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By a human interpreter, and so, so the whole idea that these machines shuffling symbols actually have meaning without human providers is itself delusional, and i think its really ironic that all these brilliant computer scientists of silicon valley have lost traffic the very essence of their science. the essence of their science was begun by turin and gertel and artificial intelligence refuted these original insights which necessarily make computers dependent on human inputs. mark: so if we unde...

By a human interpreter, and so, so the whole idea that these machines shuffling symbols actually have meaning without human providers is itself delusional, and i think its really ironic that all these brilliant computer scientists of silicon valley have lost traffic the very essence of their science. the essence of their science was begun by turin and gertel and artificial intelligence refuted these original insights which necessarily make computers dependent on human inputs. mark: so if we unde...

By a human interpreter, and so, so the whole idea that these machines shuffling symbols actually have meaning without human providers is itself delusional, and i think its really ironic that all these brilliant computer scientists of silicon valley have lost traffic the very essence of their science. the essence of their science was begun by turin and gertel and artificial intelligence refuted these original insights which necessarily make computers dependent on human inputs. mark: so if we unde...

Hard to keep track of all the different stands. so i wrote this article and it kind of disappeared in this haze in the week before the election when everybody thought hillary clinton was going to be president. and nobody really returned to it until -- except for the fact that behind the scenes there were other teams of computer scientists, other investigators, other people in the senate who were saying this data is suspicious. we need to interrogate the data more. and unfortunately its two years...

And it just -- i was kind of haunted by that story. and then, what happened was, after the election, a couple of democratic senators got the computer, got to the computer scientist and then brought him together with an investigator who was mentioned in my piece, dan jones, and said, can you guys get some computer scientists together and take some time and look at this again and see if you can reach any conclusions about it? and they did, and ultimately that came to me. so i got to take a look at...

For the atlantic. natasha bertrand is a staff writer for the atlantic. frank, starting with you, you wrote a great piece reflecting back two years ago. i remember that piece. everyones denying it. what did you learn, how was the story advanced in the two years since youve first wrote about it? >> well, its only margin ally a advanced. the lot of computer scientists were looking at this data in realtime and they said theres something raem funny here that this bank in moscow is communicating with ...

Shut down after the times contacted alpha banks representatives, but before the newspaper contacted trump. max, whos one of the computer scientists, an alias, says that shows a human interaction. that is pretty weird. >> i mean, what more evidence do you need? its very, very obvious. and its really razor here, the fact weve still not been able to rule out the idea that was a covert communication channel -- no one has come forth with a plausible explanation for why this is happening, why its one ...

Had been shut down after -- so "the new york times" is reporting on the story. they contact the alpha bank, moscow bank, the domain gets shut down after the times contacted alpha banks representatives, but before the newspaper contacted trump. max, whos one of the computer scientists, an alias, says that shows a human interaction. that is pretty weird. >> i mean, what more evidence do you need? its very, very obvious. and its really razor here, the fact weve still not been able to rule out the i...

Messaging function thats super simple and super quick. but if i ever wanted to communicate with somebody on my staff somewhere on the other end of the earth and i wanted it to not go as e-mail for some reason and they could log into our script system and we could use that system to talk back and forth no matter where you were. that sort of back and forth communication would leave the kind of trail that these computer scientists have found. >> yes. which is so say not very much. not so many finge...

Get at the core of it, unless youre great with words. that said, for me, the ah-ha moment in your reporting was some of the stuff about "the new york times" and what they chose to public and not before the election, but also what you explained about what this might have been. you go through a lot of the scenarios about some of the innocuous explanations for what this could have been. it could have been spam, internet noise, it could have been all these other things, none of which seemed to fit. ...