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seems irrational, but before you remove it, you need to understand why it might have been put there and that applies in other government departments. don t immediately rush to change things before understanding why they were there. as you say, while i was chancellor of the duchy of lancaster i became increasingly aware of the need for change and then as minister for the cabinet office i sought quickly to familiarise myself with those aspects of the operation of cabinet office that i had not been directly responsible for beforehand and became even more seized of the need for change in how it went. you became even more seized of the need for change in how it went. for change in how it went. you are not suggesting for change in how it went. you are not suggesting that for change in how it went. you are not suggesting that this not suggesting that this functionality if revealed in the heart of a government department is something that should not be addressed? something th

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rishi sunak, now prime minister, then chancellor, had launched the eat out to help out scheme to get people back into restaurants and pubs over that first summer of covid in 2020. but he had not consulted them before launching that. clearly, they made it clear, they took something of a dim view of that. that was last week, that was the science, this week we are back with the politicians. today, starting this morning with sadiq khan, mayor of london, and we also have mayors from the north west of england, steve rotherham, liverpool, greater manchester, andy burnham, couple of elements there, remember, there were restrictions brought in on a hot dry basis initially in the autumn of 2020 to effectively try to play wacko mole as hotspots popped up. that then gave way to a more structured tiers system which was supposed to solve some of the regularities and standardise the procedure across the country. i suspect we will get into a lot of that, plus other questions like sadiq khan

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if we look at the bottom of the page, there is an e mail dated the 8th of march, which is a sunday, again from someone in your office to claire brunton, a request to attend the cobra that was going to happen the cobra that was going to happen the next monday. a very similar request, can the mayor come to the cobra, given the recent impact? this time, we can see that the same response is received, if we can go up response is received, if we can go up to the top of that page, there is a response on the monday morning at 950 am. no they may isn t required for the pm has asked for a separate meeting with cabinet ministers. let s just look at a separate set of internal e mails, to show how that decision was reached. if we look at the next item, we see the same e mailfrom your member the next item, we see the same e mail from your member of staff. and then if we look up the page, claire brunton says that she assumes the answer is no again. and then we see the e mailfrom the answer

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prime minister. there are rules and boundaries set to those roles by the code and their employment. but they are very much code and their employment. but they are very much not code and their employment. but they are very much not civil code and their employment. but they are very much not civil servants, - are very much not civil servants, therefore they are answerable only to the minister who appoints them, governed by or constrained by their special advisers code to which they are subject? special advisers code to which they are subject? are sub ect? correct. formally, the prime are subject? correct. formally, the prime minister are subject? correct. formally, the prime minister appoints are subject? correct. formally, the prime minister appoints all - are subject? correct. formally, the prime minister appoints all special| prime minister appoints all special advisers, even those who are attached to ministers and often move with them. so their personal affiliatio

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public confidence, what can be done about travel restrictions and proportionality, the seriousness of the crisis by the 4th of february doesn t appear to be reflected in that debate. i doesn t appear to be reflected in that debate- that debate. i think it is a seriousness that debate. i think it is a seriousness of that debate. i think it is a seriousness of a - that debate. i think it is a seriousness of a crisis - that debate. i think it is a | seriousness of a crisis that that debate. i think it is a i seriousness of a crisis that it became but it wasn t apparent at that time. there had been a cabinet meeting on the 31st of january in which, if i remember correctly, the chief medical officer as well as a health secretary and the health secretary, and at that time the advice was the probability of the worst case, reasonable worst case was about io%. and so what you see here is a good summary of a brief discussion. the purpose of the meeting was a bilateral about the ma

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