then when they were turned down for said loan, it s possible that jared kushner advised the u.s. government to essentially apply the force of the american state against the qataris as a kind of punishment. this is like this is corruption not just sort of, you know, i m on getting a condo deal. this is losing sight of what american interests are on behalf of whoever is paying your paycheck. yeah. people will die because of it. 100%. it s corruption on an epic scale. and the scenario you just outlined with the qataris and jared kushner seems highly likely circumstantially in fact that that s exactly what happened. what we do know for sure as we sit here and we see all of these revelations over the course of the last year and a half, we know more than we used to. but we don t know very much compared to what robert mueller knows. and so the notion that the russia story, the interference, the active meshers in the election process are somehow unrelated. they re inexorably tied to this
caught up in all of this. or privatize part of it, all of that could be challenged, if he does anything bold, it could be challenged in court. that s interesting. let s talk about the epa administrator scott pruitt. he had a condo deal with an energy lobbyist, former new jersey governor chris christie, who for, you know, about a minute, was part of the trump transition, spoke out about this yesterday. here s what he said. this was a brutally unprofessional transition. this was a transition that didn t vet people for this type of judgment issues and i don t know how you survive this one. if he has to go? it is because he never should have been there in the first place. can scott pruitt survive this, do you think? i think it is important to remember that this isn t the first time that scott pruitt has made headlines that have been unflattering for the white house. he s one of the number of cabinet officials. this is the second negative stream of headlines we re seeing about h
of the folks that trump most regards or most highly regards in his cabinet. he is this crusader for the environment deregulation and client change deregulation this president wants. his star still shines in some corners of the white house but there is definitely a sense of frustration over there. jennifer dlouhy, thanks for being with me. thank you. john podesta is chair of hillary clinton s 2016 campaign and worked as counsellor to president obama and was chief of staff for president clinton. he just wrote an op-ed called enough is enough, scott pruitt needs to go. mr. podesta, you wrote that before the news about the condo deal. let s start with the condo deal and work backwards to what you wrote in the op-ed. do you think that scans ethically to you? of course not. i think the more we learn about it, the worse it looks. i accused him of being in bed with the lobbyists. now we know the lobbyists were
some have done things that were really untoward not in the public interest. pruitt exemplifies the you know, place where the beams cross. so are you surprised, not surprised by his ability to endure? tom price you know, had a sort of down fall over the amount of travel he was doing. pruitt has done lots of travel, racked up real costs first class, $120,000 to italy, $40,000 flight to morocco. the condo deal. he s at war with his own administration he s running. how has he been able to survive? the one thing you have to say about pruitt, from his days as attorney general, he s a man on a mission. and he s been effective at trying to tear down the protections that epa has put in place to protect the environment and to protect people s public health. and that was something i guess
so are you surprised, not surprised by his ability to endure? tom price you know, had a sort of down fall over the amount of travel he was doing. pruitt has done lots of travel, racked up real costs first class, $120,000 to italy, $40,000 flight to morocco. the condo deal. he s at war with his own administration he s running. how has he been able to survive? the one thing you have to say about pruitt, from his days as attorney general, he s a man on a mission. and he s been effective at trying to tear down the protections that epa has put in place to protect the environment and to protect people s public health. and that was something i guess that is approved of in the white house. so whether it s the now the new attempt to try to roll back auto emission standards which will