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But i think the thing that was so attractive about that period was you werent locked in to one format, or one form, you know. it was just, everybody was doing everything. >> anthony: you introduced the entirely revolutionary notion that street art was in fact really art. >> freddy: the painting that we did on the street was coming from a place that pop-art came from as well. like popular culture, magazines, advertising, comics. and so some of the first people to buy paintings from me and jean-mi...

Music videos, some of the very first. >> anthony: your support and work with fab five freddy, i mean look at the soundtrack to the whole world, now. its hip-hop, that connection, that cross over there. you had to put considerable muscle and gravitas. >> chris: i talked to all these record company guys, and id say 98% of them told me it was a fad. >> debbie: its not going to last. >> chris: its going to go away in five years. >> anthony: and you recorded a song that was hugely -- ♪ >> debbie: w...

>> john: it feels pathetic, you know? >> anthony: this is incredible to me. >> john: what? >> anthony: you dont have shows. >> john: thats insane and its sick and is wrong and i dont even want to complain about it. you complain about it. >> anthony: im complaining about it. i am bitter. >> john: because im going to die one day, and theyre going to be worth a lot of money. so my paintings are going to be on the same tv station as wolf blitzer. >> anthony: oh, they are. yes. >> john: this is reall...

Why am i boo-hooing when i just been on tour from october to next october? im not stopping. >> anthony: youth? would you want to go through that again? or was that overrated? >> lydia: youth? dont i look good for my age? >> anthony: hell yeah. >> lydia: well, what do you want from me? >> anthony: was it worth -- >> lydia: the older i get, the better i taste, what can i say? its like wine, baby. >> anthony: did something special happen then, or am i just? is it all -- >> lydia: my whole life is s...

Shows. >> john: thats insane and its sick and is wrong and i dont even want to complain about it. you complain about it. >> anthony: im complaining about it. i am bitter. >> john: because im going to die one day, and theyre going to be worth a lot of money. so my paintings are going to be on the same tv station as wolf blitzer. >> anthony: oh, they are. yes. >> john: this is really a breakthrough for me. >> anthony: hes a big art fan. >> john: he is not. how i came to new york, i was kind of on ...

♪ >> anthony: what i think is under-celebrated about you guys in particular was your kindness. you were famously really, really supportive of the people you came up with your contemporaries, the people around you who werent doing as well. letting each other sleep on each others floor. >> debbie: there was nothing at stake. >> anthony: there was nothing at stake. i mean, this in a good way, you were raining hits from the beginning, i mean these are enduring songs that people are still listening...

Muscle and gravitas. >> chris: i talked to all these record company guys, and id say 98% of them told me it was a fad. >> debbie: its not going to last. >> chris: its going to go away in five years. >> anthony: and you recorded a song that was hugely -- ♪ >> debbie: well, i will say, you know like, im very proud of the fact that we created a format that didnt exist in rap until then, and that is that we wrote a song that had a rap in it. >> chris: yeah, those guys were sampling stuff. >> debbi...

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