out in the cold, because they turn on television not cnn, but they go on television or turn on conventional talk radio, and everything is so polarized. if you landed here from mars, you would think that everyone is diametrically on one side or the other, but when i m leading my real life, doing grocery shopping, or going back to school night, pumping gas, i engage for people whose issues are a mixed bag. so as i m seated behind a microphone, i m trying not to lose sight of the fact that that s the core contingency i m trying to reach. michael, what, though, do you do? you re live on the air, you hear a guest utter a stream of facts, do you interrupt them? do you challenge them? how do you challenge if you yourself don t have the specific facts to which they were referring? i think the honest answer is it depends on who the guest is. i ve got in that position with the president of the united