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Kind of voter issues. the fact that the commission hasnt been forthcoming about what it is up to and what specifically they do want to look at and what conclusions they are working toward, that has fed into the skepticism among democrats. it is not surprising that you are then seeing states resist this request and it is not clear what kind of authority the commission has to compel compliance. >> errol, does this give the president and, therefore, this commission and out? well, we were going to p...

Reach conclusions about any justice in a few weeks. maybe in a couple of years. it takes a while to see how they do. but what do you think about his debut? >> well, the thing that strikes me most about it is he is a wonderful writer. my job is finding good writers. i think he has only written three opinions so far. most of them have been about boring subjects like the regulation of debt collection agencies. buff you read them and they are marvelously clear and just a pleasure to read. but the cl...

Fraud data commission. is there enough proof to have the basis for the commission doing the investigative work it is doing? >> we dont have a great sense of what this commission is actually looking at. the scope of the investigation and conclusions it is working toward. we just dont have a great sense of what that is. thats what has made a lot of secretaries of state which are not sure. they dont know how it will be used if they hand it over. some request is a little overblown as kobach said he ...

Fraud commission that is really a voter suppression commission. why do i say that? because not just the head of it, but all the staff are experts in how to tamp down democratic turnout. that is what they have done for the last 15 years. literally that is how they spent their time. so now they will try to gather a lot of information from different states to try to further restrict democratic constituencies there voting. the interesting thing is 18 have resisted, and more are on the way in part be...

Chair is asking for? >> look. its not just about the requested data, before even meeting, by the way, so were not sure if this is chris kovac or the commission as a whole. you said it at the top, this is a follow-up to donald trumps baseless allegations of massive voter fraud across the country without a shred of evidence to support his claims. there is evidence to the contrary. numerous studies, numerous investigations that show that this voter fraud exists. yes, its extremely rare. uless very ...

Conclusions about what he may ultimately determine. but there are facts that should be alarming to us as a country that fall short of facts that would establish a basis for impeachment or prosecution. >> just to remind the viewer, sally yates was fired by president trump after she was instructed -- she actually instructed the department of justice not to defend the travel ban in court. whats your reaction to these comments? >> well, look, shes angry at donald trump. she despies him. he fired her...

Is done by top military intelligence and political figures in the white house all the time. >> martha: pete? >> juan is absolutely right. people are unmasked for very specific purposes. the question here is who is unmasked, why they were unmasked. its going to be very difficult, i think to reach a conclusion that the unmasking was done for illegal purposes. there maybe suspicions, but again, people will look at the same information in two groups may come to very different conclusions. one thing ...

Deciding whether or not crimes were committed that could be used for prosecution or for impeachment. surely thats not our bar. thats not the standard of conduct were looking for from our president or administration. it shouldnt just be whether you committed a felony or not, it should also be whether or not youre observing the kind of norms weve been talking about here today that are so essential to the fabric of the rule of law. so while i have told confidence in bob mueller and his ability to c...

So much so that they went ahead, the fbi, and went to the secret court, and got a warrant, a, basically a fisa warrant. we dont know the extent what they learned during interviews with him but carter page basically denied the dossier. quoted, mentioned in the dossier. he denied involvement in collusion or working with the russians. but the investigation is still ongoing in terms of the fbi and they have not reached any conclusions. the fbi guy wouldnt confirm thinking. there was always a concern...

Message that is a huge problem. they have to take care of that, first and foremost. secondly, there has to be relief on the individual market. these families get hammered that dont get the subsidiesubsidies dont get the help. they need a way out because the premiums are too high, and if they cant sell that to the middle class, they wont have a bill. >> but michelle, according to the budget office, in addition to the wonderful things this bill will do, it will make premiums go up. thats one of th...