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He said that to the republicans, they made the calculation late last night at the 11th hour that they were losing independent voters. independent voters are generally moderate. they think things through. all voters think things through, but independent voters, they are moderate. they can go to either side. and independent voters, when they saw just how extreme these republicans were and willing to close down the government, they rejected it, and i think -- i agree with luke, thats what ultimatel...