbrel if you have an infection like the flu tell your doctor if you're prone to infections, haveuts or sores, have had hepatitis b, have been treated for heart failure, or if you have symptoms such as persistent fever, bruising, bleeding, or paleness. 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[ doctor ] enbrel, the number one biologic medicine prescribed by rheumatologists. >> your news miss ameri-- your miss america is... miss new york. >> apparently she didn't think she should have won she was so shocked. >> miss new york crowned miss america last night. the 23-year-old beat out miss carolina who the camera thankfully panned away from now. and miss oklahoma who came in third. >> all of the pretty girls are from alabama. >> she move to do brooklyn in 2008. she is the 4th miss america from new york. the last winner from that stage, singer vanessa williams. >> she is done well hasn't she. >> there was scandal. >> there was photos. blocked that out of my mind. i have pictures up in my office. no. it's fine. >> let's talk about the experiment that is the anti judy experiment. for one year she decided to forego all beauty treatments and beauty products. >> no makeup? >> she did away with all new clothes. didn't buy a single thing of new clothes. she didn't get a salon haircut. she went to her husband's bash he shall for haircuts. she didn't wear any jewelry or nail polish. >> it was a study in vanity she says. it did change her. she said this. i noticed a change in my innervous. she had become softer and less judgmental that innervous of me and the women around me. bad hair days meant nothing to me. face without makeup, said face not a hideous problem. >> made her less judgmental than the women around here. i am for it. this is a great problem in any society of women judging one another on their appearance. >> in a hard way. >> she was cute to begin with. the one time i took a picture of alley one time without makeup. here she is. >> i do look good there. >> i think she looks cute. >> that's not me fully but it is scary. you do become a little addicted to your hair products and your hair color and your tanning, self tanning all that stuff. i admire her. james said i think many men like the natural look. makeup makes women look fake kind of false advertising. you wake up the next morning men are like, wow. how are you and what did you do with my girlfriend? >> it is kind of hard to disagree with that actually. >> i am one of those rare women who never wore makeup. image the money i have saved over my lifetime. bonnie lives in northern new england. i am on your side. >> my wife never wears makeup or has her hair done professionally. i am happy with her beauty. >> thanks, john. >> these are all wonderful things. >> okay. (laughter) >> let's go to rick outside. >> i think this is good. you should try more of these experiments. >> i like it. i like it. >> you not going to want to put on anything other than a lot of clothes. take a look at the maps. today's highs across the areas southwest. very cold. still in the 40s in phoenix. it cannot happen where you have a few days in a row where your high temperatures are only in the 40s. move forward look what happens tonight. the temperatures really plummet again. everybody i have been hearing on twitter p and facebook are saying it's the coldest they have ever experienced. get ready you have two or three nights of cold temperatures. it's wednesday when we start to see a turnaround. look at what it is like across the rest of the country. cold aur across the rockies. a couple hours ago 63 at cleveland now you are at 48. changing the temperatures very quickly. move forward you can see that pink color there. that is brutally cold arctic air across canada. move forward we see by tuesday things warm up a tiny bit across parts of the west. go toward thursday that pink gets much closer toward the great lakes and toward the northeast. i think over the next two weeks we will deal with a couple of bouts of the air getting in towards great lakes an the northeast. get ready. winter is going to return by the time we get to around thursday for many people across the northeast it will be a big slap in the face. forecast quickly across the northeast. a nice one for the most part. little bit of cloud cover. we will see temperatures in to the 50s and a little bit of fog as well. down toward the southeast a nice day again in florida. we will have the rainshowers heavy at times and flooding in the mississippi river valley. cold in oklahoma only 35 in oklahoma city. into the northern plains getting into the single digits across much of the dakotas. 20 north plat 20 in kansas city. clear but cold almost everybody. tonight for the golden globes there won't be any of the gowns lots of makeup and probably lots of coats. >> we don't like that. >> thanks so much, rick. get to the headlines right now. we have a look right now at the streets of paris, france. hundreds of thousands of people legal liedzing same-sex marriage. police are expecting hundreds of thousan -- thousands of people to march toward the eiffel tower closing subway stations for hourses. the largest demonstration in france in decades. >> a man is in critical condition after he was shot down by a policeman inside of a movie theater. the man was reportedly fighting with his girlfriend at a mall and threatened her with a gun. he ducked into the theater to hide so the police shut down the movie and confronted the suspect inside. >> they checked the back door but it was locked. they didn't talk to us. i knew that wasn't a good sign. all of a sudden i heard two shots, i went to the floor and went out at the back of the theater. we saw police running around. >> that's terrifying. police say the man grabbed his gun when they confronted him and the officer shot him. he is expected to survive. no one else was injured. the italian cote guard releasing brand new video from the costa concordia disaster. it was one year ago today. the terrifying moment the ship rolled over on its side. >> we heard kind of a soft dull sound coming from behind us. then the whole room started leaning over to the side. wine glasses wine bottles fell off the table, the tv started sliding off the cabinets. >> what did you think was hap sng>> i asked maybe it's a really big wave. he said, i don't think so. >> the newlyweds made it to the life boat because the ship was leaning over so severely the boat was banging og into the ship they could not get down on it. they got off by tieing not on ropes and repelling down the side of the cruise liner. >> let's talk nfl playoffs. the ravens broncos game, what a fantastic finish. it will be an instant classic. what an ending. down 7 with under a minute to go. ravens quarterback hits jones with a 70 yard hail mary to tie the score. they go into over time. in over time payton manning forces this pass intercepted by baltimore. 6 plays later no you in double over time the ravens pick a game winning 47 yard field goal. here goes. goes through. denver is stunned. 38-35. then san francisco 49ers qb led them to a 35-41 victory over the green bay packers. the quarterback having a great year. rushed himself for 181 yards and two touchdowns. two more games today. >> those are your headlines in sports. >> wow. speaking of football at least one legendary linebacker had a brain disease caused by too many hits to the head. is that what led to his suicide? the nation's top concussion expert the former football play ir joining us next. >> what month is the next month to buy luggage. it may not be what you think. 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>> they are dramatically lower than it was a few years ago. we were in a fight whether it actually existed and was a real disease. now with an admission it is real and funding to the nh foundation we were in bethesda meeting how to figure out how to best attack this disease we have the best minds in the country considering something so important. pte is completely preventable. you don't get hit had the head up won't get this devastating disease. especially with so many children playing contact sports. >> football is a contact sport. for adults what's the solution? chances are you are going to get hit in the head. >> correct. conform -- informed consent. if you get hit in the head you might have bad outcomes. you are allowed to do dangerous jobs as long as you know you have informed consent like policemen like military. if you are under 18 years old you can't give informed consent and knowing the sgam just as dangerous if not more dangerous for children what do we do about youth football? 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♪ you're the key to my peace of mind ♪ ♪ you make me feel ♪ you make me feel ♪ you make me feel >> and aretha sang for every one of us. ♪ the moment i wake up before i put on my makeup ♪ i say a little prayer for you ♪ ♪ wondering which dress i'm going to wear now ♪ ♪ i say a little prayer for you ♪ ♪ forever and ever you stay in my heart andly live you ♪ ♪ >> people across america have been playing aretha franklin's music celebrating her life, incredible life and career. and singing along to their favorites. this is one of mine right now, and i love this song so much because of the beginning. she's playing the piano her. it's her cover of sam cook's "you send me". ♪ darling you send me ♪ darling you send me ♪ darling you send me ♪ honest you do, honey ♪ you send me ♪ darling you thrill me ♪ >> my gosh. ♪ baby you thrill me honest you honest you do ♪ >> this is very personal for me. one of the greatest blessings of the work that i do is that i get a chance to meet and have conversations with some really incredible people. more than once i've met a hero of mine, but nothing compared to getting to know aretha franklin. miss franklin. you know, a lot of ways her music, her voice has been the sound track of my life. maybe yours too. for as long as i can remember, i've been listening to -- there we are at her birthday party. i have been listening to and loving aretha. in my house, at picnics, cookouts, parties, in the car, on the plane. wherever i could listen to her. and the people who work on this show have heard me sing her songs more than a few times even in the commercial breaks here in the studio. they have to listen to me. but sitting down across from her just a few years ago, i was just about speechless. ♪ what you want baby i got it ♪ what you need you know i got it ♪ ♪ all i'm asking -- >> i could go to heaven right now. >> don't do that. >> her whole life aretha franklin raised her incredible voice in song, but she also raised her voice to fight for justice. >> do you think your songs were the anthem to civil rights, to the civil rights music. >> well, respect was a mantra for the civil rights movement. >> do you feel we're moving forward fast enough? >> i think we have come a very, very long way. we've come to the forefront in many fields. of course entertainment, sports and so on, but we still have a long way to go. >> and in a never-before-seen interview aretha franklin talked about the early days of the civil rights movement and dr. martin luther king junior. >> when dr. king came out in the early days of selma and rosa parks, i told him that i wanted to go out and travel with him and sing for him. because i had sung for my dad, and i'd like to sing for dr. king and what he's trying to do here. i appreciated what she was trying to do, bring people together. or certainly get parity in some way and lighten up the discrimination and give people a chance to make a dollar. so my dad said if that was what i wanted to do, it was okay. >> you can see there, this is shot fairly recently. i'm not exactly sure of the date, but she was thin there, dealing with what she was dealing with. you're going to hear much more from that exclusive interview throughout the show tonight. make sure you stick with us. we've got a lot of people here to celebrate. some of her closest friends and colleagues, and i want to bring in one of them now, and that is another legend, gladdys knight. how are you? >> i'm fine. how are you? >> i'm okay. i want to do this to honor her. i'm so glad you're here. you're the baddest. she's called the queen of soul. and a voice like hers, i love her song writing. what made her the queen of soul to you? >> it was everything. you have to understand that she was the breaker. she was the person that went out front, stepped on out there and did what she was supposed to do, and set the pace for the rest of us as far as workmanship and all that kind of stuff, and i was 12 when i first heard her sing. you know? and my mom was part of the gospel singer and my aunt and all that, and she came home raving about this little girl franklin's little girl that sang "never grow old". she said baby, you got to hear this lady sing, and from there on out, i just had an ear for her music. she touches you somewhere. it's not just lyrics and melody. you know? it's a life in the songs and the stories that she tells through this music. and that's what i learned how to do. >> yeah. >> in the beginning in. >> well, she was the original reary. i remember that was her nickname. now the folks are like what? i'm talking about the riri. >> yep. >> she said this morning she the standard for every lady in the industry to rise to. you looked up to her. >> i felt like she really did. she had a voice that was god-given, and she used it to the best of her ability and to all kinds of heights. you know what? with aretha, she didn't really know what she had. she was kind of shy. i know you met her before. she was kind of laid back and quiet. when we told her hey, ri, so and so and so and so j she was very chilled about it. that's a good thing. she's just put it all into music. >> always cool, calm, and collected. and you know what i used to say? i loved watching her perform, but one of the best parts of watching her perform live was when she first comes on to the stage and sits and does her sound check. she says you got to do this level this week. you got to do this with this microphone, and then you get it together. and when she starts you're like oh, yeah. there we go. >> uh-huh. she was picky, all right. very picky. >> we all remember her -- >> things had to be just so. >> we remember her saying think, think about what you're trying to do to me, especially when she's pushing around guys in the blue's brother movie. she's demanding respect as a woman, as a black woman. >> absolutely. absolutely. and you know what? i don't think she really understood the power of who she was and the music that she was doing, because aretha, to me, was kind of shy. so to speak. and i know people probably never have seen that side of her, but i got a chance to see her so much, and every time i got a chance to go see her, i went to see her. i remember she was playing a breakfast show in atlantic city. that was 4:00 a.m. in the morning. aretha came out. it wasn't 4:00 a.m. it wasn't 5:00 a.m., but she finally came out and said i'm sleepy. we did crazy things like that. you know? always lifting up and supporting each other. we loved her to death. >> we used to joke about her because she loved her purse, and it was never far, and that's where all the money was because she wanted to be paid in cash. that purse was never out of her eye line. >> i know. >> right? she loved it. we've been talking about the impact of strong black women on the cover of magazines, but i want everybody to take a look at this. this is aretha franklin on the cover of "time" in 1968. that is a trail blazer. right? >> yes. yes, it is. definitely a trail blazer, and we were just so proud of her, because you know what? something about that spirit and something about that voice. you know, it was very difficult to what they called cross over in those days. you know? they wanted to keep us right in the r&b section because we were african american, and those kind of things. aretha didn't care. she did her music, but her music had some magic to it, because it just went and swept everybody. i don't care what color you were or where you lived or anything like that. that's why she became the icon that she became, because she broke down those barriers. you know? and we all marched with dr. king, and that kind of thing. we had that in common as well. when we come together to get something done, it gets something done when we're all on the same page. and that's where we were with our music and our performances. we used to sing for his campaigns when he was running for things, and so forth and so on. and there we were, tanding -- standing together. i really respect that >> yeah. >> and i just -- i just really respect that. >> i didn't know it then but now i'm so grateful that my parents would take me to concerts to see when i was young, to see people like aretha franklin and michael jackson and you know. i saw you in the 1970s when we were on vacation at the astrodome. >> oh, my goodness. >> yes. thank you. >> yes. >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> it's been a wonderful journey. >> be well and next time we talk, let's hope it's for something that's not sad but i'm glad we're here to celebrate her life. thank you. >> i am too. thank you for having me and allowing me to opportunity to say well done, my sister. safe journey home, and i know you're going to be in the heavenly choir, and i hope to join you when i come if i make it. >> oh, you'll make it in, but let's hope it won't be for a long, long time. thank you so much. >> thank you. love you. >> you as well. i want to bring in another of aretha's dearest friends. that is smokey robinson. he joins us on the phone. how you doing, smokey? >> i'm cool. how are you? >> i'm all right. >> you said this morning that aretha franklin was your longest friend. you grew up together. talk to me about that. >> she was my longest friend. i've known aretha since i was eight years old. and everybody else from our neighborhood from our immediate click, our immediate friends and all kids that we grew up with, they're all gone. you know? and she and i used to talk and say we're the last two. but our father chose to call her, and so she had to go. here we are. >> yeah. i want to play something for you. this is aretha franklin from a never before seen interview with from an upcoming cnn original series. take look and we'll and talk about. >> our first neighborhood in detroit was on what's called the north end of detroit, and we stayed right on the corner of oakland which was around the corner from my oldest and dearest friend, smokey robinson. we were sand box friends. and i used to give them little tips before they became many miracles. >> that interview was done in september of 2017. talk to me about aretha and the church in detroit in the early days. when did you first hear her sing? >> the first day that i met them. her brother, cecil was one of my aces. we were together all the time as kids and adults. it was like the franklin family was one of my other families. you know what i mean? and so when the first day i met her brother, a guy who lived next door to them named richard ross. we all played together. we were kids. and like i said, i was eight years old, and richard comes around and he's got this new guy with him who was cecil. they just moved to detroit from buffalo, new york. we went around to see their new house. we went in and we were in there, and aretha grew up on boston boulevard in detroit. there were two streets in the hood. i mean in the hood. boston boulevard and arden park. and it was like they were so out of place, because these two streets were right in the center of the hood and they were plush and they had mansions, and everything was green and flowers and so on and so forthright in the middle of the hood. so i lived on belmont. aretha lived on boston boulevard, which was one of these streets. we go to the house, and we're in there. it's like a mansion. you know? it's like all this stuff is in there. we growing up did not have privy to seeing because none of us had anything like that, but the reverend franklin was one of the most popular ministers in the country, so that's how they lived, but they didn't act that way. >> right. >> they were just right down front down people. they didn't act like that. we were all really good friends. we go into the house and we're walking around, and i hear a piano being played and somebody singing in a little voice from another room. okay? so i being curious about music always all my life, i go to see what's happening. and i open this door, and here's little aretha franklin, about five or six years old, sitting at the piano singing. like she sings now. that was my first sight of her, my first introduction to her. >> i wonder if you ever thought that you would be performing a duet with her, because you did on soul train back in 1979 singing one of your songs. let's look at this. ♪ ♪ >> we should have been a duo. >> it's not too late. ♪ i did you wrong ♪ my heart went out to play but in the game i lost you ♪ >> oh, smokey. i mean, that moment between you and her when she said you should have been a duo. i mean, that's everything. >> well, you know, aretha was my baby. we were just cool all of our lives, and we stayed in contact, and we talked all the time, and up until she was no longer able to do that a few weeks ago. >> yeah. >> and i'm going to miss her, man. like i said, aretha was my baby, my home girl. you know what i mean? and as far as our close friends in our neighborhood and so on, we were the last two. >> you got a favorite aretha song? >> pardon me? >> do you have a favorite aretha song? >> no, man. >> all of them? >> absolutely, because aretha could sing anything. i mean, anything from -- as you saw on the grammy's that time. anything from opera to blue's. everything inbetween. jazz, rock, whatever it was. aretha could sing the phone book, brother. >> there you go. >> yeah. >> it's a good way to leave it. thank you, sir, i appreciate it. i'm so sorry for your loss. >> oh, man, well, you know what? but i'm celebrating her life, man. when we were kids growing up, man, all we used to talk about -- everybody in the neighborhood, we grew up in a neighborhood diana ross was in the neighborhood, the four tops lived a couple blocks over. the temptations. we grew up in that neighborhood. you know what i mean? we were all hoping to do this, and some of us were -- there's some people that i can't even name, some groups and people like that who could really, really, really sing who didn't get that break and that chance. including you and aretha franklin brought a lot of joy to a lot of people. thank you, smokey. >> thank you, don. >> when we come back, congressman says aretha inspired everyone in the movement to keep the faith. we'll talk to him next. ♪ ♪ ♪ raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens ♪ ♪ bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens ♪ ♪ brown paper packages tied up with strings ♪ ♪ these are a few of my favorite things ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ these are a few of my favorite things ♪ introducing e*trade personalized investments professionally managed portfolios customized to help meet your financial goals. you'll know what you're invested in and how it's performing. so you can spend more time floating about on your inflatable swan. 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>> we must pay respect to this wonderful t beautiful soul. she inspired generation. and i think her music will inspire generation yet unborn. she was so gifted. she could sing in so many different ways. and people around the world would tune in to hear her. hear the words. be moved by her spirit, by her action. i saw her almost two years ago at a portrait gallery in washington d.c. and she was in good spirit. and i saw her down there in the inauguration of president barack obama. and i saw her in new york city. and she was always asking about people in the movement. where are they, what are they doing, john. i love aretha. without aretha franklin and her music, i don't know where we would be as a nation and as a people. >> well, congressman, we'll end on that. and it is assad day, but it's a day to celebrate her legacy, the wonderful memories that she leaves behind. the music portfolio. everything. how she inspired young up and coming artists and how she inspired the world. i appreciate you joining us. thank you so much. >> thank you, sir. >> and when we come back, remembering aretha franklin with those who new her be-- knew her best, her family pays tribute to the queen of soul aretha franklin. the new sleep number 360 smart bed is on sale now, from $899, during sleep number's 'biggest sale of the year'. it senses your movement, and automatically adjusts to keep you both comfortable. it even helps with this. so you wake up ready to put your pedal to the metal. and now, all beds are on sale. save 50% on the new sleep number 360 limited edition smart bed. plus 24-month financing on all beds. only for a limited time. sleep number. proven, quality sleep. sfx: [cell phone dialing] no. no, no, no, no, no. cancel. cancel. please. aaagh! being in the know is a good thing. that's why discover will alert you if your social security number is found on any one of thousands of risky sites. happy anniversary dinner, darlin'. can this much love be cleaned by a little bit of dawn ultra? 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>> i'm good, don. and the thing about it, so emotional and understanding what she meant to you. i completely get that because i remember her reaching out to me one day and having this icon, this legend tell me she enjoyed what i did and my shows and it was very moving to me. i remember she was very ill a couple of years ago i reached out to her and wanted to make her voice and have a good time on the phone. so it's a difficult time for everybody who loved and cared about her. but it's also a celebration. because i'm so grateful, as you are, that we got to be on the planet at the same time as she did. >> yeah. now not only got to be on the planet but develop a friendship with her. and that means a world, when someone like aretha franklin reaches out to you and says she is proud of you and what you are doing, for someone like me that meant the world to me. i didn't know what to make of it at the time. >> i get it. that's the kinship. i totally feel the emotion you have. i get t it's how our parents and your parents loved and appreciated her so much. and now for their children to get that call. she invited me to things and spent a lot of time she's wonderful. >> she inspired a lot of people. what does she mean to you? what was the inspiration for you, tyler? >> i'll tell you, aretha music meant would let me know if we had a good time in the house this weekend. it would tell me my mother's move when i was coming home from school. if i heard "natural women "or respect there was trouble in the house. so her music represented certain things for me. and last time i heard her perform was kennedy honors, brought the house down to the feet and almost to our knees, to bow to the queen. and president obama was sitting in the box, and turned to me, that's why she's the queen of soul, that voice, and i'm grateful she used that voice to bring us together to bring us through assassinations and inaugurations and all kinds of celebrations. aretha's life is going to live on in the music and just the memories that we have of her. she's been wonderful. >> that's why she's the queen of soul. that's the statement you released earlier to cnn and the way she uses that voice. i thought about that today. she used her voice to sing us through good times and bad, from assassinations and celebrations in civil rights to women's rights. i wish more people would use their voice to up lift rather than tear down. that is powerful. >> but true. but true. especially in this day. and i look at where we are right now, with all of these legends, you have prince, the prince is gone, michael jackson the king is gone, whitney, the princess is gone. now the queen of soul is gone. i wonder what's next. you know, where are these voices that are going to come up that are going to inspire us and encourage us and galvanize and bring us together and not divide us. it's important we look for those voices and support them and stands with them. because aretha left us a blueprint on how to do that and we should definitely pay attention to it. >> very simply, tyler. thank you. >> yes, my friend. thank you for having me. i appreciate it. >> thank you for helping us celebrate her life. tyler perry. now i want to bring in van franklin, aretha nephew. hi, vaughn. >> how are you doing? >> my deepest condolences to you and your family. how are you doing? >> thank you very much. >> i don't want to linger on it, but just the last couple of months. it's been tough for, obviously, for her and her family. what has this been like? >> it has. it's been very difficult on the family as a whole. you know, it's amazing how you can see a woman such as my aunty just evolve. she was surrounded by a lot of love. the family was there. and just seeing her transition from where she was to, you know, where she was when i last saw her this past week was breath taking. you can't put words on just broke your heart. when you go in and you have a chance to really sit down and talk to her and really, really feel the love that she had for everyone in the room, my cousin sabrina, and my brothers and cousins and others that were in the room, it's difficult to deal with, especially right now. and then her kids, you know, her boys. i know that everyone is praying for the queen of soul, my aunt, but please pray for her, her kids too, her boys. >> and her music, your aunt's music is the literally the soundtrack to people's lives. iconic songs that will live on for generations. but what about your family, did she sing and play for you at home? >> well, she did. there was one time that we all remember. we were in the ham toms with her for one summer because she enjoyed keeping family around her. and it was right around the time that luther van dros had passed away. and we woke up in the morning and getting ready to start our day and heard something in the house hand thought the radio was on. so we stuck our heads out of the rooms to see what was going on. and we went downstairs and she was downstairs singing and just hearing they are voice in the residence. and then when you walk down and you saw her, just even now it makes the hair on my arms stand up and just the powerful voice that she had and how much she enjoyed, you know, the singing. it was just amazing just to experience that. >> the entire world is thinking about your family, vaughn franklin. >> thank you. >> and we appreciate you joining us here on cnn. you take care. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> absolutely. when we come back, mow town remembers one of its own, the one and only barry gourdgordy j me next. ♪ the day that i spend with you ♪ ♪ don't let it go . hawaii is the first state in the u.s. to have 100% renewable energy goal. we're a very small electric utility. but, if we don't make this move we're going to have changes in our environment, and have a negative impact to hawaii's economy. ♪ verizon provided us a solution using smart sensors on their network that lets us collect near real time data on our power grid. 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[both laugh] so, we're good? what? oh, you still have prediabetes. big time. >> hi, don. >> you were friends with aretha for decades. >> the first time i met her, i was 14 years old. i was friends with someone who knew her children, her sons and they brought me to this brown stone on 88th street between madison and 5th avenue and we were in the living room and we were eating chips and drinking pop as aretha would call it, listening to records. and all of a sudden aretha walked in from the kitchen and she had on her apron and my jaw dropped and i was like, oh, my god, that's aretha franklin. and she gave us all the once over when she would do when she first meets you. who are you, why are you in my house and why are you with my sons? that was actually the first time i met her and decades later i would end up working for her. >> so you got the okay. speaking of working for her, you were the creative force behind the one lord, one faith, one baptism cover. >> album cover. a you say it's your all-time favorite shoot? >> yeah, we did the recording at new bethel baptist church. jesse jackson spoke on the record, orator. clive said to me, what would you do with the album cover? and i wanted to use norman parkinson who was the royal photographer, and he lived in barbados and he was very tall, stately british man. and we all flew into detroit and, you know, we had our friend cooper do the makeup. that was one ever her favorite makeup artists. we shot the album cover in new bethel baptist. and so he was setting up the shot and he pulled out this, like, table like for a school table. and it was narrow. and he pulled it to frame his shot with the new one lord, one faith, one baptism cross in the background. all right, aretha, jump up on the table. i'm sitting there on the side thinking to myself, she's never going to do that. what are you doing? and jump to it, she was on the table and we got that cover shot. >> talk to us about the significance that she -- her significance to black women. >> i don't think you can even compare it. i mean, respect is sort of like our anthem, and aretha was very much into civil rights and very much into women's rights. and she was a perfectionist and, of course, if you're a man that's okay, you're a perfectionist. but if you're a woman, it's often seen as something else. aretha was smart as a whip, you know? she was really good with -- she knew what she wanted and she would just go after it. but she was a perfectionist. >> what are you going to remember most? >> i have so many memories of her. her sister carolyn and i got very, very close because aretha wouldn't travel anywhere so when i was working for her at arista, i would have to go into detroit all of the time. so it just got to the point where she said, why don't you just stay here? because she had like five bedrooms. >> he you started staying at her house. there's a story, she was afraid of flying. did you enroll her in flight school? >> we enrolled her in delta's fearless flying classes. so she went through, she went through the whole thing. and graduated and then got on the plane to go on the tarmac and go down the runway. and she just said, you know, trace, i can't do this. and she took the seat belt off, got up and the pilot had to turn around and come back. >> yeah. if she didn't want to do it -- >> she was not going to fly. >> tracy, thank you. >> absolutely. thank you so much. >> i'm so sorry. i'm so sorry. thank you so much. we'll be right back. ♪ rock of ages ♪ ♪ let me, let me, let me, let me hide ♪ ♪ i'm a small business, but i have... big dreams... and big plans. so how do i make the efforts of 8 employees... feel like 50? how can i share new plans virtually? how can i download an e-file? virtual tours? zip-file? really big files? in seconds, not minutes... just like that. like everything... the answer is simple. i'll do what i've always done... dream more, dream faster, and above all... now,

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