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Trip. >> at 1:19 a.m., the co-pilot speaks with malaysian air traffic control for the last time. the controller advises the co-pilot to switch to a new radio frequency used by vietnamese air traffic controllers. vietnam is the next country along the flights originally scheduled route. in that conversation, the co-pilot says nothing about the previous course change, responding simply, all right goodnight, which is what fuels the suspicion of foul play and makes less likely the idea that an on-boa...

For crates there. there is a lot of logical explanation. we need to get the aircraft overhead. >> and janice dean saying you have a small window to do. that talk to me about what they are using to search. this is the p3. it his four-engines and turboprops and travels four miles a minute. >> i am going to reach across. there you go. >> and this is the nerve center the and the pilot will get us out to the location and down the back. there is a tactical controller and they get over in the search ar...

Common? that kind of casual language? >> well, yeah. its nonstandard, but that frequency is probably used all the time. and the controllers know that the pilots know and vice versa. >> so technically, were seeing it on the screen here all right good night technically the copilot should have reread ho chi minh city, 120.9. >> should have read back the frequency to confirm it. but theyve probably done this hundreds of times. and it just goes -- >> as far as youre concerned not much to glean from t...

Used all the time and the controllers know that the pilots know and vice versa. >> so technically, the co-pilot should have reread ho chi minh city, 120.9. >> yes, but theyve probably done this hundreds of times and it just goes -- >> so as far as youre concerned, not much to glean from this? >> no, and we seem to be focusing on the repeating of the altitude a bunch of times. the way i look at it, if i wanted a higher altitude to go into that air space, the way i coax a controller that i want a ...

There are two on board. therefore there is time if there is a fire. they are on two different electrical systems and backup systems so it is taking manual systems to do that. the timing is critical. >> tell us about that. >> when you switch from one air zone to the other you say good night to the controller and there is a space of 3-4 minutes before you fly into the next air defense zone. there is a period of lull there when you turn off the transponder you go down to a primary track and loose t...

Heres the bottom line. we know something did happen. the last horrendous accident here. now we have to take a look at the complete part of this transcript. at 42 minutes and 52 seconds he actually reads back the frequency that the air traffic control gave him. that is a formal correct response. the response back down at 1:19 -- hold on, richard. hold on. is not a formal correct response. >> so, youre saying is this just a casual lazy thing he would have done it both times. first time he did it p...

Against. you are going to need transmissions from the individual who is at a time when you know he is not under stress. thats why it would be important to get the actual recordings as bill has said of the back and forth between the ground controllers and the aircraft. that last transmission, "all right. good night." raises a couple of questions. whats all right? good night said this is the last im going to talk to you. there was an agreement between the controller and the copilot if that was him...

Your point about calling out the altitudes, every time you make a frequency change, the proper protocol which they are good at is to announce either if you are climbing, what level you are climbing through and have been cleared to and once you reach there if you are in cruise at 350, you announce that to the controller that malaysian 370 is with you at flight level 350. thats not unusual at all. >> you would announce it twice if you are changing frequencies? >> you announce it with every new con...

Was there anything said prior to that already good night and we are waiting too see if anything was raised that might have had a red flag. >> there was reportedly a call that was made six minutes before the all right, good night message delivered by the cockpit. what was that call? >> its hard given what we know, but basically it is quite possible that six minutes prior that there was a routine conversation between air traffic control. acknowledging altitude or location. these kinds of things ar...

The front end is key, pilot and co pilot, responsible for the aircraft safety. and they will get the jet out to the search area. >> walk me through whats significant. i look at the guts of this, and none of it makes sense. >> this is the flight area, so the guys will get the aircraft out there the search area. what then happens, the back here is the tc, the tactical controller, the responsibility for the mission is handed over from the pilot to the tactical controller. this bit here, this is the...