follows russian politics and what russian officials say in the nonclassified domain now. i used to do it in both domains and i don t think it is obvious what they re seeking to achieve in 2018. it might just be to keep sewing sowing division in society and amplifying those divisions that are already there and just that s it. and one very, you know, plausible hypothesis, theory we have to keep in mind is that putin and the kremlin said hey, we re not going to play in this election. it is too confusing to know who helps us and who doesn t. we will take a time here and then we will become complacent. we ll say, oh we solved this problem and we haven t. we ll say oh, there was no big russian thing and, of course, there was. and then the big fight in 2020, we won t be ready for again. yeah. that s the warning we need to take very seriously. michael mcfau, good to see you as always. thank you. thanks for having me. we ll be right back. verned t. commanded armies.
other words if courts were to agree with that analysis, that would preclude state attorneys general as well as federal prosecutors from rushing an indictment. so in other words the state attorney general is not bound by the rule but it would appear before a court and that court may say it doesn t matter who did it, it s not constitutional. that s exactly right. and the way prosecutors work is they re not looking for trap doors in policies. they are trying to figure out what the facts and evidence are and what the law allows so if a state attorney general looking at this on the merits concludes that the olc got it right that it would be unconstitutional to indict a sitting president. they won t go forward just because they re not bound by the olc opinion. on the other hand, if they go n good faith looked at the issues and concluded that they think the olc got it wrong and that it is constitutional to indict a sitting president, that s maybe a different story and maybe they
flashback friday to july 20, 2017. here is senator lindsey graham, a member of the judiciary committee at that time. this effort to basically marginalize and humiliate the attorney general is not going over well in the senate. if jeff sessionss is fired there will be holy hell to pay. that was lindsey graham then, this is lindsey graham yesterday. the attorney general doesn t have the confidence of the president and i think there will be serious discussions about a new attorney general. ooh, snap. graham is not the only republican coming out to voice doubts about jeff sessions. senator bob corker said last night, moves are being made to oust sessions after the midterm elections while senator richard shelby who was once sessions
story and someone is a source for it, it makes me wonder is it true and what would be the purpose of telling this story. i mean, it s got to be difficult to cultivate someone in vladimir putin s orbit, in his inner circle anyway. it is very difficult. you know, he s a spy himself. he understands these things. he takes precautions. there have been breaches before. and those people have been dealt with in horrible ways. and remember what is a source as somebody who used to read this stuff, and i need to be careful here, it could be somebody in the inner circle or somebody that interacts with the kremlin from time to time. right. we don t know exactly who they are talking about. a source doesn t necessarily mean a spy, it doesn t mean a cia asset. it could be somebody with whom there s a good relationship. exactly. a relationship. but to me the point is we re confused about putin s intentions for the 2018 election and on that i agree. you know, i m somebody that follows russ
your first reaction to allen weisselberg, the trump organization s cfo, being given this immunity? what s your first reaction as somebody who has been at the other side of the deal on this where you ve given people immunity. why? so typically you give immunity because you re hoping to provide information or testify against someone who is higher up on the food chain than they are. you don t use a big fish to eat a smaller fish. my read is that he gets immunity in the hope that he can provide help with someone else and cohen doesn t look like the big fish that sdny would be going after here. so the implication is there s a bigger fish, we re trying to figure out who that is. the obvious choice is donald trump sr. but it could be donald trump jr. or eric. those are the only possibilities of somebody who s more senior to weisselberg in the organization. would that be true? at least in the organizations. and it s important that when you give someone immunity and try to