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Try to be civil or as civil as he can be. but, look, its a debate. there is a front-runner. theres two front runners, really. theres going to be other people taking them on. theres going to be a lot of back and forth. i think theres three guys on that stage. martin omalley, lincoln chafe chaffee and webb. those three guys need to bring on the heat and try to figure out how to get attention. >> isnt that part of the debate, you try to tear the other guy down? >> listen, if im jim webb, you can be...