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May 21, 2019
There. >> right. >> and maybe the d.c. system came back with a ruling in favor of the oversight committee, it looks like the court stands ready to rule quickly on some of thieves constitutional questions. >> right. t theabout it was if -- theres 500 people who represent the people in the senate as opposed to the presidency of one. so theres a kind of contempt for congress exhibited there. the second point, which related to this, the longer the white
May 21, 2019
Win over people? >> well, i think our campaign has represented a huge part of america for a year and a half. we have more than 8 million people who signed our petition and specifically come out and said, this president has obstructed justice, been corrupt and should be removed from office. >> are you winning over the people who have the votes to begin an impeachment inquiry in the house? >> well, i think two things are happening. one is, were going directly to the american people because we beli...
May 21, 2019
Court just like what is going on in the committees. clearly there is a calculated strategy here to bring people in, force them not to testify, and then they are going to try to compel their testimony, maybe cite them for contempt. all of this stuff is going on in a coordinated fashion. the white house, youre right, they have an executive privilege not to have people brought in over and over again. he has already testified in front of the mueller team and that testimony is available. so ultimatel...
May 21, 2019
They are going to hold mcgann and contempt. >> joe: welcome a mcgann was the counsel to the president. he gave 30 hours of testimony to mueller. that was not a waiver of executive privilege because mueller is anti-executive branch and was an employee of the president of the united states. so there is still executive privilege when it comes to testimony from the hill as well as various confidentiality privileges that the president has such as consultation and communication. so they are on very st...
May 21, 2019
I dont know what theyll do. they keep talking about serious consequences. >> did you want to weigh in on that? >> congress has to stand up for itself and having contempt votes doesnt get anyone anywhere. no one cares, william barr is cracking jokes about being held under contempt. they need to get this case into court as quickly as possible, they need to stop playing games and get this to a judge. >> speaking of joking about, because remember bill barr made a joke about did you bring your handcu...
May 21, 2019
Yards, john dean. how big a deal is this? >> this is a big deal for one particular reason. the accountants dont work for donald trump. they are not part of the government. so if theres a court ruling requiring them to turn over documents, theyre probably going to turn over documents. the president cant order them the way he can order parts of the government to keep appealing, to be found in contempt. they really are going to produce these -- these documents if theres no stay entered by the court...
May 21, 2019
Sage before we get to these transcripts he was white house counsel for president trump and the white house today is legging out why the former counsel should defy how subpoena to testify before judiciary committee and began through his lawyer has agreed to skip it. here is what president trump before heading to pennsylvania tonight. >> as i understand it, at the office of the presidency, i think it is a very important precedent. the attorneys are saying they are not doing that for me. they are d...
May 21, 2019
Stand up for democracy and protect our constitution. and i think hell do the same thing tomorrow. i hope he talks about contempt. but i dont -- i dont have any plans tomorrow except to be there and listen and support my chairman. >> representative cohen, thanks for coming on. well see you back soon. thank you, really appreciate it. >> youre welcome, don. a republican congressman said the president has engaged in impeachable conduct but the rest of his party seems intent on shielding the presid...
May 21, 2019
Let it kind of float atop the legal system until it compels a decision. >> well, it sort of cuts both ways with mcgahn with his law firm. his law firm still represents donald trumps presidential campaign. it still represents a lot of republican politicians in washington. so mcgahn, if he gets on the wrong side of trump, could have an impact on his firm. on the other hand, does mcgahn want to be held in contempt? does that mean anything to his legal practice in washington? could he have his law l...
May 21, 2019
Subpoena. collins made a persuasive point when he talked about historically these sorts of things were worked out behind the scenes. private testimony. limited scope. the democrats are having none of that and their positions have hardened. >> jon: it appears that democrats want to simply adjourn this committee. theyve made their point, i gather, and republicans are fighting that. if republicans stick together they wont win because theyre in the minority on this committee. what would be the point...