in fact the longest serving conservative defence secretary ever, ben wallace, who stepped down from his job in the summer citing the cost of what he said was putting work and country ahead of my family. a member of the government in some form ever since the conservatives came to power in 2010, he can now reflect on what he s learned about politics and about defence as he prepares for a life outside westminster. ben wallace, welcome to political thinking. thank you. we are speaking a few hours after the chancellor unveiled what he called his largest ever tax cut for workers. if you were running at the next election, would you be preparing for a spring election? no. i would probably be waiting for september. i think it is a good autumn statement. jeremy has gone on the right place around national insurance, effectively rewarding effort, work and trying people who we need to generate wealth and pay tax receipts so we can have more to spend and grow the economy. i think he has do
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you re going to want to hear what she says. it is tomorrow night, 9:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. now it is time for the last word with the great lawrence o donnell. good evening. good evening, rachel. of course, the breaking legal news of the night, which sounds minor, in its way, is that donald trump s lawyers have already sent a letter to judge mershon in that case saying that today s action by the united states supreme court means that that conviction has to be thrown out. i think sentencing is going to proceed and the new york courts will say take that on your appeal. what that is the latest, that is the very first legal move they have made since the supreme court ruled today. here we go. as far as the practical consequence of that in the new york criminal case. i think judge mershon will hear arguments from both sides as to whether the sentencing should be delayed. i don t think the sentencing, i mean, he has been convicted. you don t throw something
the networks of nbc news, thank you for staying up late. i will see you again tomorrow. today, the u.s. supreme court granted donald trump immunity for conduct described in exactly two paragraphs. a 130 paragraph indictment. the rest of the indictment against donald trump still stands as of tonight. the supreme court has ordered the trial judge in the case, judge chutkan, to hear testimony in the case from a very long list of potential witnesses to clarify if some of the remaining charges in the indictment might now fit into a new category created by the supreme court today, granting criminal immunity for some presidential conduct. that could lead judge chutkan to in effect be presiding over an examination of the evidence similar to or equal to what would occur in the prosecution in the trial, the actual trial, of this case when prosecutor jack smith would be calling prosecution witnesses to the witness stand in judge chutkan s courtroom including mike pence to take an oath