communities. the root cause of this whatever we do here we will maintain the safety of everyone but that is a banaid. if we don t fix the problem, it will just go somewhere else. the root cause of the problem needs to be fixed and that is at the federal level. thank you, alan long. appreciate your time. back in washington, congressional investigators loosing their patience waiting for the delivery of the lois lerner e-mails. the irs s formal computer crash and the agencies commissioner is expected to handover recovered documents. mike emanual is live from washington. lawmakers are waiting for these
story. the computer crash and i didn t know i was going to hold on to them under the law which is a stretch but she could have said that. i think her actions belie her words. she seems to have been so concerned but yet they didn t do much and the hard drives were discarded. if you think this information is recoverable and you want to keep the information, there is a number of steps you can do to do that. it appears she did very few other than alert the it guys and he said call a second it expert. if you want to retrieve this information, calling a second it expert seems to be not the best. low on the list. and it seems there is no acknowledgment from the lawyer or lois lerner that she is a public employee and there are rules for public employees that
given some over 20,000 of them have been retrieved through other ways people she sent them to, et cetera. did lois lerner crash her own computer? well, we ll probably never know that. the drive is physically gone. what we do know from the discovery we have gotten from e-mails that we ve gotten from multiple sources is she broke some regulations. she broke some laws. she sent trying to get prosecution sent 1.1 million tax records over to the department of justice including inappropriate or actually illegal 6103 disclosures on behalf of conservative groups. in the end, i thought you had said listen, she clearly did this so that we couldn t have these records. so you can see this could have been a computer crash and it lost her stuff. we never, i don t think anyone has on my committee has ever said she deliberately crashed her computer. obviously she had 30 years of
other ways people she sent them to, et cetera. did lois lerner crash her own computer? well, we ll probably never know that. the drive is physically gone. what we do know from the discovery we have gotten from e-mails that we ve gotten from multiple sources is she broke some regulations. she broke some laws. she sent trying to get prosecution sent 1.1 million tax records over to the department of justice including inappropriate or actually illegal 6103 disclosures on behalf of conservative groups. in the end, i thought you had said listen, she clearly did this so that we couldn t have these records. so you can see this could have been a computer crash and it lost her stuff. we never, i don t think anyone has on my committee has ever said she deliberately crashed her computer. obviously she had 30 years of experience. she knew under the federal
e-mails and the other documents which were on there, which were quite important to her, but the truth is, this was one of those things that happened at the time she did everything she could to retrieve it. she reported it right away, and that s the story. that s all there is to it. but you understand why it seems suspicious, because this covers a period of time when the activity that was the original point of this investigation was going on, that is were the conservative groups being targeted by her unit at the irs? you say you think it s brazen to suggest she did this on purpose, but you do get the suspicion. well, i get it s convenient to create suspicion. actually the e-mails that are missing are way before the time in which congressman issa and his colleagues are suggesting that there was unfairness or anything like it at the irs. the truth is these e-mails pre-date most anything that s of any relevance to anybody, but you can see why it s convenient to say there s a computer c