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holding in places. its terrible. after they killed 1300 civilians in music festivals in c can a c. we dont want to hit the hostages themselves. we are fighting in a way that needs to go strong. you need to go light. you need to go with ariel coverage and tanks. you also need to go with special forces that really do it in a very delicate manner on one hand but being very discernment on the other. >> brian: people keep forgetting how this start and why we woo we got here. thanks so much ...

Detonated explosive device. if that carried the device and somebody else command detonated it. that would mean auto divide or isis. it wasnt suicide vest. its a very sophisticated weapon system. something somebody carried. in we dont know yet. the level of sophistication of the bomb itself will tell us who is responsible. brian: here is what catherine herridge found out from dhs. if confirmed its terrorism which were, because theresa may said it level of sophistication beyond u.k. attacks. shrap...