product from them. they missed their self-imposed deadline or released an app. it s supposed to be a social media company, and they re promising to offer quote non-woke entertainment to people. it s a multimedia platform that is, you know, there s a lot of skepticism about if it will actually rival some of these major caneompanies out there li facebook or disney. it s this idea that they can create this universe outside the traditional framework that we have been living with for decades. i mean, they re shooting higher than fox? they re shooting much higher than fox, and they re saying that they re going to be making billions of dollars in several years. whether that comes to fruition is unclear and we should also note that they disclosed yesterday that they are being investigating by the s.e.c. as well. so there s some questions that s.e.c. has for this company, and so, you know, there s a lot of peril, you know, moving forward that devin nunes is going to
what is likely on the other side of this. it s really important to underscore just how powerful being the chairman of the house ways and means committee is. traditionally, that is the most powerful chairmanship here in the house of representatives, so it s a very big deal, and something that the members of the house work for their entire career to get to that point. oliver makes an excellent point about where the power center is if you are republican and specifically a republican in the house. it s very interesting to see nunes find the power outside of government and outside of this incredibly powerful committee that he would be likely chairing if republicans take back the house in 2022. so that was certainly a lot of what we were hearing as this news kind of made its way through the halls here. we also heard, of course, from the former president himself, you talked about how nunes had been an ardent supporter of the former president. he was his primary attack dog during the russia pr
it s called money. i m sure that donald trump right now, congressman nunes makes $174,000 a year, reportedly. i m sure donald trump is offering him ten times that. i mean, of course, donald trump doesn t always pay his workers will he get it is the question? will this all come to fruition, but i would imagine so and i think power is behind it. nu nunes signals where power lies, and should republicans take control of congress, it s out there in conservative media. it s being close to trump and his move really signals that that is where the influencers, you know, so to speak in the conservative movement really are. he s given up the likely chair chairmanship of house ways and means, what s the reaction on capitol hill? reporter: there is a lot of surprise. you all just underlined money as
s.e.c. is looking into it, could be routine or a paperwork thing. don t know the answer but we know the former president was on another network with his former press secretary last night and doesn t like it. devon is a fantastic guy and if our side doesn t have a voice, you re going to end up with pure compies in. it s a disgrease what s going on. the disgrace part with the investigation and the like. again, we don t know what this is going to be and to your point devon nunes evolved to be a pea in the pod. this is probably going to be very conspiratorial. this is one investigation. a lot of investigations ongoing and we don t here about them all the time in the news so it could
also bleed over into childhood immunizations which we have spent in the public health community trying to close those loopholes, that could end up expanding. i think that what the new york city mayor is trying to do is the right thing, but we should have an opt-out for testing. dr. wen, as always, grateful for your time and insights. thanks, john. more details now on that just-ended phone call between presidents biden and putin. the call ended at 12:08 eastern time, two hours and one minute after it began. waiting with on more details about the actual substance of the camp we ll bring that to you as soon as we get it. up next for us, the curious case of devin nunes, the republican lawmaker in line for one of the most powerful jobs in washington but he s quitting to go to work for donald trump.