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October 8, 2021
Tweet about a lot. what should we be expecting the justice department to do? david is right. congress aint good at this oversight. what should the justice department be doing? >> they need to start putting people in jail. they need to bring charges and put people in jail and the specific issue of the subpoenas that, the way the criminal contempt work has to go to the full house first so at this point literally the house is the problem right now today, but as i think we all know, once it gets to ...
October 8, 2021
I would think -- i dont know if they will go so far as to declare these four individuals here in contempt which theoretically could involve the sergeant at arms of the house going out to arrest them. but i do hope and suspect that they may consult with the justice department and seek to have justice help them enforce these subpoenas. these are official subpoenas of the u.s. congress. and they should mean something. >> and joyce, i also want to ask you about the senate judiciary committee which h...
October 8, 2021
It is meaningless. so they can find themselves in contempt. and anderson, again, this is where the house has failed to get itself in order, to prepare for this. there are remedies for this. there are housekeeping things they can do and make these subpoenas through their inherent contempt powers have some meaning. >> why wouldnt they do that if that was a possibility? what is the inherent contempt power youre talking about? >> boy, i dont know. i cannot figure out. it is a no-brainer. ted lieu in...
October 8, 2021
Hes not subject. the executive privilege does not apply to him in any way, right? >> i cant emphasize how stupid steve bannons arguments are. they carry no legal water. he wasnt even working for the white house within years of the time where the documents are requested. its like -- its like if a kid comes up -- if a kid in a mask comes up to your house and says trick-or-treat in june hes not looking for candy. hes looking to rob you. like -- and that is what steve bannons argument is. hes saying...
October 8, 2021
The department of justice for chags going forward. it all reflects how far weve come from the norm over the four years of the trump administration. typically when congress issued subpoenas, there would be a kind of negotiation between the different branches, the members of the branchs about how much would be forth coming, what the scope of the subpoena and the subpoena testimony would be. because the trump administration so frequently stonewalled congress, we actually got to the point where ther...
October 8, 2021
The democrats have been charlie browned by the republicans at every turn for going on what? five-plus years. lay out for us what the committee can possibly do, can really do, real consequences beyond kind of vague threats and promises. >> the committee doesnt have that many options but one option thats available but that was not really in the available in the congress when i worked for the house is to refer over these witnesses to the department of justice to initiate criminal contempt proceedin...
October 8, 2021
Midnight. i dont think mark meadows will walk the documents to the control. he told us two years ago, he was going to fight off the subpoenas. he has managed to get off them off. are they going to get in core? i mean, tomorrow to try to compel it to the judge? are they going to tend it over to the doj? and if they send it over to doj, what is garland going to do? it will be his decision. it will be a federal crime. and we are in unprecedented times. >> we learned trump directly asks justice cont...
October 8, 2021
The republican party. it has not just spread to men in their 70s and 80s like donald trump and mitch mcconnell and chuck grassly. it is now completely consuming republicans in washington who are half the age of those men and younger. there could be future senators working on that republican committee staff, future members of the house, future white house chiefs of staff. ron klain worked on the staff of the senate judiciary committee. there could be a future republican president on that staff, f...
October 8, 2021
Coming up. stone walling is their m.o. we have seen time and time again over the last yores and i think thats what this is all about. i think theres complicated legal issues here as laura points out and the committee wants to get to the bottom of january 6. they could go the criminal route charging the people with contempt. they could charge civil contempt als also. theres ways to figure this out. time is of the essence. the democrats know what happened in the mueller investigation. they know wh...
October 8, 2021
And, you know, you cant push back on all of that. i mean, you watch how -- this might be one of the legacies of donald trump. i mean, donald trump by the way is obviously a product of a gummed down political culture. no question about that. but now he has all of us talking like we are 8-year-olds and you have politicians who talk to their electret with such condescending and contempt, they assume the voters are so stupid so you have guys from yale and harvard that are vying with one another who ...