him, including michael cohen had with am i the parent company at the time of the national enquirer and proved out? i believe pretty thoroughly that there was an ongoing arrangement to pay hush money to catch and kill is the journalistic term that was used in the tabloid world. unflattering stories about trump catch and kill system, which you just brought up, orchestrated or involving david pecker, who was the former publisher of ami. how did it work? the concept is very basic . the enquirer forged an alliance with donald trump, david pecker and his consigliere e, uh, dylan howard. we re both heavily involved in this arrangement by which they would go out and seek unflattering and usually tawdry stories about donald trump, and they would pay money for the rights to those stories. ah which entailed essentially muzzling the people