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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20150714 00:04:00

security above the ground. ways of blocking cell phone signals. they had heavily armored vehicles to repulse any ground assault. they had three foot thick wolves so rockets could not break in. and through all of that el chapo found a way to burrow out under the noses of mexican authorities and get to this freedom tunnel off in the distance here. and go completely free. how did he manage to do that? well first of all he tapped into the expertise of his gang. which has been known to build all sorts of tunnels for transporting drugs and eluding enemies. they started beneath a shower. one of the few places where he wasn t being monitored by video 24 hours a day. he went 33 feet straight down and then when you look at the details of this tunnel you. see an engineering marvel. this thing was 5 1/2 feet tall his height. 2 1/2 feet wide. he could simply walk through it. it was reinforced with wood to keep track of all the structural integrity, whether or not ground

Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20150714 00:06:00

good yet. a difficult task. you are three stories down. though you have devices listening for digging. maybe fryingtrying to measure anomalies in the earth. they have to be really close before they can tell something is going on here. bigger question though is how come nobody noticed the dirt. we said this is a mile long here. think abut this.out this. a mile long. taking a lot of dirt away. in fact more than 200 big dumptrucks full. hard to imagine, for all that going on nobody out here seemed to have noticed anything. there was the construction site this tunnel emptied out into. perhaps they were masking it with some of that construction work. incredible this happen. tom, appreciate the reporting. thank you. it is an extraordinary development we learned the press conference in mexico city just got pushed back slightly. we ll keep an eye on it. bridge you any late developments from it. if there is news from there we have learned. our next guest, devote a major part of his career t

Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20150714 00:17:00

those people could get arrested and give up the information. most likely the tunnel was being built just for drugs. when you get to the bottom it s it s there is a lot of sandbags here. we have to crawl is amazing. 90 feet deep. lights still work. and the phones are this deep underground. all right. we probably already crossed into the united states. this part of the tunnel. you have to crouch down. looks like this is all really loose dirt. we haven t seen much loose dirt. just kind of assuming that they were in the process of carting some of this dirt out. because it is really the only area so far in the tunnel we have seen that has this kind of loose earth. so, look at this huge pile of it. you get a sense of the amount. sheer volume of earth they had to cart away put into the, either plastic bags put into

Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom Live 20150714 06:06:00

is it so much that he escaped or was allowed to escape? it seems impossible there wasn t a collusion of people inside this prison. this one i think relied less on bribing his way out and a lot more traditional means. you know this is somebody who really perfected the tunnelling system not only to bring drugs into the united states but that s how he evaded being captured for ten years is through tunnels. it s not surprising that you know in a second captivity in a maximum security prison he resorted to what he knew best and that is heavily engineered construction tunnel and popping up under the floor of his cell. it s quite amazing. mexico s interior minister says he was wearing a monitoring bracelet and was under 24-hour surveillance when he escaped. just stunning. it is early morning in vienna and in tehran.

Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20150714 00:09:00

originally intended to. this was one was very very precise. so now does he just go into hiding? do you think he tries to maintain an operational role? yeah you know he will start influencing thing immediately. the one thing is with this is that he had a year to plan not only as he is planning his escape through the tunnel. but also how he was going to avoid being arrested again and assume control. he has got a head start on everybody in the search for him now as well as ability to directly start influencing the cartel once again. there were a number of people who flipped, gave information, do you think he will look for retribution? i think down the road he will. right now, he is his main focus is his escape and his continued freedom. awe was a was it worth capturing him in 2014?

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