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It gave no means of tracing this back to the source, but it had a lot of information in it about things that had been happening in trump tower. And it appeared to be from somebody inside the transition or inside trump tower who was concerned about what this person was seeing. And a lot of whats written or conveyed in this letter has sort of come become true over time. Its taken a while for a lot of this stuff to surface, including this detail about this discussion over a back channel or a privat...

Work for lockheed and don, what everyone else did. you didnt, which is the more noble path, i would say, but you didnt have any money, how much do you think in the end you spent on legal defense? >> i would say -- im going to swear on your show, because it was pain but i will say that because its more than the finances, but you know, its from my -- selling my home, going through the incredible levels of embarrassment that you do go through that, you know, its humbling experience, but i was reall...

You didnt, which is the more noble path, i would say, but you didnt have any money, how much do you think in the end you spent on legal defense? >> i would say -- im going to swear on your show, because it was pain but i will say that because its more than the finances, but you know, its from my -- selling my home, going through the incredible levels of embarrassment that you do go through that, you know, its humbling experience, but ie was really strengthened by our faith. i mean, its in the mi...

Between election and inauguration when one government is fully and 100% in control, but its leaving, and another team is -- has no control whatsoever, but it will on january 20 at noon take full responsibility for everything that happens. >> let me ask one more question. malcolm, i want to come back to you on that. but let me just follow up one thing because you wrote, you know, part of the subtext here is that, you know, this candidate, candidate trump, was quite clearly more disposed to be pro...

Inauguration when one government is fully and 100% in control, but its leaving, and another team is -- has no control whatsoever, but it will on january 20 at noon take full responsibility for everything that happens. >> let me ask one more question. malcolm, i want to come back to you on that. but let me just follow up one thing because you wrote, you know, part of the subtext here is that, you know, this candidate, candidate trump, was quite clearly more disposed to be pro-putin and pro-russia...

Of personality. and like in any cult, there are people who believe in it and who believe very strongly that gadhafi is their leader, he is their father, he is their -- he is their symbol. it is frustrating. there is only so much you can do. you have to either wait until the situation becomes so intense and so volatile that the minders are no longer concerned with your activities or the minders do take back territory and they feel that its safe enough and theyre in control enough to allow that im...