well, see? see the way he is acting? that must mean there is something to it, because he is so personal and so attacking on this particular issue. and, you know, again, i just this would have been the opportunity for the president to be statesman like in this, and he did have some legitimate questions. why was the whistle-blower report released today? normally, i have to tell you, as the chairman who got whistle-blower reports, i would never release the report until it was fully vetted and we had a chance to fully review it and make sure the information was accurate, and then we still might not release the report. so i want the turn now before we go to your series declassified: untold stories of american spies. i know you have been working on this for a long time. it s been something you ve put your heart into. the first episode looks at a plot to blow up the new york city subway system on the anniversary of 9/11. here is a clip preview for our viewers. while we weren t loving
did you feel that at the end of the day that he gave you real answers? that he said what he believed? that he was honest? i think he s in a lot of pain tonight, actually, and throughout all of this episode. this is someone who had a distinguished nearly 40-year career as a s.e.a.l. and a retired admiral of the united states navy, and i think he knows better, frankly, and i think he s in a lot of pain. according to the complaint which obviously discussed today at length, people in the white house appeared to try to cover up the president s conversation with zelensky, right? we just heard the crucial parts of that, right? they knew about it, and knew it was a problem and took it off the system where it could be seen and put it on another system. do you consider that a crime? i consider it a crime to solicit a foreign country s interference in our election, and i think the whistle-blower complaint indicated that that
cautiously optimistic, i guess we ll take that as as good as it can be right now. i want to read one other thing for you, congress mid-caman bec this is very important. according to white house officials i spoke with, this was the whistle-blower, this is not the first time, in quotes, under this administration that a presidential transcript was placed under the codeword-level system solely for the purpose of protecting politically sensitive rather than national security sensitive information. that would mean that there are other times that transcripts were put there, other times, it would appear. are you trying to get those? do you have any idea how many? what they re involved with? are you going to get them? it would be nice to get them and i don t know if we ll get them, but i think the important thing is for us to put this in a broader context. this is not an isolated incident. people shouldn t look at the phone conversation itself as the alpha and omega of this affair because it
such transcripts are typically stored and why instead the transcript was loaded into a separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature and the person says this was done multiple times. out front now chief political analyst gloria borger, david gregory, and former director of the national intelligence robert lit and ann millgrim. ann, you re with me. nancy pelosi says it was a cover-up. it was a cover-up. does this look like a cover-up to you? it does. one of the things that jumped out when i read the complaint. we knew a bunch of the other pieces and we did not know there was this effort to conceal the information and the reason i think it is so particularly damning is there is a process where the memos go, they actually went out of the way to take it out of the process and put it in another computer where it was more secretive and to me there s consciousness of guilt that the president did something
phone call, especially the official word-for-word transcript of the call that was produced as is customary by the white house situation room. this set of actions underscored to me that white house officials understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call. according to this whistleblower, two things then happened. first, white house lawyers directed officials to remove the electronic transcript from a computer system where these kinds of transcripts are typically housed. and two, the transcript was then loaded onto a separate system that is used to store highly classified information which this call was not. and then there s this stunning bit of information which could be a major tell as to where this investigation is headed. quote, according to white house officials i spoke with, this was not the first time under this administration that a presidential transcript was placed in this code word level system, that is a highly classified system, solely for the purpose of protectin