giving up toys for love. how the song you're hearing helped make her dream come true with our cameras rolling. ♪ and what a happy friday it is here at "gma." good morning, america. big day here today because we are celebrating robin's first birthday. [ applause ] now, we just explain a little bit. one year today -- one year ago today, robin had her bone marrow transplant. >> you're a bouncing baby girl today, robin. any day, she's going to walk. it's going to be great. >> and anybody who celebrates this, realizes, it's not just today, it's about the future as well. >> it's a very, very, very special day. >> and a celebration for sally-ann, your sister. >> thank you for saying that. i've always been big for my age. no. really. it's a very special day full of gratitude. we'll celebrate later in the morning. we have news to get to, first. josh has all of the top stories, starting with the sloot ths overnight in chicago. >> late night in chicago. we're going to go there. a latest act of violence in a city overrun with it. a 3-year-old among the many wounded. abc's alex perez is there. good morning to you, alex. >> good morning, josh. many people were out last night, enjoying the warm weather. here on this basketball court at this park when suddenly a number of innocent bystanders got caught in the mid of of a shower of bullets. this is 3-year-old deonty howard, the youngest victim in what has become an epidemic of chicago gun violence. >> it happened to fast. i heard shots. i came over here. there was a lot of people down. >> reporter: the shootings happened just after 10:00 last night near cornell square park on chicago's south side. >> a lot of shots, man, like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. and a kid got hit. a 3-year-old got hit in the face. >> reporter: two adults remain in critical condition. but all are expected to survive. >> we had 11 victims that were treated and transported to various hospitals throughout the city. >> reporter: there have been over 1,600 shootings in chicago this year. police suspect this incident may be gang-related, with many of the 13 victims, simply innocent bystanders. and this morning, investigators are working to track down the g gunman but at this point no arrests have been made. josh? >> alex perez in chicago. thank you for that. also new this morning, perhaps a thaw in the frosty relationship between the united states and iran. it could be just days away. the white house is suggesting that president obama could meet iran's newly elected president next week, when both are here in new york city. it would then be the first such meeting since 1977. and apple lovers rejoice. the newest versions of the iphone on sale this morning. take a look at these fans in japan. fair to say, they got into it overnight. actually dressing in all manner of costume as the doors opened there. here in the u.s., people have been lined up for days, all to get their hands on the new iphone 5s and the cheaper 5c. and ground beef bound for the school lunch program being recalled because it could contain bits of plastic. the meat being recalled was produced on april 1st and shipped to distribution centers in arkansas, california, montana and texas. it was a tense night in the college town of san luis obispo. people urged to stay indoors after a 300-pound black bear was spotted in the heart of downtown. it's a lovely downtown. police sent out a text message warning people to stay inside. after three hours, the bear made a good choice of towns, returns safely to the woods. and finally a teenage dairy queen manager from minnesota, rightfully earning major kudos today. joey, you see him there, was appalled when he saw a customer pick up a blind man's $20 bill and slip it into her purse. so, he refused to serve the woman unless she returned the money. instead, she stormed out. so, joey then gave the blind customer $20 out of his own pocket. word of his good deed thankfully spread. and yesterday, got a call from warren buffett himself. >> that explains that picture. >> his company owns dairy queen. the boss man called down and said good on you. to joey, we say, good on you. >> i love those stories, love it. >> that is great. thank you, josh. we're going to get the latest on the navy yard shooting. the warning signs were there. abc news has learned that shooter aaron alexis was kicked out of the navy housing just weeks before his rampage because he was raving about voices in his head. abc's pierre thomas is tracking the investigation in washington. good morning, pierre. >> reporter: good morning, george. today, even more warning signs missed. and disturbing new details about how the suspect had free reign to kill those victims. law enforcement sources tell abc news, aaron alexis abruptly left a newport, rhode island, navy barracks, after constantly complaining that noises were coming out of his linen closet. during roughly the same time frame, new port naval station police were warned by local authorities that alexis was hearing voices and feared he was under constant surveillance by shadowy figures. but navy station police did not pass the information up the chain of command. >> there should have been a mental health assessment done, in order to determine the severity of these hallucinations. >> reporter: alexis' mental state appeared to be rapidly deteriorating. six days before alexis came to washington, a practicing buddhist came to washington, he went to a temple complaining to monks that he was hearing voices. >> he said he didn't sleep. >> reporter: sources tell fbi news the investigating whether alexis targeted specific co-workers. and new fbi director, james comey, told reporters, disturbing new details thursday. he says alexis was working on a computer server program in navy yard building 197, which allowed him to enter and move about the facility freely. and we learned, he sawed off his shotgun with a hacksaw, bought at a home depot, and hid it in a bag, walking right by security. the fbi director said alexis appeared to be hunting people in a random way, without pattern. so much heartache. on sunday, president obama plans to attend the service honoring the fallen. robin? >> we continue to think about them, pierre. thank you. now, to a big headline on the economy and your money. new numbers out reveal the housing market is booming. home sales, soaring. more people are rushing to buy right now. abc's rebecca jarvis is here now, with what's pushing home sales. >> hi, robin. there were a handful of things that are pushing this. it is a housing feeding frenzy. buyers racing to get homes before mortgage rates, that's a big one. before mortgage rates tick any higher. home sales are at their highest level since 2007. we're hearing that the houses that are sitting on the market are sitting there for less than 24 hours with the pace of existing home sales up 13.2% from last year. the biggest thing spurring this surge are mortgage rates. this morning, the 30-year fixed rate mortgage is 4.4%. that's a full percent higher than where rates were in may. some people could have gotten some people couldn't have gotten a mortgage in may for 3 .4%. >> it's creeping up a little bit here. that means bigger house payments. what is the difference we're talking about here? >> it's sizable robin. every time you see mortgage rates go up about a percent, you're going to see your cost of owning that home go up 10%. on a $200,000 mortgage, you'll pay about $2,000 a year more. just for the mortgage. >> that's a big difference. all right. it adds up. >> have a good weekend. >> that housing surge is good news on the economy. we're going to washington, and the dysfunction that could derail the economy. believe it or not, we could be days away from another government shutdown and possible default from the u.s. jon karl is covering it from the white house. two, big deadlines approaching. the government runs out of money september 30th. and can't bore borrow any more money a couple weeks after that. >> reporter: that's right, george. it is a real mess. house republicans are set today to finally pass a bill that would temporarily fund the government until december. but it includes a provision that nothing, no money can be spent on the president's health care bill ever. that has 0% chance of passing in the senate. that puts us back to square one, with the government shutdown set in just over a week. remember, this is just a temporary funding bill. it's the first big thing. we also, as you mentioned, have coming up, whether the government will continue to borrow money. that could put the government in default. >> and the consequences of the shutdown is bad. the consequences of default is catastrophic. and a new poll out on abc that had warnings for both sides. >> reporter: it sure does. this is about the president's health care law. it shows the law is still unpopular. a majority of the public doesn't like the way it's being implemented. only barely a third approves of how it's being implemented. but, george, our poll also shows that more unpopular than the president's health care law, by far, is the idea of shutting down the government to defund it. >> yet. it may happen. jon karl, thanks very much. now, to new details on the abduction of the teenage girl in georgia, snatched from her home at gunpoint. the 14-year-old says as many as four men were involved in the kidnapping and holding her for 36 hours. and newly released court documents show they did demand a ran some. abc's gio benitez has been tracking this ever-developing story. >> reporter: unbelievable. good morning to you, robin. the big question is, was this just a random home invasion? newly released court documents show just hours after the girl was taken, her family began receiving calls demanding cash and drugs, in exchange for her release. something that at the time, police publicly denied. the fbi now says it tracked down this man, wildrego jackson, by tracing call records from the blocked phone number used to demand ransom, from ayvani perez's family. jackson seen here in a courtroom sketch, appeared in federal court thursday, facing charges of conspiracy to commit kidnapping for ransom and possession of a firearm. investigators also say that just days before the kidnapping, jackson's girlfriend rented a gray dodge challenger. at the time of the kidnapping, they say a witness saw a gray dodge speeding away from the home after hearing screams. abc station wsb reports that jackson, who goes by the street name, dreco, has a lengthy rap sheet, going back ten years. this morning, we're also learning more about perez's harrowing 36-hour ordeal. according to court documents, perez told investigators, three to four men abducted her, hiding their faces. telling her not to look at them. >> a 14-year-old girl -- >> reporter: as national media attention focused on the abduction, it appears the alleged kidnappers may have had a change of heart, calling family and dropping the teen off at a relative's house in conyers, 26 miles away without a ran some. >> this case is unusual. it looks like there were multiple players involved. the kidnapping appears to be an afterthought. when they don't get any money, they release the victim unharmed. >> reporter: meanwhile, police say this man, juan contreras rodriguez was picked up in relation to the case. he's being held on unrelated immigration charges. but we've learned in 2012, he was busted with perez's mom in a pot trafficking ring. charges were later dropped. and we still don't know what was behind this abduction or even that home invasion. but we do know police are still on the hunt for two other men. and, robin, that little girl, safe and sound. >> that's the headline. that is the headline. all right, gio, thank you. if any of you need anymore evidence that texting and driving don't mix, look at this. a bus driver with one hand on the wheel, another on her phone, causing the huge vehicle to swerve all over the road. it was all caught on camera. abc's matt gutman has the story. >> reporter: this florida school bus driver is suspended this morning after allegedly being caught with one hand on the wheel. and two eyes on her phone. watch as the hillsboro county driver, steers this bus, backed with middle schoolers, apparently tapping on her smartphone. but it wasn't the school system that caught her. the sleuth in this case, the eighth grade daughter of venus koto silva, who shot the video friday. >> she showed me the video, i couldn't believe it. >> reporter: the 14-year-old said she was trying to catch her driver cursing. instead, she caught this. >> the scary part is, see how quickly she grabbed the wheel? >> reporter: the school district called it a violation of policy, adding, clearly, the driver is looking at her cell phone. that's a dangerous distraction for any driver. but the potential danger is greater when you have a bus full of children. almost one-quarter of all accidents are now believed to be caused by drivers on phones, apparently smarter than they are. this one was texting when he slammed into a line of cars in texas. and this bus driver in florida last year, apparently also busted while he texted. watch his hand spelling instead of steering. mayors across the country are now rallying for tougher laws. >> we realize it's up to us as individuals and as cities and a nation to put an end to have special epidemic. >> reporter: as for koto-silva, she said she's still concerned. >> not only are they going to kill a driver, they're going to kill the children on that bus. >> reporter: florida's new law banning while texting while driving. won't apply to the driver of her daughter's bus. it doesn't take effect for another week and a half. for "good morning america," matt gutman, abc news, miami. >> the official there said it right. social epidemic. it happens all the time. but it has to stop. >> i used to drive a school bus. it's all you can do to maintain your focus. i couldn't imagine trying to text at the same time. now, to the vatican and the surprising comments by pope francis, sending shock waves through the catholic church this morning. signaling a real shift in tone, as he urges a more inclusive church and, quote, home for all. "good morning america" weekend anchor dan harris has the story for us. >> reporter: good morning. first of all, happy birthday. second of all, who knew you drove a school bus? the leads here this morning. let me get to the pope news. it's extremely rare for a pope to grant an interview, and rarer still for a pope to grant one like this. francis speaks openly, candidly and bluntly, signaling the church needs to be less judgmental, less political, and more focused on love, acceptance and forgiveness. straight from the jump, pope francis has tried to set a fresh tone. he lives in a simple room. not ornate papal apartments. he drives an old car. he takes selfies with tourists. he washes the feet of juvenile inmates. and he makes phone calls to people who write him letters, which has earned him some gentle ribbing from the likes of jon stewart. >> if the pope calls the wrong number, does he admit it? or does he say -- i'm sorry, holy father, you have the wrong number. no, i'm infallible. you're in the wrong house. >> reporter: there's been more serious criticism, too. from hard-liners who do not like this pope's de-emphasis on hot-button social issues. in this new interview, released simultaneously in jesuit journals worldwide, francis seems utterly unswayed. saying the church has become obsessed with small-minded rules. and it must be the home of all, not a small chapel, that the hold only a small group of selected people. he bluntly declares, we cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods. what a change from his predecessor, pope benedict, who controversially claimed on a trip to africa that condoms actually exacerbated the aids epidemic. to be clear here, the pope is not calling for a change in church teachings on these hot-button issue, but instead, for a shift in emphasis and tone. is this likely to trickle down to local parishes throughout america? >> i think it's trickled up to the papacy from the local parish because the pope is actually speaking to us in this interview in a way in which a good pastor or priest talks to his parishioners. not in a top-down, overly intellectual way. but from his heart. >> reporter: such a fascinating interview. and one of the other striking things about this exchange is the pope's repeated admissions of personal frailty. he describes himself as undisciplined. and at times naive. he says when he was younger, he made decisions in an authoritarian way. and when asked who he is, he replies, quite simply, i'm a sinner. fascinating stuff. >> everything you do, makes you think of the name he chose, pope francis of assisi, just walking with the poor. >> washing the feet of juvenile inmates. he's focuses on charity and humility. >> and he is changing the tone. dan, thank you very much. let's get a check of the weather. when you're over there by all that -- >> this is tough for texas this morning. overnight, good morning, the heavy rain, two pockets of tropical remnants driving the moisture up in the middle of the country. we have flood warnings and watches for a good part of texas. waco to dallas, there's been overnight flooding. and will continue to be in the morning, at least 4 1/2, maybe 5 inches of rain, kind of in some of those zones. let me show you the good news and bad news of this. we want as much rain without the flooding that we're getting. look how much of the country is in drought. extreme drought. one of the highest levels in drought. they're about a foot behind in rainfall here. we think probably it's about four to six inches of rain coming in the next 48 hours. the problem is, dry ground, rain coming all at one time. that means flooding. but they need that rain. good morning. i'm abc 7 news meteorologist mike nicco with your bay area microclimate forecast. today, we're going to see an increase in clouds and sea breeze. temperatures 7 to 12 degrees cooler than yesterday. watch out for rain in the north bay tonight, drizzle along the coast and san francisco. scattered showers for the rest of us tomorrow. and dry and cooler than average sunday through next week. temperatures today 60s along the coast into san francisco and richmond. 70s elsewhere, possibly few coming up in the next half hour, we're going to go over where it's cool and where it's warm. a lot of that stuff. >> it's hot in here. >> thank you, sam. happy friday. coming up on "gma," she's the woman who became famous for her nonstop hiccups. now, on trial for murder. the bizarre twist in the courtroom right now. and the story behind the brave letter to santa gone viral. a little boy wanted everyone to stop bullying his twin sister. >> i love that story. and also ahead, selina gomez forced to cancel her concerts in russia. why is she being shut out? selina gomez forced to cancel her concerts in russia. why is she being shut out? 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>> i can't kill nobody. >> why are they charging you with attempted murder? >> because i set everything up. it all went wrong, mom. it went downhill after everything happened, mom. >> who were you trying to kill, jennifer? >> nobody. it wasn't even supposed to happen like that, mom. >> reporter: experts testified that mee's dna was found on the victim's shirt. the defense argued it could have been transferred to the t-shirt by another person. in a crime lab dna expert agreed. last month, la ron rayford was sentenced to prison. mee could face life in prison, which is what the victim's family would like to see happen. >> we have to go to a graveyard to see him. >> reporter: for "good morning america," linsey davis, abc news, new york. >> we should mention that mee has pleaded not guilty. >> let's bring in abc's chief legal affairs anchor, dan abrams. we would not be talking about this had we not been talking about her from her hiccup case. how does it affect it in trial? >> the defense attorney has mentioned it in the course of this case. i think the defense is hoping that the jurors may feel sorry for her. there's been periods in court when she hiccupped for 20 minutes straight. it's not really going to be relevant directly to the case. no question, the defense is hoping that jurors feel bad for her. >> and no one is claiming she pulled the trigger. but facing murder charges. >> if she had the intent to commit the robbery. if she had no idea that anyone had a gun, but had intent with regard to the robbery and someone gets shot and killed, she's on trial now for felony murder. that's all they have to prove in the context of this case is, she had the intent to commit that robbery. >> i know you've read a lot into this case. how strong is the prosecution's case? >> when you think about it with regard to just the robbery, it's pretty strong. she made comments to her mother, as you heard on tape, saying that she set it up. but she's going to say, when i said set it up. i didn't mean set up the robbery. i just meant set up a meeting. the defense is going to be, she didn't have intent to commit the robbery. prosecutors have a lot of evidence. >> many eager to see what's going to happen here. >> happy birthday. we're going to turn to selena gomez, caught up in an international controversy. she's been forced to cancel concerts in russia. is s is she having problems because she's the latest performer to protest their anti-gay policies. >> selena gomez, caught up in an international firestorm. scheduled to perform in st. petersburg and moscow next week. both performances have been canceled. quote, due to complications with visa applications and timing. but now, some are speculating that gomez is the latest victim of russia's controversial crackdown on performers who publicly favor gay rights. >> western pop stars have used the stage as a platform to speak out about the anti-gay actions going on in russia. they felt that maybe salena could do that herself. >> reporter: increased violence against gays and the passage of a law that makes it illegal to speak about homosexuality in front of children, has prompted performers like lady gaga, to denounce the country's anti-gay policies. on mother russia's home turf. this is lady gaga performing in ma moscow. >> tonight, this is my house, russia. you can be gay in my house. >> reporter: madonna did the same in st. petersburg. >> and gay people here and all the rest of the world, have the same rights. >> reporter: the russian agency in charge of issuing the visa says the timing of the request is ultimately to blame. not gomez's stance on gay rights. however, on wednesday, a change.org petition asked gomez to stand in solidarity with russia's gay community. a request many think may have caused the visa complications. well, elton john says he wants to play in russia in december, to lend his support to the gay community. but there's no word yet on whether or not he's actually received a visa. meanwhile, cher is reportedly turned down the offer of playing at the opening ceremonies of the winter olympics in russia, citing the country's anti-gay laws. the list of celebrities keeps on growing. robin and george? >> people stepping up. stepping up. that's it. sam, a scene for the east coast. >> you like the warm numbers, george? they are look pretty good. we're going to start with some pictures that came to us. you don't always see this. when a waterspout develops, it develops over water. it looks like a tornado. but it isn't officially one until it moves onshore in the same form. it happened in the bahamas. the waterspout and coming onshore as a tornado. incredible pictures. we thought we'd bring that to you. this is the warmth that georgia is excited about. raleigh, 80. jacksonville, 86. four to five degrees milder than this time of year. when you look at that warmth, enjoy it. i know it's been a cool last couple of days. on the west coast, here's where the heavy rain is. medford, eureka. seattle, portland, almost to sacramento, really, showers that get you almost an inch of rain nchs good morning. i'm mike nicco. changing of the guard today. increasing clouds this afternoon. some drizzle along the coast and san francisco to light rain in the no >> all that weather was brought to you by at&t. you'll see this word cooling. it's a little more than cooling. that's a pocket of cold air with a little light stuff. already on the boards. >> all right, sam. coming up, brawling over co co co co cory. ale announcer ] now, taking care of things at home is just a tap away. ♪ introducing at&t digital life... ♪ ...personalized home security and automation... 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"variety" published an editorial against the decision. >> cory has a wonderful career that was cut short. what about the other people who had longer careers and we miss terribly? >> reporter: emmy show top producer, ken ehrlich, said it was important to represent younger viewers. cory's appeal was to maybe a little different generation than some of the others we're honoring. show producers say they're standing by the decision on what is become an awkward controversy. vafing an actor friends remember, as always humble about his fame. for "good morning america," neal karlinsky, abc news, seattle. >> in our abc news online poll, we asked should the emmys honor cory monteith with a special tribute. and it is almost exactly 50/50 right now. >> it's hard. >> it is a hard decision. >> not so much to honor him. it's the other -- jack klugman. >> that's right. >> they are honoring them. >> good way of putting it. >> join us monday morning for our complete emmy coverage right here in times square. it will be good. and coming up, so will the rest of the show. we have a show coming up on former reality show jon gosling. why the "jon and kate" star is taking orders. and our "play of the day" will have you getting the dancing shoes out and enjoy this little sensation. with a fresher bum. can i talk to you about... bums? your nerves kick in, you've got to go. is toilet paper enough? no you want that. and you want that in every port-a-let. you need the dream team. combo! imagine how great it would feel on your bum. mmmm... yeah that's the face, isn't it? mmmmmm... 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"ain't no mountain high enough," all to celebrate robin's birthday. her first birthday since her bone marrow transplant. >> i already apologized to george for this hour. i'm going to dance. i'm going to have a good time. i thank everybody for their tweets. and i tell you, that was my strength. that gave me courage. the support here. the support from all around. and when you have your transplant, it's known as your birthday. and i'm not the only one. i heard from natasha. she had her transplant one year ago today. that beautiful woman there, also celebrating. >> happy birthday. >> one last thing i'm going to say, a lot of us might not be a bone marrow transplant. we all got something. everybody has something. and we say, one day i'm going to be happy. one day, i'm going to be healthy. turn the script. make one day, day one. make it day one of your journey. that's it. that's what you have to do. all of us. >> well, the first couple of minutes of a great hour, has me going. >> you have a great story you're going to share. >> it is terrific. it's the story of a kid. an 8-year-old boy, wanting to give up everything. wrote a letter to santa. i don't want anything. i just want you to stop kids at school from bullying my twin sister. you see them both there. two wonderful children. inspirations. a wonderful family. and this is taking head-on, an issue that needs to stop. bullying has to stop. >> now. >> and today, it's day one of that, as well. we take our first step. >> good for you, josh. let it stop now. hey. how about a little talk with pink. how about a sitdown with pink with the -- exclamation point. one of the things she's going to reveal is, she thought at some point that people were afraid of her. let's get some news first from josh. >> we're going to chicago, where last night, violence unfolded overnight. 13 people hurt in what police are calling a gang-related mass shooting. the youngest victim a 3-year-old, who is already out of surgery. meanwhile, police are searching for the gunman. and the clock is ticking towards a possible government shutdown today. the house votes on a bill to fund the government. but it is unlikely to pass without a deal. a shutdown will happen, now, in just 11 days. and the new hazing scandal is rocking one of the nation's leading universities. it is happening at cornell, where the entire men's lacrosse team, they've all been suspended. their fall schedule canceled. that suspension comes after freshman players were allegedly forced to drink alcohol by other team members. and "forbes" magazine is out with a new list to envy. the highest-earning celebrity couples. and for a second year in a row, it's good to be queen, with a king like jay z. jay z and queen b. topping the list. tom brady, gisele bundchen getting by with $80 million. and poor brangelina, just $50 million. can you feel it? postseason baseball is right around the corner. the red sox, the latest team to qualify. they wrapped up a postseason berth last night, winning over baltimore. first time since 2009. oh, and maybe baseball's first division champs, your los angeles dodgers. >> what? >> celebrating in arizona. and then, they have a pool at the stadium. so, into the pool they went to celebrate. apparently they asked the dodgers not to celebrate on the field. and overnight on social media, it got anti-social. some calling the dodgers' celebration, classless. i would just say this. there's not an unwritten rule for don't dive in another team's pool in a baseball stadium. >> i was wondering how long it would take you to mention the dodgers. congratulations. >> thank you. >> so happy for you. hey, everybody. how about some "pop news." a wonderful friday. are you ready for more j.t. justin timberlake released his second single from the new album. tko happened yesterday with teases and notes on social media. j.t. is so smart. it included a video of justin singing the tune. and then, asking fans directly, should i release a new single today? the answer, a resounding yes. "tko" is out now. full album release, set for later this fall. talented and supersmart. good guy. the emmys, not the only thing being celebrated in hollywood this weekend. the iconic hollywood sign is turning 90. tinseltown marked the occasion with a celebration on the roof of the "w" hotel in hollywood. the giant letters, not always the sign of all things showbusiness. built in 1923. as you said, hollywood. almost tore down in the '70s. hugh hefner saved the day by auctioning off the land. and that is the story and the history of this iconic treasure. >> hef, getting it done. >> yeah. with an asterisk. and a few true slices of americana up for sale. norman rockwell. now, three of his paintings will be sold at sotheby's. "the gossip." a shot of this beautiful painting. we also have "walking to church." and "saying grace," which is estimated to bring in between $15 million to $20 million alone. steven spielberg owns one. george lucas owns one. and now, you can, too. >> robin, you would like one? >> for my birthday -- >> you want "saying grace"? that's "pop news." out to sam for the weather. >> everyone out here live in times square, where everybody comes by to say hello. ladies, why are we all in the same shirts? read it for me. just because we're in new york city at "gma." that's right. now, you didn't have to dress me up like a razorback. let's get to the boards. let's just go. just go. we'll start with a little breckenridge snow. here's the deal. at 4:44 on sunday morning, you're have a little cool chill that will run from the base of your spine between the shoulder blades. that's the official start of fall. chicago, detroit, nashville, pittsburgh, get ready for the numbers to drop. it is 64 by the time we get to sunday. i love it out here with you guys. i may stay out here all day. good morning. i'm abc 7 news meteorologist mike nicco with your bay area microclimate forecast. today, we're going to see an increase in clouds and sea breeze. temperatures 7 to 12 degrees cooler than yesterday. watch out for rain in the north bay tonight, drizzle along the coast and san francisco. scattered showers for the rest of us tomorrow. and dry and cooler than average sunday through next week. temperatures today 60s along the coast into san francisco and richmond. 70s >> we're outside having a good time. i don't know what's coming up next. what's coming up next. we're going inside to -- >> lara. >> good job. thank you. here's what's coming up on our "gma morning menu." life for former reality star, jon gosselin. and the letter that's gone viral. josh brings us this story about a brother asking for kids to stop bullying his sister. and our interview with pink. and, everybody, it's robin's first birthday party, coming up on "good morning america," live in times square. ♪ wow...look at you. i've always tried to give it my best shot. these days i'm living with a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem. at first, i took warfarin, but i wondered, "could i up my game?" my doctor told me about eliquis. and three important reasons to take eliquis instead. one, eliquis was proven to reduce the risk of stroke better than warfarin. two, eliquis had less major bleeding than warfarin. and three... unlike warfarin, there's no routine blood testing. 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"jon & kate plus 8" pulled in 10 million viewers a week. >> you can't walk away without lea. >> you need to wake up. >> reporter: this morning, four years after he left the show, jon gosselin is revealing he works as a waiter. >> my name's jon. >> reporter: and lives in a cabin, with no tv and no internet. in an interview with "entertainment tonight," gosselin said when he exited the show, he couldn't find work. >> it's near impossible to find work. >> reporter: picking up shifts at this pennsylvania restaurant. >> at first, i was nervous because i was like, how are people going to react? then, i'm thinking, it's fun. i get to talk to people. and they technically already know me. are you the guy? yeah, i'm the guy. >> reporter: his boss is having the former tv on staff is great for business. >> he fits right in. it makes a good experience for the people. they enjoy him. they like him. and he likes to talk to people. >> he's gone from being one of the biggest reality stars on tv, to a waiter in a local restaurant in eastern pennsylvania. it shows that fame is a very fleeting thing. >> reporter: what happened to gosselin's tv fortune? >> i haven't grossed millions of dollars. >> reporter: gosselin says he doesn't pay child support. >> agreed upon situations. >> reporter: despite it all, he says he has no regrets. even proclaiming his more humble life is a happy one. for "good morning america," linzie janis, abc news, new york. >> good for him. >> exactly. >> he's working. >> he's working. a story we've been waiting to share with you today. a brother's letter to santa claus. an early one, at that. it went understandably viral. 8-year-old ryan, writing that the only thing he wanted more than any other toy for christmas, was for kids at school to stop bullying his twin sister, amber. take a look. 8-year-olds ryan and amber suffern are you typical twin siblings. but as ever, clearly attuned to the other's needs. and in the worst of time, feeling each other's pain. something their mother, karen, discovered recently. a single mom with a part-time job, struggling to pay the family's bills. she asked her kids to write a note to santa early. >> i need you to go ahead and write what you want for christmas. >> reporter: ryan wrote his letter to santa almost immediately. >> i decided, let me take a peek. >> reporter: and what he wrote, was as beautiful as it was gut-wrenching. would you do me a favor? read your letter out loud. >> dear, santa. i wanted a remote-control car and helicopter. but i don't want that anymore. kids at school are still picking on amber. and it's not fair because she doesn't do anything to them. and it makes me mad. i pray that they will stop. but god is busy. and he needs your help. is it against the rules to give gifts early? >> reporter: and ryan, so genuine, so pure, didn't stop there. he also asked for his sister to be able to meet her favorite band. >> can you ask big time rush to come to amber's birthday party? it will make her so happy. if you can't get them to come, just get her everything she asks for. thanks, santa. >> so, needless to say, i started crying. >> reporter: prior to the letter, you were aware that your daughter was suffering. >> she would tell me things that kids would say at school. they would call her names. amber suffers from a few mental disorders. they would egg her on to do different things. and it was a pattern. >> reporter: a pattern that karen also bullied and suicidal as a child, decided must end after her recent talk with amber. >> they were like, yeah. they pick on me sometimes. i feel like i want to die so they'll leave me alone. and as soon as the words came out of her mouth, i felt my heart stop. sorry. >> reporter: it's okay. >> i told her, i was going to do everything to protect her. >> reporter: and so would her twin brother. what's it like having ryan as a brother? >> he protects me. >> reporter: are kids mean to you? >> yeah. but i don't know why. they, like, say i'm fat, i'm stupid, i'm ugly and i'm heinous. i don't believe them. >> reporter: do you wish people would mess with you instead of amber? >> yes. >> you don't have to do that. >> reporter: amber, did you like hearing this letter? >> yes. >> reporter: did you give him a hug? >> yes. >> reporter: amber, can i tell you one other thing? it's going to get better. >> yay. >> reporter: i promise. but what amber and ryan and their mother don't know, is that santa may have already answered her brother's letter and sent amber's favorite band, big time rush, to meet her. ♪ i decided i could give it a try ♪ >> reporter: you asked can santa give a gift early? >> her birthday. >> reporter: yeah. for the birthday. hmm. i think -- i think somebody up north might have gotten this already. let's see. i do think that -- i think somebody actually did get this letter early. guys? >> hi. >> hey. >> hello. >> how are you doing? >> what's up? >> how are you doing? >> can i get a hug here? >> how are you? >> all right. awesome. >> oh, my gosh. >> reporter: amber didn't just get to meet big time rush. ♪ worldwide >> reporter: an early christmas for a deserving young girl, who already has the best gift of them all. always love and protect her. >> how was that? all right? >> reporter: one more. ♪ just one thing that i know >> oh. >> you know -- >> that's enough. >> oh. >> that's so adorable. >> i want to thank the suffern family, for joining us today. >> okay. okay. >> i want to thank big time rush, who came out. they're going to be -- the family's going to be their v.i.p. guests this weekend at a big concert. i want to say to you, i said it all morning long, bullying is a scourge that is taking our most precious resource, young children in this country. we need to stop it. and so, thank you, guys. thank you, guys. >> that was really great. >> really great. congratulations, josh. >> yeah. i hate to -- >> no, it's good. day one. >> day one. i love that. >> first day. >> your favorite artist is also in the "heat index." pink, honored as billboard's woman of the year. she's tackling her first major acting role in "thanks for sharing." and nick watt is sharing with us. take a look. ♪ right from the start >> reporter: pink is going stratospheric. ♪ just a little bit of love >> reporter: just named billboard's woman of the year. >> i'm humbly just walking around saying, really? thanks. thank you. >> reporter: you like it. nice. >> well, it doesn't suck. >> reporter: yeah. ♪ don't you ever feel >> reporter: she claims motherhood has fed her success. >> i think since i became a mom, people are less afraid of me. i seem a little more human. >> reporter: right now, she's on a world tour with 2-year-old willow grace, plus her very much on-again husband, along for the ride. >> she's a great traveler. >> reporter: and your husband? >> not as good a traveler as she is. >> reporter: how did you get to the place you are now with your husband? >> i have trained him. oh, wow. i get them young and train them. >> reporter: and you're also a makeup model now. >> i'm a cover girl. can't you tell? can you make it so my tooth goes ding? >> reporter: she just made her silver screen debut in "thanks for sharing," playing a recovering sex addict. >> there's a lot of dudes in here. >> reporter: looking for a lovable tough girl with a soft center. is that you? >> you found her. >> reporter: is that you? >> that's me. >> reporter: soft center? >> yeah. the hardest shells have the gooeyest middles. >> reporter: for "good morning america," nick watt, abc news, los angeles. >> just love her energy. >> i know. >> i mean, i'm really -- i'm loving this whole show today. >> positive. >> a great, young, female pop star. terrific. >> a great show. there's a lot more to love. >> can i tell everybody, "thanks for sharing," is in theaters today. right now, we're warming up for the big birthday celebration. this is a little more fun, as well. one of our special mashups. and, robin, this one is for you. >> okay. ♪ two, three, one >> robin. it has to be you. >> it's going to be. building great futures. >> get it started. ♪ early in the morning it's a dawn of a new day ♪ >> robin. >> we got nothing but love for you, baby. >> we love robin. >> you inspire me every day. >> and all of us. >> at "gma." >> love you, baby. >> all right. >> and you look sexy every morning. >> everybody. >> with power to be present. >> and we love what you do best. >> and say nothing yet. >> you're a big part of the abc family. >> so, we got a toast to -- >> the prettiest thing on tv. ♪ early in the morning it's a dawn of a new day ♪ >> "gma." and the best way. >> robin. >> it's robin. >> without, building the future, with you. >> get it started. >> we love you. >> robin roberts. >> it's robin roberts. >> thank you. >> i had sally-ann now. >> there we go. more of that. >> i share this with ryan and amber, and everyone today, celebrating life. >> a lot more to celebrate. stay with us. good morning. i'm eric thomas with another possible b.a.r.t. strike just 20 days away, the transit agency is already working on a contingency plan. abc 7 news has learned 12 managers who are nonunion certified operators are already going through a refresher course on mayer island. b.a.r.t. says it moved nonworking trains to a facility for this training, but the unions claim the trains are functioning, so it's a violation. b.a.r.t. would use managers to keep some trains running during peak hours if there's a strike. at this point, no talks are scheduled for today. leyla gulen's off this morning. here's a look at the bay area traffic. there's a fire in the concord-pleasant hill area at the north monument offramp. the smoke is visible from southbound 680. and that's causing a slowdown there. there's no details on the cause. but could be a problem, so keep that in mind. outside, san mateo bridge, take a look at traffic there. moving right along friday-like. meteorologist mike nic good morning. big story during the daylight hours, 7 to 12 degrees cooler than yesterday. we have some drizzle coming in. and look at this, some rain coming in during the overnight hours. the drizzle during the evening hours will be mainly along the coast, san francisco and up into the north bay. once that chance of light rain passes overnight, we have some scattered showers tomorrow in your accuweather seven-day forecast. it will be ♪ early in the morning it's a dawn of a new day ♪ ♪ new hopes new dreams new ways ♪ no, let it play. let it play. >> we can leave it on. >> what a beautiful morning. a beautiful day. >> remember? >> that's right. you got to join india.arie, with the song you wrote. >> that was after my first battle with cancer. >> it was a beautiful day to have you back. and it's a beautiful day today. day one today, everybody. >> i love that. >> thank god d.j. kiss is here to spin us into that day. all of robin's favorites because it is her first birthday. day one. exactly one year ago since you had that bone marrow transplant. sally-ann got in there and stayed in there. >> hallelujah. >> and away we go. a very fitting bash planned. we're going to kick it off. we can't kick it off without a little cake. >> a birthday cake. >> what do you say? we roll out -- do we have a cake? bring in the cake. >> oh. >> oh. michael. ♪ happy birthday, dear robin >> thank you. thank you. oh, wow. michael. >> a ton of other people you know here, too. >> i'm a big girl now. >> this is great. i thank you. this is so sweet for you to take time. you're a little busy. you have a day job, too. >> i have to go to work. but i'm not leaving without a piece of cake. i know it's early in the morning. but it's a birthday. >> that is beautiful. >> i think it's going to be my favorite. could it be? oh. you're a big boy. let me get you some. i'll get you a piece. we know you have to get on your way. a nice slice of red velvet cake for michael strahan. >> oh. >> thank you, michael. >> see you in 30 minutes. >> this is a wonderful -- a wonderful, wonderful -- barbara, jane, ben, you came in on the red-eye. that's why he has the glasses on. derek, tom, just everyone here, surrounding us, you loved me through it. this is nancy, the one that tried to sell my car. i just want to thank everybody. thank you for this wonderful moment. >> we feel blessed to be a part of today. and you're celebrating it in a way you do by giving back. that's one of the things you want to celebrate today. all year long, we've been talking about be the match. and encouraging people to join the bone marrow registry. and 65,000 people have signed up, thanks to your efforts. more is coming right now. robin is launching a brand-new psa. take a look. >> it's my one year birthday. one year since i received the best gift i will ever get. a life-saving marrow transplant from my big sister, sally-ann. and right now, my first and only wish is simple. that you support the be the match marrow registry. if more people are on the registry, there will be more people who can find a marrow match. you have the power to save a life. and make somebody else's wish come true. >> sam and josh, they got your first birthday cake. we have a couple more surprises for you. joining us on the phone, your donor, your sister, sally-ann. such a huge part of this celebration. >> she's the reason for this celebration. sister sally. >> sally-ann, good morning to you. can you hear me? sally-ann, are you there? >> i am here. and i just want to let you know, robin, how much i love you. how much our family loves you. and i'm so very happy that on this day, you are one year old. my baby sister. [ applause ] >> you said it, sally-ann. and we see robin improving every, single day. i know a lot of people want to know, how are you, sally-ann? >> lara, i am doing well. everyone needs to know that to be a donor, it is -- it's like a walk in the park. it is so easy. i had no side effects, no problems whatsoever. and i just want to use this opportunity to tell people out there that there are so many who are waiting for a bone marrow match. and if you can, please join, be the match. and get on the registry. save a life, do what you can to make this world better. and i want to thank abc for being there for my sister, robin. you have been her extended family. i want to thank everyone across the nation who prayed for my sister, who loved my sister and who supported my sister. and i want to -- everything that you've done for robin. >> i said i wasn't going to cry. i said i wasn't going to cry. >> in case you're wondering, this is sally-ann at home, doing all that. this is it. >> one of the greatest things you see all year long, is all the people that have been helped by following this path. >> we have done stories, george. we've seen where people have joined the registry. and we've seen them go and -- sister sally, i'm here sister. and people who are total strangers. and people have to realize, they think because i have a beautiful family and so blessed and we're closer than ever now, all of us, all four children of lawrence and lucimarian roberts, only 30% of a chance that it will be a sibling. so, that means the vast majority of time, you need strangers. you need people who are willing to step up. and sally-ann, the reason she's not here, she's a motivational speaker, in case you didn't guess. she had a commitment today in new orleans. and i just -- i thank you, sister, sally. i thank you for everything. thank you for the gift of life. >> i want to thank god for what he has done in your life, robin. he has literally flipped the script. and my prayer for you, on this, your first birthday, is psalm one and three, that your leaf will never wither, and in all you do, you shall prosper. >> amen. sally-ann, i will see you soon and dorothy and butch and all of the kids. i love you, sally-ann. thank you. have a wonderful, wonderful day. celebration. thank you. >> how about a celebration song. if there's something that you can do at home while you're feeling wonderful like us right now, is get online, get that bethematch kit and send it in. what robin was just pointing out, we're a human family. the match might not come from your brother or your sister or an immediate relative. it might come from someone in another country. it might come from someone that you never even imagined. make sure that you get -- whoever you are, you're a match for somebody. >> we all did it. it's easy. it doesn't hurt. it takes two seconds. you've got to do it. >> and everybody have cake for breakfast. let's do a little bit of weather. it feels so good. let's start with a sunny shot out of seattle, by the way. why not? why not start with a beautiful, sunny picture. and thank you, seattle, for sending it in. park city, utah, a double-rainbow there. it's all good. when that little chill runs from the bottom of your spine at sunday at 4:44 p.m., that's fall. just working its way. >> robin's having such a nice time. >> that's the weather around the na nchs good morning. i'm mike nicco. changing of the guard today. increasing clouds this afternoon. some drizzle along the coast and san francisco to light rain >> be the match registry kit. get them. send them in. send them in. send them in. all that weather was brought to you by honda odyssey. robin? >> thank you, sam. we're going to move this party upstairs after "gma." okay? but also, the real celebration today is tennis great billie jean king. this marks the 40th anniversary of her historic battle of the sexes match with bobby riggs. remember that? 40 years ago. it was back in the news recently, with accusations that riggs threw the match. billie jean fought back. she was relaxed and funny. we're going to have more of it on "this week." i had to ask her a little bit, because i was doing it for you, asking her about what fathers can do when they have little girls like you do. george has two adorable little girls, elliott and harper. what is your message to parents who are raising young women today? >> first of all, usually the father, like george, is their first hero. mom's a shero, but dad's their first hero. i don't know if men realize how important they are to their daughter sometimes. but always tell your girls, like my dad did, that you can do anything. i'm sure george is doing a great job. >> you or george? who is going to go down? you or george stephanopoulos? >> he beat me. i'm not playing that much anymore. >> oh, come on. that can't be it. >> i don't know. >> you have to take george down? >> oh, no. i don't know who would win. i think his children are going to win. >> it goes back to. >> the same thing with you and serena. and you as a mother. having him see a strong mother. it makes all the difference. >> and you, too, buddy. >> billie went on and on. she talks about that moment, her last conversation with bobby riggs. you can see all of it on "this week." >> endlessly fascinating. >> great to spend time with her. coming up, my turn for bringing to breakfast. the perfect person. >> i'm so excited about this. ♪ everybody dancing to d.j. kiss. what a week this has been. and my guest for coming to breakfast, is the perfect guest, given everything we've been talking about today, and celebrating today. he's been called america's best short story writer. he's become an unlikely internet sensation. if you haven't heard of george saunders yet, i hope you get to meet his moving works and listen to his wise words. >> what i regret most in my life are failures of kindness. >> reporter: what a simple thought. be kind. the man giving that advice, george saunders, syracuse university professor, gifted writer. and now, with this graduation speech, an internet superstar. >> do the extent you can, err in the direction of kindness. >> reporter: i was a huge fan of saunders' work. his pose is crystal and packed with empathy. and then came that speech. >> kindness is hard. >> reporter: he gave it in may. a few weeks later, "the new york times" printed it. and then, it took off. viewed more than 1 million times. tweeted, blogs, facebook. suddenly, kindness was hot. my girls are still a few years away from college. but i hope his words resonate with them as much as me. a graceful lesson for life. [ doorbell ] >> there he is right now. welcome, george saunders. [ applause ] >> nice to have you here. >> thank you very much. perfect, george. >> it is. >> you're the man of the hour. >> george is celebrating today, too. this has been an incredible year for you. your book "tenth of december" shoots to the of the best seller list at the beginning of the year. the speech goes viral. we found out yesterday you got nominated for the national book award. >> that's wonderful. >> that's great. >> yeah. >> tell us about the commencement speech. i read that you didn't actually know the power of it from the first reaction. >> no. it was a nice reaction. but you know, as often when you're doing a thing like that, you're focused on the three people asleep. so, it was a nice reaction. and i went home and thought, i'm done. now, i can get through my summer. and a couple months later, it kind of took off. >> it completely blew up. >> where did it spring from? i know you sit down to write it. and there's something crystallizes. what is that? >> in this case, i had done the middle school graduation for our daughter when she was graduating. so, i had that speech in mind. i thought, i'll just crib from that. but i couldn't find it. and so, i thought, well, i'll re-create it from memory. part of it was, i had given a speech similar to a crowd that had both my daughters and my wife and all their friends. it was an intimate, affectionate, really frank speech. that's where it carried over. >> in the speech, you talked about a little boy, i guess in seventh grade. the victim of bullying. josh did this great piece earlier in the show about amber. and you weren't even one of the bullies. but the fact that somehow you didn't do more suffered your entire life. >> i was pretty nice. i tried to be nice to her. when it got too hard, i did what we all do, which is sort of diplomatically withdraw. i wasn't mean at all. but i think maybe the reason it stuck with me is that was the first time i was ever aware of betraying the best part of myself. before that, i was a pretty strong catholic kid and i thought, yeah. i'm like jesus. and then, in that moment, just sort of for reasons of basic self-preservation, i took a step away from that part. and i said, i'll be back in a bit. i'll be back when it gets easy. and then, i think maybe it sticks with you the first time -- a lot of the e-mails i got were, i have one in my life, too. maybe when we do that first little betrayal, it sticks with us. >> i printed out the speech. i have an almost 12-year-old and almost 9-year-old. it resonated with them. it's a life lesson, i think that not only college graduates can take, but everyone. it's just words to live by. >> full of hope. it's easier to get kind as you get older. >> as you get weak. >> kindness is contagious. you smile at somebody on the street, and all of a sudden, they just -- >> it keeps going. >> george, thank you for your great story. >> thank you. >> please read the speech, everybody. coming up, melissa leo is here. warm up your home embracewith fall's finest. share all of your favorite t.j. finds... at a price worth posting. see the real deal. search hashtag maxxinista and see the brands people are scoring. t.j.maxx. registration please. what's this? 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>> i didn't want to do it, quite frankly. it's very dark water. you take people with their children dying or in this case, with them being abducted in a way. and it's some serious water to get into. but denis villeneuve does such an excellent job, the filmmaking is so fine, you really get deeply into this story. so, yes. a gripping thriller from the moment it begins quietly in the woods. >> it's really a film noir, a genre we haven't seen in quite a bit. what you think, is not what is. that's all i'll say. jake gyllenhaal was on the other day. he's phenomenal in the film. hugh jackman is also in it. and jake told me, despite how scary and serious, quite light on the set. >> so much fun making it. denis villeneuve, the director, again, is the captain of the ship, right? and he's just such a loving guy to all of us, made us all feel we were cared about. and you really hear it as you go around and do the press. but every other actor had the same experience. dark water. but safely held by our fearless leader. >> in a nutshell, one word. hugh jackman, jake gyllenhaal, two of the biggest hunks in hollywood. how was it to work with them? >> heaven. what can you say? heaven. >> melissa leo, also heaven. a great role. a great film. 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e-mails. and then the letters comey sent to the hill, one saying we found more e-mails on anthony weiner's laptop that could be pertinent to our investigation, we need to look at those, and then his follow-up letter a few days before the election in which he said, we've done that review and we haven't had anything. hillary clinton herself has said she thinks that first letter in late october changed the course of the election. so, the inspector general is going to look at that and a couple of ancillary things. there have been allegations that an fbi deputy director should have taken himself off part of this case because of some connections to the campaign or his wife's connections to the political -- to politics in virginia. some allegations that an assistant attorney general for legislative affairs passed information along to the clinton campaign, and other employees disclosed nonpublic information. the foeklecal point is the two actions by the fbi director, the letter to the hill in late
october and november. >> thanks so much. former clinton campaign senior adviser joel benenson weighing in on today's news of the inspector general review. here's what he told my colleague katie can tur a few minutes ago. >> the real question here, is it appropriate for the fbi and the fbi watchdog to investigate behavior they think violated fbi practices in the course of conducting investigations and engaging in public conversation about that? i think that's appropriate. no one's trying to get a do-over in the election. that's not going to happen. nobody says it's going to happen. but when public officials abuse or potentially abuse their authority and their office, that investigation -- there's not a statute of limitations that says when the election is over we're not going to go back and look at the behavior of a prosecutor who was advised not to do this 11 days out, who was criticized by former fbi professionals from both parties for doing so, to look into that. >> for more on all this, i want to bring in stanley pottenger,
former civil rights attorney at the department of justice. thank you for coming in in a hurry. i know you had to rush to get here. let's talk about the reaction. we just heard joel benenson. we actually heard from republican congressman jason chaffetz say he supports this investigation. you served at the justice department. first of all, are you surprised the inspector general would get involved or does this seem seem, in your view, an appropriate use of time? >> yes, it's unusual. but the entire episode he's investigating is unusual. the thing pete williams talked about is the thing to keep in mind. are you investigating the substance and the prosecutorial, the answer is no, apparently. or are you talking about how it was handled, the publication of documents. that is appropriate for the i.g., the inspector general to use. apparently, that's what he's going to focus on. >> what he's focused in part on
carefully. i would not be surprised if you find that james comey defends his position pretty effectively. >> the inspector general right now, i don't know if you know him, a man named michael horowitz, started as assistant attorney in new york, moved to the department of justice. many years in doj. in 2012 he becomes the i.g. he's appointed by the president, president obama. it's my understanding, is it a ten-year term for the inspector general? i think that's right. >> it may be. i know there's a ten-year term for the director of the fbi. typically there are very few ten-year terms. this could be. >> we'll check that. my question was going to be, what happens now? so, donald trump, takes office next week. he can replace this inspector general or is he going to continue with this investigation no matter what? >> if he has a ten-year term, he can only be replaced for cause. there's no indication there is cause. if he doesn't have a ten-year term, he will be replaced. the new attorney general,
presumably jeff sessions, will have to decide, does he continue it with the existing staff, shut it down or change it? that's why we have more questions right now than answers. >> in terms of how quickly all of this could play out and whether -- let's assume he stays on this investigation, the inspector general, what he does, what are the possibilities in terms of reprimand, punishment? i mean, what can happen with an i.g. report? >> that's a really good question. the answer is very little because the -- he's investigating the people who actually do the prosecuting. it isn't likely they're going to turn around and prosecute themselves if he recommended there was something. the truth is, i don't think he's looking a prosecutal crime. he's looking as who the department and then presumably the public and press what happened. that means what he's doing is basically a report to the public about what happened, but not something that will involve criminal prosecution. >> joel benenson said last hour that he doesn't think any of
this will impact what happened. i mean, the past is past. the election is over. i want to play some sound, though, if i can, from hillary clinton. this is at a party with donors. she was talking about the impact she believes that comey's letter made right before the elections. take a listen. >>. >> don't take it from me, take it from independent analysts, take it from the trump campaign, take it from nate silver who's point out that swing state voters made their decisions in the final days breaking against me because of the fbi letter from director comey, and nate silver believes, i happen to believe this, that that letter most likely made the difference in the outcome. >> again, this investigation does not look at that. pete williams said it's not going to look at whether everything that happened impacted the election or not. in your view, as former assistant attorney general, do you think it? >> you said the election's over.
apparently it's not over. >> everybody is talking about it. >> until the 20th, news will start to turn to events instead of speculation. don't think it will make much difference. i was sorry she cited nate silver. i like him. i read it. he missed it. he missed this elections. he missed brexit. he doesn't have a record right now that says his polling is hitting the buttons. i'm want sure that helped her make that claim. now, do i make her for making that claim? not at all. you know, she's handling this as well as she can having lost a -- surprisingly lost the election n her view. i don't think it will make a difference by the time this is over. >> in terms of the new investigation? >> yeah. i think we'll learn something more but we have this big flip-flop. you remember in the summer everyone was singing the praises of jim comey because he had exonerated -- >> republicans. >> republicans were mad. >> excuse me, democrats.
democrats were singing praises. >> right. then when he lost, democrats were furious with him. i think the american public understands that to some extent our perspective is warped by the results we want. that's true for both sides, democrats and republicans. >> thank you for your analysis. thank you for coming in quickly, former assistant attorney general. almost promoted you. in the civil rights division of the department of justice. nice to have you. turning now to the current commander in chief, president obama and a parting tribute for vice president joe biden scheduled for this hour. nbc news senior white house correspondent chris jansing is live at the white house. chris, i said the words, so now we can say this is happening, but all day we've been waiting because it seemed like it was a bit of a surprise for joe biden? >> reporter: yeah it's supposed to be a secret, is what we're told. it's hard to imagine how within those walls and given the small number of people who were involved in the planning of this that joe biden doesn't suspect something. already people are gathering there. we are told that those seats are
being reserved for family, for friends. chris dodd, the former senator from connecticut has been spotted. you can bet there will be dignitaries there as well as as well, not the least of whom will be the president, mrs. obama and, of course, vice president biden and his wife jill. this is something that is sort of a story many people have found to be tremendously unexpected. these two men who would seem to be so very different, who came so very close over the course of the last eight years when they have served together. they ran against each other in 2007. generations apart. first-term senator from illinois and a senator for, i think, it was, seven terms, six youngest when he came in in 1972, joe biden was from delaware. he left to be the fourth most senior senator. when he said he would do this. when he said, i'll become your vice president. the only ask he this is i wanted
to be the last guy in the room. he didn't want to be one of those vice presidents who was merely ceremonial. and pretty much, he says, the president kept his word. he relied on him pretty heavily, we're told, for that first term for his foreign policy expertise. he was chairman of the foreign relations committee for a time, he was chairman for a time of the senate judiciary committee. but it's not just policy where we have seen all those pictures of them huddled in the oval office. they have become just really good friends. in fact, the way "time" magazine put it was, the great american broman krechlt. not just a bromance, but the great american bromance. there have been plenty of photos and videos of them, everything from running down the halls of the white house. no one quite knew what they were running to, to some of the most emotional times they've ever had. it was the president who delivered the eulogy at the
funeral of joe biden's son, beau. they were together in the rose garden when joe biden announced he would not run against hillary clinton for president of the united states. a very close friendship, not just between these two men, but between their families as well. they've spent a tremendous amount of personal time together. in is a time for the president to say thank you, to say more about what vie presidece presid meant to him. he had a chance to start that at the farewell address, calling out the scrappy kid from scranton who became delaware's favorite son and drawing who is familiar who follows joe biden, that air gun he gave in that moment, but we're expecting a tribute and an emotional time for everyone who was involved, as we have seen many members of the white house staff and the president and first lady, vice president and dr. jill biden as well acknowledging that it's
become much more emotional to them as their last days near. >> chris, if anyone saw that andrea mitchell interview a couple hours ago on her program, the emotion was right there, as joe biden -- she spoke with joe biden and the vice president expressed his love, he called it love, for president obama. again, what we're waiting for right now is we think a surprise for the vice president. although hard to know if he really could -- if it could be kept quiet in the white house. but it is president obama who will be basically hosting a farewell for vice president biden. if i can ask, we know a little bit -- i know a little bit has been reported about joe biden's next move and his plans after the white house, after being vice president. i read he'll be working with a couple universities. what more do we know? >> reporter: he said he's been made a lot of different ofrsz. it's interesting. he seems to be in the same head space as a lot of the senior staff. i know people don't necessarily
believe this, that the president, the first lady, the vice president, all these members of the senior staff, jill biden as well, haven't had a tremendous amount of time to lay down in stone exactly what they're going to do. obviously, when you have come from this stage, the world is your oyster. joe biden is very open about this, his goal for many, many years, for decades, really, was to become president of the united states. that does seem to be behind him at age 73 now, but he is going to do some teaching. as he and others have said, they're going to do a little bit of sleeping. something they are very much looking forward to do. spending time with his family. you know, he did go back -- throw himself back into work after the death of his son, beau. he was out for a while but has been really key for a lot of the issues that have come up in this last year or so of this administration. he's continued to work very hard.
so, there's some time for him to spend with his family, with jill biden. you know, when you think about where he came from, again, you know, for somebody with a long career in the senate and how different they were, somebody with that experience coming into politics as opposed to barack obama, who comparatively was a relative newcomer and people who seemed to have very different approaches to things. the fact they have become so close, i would not rule out -- i've had some conversations about this, but i would not rule out the possibility you will see him and barack obama working together on some of the initiatives that eventually are decided upon by this president, where he wants to have influence moving forward. it's not as if a key is going to turn, another family will move into the white house and these folks are going to scatter to the wind. many of the senior officials will continue to work with obama, either on private staff or as part of his library
foundation. those things haven't been announced yet but they will happen. i think there's going to be a long time for joe biden to continue in some way in a different kind of public service, kate. >> chris, stay there. don't move. i want to bring in also lynn sweet, washington bureau chief at the chicago sun "times," that being the president's sort of adopted hometown newspaper. nice to see you. how are you? >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. as we wait and look at this room where we expect the president to come out, and we're not quite sure what to expect, but we have been told by the pool note that it will be in honor of joe biden. talk about -- lynn, talk about their relationship and talk about what you think we might hear out of the president. >> well, the relationship really started in iowa when they were running against each other in that democratic primary. and it was not a hard decision in the end for the obama team to select biden as vice
presidential candidate. the announcement was made in springfield, illinois, where obama had kicked off his campaign. and the relationship not only between the president and vice president, but between dr. jill biden and first lady michelle obama has also rypiened through the years, too. they've worked on their joining forces initiative. i'm sure they will chris kroris all four of them, throughout their lives. not only with biden with his cancer moonwalk and the various enterprises. i would bet there will be a lot of humor, a little ribbing, a little, you know, this isn't a towel snap sort of joking, but those two -- right, chris, they have a little bit of a schtick when they're together? >> chris, we haven't gotten any word on timing. we were told 3:00. but there was a lot of secrecy around this whole event. >> reporter: then we got 15
minutes late. i don't know what's going on behind the scenes. i keep checking my iphone. there is this sort of ribbing that goes on. when you look at some of the memes of them together, the pictures of them together, there are a lot of pictures that pete sousa and other white house photographers have taken where it seems like they're holding hands, where they're laughing. they love to laugh together. they've had a lot of light moments ago. and they're also -- both can, as we've seen, you mentioned the andrea mitchell interview with vice president biden and the president in chicago, they can also get emotional. we'll watch for that. >> very clearly, you know, the yin and yang, mr. cool and mr. emotional, that's been fascinating to see how that goes because joe biden is someone who wraps someone he barely knows into a bear hug. when you think of it, we couldn't have -- we couldn't have done a formula of two men
who have gotten along better. i think the age difference has helped, too. i think the idea that biden knows what it takes to run for president and he knows the senate and he knows foreign policy. so, he came in with the skill set, very helpful to the president. >> thank you, both, for waiting with us here. i apologize. i thought my mike was down and i was speaking over you guys. apologies for that. i want to take a quick break, ask lynn and chris jansing to stand by with us. the white house running a little behind schedule. we're waiting for this big event for joe biden, to honor joe biden, being led, we understand, by president obama. so, as we wait for that, we'll take a break. want to bring you one little piece of news before we go to break. the senate, the full senate has just voted to allow a waiver for mattis, general mattis, who has now been nominated, of course, for department of defense secretary. he had to get a waiver because it's so recently he left the military, the senate had to approve of him having the
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so, let me first ask, any reaction at all from the trump cache ca camp to this? >> nothing yet. i just checked his twitter feed during the break sure. wouldn't be surprised if he would react later today. we reached out to transition officials and yet to hear from them. we'll pass that on as soon as we get it. bottom line, in the waning weeks before the election, before this case was, in effect, revisited by the fbi, before that announcement on october 28th, donald trump basically said he wants to investigate the investigation. he called it collusion and corruption of the highest order. said it was a disgrace. of course, his position changed late in october. i was with him just as that announcement was made. he was in manchester, new hampshire, at the time. it was almost as if the cork on a bottle of champagne just popped. the room went nuts when he said it. he started his remarks saying there was critical breaking news he wanted to announce. in the days, he's part of the way he recast his view of fbi
director james comey. take a listen. >> i have to give the fbi credit. that was so bad what happened originally. it took guts for director comey to make the move that he made in light of the kind of opposition he had where they're trying to protect her from criminal prosecution. you know that. it took a lot of guts. i really disagreed with him. i was not his fan. i tell you what, he brought back his reputation. he brought it back. he's got to hang tough because there's a lot of -- a lot of people want him to do the wrong thing. what he did was the right thing. >> bottom line is we've heard nothing new from donald trump about the inspector general from the doj saying they're going to open up a review into the handling of this situation here. what's notable is in the days after he was elected, donald trump on "60 minutes" and elsewhere was asked whether or
not he thought james comey should keep that position, whether he would ask him to resign his position as director of fbi and he said he hadn't made up his mind yet on that issue. >> pete alexander following that for us. thank you so much. president-elect trump's pick for cia director, mike pompeo, was on the hill today for his confirmation hearing. one of three hearings that happened today. nbc news intelligence reporter joins us for more on that. we had simultaneously three hearings going on. what were the fireworks? what were the headlines out of pompeo? >> pompeo was very polished. kind of a love fest. he's a former trial lawyer, former army officer. he did very well. but he, without hesitation, endorsed the findings by the u.s. intelligence community that russia was behind the hacking, which trump has had trouble doing, president-elect trump. and he said that if ordered to engage in torture, he would refuse such an order. he's one of several nominees who
have said that, even though donald trump during the campaign talked about wanting to waterboard. none of the people who work for him say that's legal. >> that's interesting. potentially a split with his own boss. >> exactly. >> in terms of other headlines out of it or anything -- i moon, you said it was -- it went fairly well for him. is there a sense this committee will approve him or was there any glaring, obvious senator saying, i've got concerns? >> no, nobody expressing concerns about his nomination. he was asked about this dossier that everyone's asking about. you know, unverified information damaging to donald trump. if there was something worth investigating, would he follow those leads? would the cia under mike pompeo investigate those things? he promised, yes, they would. >> thank you so much. appreciate it. we're continuing to wait that -- that shot in the bottom right corner of your screen is the white house. that is the state dining room. that's where we expect president obama, we expected him about 15
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could have defeated donald trump. could joe biden have defeated donald trump? >> oh, i don't know. i don't know. i don't want to speculate on that. >> reporter: in your heart of hearts, the criticism is there was a lack of an economic message. that's your ballpark. pennsylvania, the rust belt. >> look, i don't -- >> reporter: regrets? >> no, no. look, i -- you're -- i'm about to hurt your reputation, you're a friend. but i know my family. you know of my relationships with my family. and i just wasn't prepared to do it after i lost my son. and so, i -- i have no regret in the sense that did i make the wrong decision. i made the right decision. and but do i regret that my point of view is not going to be reflected in the next administration because we have mr. trump? yeah, i do regret that. >> one of the big issues is, he said, drain the swamp. now, he is -- yesterday he
repeated that he is not going to release his taxes ever and says he doesn't need a blind trust. he's going to just turn it over to the sons. has he done enough, the government of ethics, which is nonpartisan, says what he's done is meaningless. >> i don't think he's done enough and he may sink in the swamp. if you don't drain it, you sink in it. look -- >> reporter: look, you're one of the -- with all due respects, sir, one of the poorest guy to ever emerge, got a house, i don't know what other assets you have. can you -- he said he could run his business as well as run the government. the laws -- >> no doubt that he could, but you shouldn't run both. are you going to be president or are you going to be a businessman? you don't do both. he ran for the most coveted
office in the world. the most important office in the world. the thing that the american public looks to most for their security, opportunity, guarantees, focus on your job. that's the job. i found it bizarre to talk about, well, i could have made a $2 billion deal, i could have done both, but i decided not to. as if you're doing me a favor -- mean, the country a favor. i just think it's -- look, this is a place where the public's going to decide whether or not the failure to divest, the failure to meet what were considered to be the basic minimum ethical standards of disclosure, and if the public turns around and 50% say, no problem, or if 80% say, this is a big problem, that's the only thing that will alter the outcome. >> andrea mitchell joins me now.
andre andrea, congratulations. it covered so much ground, i don't know where to begin, as we wait for this event to start at the white house. i thought some of the most touching moments of the interview was towards the end when you asked him to reflect back on his career and how he got started. and you know, the terrible hardship he suffered as he was starting his senate career. >> the fact when he start his senate career, he had not been sworn in. when his wife and child were killed in a car crash, his two boys were injured as toddlers, and he was bereft, deciding to stay home with his children in delaware and not be sworn in. he said he was surrounded by the support of republican and democratic leaders, mike mansfield was one, i know, who persuaded him he had to do this and his sister, frankly, stepped in and mothered the children and he commuted for his entire career, commuting daily back to delaware, you know, the amtrak senator. but the fact is, this is a long
career and one with a lot of ups and downs, and obviously the tragedy of beau biden. he said he had no regrets about the decision not to run for president. the fact was he knew with his family that that was the right decision for him at the time. he wouldn't discuss whether he could have defeated donald trump as president obama opined that he could have defeated trump. obviously, a reflection on hillary clinton. he wasn't going to go there. but he did talk a lot, defending the intelligence community, saying that what they had been told by the intelligence community was that they included that basically unvetted smear campaign, the opposition research, the two-page synopsis of that as a separate item in the briefing materials for both the president, the vice president and also for donald trump, controversily, that they did it -- they told -- he said, we asked them, why did they do it? i'm not sure if you played that part of it. he said they told them that they thought they would have been derelict in their duties since
it was in the press, bei ining circulated. a lot of people in washington had seen it, as well as abroad. there could be impacts on foreign policy if that information came out unvetted. >> we did not have a chance to air that part of it just now. to me, that sounded like some of the most newsy part of the interview, andrea, because we hadn't had anyone plain why that wasn't included in the briefing to begin with. >> i think that's likely what general clapper, what the dni clapper said to donald trump last night in that conversation. >> right. let me ask about his future. and this idea of a cancer moonshot. i know you asked him about that. what's your sense -- is he going to ease into retirement and dabble into that or is he full -- is he going to be working full overtime on that? >> he's all in. he said he is going to be doing foreign policy at the university
of pennsylvania. there hasn't been a formal announcement but it was overheard saying that on c-span and teaching at university of delaware, his alma mater. he has a lot to look forward to. it is the end of this chapter of public service at his age. you saw the younger generation, cory can booker in what he did at an unprecedented way, a lot of people in washington are saying that's the opening of of the 2020 democratic primary campaign. so, you've got the next generation already looking at what comes next. but there is going to be a lot more from joe biden. as from president obama, he said, i'm going to be with you every day. i'll be with you as citizen in his farewell address. i asked him how president obama had described joe biden as his brother and he said, i don't just like the guy, i love the guy. we are family. and then he said that michelle obama is the finest first lady
in american history. now, there's obviously -- you know, he said, we've had a lot of fine first ladies but she is the greatest one in history, which obviously that is a reflection on the other first lady who just ran for president. >> as we watch this room, i can't help but wondering what was happening behind closed doors because this was supposed to be a surprise that was supposed to happen about 40 minutes. the white house state dining room where we think we'll see president obama come out and deliver some kind of tribute to joe biden. as we wait, if we have a couple more minutes because we haven't gotten any guidance from the white house, can i ask you about the news breaking. about the inspector general who says he's going to launch an investigation into parts of the way that the clinton e-mail investigation was handled by the fbi and by the department of justice. you covered the clinton campaign. we've had a couple of clinton former aides on with us saying
they welcome this decision. they must be elated that at least someone's looking at what happened. >> elated but, of course, there's still a lot of anger and resentment. they, of course, hillary and bill clinton do blame fbi director james comey for the timing of that letter, both letters. the one reopening the issue 11 days before the election and the one two days before the election, clearing her. not really reopening the investigation. in fact, it was technically never reopened. just reopening the issue. and they do blame him. but this is also going to be looking into what loretta lynch did with bill clinton and trying to clear up that 35-minute conversation on a plane in phoenix. she regrets it. she thought it was going to be a hello. once bill clinton sat down, they claim about golf and grandchildren, nobody substantive, it did mean she was recusing himself, taking herself out of the operational decision-making about the clinton investigation.
that gave james comey a great deal more prominence, leverage, decision-making. all of this will be looked at by the independent watchdog, the i.g. depending on the findings, and obviously it's too soon to discuss what the findings r but nothing was going to change the election. that's a done deal. is there are legal implications and ethical implications and there could be a slap on the wrist if anyone behaved badly or even more strongly if there is something behind the scenes that we don't know about. but this would be the first inquiry into what happened. for the clintons to be blaming comey and all of that is controversial because there's a lot of other issues out there. other democrats saying, you can't pin it on just one thing. was it vladimir putin? was it wikileaks? you know, the hacking. was it original the decision to have a private server, which clouded the first months of her campaign and then all the way
through? her response to that decision rather than dealing with it quickly and not apologizing from march until september. we didn't hear her say she was sorry about it. so, all of that could have had an impact, the lack of an economic message, some have said, the failure to go to wisconsin, failure to campaign more aggressively in other parts of michigan and in pennsylvania. other decisions that they made, polling and speechwriting decisions, spending so much time on debate preparation rather than on retail politics. the fact that the news media, as joe biden said to me today, focused so intensively on things that sounded a lot more exciting, like, you know, whether someone had been groped rather than on hillary clinton's college tuition plan, you know, the failure to cover issues substantively in a lot of media, the access that donald trump had during the primaries to, you know, live coverage of his rallies that other candidates
didn't can, so many factors went into, it i don't think we'll know what influenced the campaign. >> andrea mitchell on such a busy hat. i appreciate that. we got word while andrea was talking, we got word from the white house that any minute president obama is expected to appear in that room. we were going to try to fit in a commercial, but we're not going to do that because we're afraid we'll miss it if we go to break. sasha and malia, obama, i understand, just walked in and have been seated in the room. we believe michelle obama will be there as well as dr. jill biden. again, this, if you're just joining us, is billed as a tribute to joe biden, led by the president. we have been guided earlier that this might be a surprise for joe biden. we're not quite sure what we're going to see here, but that makes it even more fun. chris jansing remains with us on the white house lawn. chris, if we see the president coming, we'll pause.
any guidance at all about why today and what this marks? >> reporter: no. we asked the question repeatedly, but clearly this is something that is highly unusual but really speaks to the relationship between these two men that is far beyond professional but personal. the fact sasha and malia are there. they don't do a lot of public events. they've become friendly not just with the bidens but their children and grandchildren. when they talk about family, they mean it. and thunk aboink about in the f his farewell speech in chicago on tuesday, the president mentioned only by name his immediate family and joe biden. think about the moments when you -- think about that iconic picture in the situation room when osama bin laden was gotten, who was sitting next to the president of the united states, joe biden. so, this tribute to him is something special. we don't know that -- obviously, he knows there is something going to happen. maybe it is something within
this event, we were speculating s there some sort of special award that could be given to him. will there be surprises in terms of the people who are there. i can tell you this white house has kept a very tight lid on it. >> you were mentioning -- lynn sweet it-s with us in washington but she's with "the chicago tribune" -- >> "sun-times". >> forgive me. we'll talk with you right after the event. let's observe what happens here. [ applause ] >> ladies and gentlemen, the president and vice president of the united states. [ applause ]
[ applause ] [ applause ] >> don't want to embarrass the guy.
welcome to the white house, everybody. as i have already delivered my farewell address, i will try to be relatively brief. but i just wanted get some folks together to pay tribute to somebody who has not only been by my side for the duration of this amazing journey but somebody who has devoted his entire professional life to service to this country. the best vice president america has ever had, mr. joe biden. [ applause ] >> this also gives the internet one last chance to talk about our bromance. [ laughter ]
>> this has been quite a ride. it was eight and a half years ago that i chose joe to be my vice president. >> this is somebody -- the people of delaware sent to the senate as quickly as they possibly could. elected at age 29. for more than a dozen years apiece, he served as chair or ranking member of the judiciary and foreign relations committees. domestically championed landmark legislation to make our communities safer, to protect our women from violence.
internationally his wisdom and capacity to build relationships has shaped our nation's response to the fall of the berlin wall and the iron curtain. to counter-terrorism, iraq, afghanistan. and for the past eight years he could not have been a more devoted or effective partner in the progress that we have made. he fought to make college more affordable and revitalize american manufacturing as the head of our middle-class task force. he suited up for our cancer moon shot, giving home to millions of americans touched by this disease. he led our efforts to combat gun violence, and he rooted out any possible misappropriations that might have occurred, and as a consequence, the recovery act worked as well as just about any large-scale stimulus project has ever worked in this country.
he visited college after college and made friends with lady gaga for our "it's on us" campaign against campus sexual assault. when the pope visited joe was even kind enough to let me talk to the holiness as well. [ laughter ] behind the scenes, joe's candid, honest counsel has made me a better president and a better commander in chief. from the situation room to our weekly lunches to our huddles after everybody else has cleared out of the room, he has been unafraid to give it to me straight, even if we disagree. in fact, especially when we disagree. and all of this makes him, i believe, the finest vice president we have ever seen. and i also think he has been a lion of american history. the best part is, he is nowhere close to finished. in the years ahead, as a
citizen, he will continue to build on that legacy internationally and domestically. he has got a voice of vision and reason and optimism and love for people, and we're going to need that spirit and that vision as we continue to try to make our world safer, and to make sure that everybody has got a fair shot in this country. so, all told, that's a pretty remarkable legacy. an amazing career in public service. it is, as joe once said, a big deal. [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> it is! [ applause ] >> but, we all know that, on its own, his work, this list of
accomplishments, the amazing resume, does not capture of the full measure of joe biden. i have not mentioned amtrak yet or aviators, literally. [ laughter ] >> folks don't just feel like they know joe the politician, they feel like they know the person. what makes him laugh, what he believes, what he cares about, where he came from. pretty much every time he speaks, he treats us to some wisdom from the nuns who have taught him in grade school or an old senate colleague, but of course most frequently cited, catherine and joseph sr., his mom and dad. no one is better than you, but you're better than nobody! bravery resides in every heart and yours is fierce and clear.
when you get knocked down, joey, get up! get up! [ laughter ] get up! [ applause ] that's where he got those broad shoulders and that biden heart. through his life, through trial after trial, he has never once forgotten the values and the moral fiber that made him who he is. that's what steels his faith in god and in america and in his friends and in all of us. when joe talks to auto workers whose livelihoods he helped save we hear the son of a man who once knew the pain of telling his kids he lost his job. when joe talks about hope and opportunity for our children, we heard the father who rode the
rails home every night to talk his kids into bed. when he sticks up for the little guy we hear the young boy who stood in front of the mirror. studying the muscles in his face determined to advantavanquish t stutter. we hear a kindred spirit, another father of an american veteran, someone whose faith has been tested and has been forced to wander through the darkness himself and who knows who to lean on to find the light. so that's joe biden, a resilient and loyal and humble servant. and a patriot. but most of all a family man. starts with jill. captain of the vice squad. [ laughter ] >> the -- only the second lady in our history to keep her regular day job. [ cheers and applause ]
>> jill says teaching isn't what she does, it's who she is. a few days after joe and i were inaugurated in 2009 she was back in the classroom teaching. that's why, when our administration worked to strengthen community colleges, we looked to jill to lead the way. she has also travelled the world to boost education and empowerment for women, and as a blue star mom, her work with michelle to honor our military families will go down in history as one of the most lasting and powerful efforts of this administration. of course, like joe, jill's work is only part of the story. she just seems to walk this earth so lightly, spreads her joy so freely. she reminds us that, although we
are in a serious business, we don't have to take ourselves too seriously. she is quick with a laugh or practical joke, disguising herself as a server at a party she once hosted to lighten the mood. she once hid in the overhead compartment of air force two to scare the senior staff. [ laughter ] >> because why not! she seems to have a sixth sense of when to send a note of encouragement to a friend or a staffer, a simple thank you or a box of macaroons. she is one of the best, most genuine people i've met not just in politics but in my entire life. she is grounded. generous, caring and funny. that's why joe is proud to introduce himself as jill biden's husband. to see them together is to see what real love looks like. through thick and thin, good times and bad. it's an all-american love story.
comes in mark meadows and xerox may live when he thinks. a follow-up the stories i hear. >> potentially dozens of criminal cases that languished. >> shannon: we will talk to a former dea agent in the middle of investigations. said the obama administration undermining critical task force to target hezbollah as a president pursued a nuclear deal with iran. hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i'm shannon bream in washington. newsnight: fox news confirming that the justice department is opened a new inquiry into the clinton foundation. fbi agents in little rock, arkansas, taking the lead, focusing on one of the clinton foundation engaged and pay to play politics and other illegal activities while hillary clinton was secretary of state. fox news has also learned investigators are looking into whether the clinton foundation
violated tax laws. also new details tonight on special counsel robert special counsel robert mueller's inquiry into president trump firing a former fbi director. former chief of staff reince priebus has handwritten notes about how president trump called comey to urge him to say he was not under investigation. also went to lengths to prevent jeff sessions from recusing himself. we'll have more with congressman mike meadows, calling on sessions to resign among the growing number of leaks like it appears "the new york times" is gone. more news on the book "fire and fury," featuring explosive statements from steve bannon. bannon talking about running for president himself. and much more. it appears to be too much for his allies. one g.o.p. donor and influencer appears to be breaking with the antiestablishment star of the g.o.p. kevin corke is working late. >> great to be with you. yesterday, the president had
died out. any talk of imitating the clintons are hillary clinton. >> both things can be true. you would know this. we have probably 98, 97 districts, federal district court to the united states. each of them has united states attorney. the one in the eastern district of arkansas has been a hotbed of this kind of stuff for decades. where the clintons have been and where the clintons i'm gone, controversy and scandal has always followed. the u.s. attorney out there is named cody highland, i believe his name is. he's a mike huckabee veteran. he was working for mike huckabee when the clinton machine was trying to take him out as governor. old blood feud stuff. deep down arkansas delta business. what you see is this u.s. attorney's office, this fbi field office has the -- whatever the justice department wants to do our base it has to be
approved in washington, but if this prosecutor out in little rock wants to take good look at with the clintons between what was going on, i don't think there's probably much to stop it. you and you think it goes anywhere? we been told before there's nothing to it. there's no smoke, no fire. >> if you love america and i'm told reliably you do, even though you beat me at trivia today. >> shannon: we are not going to talk about it. too soon. >> still smarting. it's reasonable to want complete answers about what went on with the trump campaign and also complete answers about how the clinton machine, the operation clinton incorporated, how it operated, what he did, what was going on. we remember peter schweizer's book. "the new york times" reported on it, it had a lot of stinky stuff in it. if people thought they were paying for favors from the secretary of state when she was
in office, that something we ought to want to know about and we should be able to hold those two thoughts and our minds concurrently. >> shannon: "the daily beast" is reporting the doj, they have information and are reopening a look into hillary clinton's email heard we've seen and judicial watch reported that they have pressed for information and have uncovered there were more classified information, documents, emails, on anthony weiner's laptop. his wife huma abedin, close confidant of the clintons. sounds like there may be some interesting reopening, whether she mishandled classified information. >> may be, there is a rabbit trail here. this has more thickets around the maybe the other one, these questions been explored. people think james comey did it wrong. people think the fbi did it wrong. we have two or three investigations into the investigation of the investigation. presumably we will get to some clarity on this but that will come as one unit, not some specific pull aside about huma abedin. >> shannon: i want to talk
about the quotes and speculation in the michael wolff book. it's gotten ugly between bannon and the president. they were once very, very tight. although the presidencies to be downplaying that at this point. >> [laughs] accurate. steve and i will classify that as a go far. michael wolff, author of this. he tweets you can buy it and read it tomorrow. threaten us with letters and losses but your drawing more attention to it. in the copy we've gotten, it bannon was telling people something else. he steve bannon was going to run for president in 2020. he talked about the present was negative peach, resigned or barely make it your winter. >> is much as it pains me to spend any of their syllable my life discussing steve bannon's
theses about power, he was talking if trump didn't runner wasn't running, he was going to challenge trump. the bannon stuff here is basically a comeuppance for a guy who over stated, hyped his own game, with the help of the press who loved to make him into this svengali behind trump in controlling trump. there had to be more to it. it could just be red hats and rallies. the need to be some intellectua intellectual, and bannon audition for that part and was granted that by the press and now he goes kablooey. the interesting stuff isn't about steve bannon. it's about how that white house worked in the opening months and what it means about john kelly, what it means about the level of confidence the staff has in the president. i will say, after all the allegations in the book, donald trump needs to give a real interview or hold a real press conference or do something soon to demonstrate to voters that the allegations in this book that he is senile or
incompetent are untrue. he needs to get out and lay those dressed quickly or it will stick. >> shannon: there's always an open invitation for them to come. interview with us on fox news at night. it can happen. we will make it happen. good to see you. you may not have heard but there's good economic news happening. dow jones industrial average hitting its seven 1,000-point milestone closing above 25,000 for the first time. this began after president since president trump took office. a new report says private sector job creation surged, companies they will give workers pay raises. president trump weighing in on twitter saying:
for days and to the new year their showdowns brewing in washington. a battle looming over immigration reform and democrats continue to insist on a daca deal before funding the government. the trump administration opening up new political battle fronts with plans to expand offshore drilling and ramp up enforcement of marijuana laws. >> with a rapid pace of initiatives and controversies, the trump administration is keeping all monikers on their toes while entering the democrats and even a few republicans are down right angry. first off, as you said, legislatively is daca. mr. trump invited a handful of republicans, john cornyn of texas and tom cotton of arkansas and lindsey graham of south carolina show at houston health crafton immigration policy.
>> any legislation on daca must secure the border, the wall, give immigration officers the resources they need to stop illegal immigration and also to stop these overstates and crucially the legislation must end chain migration. >> many democrats say they can't support such an immigration bill, both the house and senate will need some democrat votes before they can get this thing across the finish line. separately today the department of interior announced plans to open up 90% of the u.s. outer continental shelf to oil and gas leases. most of the florida congressional delegation including republicans and other atlantic state lawmakers are deeply opposed, fearing what could happen to tourism if an accident happens. tweeting "the plan is extremely alarming and unacceptable." attorney general jeff sessions rescinding obama euro marijuana enforcement guidelines.
sessions is leaving it up to federal prosecutors and states allow legal pot sales with her to crack down on the trade. advocates who witness the benefits of medical marijuana and states' rights conservatives are livid at this decision. colorado republican senator cory gardner said sessions promised him during his confirmation hearings he would not interfere with these state decisions. >> i believe what happened today was a traveling of colorado's rights, its voters, and that's why i will be putting a hold on everything the nomination from the department of justice. until attorney general jeff sessions loads up to the commitment that he made me and my confirmation, preconfirmation meeting with him. >> sessions it's also catching flak from conservatives on a different issue. mark margo's writing that sessions has no control over the premier law enforcement agency in the world. that the time for a new attorney general is now.
stay on all right. doug mckelway, thank you very much. republicans will control the house of delegates in virginia and they have got the look of the draw to thank for it literally. it all came down to a single contested state host race which had flip-flopped back-and-forth after recount and raider trickle razor-thin margins. a panel refused to hear shelley "night court"'s arguments. that left it in a tie. state board of elections met today to choose the winner. they pulled a name out of a bowl. david yancey was declared the winner after his name was selected. simonds says she is not ruling out seeking another recount. we will hear from congressman mark meadows in a moment on this call for the attorney general to resign. plus president trump's fitness for office. according to political, lawmakers talk to a psychiatrist who claims he's falling apart.
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listen to this clip from a segment about business in seattle. >> 2018 brought to golden state in line with other west coast dates for marijuana retail shops and products. the even playing field may expand the number who want to buy but could undercut any attempt to make seattle a special destination for pot tourism. an add-on rather than a main attraction. >> a lot of the participants want a count of his tour of some sort to be part of their seattle visit. >> shannon: now i multiple state options. a diverse group of critics worried about so-called marijuana normalization. they are praising sessions for allowing the feds to enforce federal law despite states who decided to do their own thing. former obama administration drug
policy advisors has doj's move will stop the massive infusion of money going to fund pot candy, cookies, ice creams, and other kid friendly edibles. a mom who lost her daughter to a driver high on pot says marijuana is seen as benign all too often. i hope those days are over. former democrat congressman says the memo had been waved around by pot executives for years. searching for legitimacy among investors and banks. it's time to put public health over profits. the public seems divided. states' rights versus doing what they believed to be the right thing. joining us now, mark meadows. we have many things to talk to you about tonight. we'll start here. gray to have you with us. what you make of this? i want to read it more of a statement we got from senator gardner's office. optical reports that the justice department will rescind their current policy on legal marijuana enforcement are extremely alarming. in 2016, president trump said marijuana legalization should be
left up to the states and i agree." what do you think? think of here's what we have inl law. this president has been consistent. he said if there's along the books, let's make sure we do it. just like we are having to deal with daca because we had president obama overreaching on the deferred action, he says it's time for congress to act. i think on this one it really is for congress to rescind the federal law, not an executive agency. cory is a good friend and i understand he is representing his state but there comes a point where you allow states to affect federal policy and set of the other way around, and i think that's troubling. i support attorney general sessions in this move. it really takes effect of congress. now is the time for us to act. if we want to address this issue. >> shannon: other criticisms you have of the attorney genera
attorney general. jim jordan, you wrote a piece and say you are tired of leaks happening. no evidence of collusion in it are leaks all the time from places like "the new york times." we have another piece out tonight where they cite multiple anonymous sources with all kinds of of inside information from the mueller investigation from people either in the white house are briefed on things that happen at the white house. you say it's time for the leaks to stop. if sessions can't address it, there's one final question. one of the time for a new attorney general? sadly it seems the answer is no now. >> no one has lost their job yet. the fbi and doj leak more than a 60-year-old boat. we have more leaks coming out every day. critical importing that we address it but not just that. the attorney general needs to do his job. when he recused himself, where it is his recusal start and sto
stop? there's a big frustration on capitol hill. we have investigated this russian collusion for 16 months. there is no collusion. there is no evidence of collusion and yet here we are in a situation where we know that leaks are happening. we know based on these reports that he have used a dossier in an inappropriate manner. yet we can't get the very documents to have proper oversight. we are tired of stonewalling. i talked to chairman nunes this evening. he's going to get some documents tomorrow. that's a good step in the right direction. but we have seen this before. listen, i've been an oversight for over five years. what happens is they promise you they are going to get it to you. they give it to fully redacted so a page of just blacked out lines. it's time that we get to the bottom of this and it's time that we hold the fbi and doj accountable to the standard they
should be held accountable. >> shannon: we have talked about this. do you think it's a "deep state" problem. are there people in the administration, opponents of the president, who are keeping you from getting the information ine congress is legally entitled to? >> we don't have to look much further than the text messages between peter strzok and lisa page to see some type of bias. whether that carries over into the investigation, we need to look at all the text messages. we need to fully look at that. in my conversations with others, are there people within the higher ranks of doj and the fbi that certainly are not wanting to come forward with some of this information? i believe that's the case. i'm not a conspiracy guy. at the same time, give us the documents. we requested some 15,000 pages of documents. >> shannon: the obstruction, stonewalling, leaks, are you calling on the attorney general to resign? >> i'm calling on him to do his
job. if you will do his job immediately and right away and quit making excuses, you had part of the lead up to this, you had attorney general session saying well, it's not time for special prosecutor. when we see the text messages and emails we've already visited, there seems to be some at least appearance of impropriety. it's time that we actually get to the bottom of it and so he's got a very short fuse from my standpoint. if he can do his job, more power to him. we welcome the information. >> shannon: congressman mark meadows. great to have you. lawmakers questioning president trump's mental health. we're going to tell you what one psychiatrist had to say. president trump street blame for unrest in iran? vice president pence says europe and the u.n. are not doing enough to help people there. stay tuned. former u.n. ambassador
john bolton joins us.
>> when dr. bandy lee finished up more than six teen hours of private meetings, she apparently convinced some it was time to invoke the 25th amendment saying the president was mentally unfit to fulfill the duties of the office. she indicated that getting republicans to sign on would be trickier. dr. lee acknowledges it's unethical for a psychiatrist to diagnose from afar but she believes it's her duty to warn the public about their leaders psychological instability which is why she and 26 of her liberal colleagues wrote the book "the dangerous case of donald trump." the president is compared to an american hitler, showing signs of impulsivity, recklessness and paranoia. here is dr. lee. >> when silence contributes harm to the public health, we have a duty to speak out.
and the duty to warn and the duty to protect is pervasive in our practice. >> not all mental health experts feel that same sense of duty. in fact some say the dangerous case of donald trump is nothing but in fatuous, tawdry tabloid psychiatry. fox's doctor says it's highly unlikely that you are -- saying dr. bandy lee is either an opportunist or a fool. he makes it clear he is not diagnosed her. should be noted the stock market hates uncertainty and instability. today the dow crossed 25,000. >> shannon: it did. joining me now, townhall.com
columnist and radio host derek hunter and leslie leslie marsh. assuming we are mentally healthy enough to have this debate, i want to talk more about this. bandy lee admits she has not met the president. she says "we feel that the russia tweeting is an indication of his falling apart under stress. trump is going to get worse and will become uncontainable within the pressures of the presidency." derek, seems like he's been the same guy we've seen. we've known. ration bold and off-the-cuff. do you think he's changed? >> no. i have been a fan of the apprentice since the apprentice. it's a weird thing and washington, d.c., that no one speaks their mind. i have to give her credit for her willingness to violate the ethics of her profession in
order to sell books. i think a book could be written about the violation of ethics for her profession. spewing she came here in brief people over a two-day period about what would happen. there's been a discussion about the 25th amendment that provides a way for the vice president in the cabinet members to step in if they think the president is unable, incapacitated. to that discussion, alan dershowitz who has not been a conservative ever, says this "the 25th amount would require a major psychotic break. this is hope of reality. if we don't like someone's politics, vote against them. we don't use the system. >> i think it's dangerous to sound like you're making a diagnosis when you haven't actually seen a patient in any area of medicine.
i think it's important for the american people to be aware of what's going on with their leader. it's important for this or any leader to have proper medical treatment. for congress to be briefed by somebody who hasn't seen him, to me is not ethical and quite frankly even know i'm a democrat. i've set up before. you've heard me. this is not how the removal of donald trump happens. this is not how it's going to come about because you don't have the vice president. you don't have the cabinet, the republicans. even the one republican that sat down for the meeting. i think this is a waste of time because this individual has not seen him. having said that though he has some tweets that are very similar to north korea leader who many people think is a wing not. he needs to stop some of that behavior. >> can we talk about -- >> shannon: we know he's not
going to change his behavior. any -- she's not going to change his behavior. he feels like by using twitter, that's why he won. the left knowing it's highly improbable that any this could happen, the 25th amendment et cetera, do you think it's making them feel better to talk about. >> this is further based. you have members coming out and talking about how the president seems unhinged from afar through somatic admits they are violating the ethics of their profession. it really is scared to go crazy, advocating for policies that have failed the world over. the u.k., their national health system, they have canceled nonemergency procedures because their system can't handle it. many members met with dr. lee who had vacates to bring that sort of system here. i would take 180 characters and crazy over a nationwide policy
over 16 of the u.s. economy. >> shannon: leslie, what do you make of derek's assessment that a lot of people just aren't used to plain spoken, straight talking people in d.c. everybody here is a spin doctor. this precedent doesn't do that. is it such a shock? >> no. but i do think that one individual talks about the ability to start a nuclear war which could kill millions of people .. >> if somebody threatens on twitter that my button is bigger than yours and i can press it and it's right here, ts dangerous talk when you are dealing with a very dangerous and unstable leader overseas like we have in kim jong un. that's the type of behavior i think people on my side of the aisle question the stability of with regard to the president. >> shannon: we've got to leave it there. derek and leslie, we will close
this out. thank you both very much. as the death toll rises in iran, president trump's tweets are being blamed for the unrest in the streets of tehran and other cities. north korea testing more missiles. we will tell you where to get the latest reaction from john bolton. ..
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nikki haley requesting a security council meeting on iran. former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. john bolton joins us. this meeting ambassador haley called for. >> it's important to continue the discussion about why the people of iran are rising against the regime. i think that's quite significant. i don't expect any substantive action out of the u.n. i think russia and china will block any meaningful new sanctions. honestly i have to say that our friends in europe haven't exactly stood up on this issue. the discussion will go ahead but i don't see anything coming out of it. >> shannon: the vice president said "the united states has spoken clearly and unequivocall unequivocally. unfortunately many of our european partners as well as the united nations have thus far failed to forcefully speak out on the growing crisis in iran. it's time for them to stand up." who are recalling out?
>> the european union. germany for, france, great britain unfortunately partners in the deal with iran on the nuclear question. it shows the iranian strategy, the obama strategy work. they sucked us into being able to trade and invest with iran. europe sees the possibility of profits. they are blind to what's happening in the streets of iran. i didn't write that article for mike pence but i wish i had because it's exactly the right point to make. >> shannon: what about pakistan? we got word today from the state apartment we are going to freezing substantial security students we get to that country. a lot of talk talk from this administer ration about the fact that they haven't been reliable partners in the fight against terrorism. >> i remember george bush after 9/11, what he said with respect to terrorism. you are either with us or against us. people said it's terrible. you shouldn't hold nations to account. i think it was the right thing to say then and i think
president trump is really going back to that. freezing this assistance i think he is incredibly important to signal to pakistan. we have to remember that in this unstable political environment, civilian government not being all that strong, military in pakistan increasingly infiltrated by radicals. they are a nuclear weapon state. if you push them all the way over to the other side, you risk having those nuclear weapons being dispersed to terrorists who could take them anywhere in the world. that's something we've got to focus on as well. leaning on pakistan, it's about time. >> shannon: looking back on the last demonstration. we are getting confirmation that there's an investigation looking into the clinton foundation, whether there was pay to play, favors done for countries and any connection with bill or hillary clinton. >> i think these questions need to be answered. i am very disturbed. as a justice department alumnus myself, disturbed by the politicization of law enforcement, intelligence.
investigations cut off that should've been allowed to go forward. i believe this investigation which is being conducted by the u.s. attorney's office for arkansas is exactly the right way to do it. you don't need a special counsel. this, i trust the career prosecutors and i think we ought to let it go ahead. there's so many things about the foundation that look like tammany hall. let's see what it looks like. >> shannon: all right, ambassador. great to have your thoughts. massive snowstorm following the east coast from blizzard conditions and bitter winds to coastal flooding in some parts. a bomb cyclone update coming our way. first, next was of interview with a former senior d.a. official at the heart of politico's report that the obama investigation derailed investigation into hezbollah's drug
>> shannon: a bombshell report by politico alleging the obama administration interfered with the federal investigation into how iran backed chair groups hezbollah turn profits on illegal drugs and weapons trafficking. according to the report the previous administration didn't want anything to get in a way of a nuclear deal with tehran. you remember we spoke with the investigative reporter who broke the story. >> federal investigators were watching in gathering evidence of hezbollah sort of transforming itself from a political power and terrorist organization to one that was trafficking in drugs. they were doing it to raise money to help rebuild after the israel war and help in expansion they were doing globally. they gathered evidence, designated a couple dozen super facilitators as people that were connected by this conspiracy but when they tried to delve deeply into the people, they got shot
down. >> shannon: we are bringing you an interview with the former special agent in charge of the dea special operations division quoted extensively in the political report. great to have you with us. i want to read a little bit of what he said. you said there's no doubt my mind now that the focus was the iran deal and our initiative was kind of like a fly the soup. we were like the train that went off the track. at what point did you realize all this until you've you gathered about the millions that hezbollah was laundering even through this country and around the globe, wasn't going to be prosecuted. >> i found it very odd fit in our backyards all over america they were sending used cars back into west africa to sell and the profits of these used cars and drug trafficking money was going to support hezbollah. i found it kind of odd that we didn't have unity of effort to shut it down. i found it odd we didn't have leadership in the administration that would enforce and hold people accountable to bring the
agencies to gather to ensure that we can protect the american public. >> shannon: you were in a meeting with attorney general eric holder who seemed to be interested in this. you were told there would be a follow-up, they would be getting back to you. what happened? >> eric holder was very supportive of the special operations division. i was fortunate to be in charge of that for almost ten years at a most every operation he approved and was supportive. in this particular case, we proved eric holder. he was alarmed by the findings of this particular investigatio investigation. the magnitude of money and drugs moving around the world. eric holder was pretty serious about having follow-up meetings with national security team members and the briefing never happen. it was very strange for me sitting there listening to the attorney general of the united states directing his people to have a meeting to get more information from the dea and our interagency partners about this global trade based money laundering scheme and they weren't interested.
>> shannon: in the meantime the administration is working on a deal with iran over its nukes. josh meyer, who did the political piece, came to this idea that it's possible that's what this is all about. they didn't want to go heavy on hezbollah because they wanted to get the nuke deal done. is that your impression? >> look, i don't have any information on what was going on behind the scenes on the oral new deal. honestly from my perspective you have this magnitude of money and drugs moving through our country and the banks, that should've been something our government enforced full accountability on all the agencies. it didn't happen. we had significant successes. we had tremendous response from the u.s. attorney's office and southern district of new york. we did a $400 million civil seizure on the bank and 30 businesses. we put 30 businesses in this action but there were hundreds
of businesses still operating today. cars going to west africa, car parks are lined up and they are booming. "the wall street journal" article at the end of 2016 talked about how the car parks are exploding all over west africa. they are coming from our backyards. >> shannon: you are saying this is how the money is being laundered. >> it is being laundered. they are supporting hezbollah. they are buying weapons. criminals, terrorists are turning to criminal networks for funding. state sponsorship is down. they need funding to operate, to corrupt government officials. drug trafficking and other criminal activities helping generate hundreds of millions of dollars. the u.n. estimated drug trafficking a few years ago was generating $400 billion a year on the world. terrorists are taking advantage of this opportunity financially. they need the money to operate. >> shannon: i want to let you to reply to a couple obama
administration officials who had -- shot down. she used to be at the state department. we will play her. marie harf. >> the politico stories just false. there is no evidence in the story to backup the allegations. they quote a couple low-level ideological sources who clearly don't like the iran deal. >> low-level sources? i was head of the special operations division for over ten years. 30 agencies, three countries, the nypd. that lady didn't work on the operations. she worked as a bureaucrat in washington talking about policy and stuff, but she wasn't involved day today in the operations. she didn't see what we saw every day on the streets of america and in europe, west africa, and so i have a problem with her referring to the low level sources. the folks that spoke about the story were intricately involved in every aspect of the case.
as a matter of fact, david asher was the expert in the first action against north korea and helped us put together the patriot act in this case to shutdown the international trade based money laundering scheme. >> shannon: thank you for all of your work. thank you for coming in. >> i would just like to say that this particular photo right here is why we were trying to shut this scheme down. >> shannon: we both tweeted out so people know what you won't see these folks at the post office. they have businesses to run. they have passions to pursue. how do they avoid trips to the post office? stamps.com mail letters, ship packages, all the services of the post office right on your computer. get a 4 week trial, plus $100 in extras including postage and a digital scale.
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>> bill: police are saying the suspect is likely behind five explosions in central texas going back to march 2. three died and four seriously injured in the blasts. >> sandra: police warning other package bombs cowl still be out there. >> we don't know where the suspect has spent his last 24 hours and therefore we still need to remain vigilant to ensure that no other packages or devices have been left in the community. so as we go through the day today, we want the community to remain vigilant. we need your community to remain vigilant and if you see something that looks suspicious or out of place or something that gives you concern, call 9-1-1. >> bill: that press conference happened three hours ago and now
other bombs and where they may be because this individual may have by mail or placement put other bombs out there so everyone needs to remain vigilant to make sure they don't pick up a package -- >> reporter: and that is the strongest message we're getting from pretty much every official here. they don't know how many bombs this guy had built. they don't know how many bombs he left in what locations around austin. there remains the possibility that there could be other packages out there. so they do not want anybody to let down their guard at this point. but clearly, the bottom line, bill, this is a good day for austin. >> bill: jonathan, thank you. we'll be back with you. live this morning, jonathan hunt. >> sandra: the suspect's death puts an end to nearly a monthlong horrific stretch that left the city on edge.
the first bomb detonated march 2 killing a 39-year-old man. then it was 10 days later another explosion occurred. this one a package inside a home killing a 17-year-old boy and injuring a woman. >> bill: in the same day across town, another bomb badly injuring a 75-year-old woman and this past sunday, two men seriously injured in a blast triggered by a tripwire. >> sandra: and yesterday a package bound for austin detonating inside a fedex facility outside san antonio while at the same time a suspicious package was found at a fedex terminal near the austin terminal. >> bill: and police tracked him down outside round rock where he detonated a bomb while in his car. with that behind us, what next?
just gave this week was a sign to us they needed more information and tips included. they were plead the community. they were talking to the suspect himself to get him to communicate. to me that was a sign they needed information. they clearly got it when he started to deal with fedex and ran with it quickly. it's a great day for law enforcement in texas. >> bill: what about the two roommates? >> they'll do a meticulous search related to this suspect and look at his communications, the internet, how did he learn this and was anybody aiding and abetting, buying component, helping him in any way that was witting and knowledgeable. >> bill: some believe the amount of activity increased because he
felt under pressure. typically in cases like this is that how it goes? >> these guys are relatively few ib america and i'm not talking about something putting together a rudimentary pipe bomb with black powder but someone building complicated devices. we know from ted kaczynski the unabomber and eric robert rudolph, it looks like a lot of them had a particular inspiration and motivation. yet to be seen what this guy's was. he's a young man. was it just to sew chaos and watch the show? >> bill: we'll come back to you when we get more news out of tch texas. >> sandra: kristin nielsen will be appearing in front of the
committee on election security on a state level. catherine, do we expect the secretary may address the recent events in austin? >> reporter: we expect some lawmakers to have questions nor homeland security secretary. she's been getting regular briefings on the austin bombings and the question will be if they were acting alone or had assistance and they'll have a security homeland security official for the state's voting system. we had the committee announce findings yesterday about their recommendations and one is they want to see federal money go down to the states to have them shore up that security network around the voting system and they announced those findings on the hill yesterday.
>> our desire to be able to fully fund the elections within an individual state but it's a state's responsibility. if there's incentives we can put in place to spur them, it's the people of the states going to their state leaders and saying we want our election to be secure and to be able to take care of it in their own state will be the primary piece. >> reporter: aware of the best practices and equipment available. >> one of our recommendations is we figure out how to aud it and what states get the help when requested. >> reporter: they want to see state systems and have a back-up paper ballot for validation and want to see a threshold established so election interference would be declared a hostile effect allowing the government to take immediate and
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active measures investigation we've seen the power of social media and the data mining used by the platforms, large social media platforms how it can be used and abused. i think it's important we come in and sort that out. i hope we'll hear from all the social media platforms including mr. zuckerberg. >> bill: many calling on mark zuckerberg to testify on the hill after a firm collected data on 50 million facebook users and the social media giant calling it a violation of policy. i want to bring in guy benson a fox news contributor. we're all aware when we're online people are capturing your data information and following your search history and following you. and facebook sells its data to anybody. sounds like they're a general
store so long as you have the money to pay. i'm wondering if cambridge went public and said we were work the clinton foundation, whether or not there'd be calls on the hill. >> i think if there's going to be hearings on the hill with mark zuckerberg called up to testify, and i'm fine with that, there should be investigations into how they were used and how they operate not just in the 2016 campaign but dating back to other campaigns as well. we saw just in the last few days a top obama campaign official from 2012 saying look, we did a lot of this stuff. it's now five, six years ago and some was against facebook's rules and they recognized what we were doing at some point and chided us after the fact saying we like you guys, we're on your side so we let it slide but don't do it again. that's a line of questioning zuckerberg should answer for.
your point is well taken. it would be useful for the american people to understand with more specificity how their information is tracked and used by tech giants. >> bill: for some it may strike them the following way, strike one on russia. now it's big data, big tech. here's the second pitch on how you lost an election a year and a half ago. >> yeah, i think some of this is more excuse making from the democrats. are they happy when their side using it when they were micro targeting voters and was lauded as genius and cbs news reporting evidently the data gathered by this particular firm was never accessed and used by the trump campaign. there's one thing to focus in
on. >> bill: small details. i'm being sarcastic. >> i'm with you on the sarcasm. it should matter. it's a legitimate story. i don't think it's the trump angle people in the media want it to be. what i read and based on everything i'm gathering about this story, what does concern me is the possibility that this firm, cambridge, sort of defrauded people in terms of what they thought the information would be used for. people were told it was for purely academic research and ended up in the hand of a political organization. >> bill: maybe in the end that's the story that comes from this. facebook's statement if the data exists it would be a violation of policy. and apparently there was an agreement to destroy the data but we don't know how many of these companies have done a
personality test and what they do with the data after 2015. tracking that down's going to take a long time. final point here, we haven't heard from zuckerberg. i imagine he's getting ready to do a long post on facebook and that will explain what he knows. last statement. we have to run. >> there'll be hostile tough questions from both sides of the aisle and he's one of the most powerful people in the world, frankly. he deserves some scrutiny. show up, answer questions and if there are abuses, fix them. >> bill: guy benson in washington. nice to see you. >> you too. >> sandra: authorities still trying to piece together the motive behind the deadly austin bombings. the multiple bombings in the past weeks. this as officials warn other suspicious packages could be out there. a former police chief is here to weigh in next. plus, how a quick-thinking security officer at a school stopped a gunman and prevented a
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publish that story. ms. mcdugeal said she was not fully informed. and one judge allowing a defamation lawsuit against the president and she claims she was groped on multiple occasions dating back to 2007. >> in the past 24 to 36 hours we started getting information of interest on one person we continued to work on and develop and as we continue to do our investigation this person of interest ultimately moved to be a suspect. >> sandra: authorities releasing little information on the austin bombing suspect who detonated himself with a device as the officers zeroed in on him in the
wee hours in the morning. this as officials warn more explosives may be out there. let's bring in a former chief of police and incident commander for the boston marathon bombing, there could still be packages out there and he may not have been working alone. >> absolutely. they have to find out if anyone was supporting him and where he had been in the last couple days, every location his gps or cell phone shows he's been and check package doors, fedex, ups, to make sure he didn't send devices elsewhere. it's good the immediate threat is over but there's work to do and follow-up to find out if there's other threats out there
and how this happened, who supported him, how he did it and why he did it. >> sandra: it's interesting to hear how crucial the last 24 to 36 hours were. it was a day and a half, three days ago there were no major leads as to who was carrying out the crimes. >> the chief mentioned this individual may have been on the radar screen. i think maybe some enforcement, or questions or some action taken by law enforcement may have made him go forward to a bold move so going to a fedex facility where he'd be video taped, that action, he had to have realized, would jeopardize his anonymity and it appears that's what happened. >> sandra: as they're warning us this morning, this investigation is still ongoing.
what will they be look for now? what does the investigation look like going forward now that he's dead? >> they'll go back and figure out where the components came from, if it was just him alone, where did he obtain the knowledge. he has a versatility of bomb strategies that's not the norm. one people have one way of doing things and stick with it. he clearly changed the sophistication of a movement and motion-sensored device is not the average individual putting this together and how'd he get the knowledge and was there support out there as well. and we'll have to look at the investigation. whether anything's missed. what went right. a lot seems to have gone right between the coordination from local, state and federal and let's make sure the next incident occurs, let's replicate that and in the future let's find them quicker should anyone
else take this type of action. >> sandra: and part of the investigation is trying to figure out what the motive was. >> absolutely. i hope it's not other cases recently where we don't know what me motives were. it helps the victims and families in our community to figure out why somebody did something. not that there's justification but information the mind set of the individual is helpful in healing. trying to figure out why this happened and what caused this individual to do this, what the purpose of his attacks were would be something we'd hope to discover as soon as possible. >> sandra: and we hope in the coming minutes, hours and days we learn more in austin. meanwhile, they're urging residents to still be vigilant and call 9-1-1 if you see anything suspicious. daniel linsky, thank you. >> bill: meanwhile, the start of a critical hearing on the hill.
homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen testifies. plus this, check it out. >> it's clear to me we're not sending the right message to putin about his behavior in our own backyard and had a chance to reenforce some allies and we missed that opportunity. >> sandra: that's some of the criticism president trump is facing for congratulations vladamir putin for what is seen as a rigged election. cory lewandowski is next. >> putin has been elected and that's not something we can dictate to them how they operate. we can only focus on the freeness and fairness of our election. something we fully 100% support.
about to hold a hearing and there on the spot is kirstjen nielsen. she will testify with her predecessor, jake johnson which should be interesting. republicans will come from one angle, democrats from another. meanwhile the bombings in texas can come up today. we're monitoring all this and give you headlines from inside the hearing room. stay tuned for that and waiting on more news out of austin texas. it's been in the news all night long. still a lot we don't know. >> sandra: what a morning. a lot of breaking news coming pin thank you for being us. and president trump facing criticism for his decision to make a phone call and congratulate the russian president, vladamir putin for his victory in what many see as a sham election. the white house cited the importance of communication win all countries including russia. >> i had a call with president putin and congratulated him on
the victory. his electoral victory. the call had to do also with the fact that we will probably get together in the not too distant future. >> we're going to continue to maintain the position we've had and be tough when necessary. at the same time, we want to continue to have dialogue so we can work on some of the issues that concern both countries. >> sandra: joining me now is cory lewandowski chief strategist for america first action and author of the best-seller, let trump be trump. cory, people asking why did he make the call in the first place and more why congratulate vladamir putin on what many see as a sham election? >> it with a bit that long ago when president obama c congratulated vladamir putin and
we didn't get the media outcry. he said he will work with leaders around the world where there are interests of the united states and there are interests when it comes to ridding isis in syria and continuing the economic sanctions on north korea and bringing kim jong-un to a position to denuclearize. and a message from our president from someone we need to work with is acceptable. >> sandra: and mitch mcconnell he said calling vladamir putin would not be high on my list. john mccain saying an american president does not lead the free world by congratulating
dictators by congratulating them on sham elections. he's facing criticism. >> i remember when president won and leaders called him and bureaucrats said we don't take that phone call and we don't recognize taiwan and he picked up the phone and took the congratulatory call from the president of taiwan. why don't we want to have a relationship with other countries when it's in the best interest of the united states and we can work together for a common goal like stopping kim jong-un or getting rid of isis. i don't think senator mcconnell or mccain would be opposed to those things. >> sandra: the president went on a twitter storm over the weekend. in one tweet he said the mueller probe should have never started in the first place. in some of the latest tweets from the president this morning,
corey, he is citing alan dershowitz yesterday a harvard law professor and quotes him on the twitter account he said whether a crime exists or not i'm still opposed. president trump was right when he said there should have never been a special counsel appointed because there was no probable cause for crime, collusion or otherwise or obstruction of justice so stated by harvard law professor, al and dershowitz. as trey gowdy says if you have nothing to hide, answer the questions. >> the white house has done that and made available every individual who's worked in the administration. i think what the president's frustration is, and i think it's a fair frustration, is the investigation has been going on north of a year, almost a year and a half. we have spent millions of taxpayer dollars.
there's been no collusion shown between the trump campaign and russia and russian officials. i was there. it didn't happen. what is fair at this juncture and what alan dershowitz is saying let's find a definitive date to end this. either we find collusion or close it and move upon i think it's a reasonable request. >> sandra: cambridge analytica what do you know of the data mined that many are under fire for the misuse of the data? >> i can't tell you anything about it. i can tell you when i ran the trump campaign cambridge analytica was not one our vendors. i had no interaction with them other than they came to us and asked us if we wanted to use them as a vendor. i told them nop >> sandra: jared kushner told
forbes facebook and digital targeting were the most effective way to reach the audiences. now the white house seems to downplay the role it played. >> i do think every campaign tries to target individuals based on a model of who they believe would be their most ideal voter. and what that looks like is hey, here's a person that would seem to fit the mold of a trump voter based on demographic, education, et s etcetera and they try to build a model and facebook is a place the campaign tried to do that. >> sandra: interesting stuff. we'll see where that goes. a lot of people want mark zuckerberg to shut down and answer questions. >> and he should. >> sandra: you believe he should testify? >> absolutely. he's no better than anybody else and should be able to come to congress and answer what took place. people have the right to know if they're information was not used properly. >> sandra: corey lewandowski. good to see you.
>> bill: we have this fox news alert. the associated press citing law enforcement sources and the news service is now naming the austin bombing suspect as mark anthony condit. police have not officially released his name but that's being reported on the a.p. he was 23 or 24 years old and said to be a white man and still no word on the motive and no clear indications about his roommates and we await more on that. in the meantime, president trump hitting back in the special counsel and firing former fbi deputy director, andrew mccabe by jeff sessions is on the mind of kentucky senator rand paul. he's hear live to react. >> sandra: and president trump looking to rally arguing there's no such thing as a red state democrat. >> once democrats get to washington, they always do the same thing.
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where are you? are you snowed in? unbelievable. we're in a new set and surround ed by windows and feel like we're in a snow globe. his point is democrats are moving more to the middle and that's a danger zone. >> we saw that last week in the special election in pennsylvania '18, where connor lamb was basically a republican in democrat clothing. look, these guys will try to benefit off trump's accomplishments. we can't let them get away with it. but we're raising money. they're raising not as much money to defend more seats. history is against us. since the civil war, the party in power of the white house typically loses about 31 seats and two seats in the senate. we can't afford history to repeat itself. the one good thing we have with us say record. the democrats will try to co-op
that. >> bill: richard, from the democratic perspective, you think about the race from illinois last night, do you find candidates in your party moving further left and trying to out flank and be more liberal? >> i think they're trying to frame up the democratic party and candidates. it's impossible. have you individual candidates running individual races. connor lamb ran a race for the pennsylvania '18. the race in the illinois third is won in the illinois third. what we'll do in the midterm election is run candidates that sound like the district. it's a deal we try to co-op trump's agenda is an alternative fact. connor lamb said the tax gi giveaway was for the rich. >> bill: does it get away from
the left and move to the center? >> you're looking at it from a macro level and we're looking at it from a micro level. we're going to run races that look like the district. >> bill: brad, what about that? connor lamb did really well in southwestern p.a. >> the democrats feel it will be the recipe for success in november. anytime they can align themselves with the accomplishments of the president and get away from the hard left issues that are so divisive. we know in off-year elections people have to be motivate to come out to the polls. we have to sell our message people are better off today than under obama. look, we have unemployment that is basically full employment. we're about 4%.
we have no inflation. people are feeling much better about the future. and they vote with their pocket books. if we sell a good optimistic economic message it's something the democrats cannot hope to do because they didn't vote for any of it. >> they're not selling it, number one. number two, we're a party that believes in work people and that's who we'll stand by. if you look at the alabama race, virginia and new jersey governor's race and pennsylvania 18th, we ran by candidates that stood by working-class people and understood the cost of health care is to high and prescription drugs interest are too high and we'll win in november. >> bill: 24's the magic number in the house. history tells you 31 is usually the way it goes. >> get ready for the wave. >> bill: richard, thanks, brad, thanks. >> the blue wave like my blazer. >> bill: enjoy the white wave
behind you. >> sandra: lawmakers are scrambling to pass a spending bill before the friday deadline as president trump blame the democrats. we'll have senator john thune next. never being satisfied never being satisfied and always working to be better.
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>> sandra: well, it's spring and with it comes the fourth nor'easter in four weeks. it could be the most significant and disruptive snow storms this week. our meteorologist joins us with the bad news from the fox news weather center. >> we're calling it a four-easter. it will be from d.c. up to boston. snow totals from 6 to 12 inches in some cases over that depending on the bands and in new york city heavy snow and 31 degrees and could be our biggest snowfall events all season. philadelphia getting freezing rain and snow in d.c. they could get several inches of snow and a couple inches in boston depending on where the exact track sets up. but right now, this forecast model shows snow in the forecast along the i-95 and it's going to be lasting throughout the midday into the afternoon into the evening and then into the
overnight for parts of new england. it's a big deal. look at the snowfall totals, 6-12 easily and some areas could get 18-24 inches. this is a big deal. in some cases we'll shatter snowfall reports. and real quick, sandra, we have a big storm system in southern california. two big storms on both coast. we'll be following it in the fox weather center. >> bill: it's spring. we're watching the senate intel committee hearing room on homeland security and kirstjen nielsen testifying at the moment. and breaking developments in the texas bombing investigation. police reportedly identifying the suspect as mark anthony conditt.
what was he motive? the questions remain at this hour.
identified as mark anthony conditt, 23 or 24, not confirmed, has terrorized austin for weeks. they received critical information. they tracked the 24-year-old at a hotel 25 miles from austin where he set off a bomb inside his car as the s.w.a.t. team had him surrounded. >> late last night and early this morning, we felt confident this was the suspect in the bombing incident that took place in austin. we had surveillance teams looking for the suspect and we ultimately located the vehicle this suspect was known to be driving and witnesses told us he was driving and in fact we found that at a hotel right up the road here in round rock. we had multiple officers from both the police department and our federal partners that took up positions around the hotel
awaiting the arrival of our tactical teams because we wanted to have ballistic vehicles here to attempt to take the suspect into custody as safely as possible. while we were waiting for those vehicles to get here, much time had passed and the vehicle start to drive away. we began following the vehicle again waiting to get the tactical vehicles here to make a stop. however, the vehicle ended up stopping on the side of the road behind us. as members of the austin police department s.w.a.t. team approached the vehicle, the suspect detonated a bomb inside the vehicle knocking one of our s.w.a.t. officers back and one of our s.w.a.t. officers fired at the suspect as well. the suspect is deceased and has
significant injuries from a blast that occurred from detonating a bomb inside his vehicle. >> sandra: for more on this let's bring in texas lieutenant governor dan patrick. thank you for come on with us, sir. we now know the killer is dead. >> he is dead. this is incredible police work. i know we've said it this morning several times and we'll keep saying it but i can't over emphasize it sandra and bill. countless lives will have been saved from future bombings from this evil person. the agencies did a great job and the federal government and texas state police and texas rangers and the texas police department. you have to think about this, sandra, every police officer always puts himself in harm's way investigating or being involved in a criminal activity but when you're taking on a bomber and when the s.w.a.t.
officers surround him between 2:00 and 3:00 in the morning he could have thrown a pipe bomb at them or had his car or area booby trapped. they put their lives on the line. thank goodness they were not hurt. incredible detective work. we received an update from law enforcement. early last evening around 6:00 to 6:30 central time, we got a call from law enforcement that said they'd zeroed in on this person and was a person of interest and after he was seen on cameras at the fedex location they pieced it together and within hours they'd identified his home and had his home under surveillance and had two vehicles and they tracked him. incredible work.
>> sandra: a lot of pieces to that puzzle to this speedy capture of this suspect. but what ultimately the biggest piece. what ultimately led them to him? >> i would say it's a combination of all the work over 19 days. when they saw the video, they said that matches someone we'd been looking at. it took both pieces. once he changed his pattern instead of planting bombs in front of homes, he went to mail a bomb, that exposed him to the cameras and video and we saw the vehicle. it was both pieces of work. great detective work and heroism by the law enforcement officers. i want to remember people of two names, steven house the man with a daughter killed by the bomber and draylen mason who was going to get a music scholarship to
u.t. who will never get a chance to walk on that campus and this was evil at its worse. this bomber would have killed, women, children, injured a woman -- it didn't matter. black, white or brown. he attacked everyone. again, by getting him last night, we have saved countless lives. you all have done a great job of reminding everyone today in the austin area, still be careful. >> sandra: what is it like on the ground because we heard the dhs secretary commenting on this at a hearing saying the public must remain vigilant. >> vigilant, yes. >> sandra: have authorities been able to rule out anyone else working with this killer? >> they haven't ruled anything out but at this point they do not have other suspects at least at the last briefing i've received. he lived with one or two other
people but we didn't know if he made the bombs in the house or elsewhere. maybe at this hotel. these are things we're going to learn. right now, we have as governor abbott said early on fox, we have the master mind. he's dead. this is great police work. it's good we erased evil but we have to find out the motive and if there's other accomplices. people have to remain vigilant. we don't know if he planted more bombs until the time they got him there were hours in there. so please, if you're in the greater austin area, still be very vigilant as you were this time yesterday and anyone just be suspicious of packages because he could have mailed a bomb anywhere. we don't know that yet. >> sandra: and you mentioned the two roommates. how will the investigation proceed looking into anyone else
who may have been helping him or working along side him? >> well, i think based on what you've seen from the combined law enforcement, they will be very thorough. it is my belief base on information i have, they found the other vehicle, he was using a second vehicle, because someone under surveillance they questioned him and found out this evil, low-life person was use a second vehicle. it led the tip to find the second vehicle last night and again it happened between t2:00 and 3:00 in the morning that they captured him and he was dead. again, we mourn the victims. >> sandra: certainly. >> bill: >> but we praise our heroes in law enforcement. >> sandra: heroes indeed working
so swiftly and strategically. what a story in the wee hours of the morning surrounding his car as he then detonated an explosive device. dan patrick, lieutenant governor of the state of texas. thank you for coming on this morning. >> thank you, sandra. >> bill: this is going on the hill. senate intel committee on a hearing on election security. former secretary jake johnson is there. dhs secretary, kirstjen nielsen also testifying at the moment. peter doocy is live on the hill for headlines. what are they telling, you pe r peter? good morning. >> reporter: it comes after the senate intel committee recommended the best way, in their opinion, to protect future elections is to go back in time and start using paper ballots not connect to wi-fi. this bipartisan group of senators is calling for a shout out to any bad actors who may be playing -- planning to interfere
with an election. the election has to stay a state-led effort and have to offer extra efforts like experts and money. and it follows more than a year of of their probing interference by russia in 201 including the worry now from the dhs is the number could grow this year. >> we have no evidence votes were changed as a result of their efforts. however, the threat of interference remains and we recognize that the 2018 midterm and future elections are clearly targets for russian hacking attempts. >> reporter: you can see how important it is to the united states senate because it's one
of the only hearings happening today. about everything else on the hill has been rescheduled for a snowstorm that is very disruptive that came to town around dawn. the government is technically closed but the hearing is on. bill. >> bill: thank you, peter. peter doocy watching that for us. thank you, sir. >> sandra: meanwhile, former secretary j. johnson at the hearings defending the obama's administration's 2016 election interference. >> we were beating the drum pretty hard beginning with a conference call i had with every state secretary -- secretary of state on august 15. the good news is by election day, 33 states actually came in and sought our cyber security assistance and 36 cities and countieses came in and sought our cyber security assistance in the time permit.
clearly, senator, as we look back on the experience two years later and we have a clearer picture of the full extent of what the russian government was doing, there could have been additional efforts made but i'm satisfied at the time this was a front-burner issue for me. >> sandra: responding to election interference saying it was a front-burner issue for them. >> bill: and we know, and it's been said repeatedly, no votes were changed as a result of this. we emphasize that for the integrity of our own democratic system it's important to keep in mind they may have tried, and will try again. and the white house has said repeat lid -- repeatedly they have a plan in order and people are responsible to keep the election safe.
there are calls for mark zuckerberg to step down after the cambridge analytica fallout. and we don't know if zuckerberg or cheryl sandberg if and when they'll testify. what can we expect from them? we'll tell you. >> sandra: and many disagreeing with the mccabe firing. how rand paul is respond. >> bill: and if you're just joining us, the austin bomber suspect in texas is dead. what led to the final explosion that ended his life overnight. >> was his goal to terrorize or did he have some other type of agenda? obviously, there was terror. what we need to find out and i think we will find out is did he have a different agenda other than terror. and that we don't know yet.
platforms how it can be used and abused. i think it's important we come in and sort that out. >> sandra: an editor for the washington times is on with us and fox news contributor charlie hurt. thank you for joining us. it's got parties wanting answers and wanting to know what facebook knew, when they knew it. should mark zuckerberg testify? >> i think he will whether he wants to or not. you're right, it's an interesting issue. it's one i think is amazing congress is only now getting concerned about. i remember in 2004 covering the howard dean campaign which was one of the first presidential
campaigns that utilized the internet and information in a way -- in a campaign that made it a powerful tool. then we saw it again come up in 2008 with president obama in 2012 where they used not only the data on the internet but also the social networks like facebook, twitter. kind of weaponize them to a degree that was effective. we have a federal elections commission that claims to oversee all this and regulate how much is spent and how much candidates use and collect from people. the idea is to put sunshine on all this. and this creates a whole big problem because of course, if you go on facebook and endorse some candidate on facebook, is that an in kind contribution? all these questions have not been sorted out and congress is just coming to it now. i'm concerned because the reason
they're coming to it is because of the trump campaign -- >> sandra: i wonder what changes are coming, charlie, based on what the outcome is. dianne feinstein weighed in saying if the industry won't solve the problems themselves, we'll have to solve them with legislation. i don't think that's the most desirable course but you can't have 50 million people lose data this way and then use the data as a weapon during an election. so 15 -- 50 million people. that's a lot of people and we don't know what where the data is today. >> and it's not a data breach in a traditional sense. it was basically information handed over to cambridgia cambr -- cambridge analytica and it
puts facebook on the hook and makes them culpable in this. if they want to go after them for that it could be very expensive. >> sandra: i'll tell you whose holding them accountable, shareholders. the stock lost more than 2% in the story breaking and low-level staffers meeting with congressional committees. charlie hurt, thank you. >> bill: 21 past the hour now. austin police urging people to stay vigilant saying the bomber could still have planted explosives before killing himself. >> sandra: and president trump calling out democrats saying they're the main reason nothing gets done in congress as lawmakers scramble to pass a spending bill. senator john thune joins us with his reaction. >> a vote for democrats is truly a vote for open borders.
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conditt. i want to bring in buck sexton. he lived in a home with his parents. >> so far the biographical profile is unremarkable. he grew up in the austin area. was home schooled, went to community college. people say he was a loner. we didn't have early indicators like in the aftermath of the shooter at parkland where everybody said we knew he a huge problem and so far we're being told, quiet, relatively polite. nothing about a political proclivitiy and we have an i.d. and digging into it more but his background doesn't raise red flags. >> bill: my sense is on the investigative side they knew who they had probably two nights ago based on the video recovered
march 19. if that's the case, they had his name and knew where he lived and have more information than they've hold it at the moment. >> austin p.d. did a good job of preventing information getting out prematurely to the public in how far along they were in the investigation. it seemed they had a sense he was a person of interest and then moved to the suspect category. that may have coincided with the fedex drop off and that was on the radar and then they got the guy and were able to track him likely using cell technology. >> bill: to put a fine point on that. police were able to track him down at the drop-off store where they obtained this surveillance video. so that was a key component in this investigation. >> yeah, and i think that was also part of the time line shift. the fedex issue come up and
there's still the issue whether there are other packages out there. until we get clarity on that everyone has to maintain a sense of heightened vigilance. >> bill: you did a lot of this work from new york city. from an investigative standpoint when you consider he had two roommates, what are they doing now behind the scenes? >> i worked on the counterterrorism side and they'd be speaking to anyone around the individual to get a sense as to whether, first of all, they were involved in some way so there's the possibility of criminal jeopardy for some of the people they'll be talking to and then just to get a better sense of the profile of this suspect and how, if anything, law enforcement or anyone could have intervened beforehand to try to stop this from happening. what we've seen so far this was not somebody who was a bright neon sign of trouble. this is somebody who based on the preliminary findings we've
seen, a loner, quiet, and not a lot on social media yet. usually that's the treasure trove of information that gets kicked open right away. >> bill: does it make the case more difficult? >> it makes it more difficult to understand why he did what he did. people treat social media like an ongoing diary or are a disconnect and we see this with jihadist. they like to go in navy chat rooms and will tell other people this is what i want to do. they like to brag about it. there's a malignant narcissism so far they like to display. with this guy we haven't seen it so far. i wonder if we'll have a neighbor or family member saying they were worried. >> bill: we don't know when the next press conference will be but it will be valuable. thank you, buck sexton.
>> sandra: a deadly terror attack overseas. a suicide bomber killing dozens of innocent people. we're live with the latest on that. and the president facing backlash over fbi deputy director andrew mccabe's firing. we'll get new reaction from senator rand paul next. let's take a look at some numbers:
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professor alan dershowitz. the president is quoting harvard professor alan dershowitz. rand paul, first, you weigh in on mueller. where do you think this is going, senator? >> i agree with the tweet by alan dershowitz -- >> bill: to be clear, it was from the president quoting alan dershowitz. >> i agree with the president quoting him that the prosecutors have run far afield for what they're empanelled for and get down a wild goose chase and i think special prosecutors have too much power. i would not have appointed mueller. now that it's going it's more difficult to end but there's no reason why mueller should be investigating things other than russian collusion. if there is no russian collusion, he should wind up, close his investigation and move on.
what i don't like is they can subpoena your business records for the past 20 years and if you didn't fill out a form correctly with the irs you'll be convicted of something unrelated to russia. if there's no russian collusion, let's move on. >> bill: do you have a sense where it's going? >> i haven't seen evidence of russian collusion and i don't believe there was russian interference. did they try to influence our election, yes. what should we do, work deatoger to protect our electoral process. instead it's a witch hunt now that's become very partisan. now we're seeing people from the intelligence community turning out to be left-wing democrats and exposing the president and we have to be careful how much power we give to those in the
intelligence community. >> bill: the president sent this week, when the full extent of your moral turpitude becomes known you'll take your place and you may scapegoat andy mccabe but america will triumph over you and you said what's disgraceful is attacking the bill of rights and the freedom of every american. you don't like the policies of john brennan, why did you write that? >> i think he'll go down in history as a partisan and now in the transition of law enforcement of trying to be even keeled. i'm upset with what he said about the president and that he was a big advocate of basically unlimited surveillance of americans where they were collecting millions and millions
of americans' data and searching the data without a warrant. that was john brennan and james clapper. so these people will go down in history as not only not caring about the biffle -- bill of rights and inserting themselves and why we need more control over the intelligence community. and i think they should never be searching in americans' records without a warrant. i continue to advocate that nobody, nobody on either side in the intelligence community should search an american's record without a warrant. >> bill: going back to kentucky, where you call home, think the deep state's alive and kicking? >> we've seen so many biassed people. we have john brennan attacking the president in a personal way and james clapper attacking the president -- >> bill: i'll give you another
one, from the u.n. there was a comment saying whoa, i didn't realize what i stirred up and tried it clear it up with another tweet. people on the out side are trying to figure out out. >> in the deep state there are facts that tells you there's an uncontrollable deep state in the intelligence community. only eight people are allowed to know what's going on and the eight people that oversee them have typically been a rubber stamp for the intelligence community. i want more oversight. i think all of congress should know more about what the intelligence community is doing and absolutely we should have judicial oversight. meaning judges should have to grant warrants to look at
americans' information. lisa page, peter strzok are they still allowed to access information. do we have people that hate the president allowed to access information about the president or the president's supporters. >> bill: last question on the big data companies, where are you on that now? i don't think people don't know people are watching when they go online. >> with regard to the private sharing of data, so when you log on and do a search on google or anything and search for shoes and later on shoes pop-up, most acknowledge that's how the internet works. are people giving too much data
on facebook, that's a judgment their customers have to make and there's a way to prevent them from having your data and that's not to share it with them. i think the push-back will go back and forth but i think congress should stay out of it. if customers have a problem with facebook they can quit or if they breached their contract they can sue facebook. >> bill: that's very interesting. why do you think congress has jumped on this as quickly as they did? >> congress always tries to get in the middle of stuff but most the time is unseamly. it becomes a kangaroo court. as far as russia it's all kangaroo court. there's a real investigation with mueller and the investigation but all the stuff congress does is to puff themselves up and act as if they're doing something. but i don't like the idea of bringing facebook before congress because i think it's a matter between the customers of facebook and facebook. congress doing it, it's unseemly
to drag them before congress and i'm unfor -- not for it. >> bill: thank you. >> sandra: president trump taking jabs at democrats at a republican fundraiser last night. >> democrats like to campaign as moderates but they always governor like radicals. >> sandra: so will those comments help or hurt republicans during the 2018 midterm? south dakota senator john thune chairs the republican conference and will join us live, next. when i received the diagnosis,
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what he did in georgia and ukraine and what he's done in the baltics and in london poisoning people with the nerve gas say criminal activity. i wouldn't have a conversation way criminal. >> bill: chuck grassley strong words, the republican from iowa. >> sandra: and add that to other republicans including mitch member connell and john mccain who have had harsh criticism to the president's phone call. >> one thing they do great is obstruct. they're great at obstruction. they're wonderful at sticking in a block. they rarely break up though i think we'll break them up a little bit because a lot of them are saying nice things about me on certain states we won by a
lot and they running in races, you know about that, right? but they really are a block. they just vote no. i don't think people want that when it comes time to elect >> sandra: president trump blasting democrats while at a fundraiser for republicans lashing out against democrats in congress and to nancy pelosi suggesting republicans are in good shape heading into the midterms. joining me is south dakota john thune. would you agree, senator, in good shape heading into midterms. >> democrats? >> sandra: no, republicans. . >> i think we're in good shape. i think what people focussed on when they start thinking about elections, which is early, it's a ways off, they think with the economy and their pocket books and whether their lives are better now or two or four years ago.
if you look at every indication, unemployment's at a 17-year low last month in february, more people entered the workforce than have in 40 years. over 800,000 people and that will affect the way people vote. >> sandra: the president placing blame on democrats calling them obstructionists. >> the things have gotten done has been in spite of democrats. the president has been instrumental in making sure he's getting nominees up here we can process. what we have seen from the democrats is historic levels of obstruction particularly on the president's nominees. if you go back to the previous four administration in the first year of those four administrations combined, there were 32 nominees filibustered by
the opposing party. this president has had 78 already. so we spend a lot of our time working through filibusters and waste time on nominees we could use to work on other things. >> sandra: there's a lot of work to do before the friday deadline and passing the spending bill. will that happen? >> i think it will. it's always challenging and you're dealing with democrats who use these opportunities as leverage to get more spending. this is how they grow government. they use every opportunity to fund the military and things we think are important, fund the border, they use it to increase their social services. we're trying to get the necessary votes to pass a bill in the house that does the important things we need to do like taking care of our military and dealing with the opioid
crisis and infrastructure and things like that. but obviously dealing with democrats who have a tremendous amount of leverage makes it challenging because in every case what they advocate for is more spending and government. >> sandra: it's a question a lot of folks at home have as well, how do they keep getting to this point. another deadline. have to fund the government or it's going to shut down. it seems we keep getting here. >> we do. of course this all starts with the budget process and what's happened in the time we've been the majority is the democrats blocked appropriations bills so we end up with a pile-up at the end of the year. it has to change. i'm a big advocate of budget reform. i think we have to transform the way we budget. it would change the way washington works more than anything else we can do. we need to move aggressively to change that. >> sandra: and real quick, senator, if i could get you to weigh in, you just heard chuck grassley weighing in on the
president's phone call congratulating putin on his election victory. a lot of members of your party have spoken out taking issue with that phone call. did you have a problem with it? >> i'm not sure why the president felt he need to call and congratulation vladamir putin on what was a fake election. i think most of us don't see that as necessary. obviously it's a decision the president ultimately makes. but i think his advisors were advising him against it but in this circumstance i'd listen to advisors. >> sandra: i know there's weather there in washington. senator thune thank you for coming on this morning. >> bill: fox news, dozens are dead after an attack overseas. another bombing in a capital city that's dealt with this for far too long. details on who's behind the attack coming up next. for all the eyes that get itchy and watery near pollen. there's flonase sensimist. it relieves all your worst symptoms
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>> six minutes away on "happening now" terror ending in austin, texas. we now know the name of the suspect but what was his motive? we hope to learn more. and the deadline fast approaching for a new spending bill. how close are lawmakers and what's in it for the military? we'll talk to senator james enhof about that and it may be spring but another major winter storm is hammering the east coast. how long will it last? how bad will it get? all ahead, "happening now." >> bill: thank you, john. at least 29 are dead, dozens injured after a suicide bomber blew himself up in the crowded part of kabul. benjamin is watching this for us. >> reporter: it's a latest in
the series of attacks by the terrorist group and they seek to divide the country at a crucial time for u.s. presence on the ground and the future of the country itself. the latest attack was carried out by a lone suicide bomber who targeted a crowd of hundreds who gathered to celebrate the start of the persian new years festival. isis claimed responsible soon after it happened. the death toll has risen to 52 with 52 wounded but the number is sadly expect to rise. the crowd gathered outside a shia shrine with young people singing and celebrating. everything and they now seem to focus on attacks in the city. u.s. and afghan officials say it's an response to airstrikes and military strikes which have pushed them back to rural areas.
in the last week we've seen general dunford, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff visit ahead of the offensive. that's when the taliban will launch more attacks in the country. what we've seen is the u.s. pull troops and hardware out of iraq after the fight against isis has come to an end. moving it to afghanistan. expect there to be real pushback business the tal ban -- tal i ban. >> bill: thank you for that. >> sandra: a suspected serial bomber is dead. we now know his name and a live report from the scene, coming up.
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own. trial of paul manafort started today. and it could weigh heavy on the future and the direction of that probe and america's confidence in whether or not the so-called collusion really exists. more on all that in a moment. but first, straight away to phil keating live at trump rally in tampa. is he there and what is tonight all about? >> good evening. tonight is all about those two things you mention. number one, traditional make america great again rally and also the president is going to reiterate his very strong endorsement on republican congressman of florida ron desantis, who is in a primary battle with the agricultural secretary to become florida's next governor. by the sounds of things, it has been rock 'n' roll pumped loudly here all day, i think steven tyler and aerosmith are going to be the last people on the p.a. before the president is introduced because he got here about 15 minutes ago to the state fairgrounds. this has been multiple hours
archives and blows the dust off a decade old case that was never prosecuted against manafort for lack of evidence, and who was presiding back in those days? a guy by the name of rod rosenstein. they chose not to go after manafort. now all of a sudden rosenstein is presiding over mueller in the special counsel case. he is bringing action against manafort. >> rick gates has turned against him, right? former business partner. and it appeared that the difference for men a fort was going right after rick gates. >> they are saying that man a fort didn't intend to break the law. if he did violate tax laws he did it without knowledge or understanding, but he trusted guys like rick gates and rick gates, the defense will say, is lying to you, the jurors because he has everything to gain to avoid prison. >> bill: charlie?
barack obama in 2010 lost 63 house seats in his mid term. right now you've got an advantage about two dozen, about 23 seats. this is a part of it. a pretty good raced on there but tampa it looks like the democrat has a pretty firm lead. looks like you can win his district. one of these direct districts that could be switched yet again, but ron desantis coming out today really from the tweets a couple weeks ago seems to have taken an edge over adam putnam in this race for florida. >> as he was saying earlier, it is donald trump's party at this point. there are all vestiges tugging him in the wrong direction at this time's. but the bottom line is, not only did he run on these issues, but he's actually delivered on a startling number of them >> he
can swing a primary, what is your sense about a general election? >> it's a little bit tougher but i think the trump dilution derangement syndrome has people thinking this guy can get beaten and that is simply not true. there are independents are still giving this guy a chance. >> this is a big crowd here. he can turn out people in a way that i don't think we've ever really seen in modern politics. >> weeps even a big crowd at i don't want to get into territory -- we don't president had some trouble with the inaugural crowd. but other politicians have done it. my point to you here is that when you look at this, ron desantis is there. good question, where is rick scott running for governor. when it comes to general election, he is running statewide against bill nelson, the incumbent senator from florida, he has to figure out how trump place. >> rick scott was at the event prior, he is doing a fund-raiser
we drop in now live. here we go. >> president trump: i am thrilled to be in this great state where we, by the way, had a great victory. with thousands of hardworking american patriots who love our country and respect our great american flag. we are honored to be joined tonight by some tremendous people. congressman gus. where is gus? wears gus? ted yoho. and matt gates, thank you. thank you. thank you.
thank you, fellas. i also want to recognize state representative jose olivo and the former cochairman of my florida campaign, representative joe girders. thank you. thank you. and finally, i love you too. i would like to introduce a true leader, a proud veteran, my great friend, a tough, brilliant cookie. true. he's tough, he's smart and he loves florida and he loves our country and he's going to be your next governor, ron desantis.
[cheers and applause] welcome to florida, mr. president . for someone who grew up just across the bay, starting out working six bucks an hour, it's a true honor to be standing here endorsed by the president of the united states. i appreciate your support, mr. president, but i appreciate more the leadership you are showing to our great country.
[cheers and applause] we have the strongest economy we've had in years. we are standing behind our ally, the state of israel. we have strong constitutionalists being put on our court, including the supreme court. we have ended the disastrous iran deal. [cheers and applause] and under the president's leadership, we are standing against socialist dictatorships in latin america like cuba and venezuela and nicaragua! [cheers and applause] florida is going in the right direction and we need to continue our success and build upon it. we can't go back to the days of
charlie chris where the good old boys run the show. we can make our state without peer for economic opportunity if we continue with strong conservative policies. we can fight illegal immigratio immigration. [cheers and applause] always got to do is enact e-verify and stop sanctuary cities. we can end judicial activism in florida by appointing solid constitutionalists to our state
courts, just like the president has done to the federal court. and we can improve our education system by stopping common core. [cheers and applause] >> by giving every child, regardless of circumstance, the ability to attend a good school and by getting the constitution back in our classrooms in a very big way. so, mr. president, thank you for your support, thank you for what you are doing for the state of florida, i asked for your vote on the august primary, thank you guys, and god bless america, thank you! [cheers and applause]
[crowd chanting "usa"] >> president trump: thank you, ron. and everybody needs to support ron desantis in our august august 20th primary and in the november general election, don't forget you have somebody, one of the group is going to be running on open borders, anti-ice, anti-law enforcement. [boos]
>> president trump: that's too bad. that's too bad. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: that's too bad! one person, one person and tomorrow the headlines will be massive protest. [laughter] too bad. sorry about that, ron. earlier today i also spent time with your current governor, one of our nation's truly great leaders, rick scott. as you know, rick is running to replace liberal democratic schumer-controlled
nancy pelosi-controlled and new start of the democrat party, maxine waters. [boos] name is bill nelson and you know i live a lot of time in florida. the only time i see bill nelson is five months before every election. and after a while you forget who's the senator? but around five months you see him at parties and you see him around and we have to be careful because we have to make sure that rick scott wins and wins big. [cheers and applause] bill nelson voted for obamacare, which has been a totally disastrous situation. and we got rid of the individual mandate, the most unpopular
aspect and most of obamacare will be gone very soon. in fact, it was gone until one gentleman decided at 2:00 in the morning, remember? and give very much, we appreciated. and he voted against tax cuts and he wants to go in there and raise your taxes. tell me, is that good politics? i don't think so. bill nelson voted in favor of sanctuary cities. he opposed cates law. bill nelson puts criminal aliens before american citizens, which is why it's time to vote bill nelson out of office. that's what's going to happen. [cheers and applause] and we have two unbelievable people, ron desantis, rick scott fighting for florida, they always will and fighting to
make america great again. that's what they're doing. [cheers and applause] so i'm sure we all say this about our children, but i have great children, and a couple of them plus here tonight. i have eric trump, who has been fantastic. he loves his political stuff. eric's wife, who is so great, i think she is single-handedly won state of north carolina for trump. thank you, larra. didn't hurt in pennsylvania either, thank you very much. and we have somebody that nobody ever heard of, ivanka. [cheers and applause]
we started off, it was a small group, they said it couldn't be done. it was actually done quite easily. we won quite handily. we were never off center stage, you know what that means, right? the debates. we never left center stage and i said i always want odd numbers because i wanted to be in the center, i wanted to be tied for the center but we never, we never left center stage and i will tell you, cory, david, ivanka, lara, eric, don, jr., all of them, they were fantastic. [cheers and applause] they were fantastic. and i have to say our first lady is home watching. look at all those cameras right there. she's home watching.
and everybody loves melania. the love melania. she is a fantastic job. just last week it was announced that the u.s. economy grew at 4.1% last quarter. it was a number that everybody said was not reachable and i would never want to say it during the campaign even though i believed it. i believed it, because they would not have given us the break. fake news. fake news. they are fake. do you believe -- look at this, every night it's the same thing. wouldn't you think they would get tired of the speeches? wouldn't you think? and here's one thing i will tell you. if they don't get ratings, those
speeches don't go on, doesn't matter. look how many they have back there. they just can't get enough. they can't get enough. they cannot get enough and by the way, outside, if you want to go, we set up for the first time a tremendous movie screen because we have thousands and thousands of people outside that couldn't get in. so we have a big screen and big loudspeakers and i hope you are all happy out there. this is a great place to be. if you're going to be outside, be outside in the great state of florida, right? so we are setting records like never before. since the election we have added 3.7 million new jobs. they would not have believed it. we are in the longest positive
job growth streak in history. think of that. remember i said what do you have to lose? right? okay? what do you have to lose? and people said i don't know, is that a nice thing? no, it's not nice or unnice. what do you have to lose? the african-american unemployment rate has reached the lowest level in history! history! thank you. you guys are great, thank you. blacks for trump. they say blacks for trump. [cheers and applause] you knew a long time ago, didn't you? you knew a long time ago, thank you.
thank you. the hispanic unemployment rate is at the lowest level in history, hispanic. [cheers and applause] the asian unemployment rate has reached the lowest level in history. sorry about this, women, but the unemployment rate has reached the lowest level in only 65 years. it will be history. it will be. [cheers and applause] it will be history soon. give us about two more weeks. [crowd chanting "usa"] >> president trump: the veteran's unemployment rate, oh
do we love our veterans, right? [cheers and applause] has reached the lowest level in 18 years. more than 3.5 million americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election. american oil production is at an all-time high. we have never produced this much, and the united states is now a net natural gas exporter for the first time in more than 60 years. [cheers and applause] we will very shortly be the largest in the world, the largest in the world.
and most importantly america is being respected again. we are respected again. [cheers and applause] and i told the story the other day, i get to meet all these world leaders. virtually everyone comes into the oval office or wherever we are meeting and they don't know me. i meeting them in many cases for the first time. i'm not sure they like me like in the case of nato, i said you have to pay your bills, you've got to pay up, but they like me, they like me. but everyone says hello mr. president, congratulations on what you've done for the
economy, it's the talk of the world. the talk of the world. [cheers and applause] now that we have the best economy in the history of our country, this is the time to straighten out the worst trade deals ever made by any country on earth, they are the worst. for decades, the united states was the piggy bank that everybody was robbing. all of these other countries, our friends, our enemies, our allies. the foe. we rebuilt china, paying hundreds of billions of dollars a year with nobody there to protect your money, but we are there now. we are protecting your money. [cheers and applause] and i want to thank our farmers. our farmers are true patriots.
because china and others have targeted -- china and others, remember this, have targeted our farmers. not good. not nice, and you know what our farmers are saying? it's okay, we can take it. these are incredible people. we can take it. you know why? they target our farmers because they know it's one of our great strengths -- it's us, it's not me, it's us altogether. they know it's one of our great strengths. we want every farm state -- you have to see the middle -- not even the middle, it was about everything but a little corner of each side, but you have to see that is all red, republican red, beautiful republican red. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: and remember this, remember this, farms have been on a decline. it's been 15 years, i've only
been here for -- it's pretty soon going to be close to two years, but if you look at soybeans, big crop, if you go back to election day and then moved back five years, so five years before election day, soybeans dropped 50% in price. i wasn't even here, so now we are going to open up markets, we are going to do with the way it should be and all of this stuff, you are going to make it back and it's going to be made back faster than anybody would know, but we haven't been treated right, we are going to make it back nice and quickly. nice and quick. now after years of rebuilding foreign countries, it's time to finally rebuild our country, right? [cheers and applause]
>> president trump: in the past, politicians ran for office pledging to crack down on unfair trade. they never did anything about it. only to get elected, and they just didn't do anything. the united states was allowed to truly get ripped off but we are not going to let that happen, i'm not like other politicians. you've seen what happens, i've kept my promises. [cheers and applause] [crowd chanting] >> president trump: one of the
brilliant pundits that doesn't have a clue -- these people, how they have gotten us wrong. and you know what they were asking on election day? where did all these people come from? where did they come from? in tennessee, that was an early stage. they came in and they were pouring in with the early vote and the fake news was saying where are these people coming from? you know where they came from? they came from the heart. they came from people that were never happy with anybody until we came along, that's where they came from. [cheers and applause] that's where they came from. but one of the pundits said that he's made a lot of promises and you won't believe it, but he's actually capped far more promises than he made, did you ever hear that when?
so. because they will probably throwing him out of broadcasting tomorrow. we've taken the toughest ever actions in response to china's abuse of trade practices. and we are doing very well with china, very well and i have a lot of respect for china and i have tremendous respect for president xi of china, but this has been too many years of abuse, $500 billion a year, 500 billion. we've helped rebuild china, we can't do that anymore. we can't do that anymore and our farmers understand it and our workers understand it and frankly our companies understand it. i was with one of the greatest companies in the world, the chief executive officer of very short while ago and it really affects him. he said you know what, this does affect our company, but
mr. president, keep going, you are doing the right thing. i thought it was great. i thought it was great. great company, one of the greatest. he said you were doing the right thing and i said i appreciate it. thanks to our powerful trade policies, the trade deficit is falling and falling and falling and boy did it fall this quarter. [cheers and applause] the days of pondering american jobs and american wealth, those days are over, they are over. [cheers and applause] america first. america first. we are also living by two very important roles, buy american and higher american. [cheers and applause] last week i visited with hundreds of american
steelworkers who were laid off years ago because other countries were dumping steel all over our country. they are not dumping so much anymore, did you notice? and if they do, they are paying a 25% tariff or tax. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: so you do you know what i say to that? dump all you want. i hope you dump a lot. now, thanks to our tariffs, our steelworkers are back on the job, american steel mills are back open for business. we are starting to set new records, and nobody believed it could happen as quickly! [cheers and applause]
[crowd chanting "usa"] >> president trump: u.s. steel just announced that they are building six new steel mills. and that number is soon going to be lifted, but i'm not allowed to say that, so i won't. and i'm very proud to report that nucor is going to build a brand-new $240 million steel mill, that's a big one, right here in florida, the head of nucor is here. thank you. thank you. head of nucor. that's a big one. democrats want to raise your taxes. they want to destroy your jobs.
they want to cross crush our industries with crippling regulations, and you know the stock market is up almost 40% since that great november day. your 401k is are doing well. 401(k)s. i tell the story i was in new york, and shake hands, i love law enforcement. do we love law enforcement? [cheers and applause] and i was shaking hands with policeman in new york city and the first one came up to me and said mr. president, i want to thank you so much. i said what did i do? my 401(k) is up 44% and my wife thinks i am for the first time, a financial genius. she's giving him all the credit. she said darling, i love you so much and he said yes, i'm a
great financial wizard. but he said you are just making me look so good and all of you -- who has 401(k)s here? i guarantee you one thing, i have your vote, i guarantee it. [cheers and applause] of course, if the fake news did a poll, they are called suppression poles. polls are fake, just like everything else. if the fake news did a poll, it would show that i'm only getting 25% with the 401(k) people even though they are up 44%. we are doing well, we are doing well and i'm happy you are doing well. they just came out with a poll, did you hear? the most popular person in the history of the republican party is trumped! can you believe this?
[cheers and applause] >> president trump: so i said does that include honest abe lincoln? he was pretty good, right? remember i said we might be a little bit wild, they say he's not acting presidential and i would say it's a lot easier to act presidential than to do what i do. anybody can act presidential. [cheers and applause]
ladies and gentlemen of the state of florida, thank you very much for being here. you are tremendous people and i will leave now because i am boring you to death, thank you. [laughter] [cheers and applause] >> president trump: but i said i can be -- i used to tell them all the time, the fake news, i would say i can be more presidential than any president in history except for possibly abe lincoln with the big hat. i don't know. he looked pretty presidential, what do you think? he's tough. he's tough. i admit it, abe lincoln is tough! but we love abe lincoln.
one of these guys were not poll came out, most popular, and it was in the 90s and one of these guys is on television, can't miss a word, they see the ball, oh, my god, look at this, oh, my god, . seven more years. seven more. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: seven more. [cheers and applause] oh, my god. oh. we've got to find something come up with to do anything, anything to get him out, he's doing too well, this is not good. worst of all, democrats -- you know that, they want to open our borders, they want to let crime, tremendous crime, into our country. [boos]
republicans want strong borders and no crime. democrats want open borders, which equals massive crime. [boos] and on top of that, the democrats, nancy pelosi, the whole group, maxine. maxine, she likes me a lot. she likes me. they have launched outrageous attacks on our incredible law enforcement officers and on ice and our border patrol, can you believe it? people that keep us safe. their new platform, what they want to do, the democrat party, they want to abolish ice. in other words, they want to let ms-13 rule our country. that's not going to happen. every day the brave men and women of ice are liberating communities and towns from savage gangs like ms-13 that are
occupying our country like another nation would. we want maximum border security and respect for our heroes ice, border patrol, and law enforcement. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: and we are going to have tremendous border security that will include the wall, that will include the wal wall. [cheers and applause] a lot of people don't know what, but we've already started the wall. we've got $1.6 billion and we've started large portions of the wall, but we are going to need -- even the way we negotiate, we are going to need
more, to get more, and we may have to do some pretty drastic things, but we are going to get it. the democrats are not voting for what we want to do and they are not voting and allowing our values to take place in our country. we are tracking down the gang members and we are tracking down the drug dealers and the child predators and the criminal aliens and we are throwing them in jail, we are throwing them the hell out of our country. [cheers and applause] in some states democrats are even trying to give illegal immigrants the right to vote. they want to give them the right to vote. [boos]
and what about all of those people that are waiting in line for seven, eight, nine, ten years trying to get into our country? they don't have the right to vote. we believe that only american citizens should vote in american elections. [cheers and applause] which is why the time has come for voter i.d., like everything else. voter i.d. if you go out and you want to buy groceries, you need a picture on a card, you need i.d. you go out and you want to buy anything, you need i.d. and you need your picture. in this country the only time you don't need it in many cases is when you want to vote for a
president, when you want to vote for a senator, when you want to vote for a governor or a congressman, it's crazy. it's crazy. but we are turning it around. remember i said it's awfully early to be thinking this, but i always think it. remember the attack on merry christmas? they are not attacking it anymore. everybody is happy to say merry christmas, right? merry christmas. merry christmas. that was undersea. you have these big department stores that say happy holidays. they say where's the merry christmas. now they are all putting up merry christmas again. [cheers and applause] and that's because -- only because of our campaign. and by the way, the evangelicals and paula white, pastor paula white, the evangelicals have been so amazing to us. they came out and they voted,
84% and double and triple the numbers that ever voted an election before. we love the evangelical christians. if you want safety, if you want borders, if you want to have a country, then you need to go out and vote republican. and very importantly, you need to go out and vote for ron desantis for governor of florida. the lobbyists and special interests fighting against my administration, many of them, they care what happens in other countries. i care what's happening in the usa.
[cheers and applause] [crowd chanting "usa"] >> president trump: they are the geniuses who came up with our terrible trade deals, one after another. how about nafta, remember when they signed nafta? remember they signed nafta and everybody just moved their countries to my company's down to mexico and these people are saying isn't that a wonderful thing? no, it's not a wonderful thing and those companies are now moving back. [cheers and applause] these other people who lost trillions of dollars overseas and who gave us our horrible immigration laws. these laws are the worst. i am for america first in the american worker. we want to be a puppet for no
one any longer. we are not going to be a puppet any longer. my only special interest is you, the citizens of the united states. i've had a great career, i had a lot of fun, even in florida i had a great career. i've had a lot of fun. i've done great. i've done really well, beyond anything i could have ever expected and then i ran for president with no experience and i won. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: but you actually won. i told the story the other day, i was probably in washington in my entire life 17 times. 17 times. i don't think i ever stayed overnight. you know what i'm getting at, right? and we have a great cabinet now,
a couple of little changes, but we have a great cabinet, mike pompeo as secretary of state. so many great people. and we are really -- we have just incredible people, but i made some choices that i wouldn't have made, but i'm writing down pennsylvania avenue. again, i've only been here about 17 times and probably seven of those times was to check out the hotel i'm building on pennsylvania avenue and then i hop on the plane and i go back. so i've been there 17 times, never stayed there at night i don't believe and then i'm writing down in his beautiful car, picked up at the airport by secret service, holding the hands of our great first lady. [cheers and applause]
and i look at her and i say honey, guess what? i'm president of the united states. [cheers and applause] president of the united states! and i didn't know anybody in washington, but now i know everybody in washington. i know the good ones, i know the bad ones. i know the wonderful people and i know this. and america now is winning again like they haven't won before. we passed the biggest tax cuts and reform in american history. the biggest cuts in history! more than 100 utilities have slashed rates for consumers, including right here from duke energy and tampa electric.
your rates have gone down. over $300 billion poured back into the united states in the first quarter and we expect to be taken back because of our new tax cut and reform plan that passed bigger than anything ever in our country, we expect to be taking back from overseas over $4 trillion. that's a lot of money. would never have come back before. and if our opponent had won and the democrats had won, they would have put more regulations on. they would have raised your taxes. if they would have opened your borders, gotten rid of law enforcement. they would not have helped your military, and you know what? our country would be going to hell. and instead of going up, the market would be half of what it was if we are lucky because
frankly, the tax cuts were incredible to what we've done, but may be even more important are the cuts in these horrible regulations that didn't allow anybody to do anything. job killing regulations. we've gotten rid of more regulations than any president in the history of the united states and that's done in less than two years. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: i withdrew the united states from the unfair, one-sided, very, very expensive job killing terrorists climate record. [cheers and applause] we repealed the core of obamacare, the individual mandate is gone. the individual mandate. that's a beauty.
only the past administration could have come up with this. that's where you pay a lot of money for the privilege of not paying in order to have poor health care. other than that it's a wonderful thing. so you pay all this money for the privilege of not having to pay and health care no good to start off with and we are doing great on health care. we are allowing americans to buy better health care for less money through association, including across state lines, you are getting tremendous competition. we passed the biggest va reform in half a century. veterans choice. if our veterans can't get the care they need from the va, they will have the right to go see a private doctor, we will pay for the doctor and frankly we will save a lot of money and we will help a lot of vets.
[cheers and applause] everybody said they've been trying to get it for 45 years, everybody said you can't get it. think of it. veterans choice, they have to stand -- these are our great people. who's a veteran in this audience? [cheers and applause] >> president trump: do you like trump? do like the drop we are doing? now think of it, 45 years, everybody said you will never get it passed. and i used to say before i really was well-versed on the veteran situation in health care, i used to say all the time, why don't they just let the folks go to a doctor? they wait in line for seven days, nine days, 14 days, 21 days. some of them started off with a very modest problem. they end up being terminal because they can't see a doctor. i said why don't they just let them go see a local private doctor, pay the bill and take care of it?
it will be a lot less expensive, and it has turned out to be something that the veteran's. they love it. and it has passed. it's past. they've been trying to get it passed for 38 years. the other one is 45 and that's va accountability. if somebody treated our veterans badly, if they stole, -- you know this, if they were sadistic, if they were really bad to our vets, really, really bad, we couldn't do anything about it, they could steal, they could rob, they could be abusive, you couldn't say you are fired, now you can say you're fired. [cheers and applause] made a big difference. that was another one for said he will never get it done. between civil service and unions, we love them both, but
between civil service and unions, they said you will never get it done, you will never get it approved, and by the way, we had virtually no help. very little from democrats. very little. not because it's not not because it's not right, but they don't want to give them any victory. look at judge kavanaugh. this is a great, highly respected man. and the good news is the republicans i believe are close to 100% which is what we need. so far, the democrats haven't given us any votes and that's because they will do anything they can to not help the trump agenda, even though they know it's wrong. and brett kavanaugh, highest
education, best grades, best test, best everything, they thought 15 years ago he was going to be a supreme court judge. look at justice gorsuch, how good is he? [cheers and applause] so we are getting him through but it's not easy because they really are. you know, the term they use is resist. it's actually resist and obstruct. whatever they can do to resist and obstruct. and frankly, the they are lousy politicians and they have horrible policy. the one thing they are good at, they stick together and they obstruct and it's unfortunate. you know we have almost 400 people trying to get into government, many of whom have left their jobs, and the democrats are holding them up with maximum delay. they are holding them up, not allowing these great people to serve their country. it's a disgrace.
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determine which party controls whether you keep your health care. whether you get tax cuts, or just the rich and big corporations do. whether polluters will continue to be unleashed to befoul the air and water you breathe and yes, the fate of the mueller probe into whether the trump campaign colluded with russia when they attacked our election in 2016 with a goal of electing donald trump. press conference in which five of donald trump's own intelligence officials warned the american people about how dangerous the russian threat is to this country and to the upcoming elections. laid out what the agencies are doing to stop it. and yet, at his rally in pennsylvania, their boss, donald trump, continued to deny russian interference in our elections, didn't happen at all. calling it a hoax just hours
after his own government said the opposite. undercutting his administration again. no signs of intention on countering the russian threat. joining me now is adam elevelev. legal analyst, paul butler and scholar of authoritarian state and author of view from flyover country. dispatches from the forgotten america. everyone is with me as i pop in my chair. let's start with you adam on the question of the election threat. we saw this press conference. everybody seemed to tune in. giving aide and comfort to the
enemy. this is a national security issue. there's no blue states, red states, it's the united states. there aren't good people on both sides. there's one side. walk out to camera, one after the other. take questions. and really make very starkly clear that the threat to our elections is still ongoing. did you see that as a directive potentially from the president or did you see that as maybe the agency taking matters into their own hands. >> my sense, even though they said it was a directive from the president. i felt the agency this is their responsibility. carrying out their responsibility. doing what they need to do in order to help this country get through this. the real issue is why was this 95 days before the election.
sgra sgra great job on realtime. you talked very bluntly about the threat to our election, about what it means, about what the russians want to do. talking about the threat. believe it or not, both from the same day, thursday. >> we had a great meeting with russia. we had a great meeting with putin. >> i'm not in a position to either understand fully or talk about what happened in helsinki. >> if i get along with vladimir putin, that's a good thing. d san antonio secretary. all come out and say there's a threat.
might be in collusion with russia. i got the impression he was almost asking russia to interfere on that level. the same way he did last year almost this time last year with the russia if you're listening statement. we know of two democratic united states senators who have been already targeted. we have claire mccaskill come out and admit one of the lawmakers targeted by russian bad actors. contacted through staff last november by individual who said he worked for the foreign ministry of latvia.
democrats, what does that tell you about whether or not russia is at all deterred? >> well, russia is not deterred. russia has never been deterred. put man in the white house. let's say that bluntly. they now have a working partner in the president of the united states. the president will not lead on this. whatever his oath is sworn to, it is not sworn to the constitution of the united states. one last thing about him and the democrats. every person who is affiliated with the democratic party who is one degree of separation from any one of their politicians, you are at risk. they will go to and three degrees of separation from some of these people to go to your e-mails, even if you're a con stitch went that sent e-mails because you have to remember the
democratic national committee was vacuumed clean of all of its mailing list. so do not -- adam levine will tell you, do not click on anything when it comes into your inbox. >> you're amening that. i see you nodding there. the belief is the russian attack also included grabbing from the rnc. n just never released. still directly focused on democrats. is there alarm out there. does seem the russians are trying to do the same thing to try to achieve the same partisan result. >> people are not worried enough. they haven't been all along. russia has been attacking infrastructure for a number of years. attacked the state department, dod, rnc, dnc, voters rules. penetrated voter databases. we've known this a long time. as pointed out, people haven't taken initiatives. three things i'm worried about going into the midterms.
one is that our election -- we may be hacked again by russia. trying to delegitimize those wins. rhetorical tactic they may well use much as last year they claim the election is going to be rigged. prompted the democratic to say it can't be rigged which backed them in the a corner after the election. the third thing is that the gop may simply not concede. we need to remember roy moore for example never conceded. this is party not interest instead democracy. want a one party state to protect the president whose loyalty is not to this country. i think they will go through any means necessary to try to do that.
make sure no vulnerabilities and educating elected and appointed officials in terms of how to protect yourself with fishing, hacking and those kinds of things. >> i'll ask you, paul, is there some sort of legal remedy for voters if your state is run by a party or entities who just refuse to do any of that. about the russian attacks of democracy, that's also of a piece with why they seem relatively unconcerned with states trying to limit people's ability to vote in other ways. and so the supreme court is considering cases where the states are trying to dilute voting. at the end of the day, we have
to wonder how much americans care about democracy. >> that's the question. do they want to stop it? >> no, they don't. despite everything everyone just said, very good advice, people need no go out and vote anyway. if you value freedom, value democracy, get out and vote. even if you think they are trying to rig it. one thing may help in our favor is overwhelming turnout. so just be aware. take precautions and vote. >> malcolm, you said vote on paper if you can. absentee voting make your safer. >> yes, this is the year to vote early. and then facilitate other people to vote early. and then if you're not going to be there, vote early on paper. get your vote in way ahead of time. in terms of early election. make a statement the democrats are working with republicans look real so they of course could not concede or demand
invalidate the election. that's the worst-case scenario to me. it is harder to flip an election if the election is not close. we're going to have more on this coming up as we get towards the election. paul is going to come back later in the show. adam, malcolm, thank you all very much. up next, hours before he heads to ohio. donald trump, calls ohio's favorite son dumb. he goes after the king. i don't know that was a wise move. more on that when we come back. fact is, every insurance company hopes you drive safely. but allstate actually helps you drive safely... with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast...
trump not only uses sports to divide people. seems to relish in taking a shot at people of color. in a tweet overnight. questioned the intelligence of cnn anchor don lemon and nba star lebron james. that would be emmy and edward r award winning don lemon and four time league mvp. trump took that shot at james as he walked don lemon through the new elementary school for at risk children that he recently opened in his hometown of akron ohio. school where kids receive free transportation within two miles. free bikes with bike helmets. free uniforms, food pantries for family and free tuition at the university of akron when they graduate. makes this claim even more off key. >> this is probably the most
proactive administration we've got in urban america and faith based community in my lifetime. bill 60 years old in december. to be honest, this is probably going to be -- i'm going to say at this table, most problack president we've had in our lifetime. >> uh-huh. >> joining me now is sports contribute for forbes and author of white like me. that pastor is one of the fa favorites of donald trump who claims donald trump is the most p pro-black president ever. you're laughing. why are you laughing? >> well, i think it's just very obvious and joy, i'm going to tell you something else that's very obvious. this mad tweet he had last night, in it he said he prefers michael jordan over lebron james and that's not by coincidence. you remember old commercial back in 1990s. be like mike. >> remember those. >> we have it. we can show a little bit of it.
>> well, let's see that. okay. when donald trump says that, he is not referring to that. michael jordan is the most apolitical athlete of all time and disgusting. given tall power michael jordan may have. whether or not michael jordan made the statement to why he's apolitical. this is not in dispute. back in the 80s and 90s, when he played for chicago bulls, he had a teammate named craig who tried to get michael jordan top join him and other bulls players to talk to youth. black youth and chicago. and he wouldn't do it. he didn't want that image. okay. also not a dispute.
also knows in contrast to that you have lebron james not been outspoken, but become a piper to get other athletes involved in the social activism. and the biggest thing he is also putting money where his mouth is. big time. he called trump a bum. >> exactly. >> you know he didn't like that. >> tim, with a lot of donald trump's antipathies whether it's against the "new york times" or the media or cnn or nbc, they're always is this element of sort of what looks like underlying anger because he really wanted to be friendly with this sort of celebrity aspect of prominent person. he wanted their respect and admiration. originally a fan of barack obama before he decided to turn on him and go birther. interesting because donald trump back in 2015 was a stand for lebron james. tweeting positively. great king james.
tough competitor delivers under pressure. then of course came the famous you bum, tweet. in which lebron james was supporting steph curry for not going to the white house over charlottesville and other aspects trump said about race. part of this is about celebrity who we're going to show. here isn't this a little bit about envy. >> it is partly that. let's not pretend it's just that. it's not just about race and playing to a base of supporters who appreciate it when he attacks black people. like steve cur with the warriors, former coach of the pist pist pistons. they all went in on donald trump and frankly used language and
critiques for more biting than what lebron said. yet donald trump says nothing about white coaches who criticize him why because they doesn't pay the same cachet as attacking black folks. whether trump administration white nba or whether it's people like lebron in the nba. so i think we have to recognize there's a very deliberate pattern and also notice the kind of critique. he criticizes a lot of people because what better to do at 4:30 in the morning when your president of the united states than rage tweet, but what he does is he specifically attacks black people's intelligence, whether it's don lemon, whether it's lebron, whether it's maxine waters. likes to use low iq slur. for white folks he uses other types of attacks. i'm not saying he never attacks white folks. he's very specific about the kinds of attacks that he uses on black people and that's not a
coincidence. >> i just to that very point, dan rather made a similar point. apparently what the president of the united states feels he needs to share with the world at which should be long past his bedtime. it's the product of petty, but dangerous hatred. to that very point, donald trump as used that intelligence slur on other black folks as well. congress woman maxine waters long time elected official, obviously very intelligent woman. here's donald trump attacking her on just thursday in pennsylvania. you know who the new leader is, maxine waters. very low iq. low iq. >> and then here is donald trump attacking president obama, barack obama back in 2011. >> i heard he's a bad student. how does a bad student then go to columbia and then go to harvard? how does this happen?
he's a bad student, gets into columbia, top school. gets into harvard, top, top, top school. he's a bad student. how does this happen? >> reinforcing your point, tim. >> this is a buy the who graduated magna couple lawdy from harvard law. head of law review. don't give that out for the hell of it. donald trump has always realized he himself got into penn because the dean felt sorry for dead brother. he didn't get in the traditional way at ivy league school himself. this is a lot of projection on his part. constantly claiming black people don't deserve what they have. the attacks on ballplayers, message to his base is how dare these powerful wealthy black people criticize the country because for black people who have been successful to do so is seen by a lot of white folks on the right as ungrateful. when rich white people like
donald trump criticize america in front of vladimir putin and the press. or criticize on the campaign trail, make america great again. that is apparently okay. god forbid a black person take a knee and protest a racism in the justice system because then they're being ungrateful. part of a long standing and ultimately race resentful and racist pattern. >> here's the thing. >> go on. yes. >> because think about something tim said earlier. probably the greatest coach right now. san antonio spurs and been extremely outspoken against donald trump. ripped him to shreds. i had a conversation this past nba season and i pulled him aside and talked about the donald trump thing. i asked him how many times have you been tweeted against by donald trump? how many times have you been called out by donald trump?
how many times has donald trump called you personally or anybody around you to say he disliked the things you said and popivic did this. 0. 0 times. so tim is on to something there. to piggyback on the black thing about how he is attacking these black athletes or just blacks in general, that's why i love lebron james. okay. lebron james will not be intimidated by this guy. he can't stand donald trump. lebron james, you look at his background to where he came from in akron ohio to where he is right now, it's a phenomenal story and for this guy to be this brilliant spokesperson, very strong and doesn't back down, those are the type of guys that donald trump attacks so in a weird way, this is a huge compliment not only to lebron james, but anybody who is african-american who dare to stand up and tell the truth about this guy.
>> he's heading to ohio for a rally. the school is incredible. lebron james is putting his money where his mouth is. educated. very wealthy and very popular. can't make donald trump happy. thank you guys very much. appreciate you both. meanwhile, the manafort trial continues. we will bring you the latest details next.
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long before the election took place. he was only there a short period of time. >> paul manafort is a nice guy. worked for me for a very short period of time. literally like, what, a couple of months. little period of time. >> manafort has nothing to do with our campaign. >> paul manafort the former trump campaign chair whose role trump spent months trying to down play went on trial in virginia for tax and bank fraud charges. so far prosecutors outline what they say was lavish lifestyle. he seemed to be a particular fan of rare bird costumes. allegedly financed with some of the more than $60 million he raked in working for a pro russia political party. made a significant percentage of the earnings from the irs. while on friday, manafort's
bookkeeper testified she not only knew about his tax fraud, but that she went along with it because she was afraid to confront a long time client. join me now, former campaign adviser david k johnson, even worse than you think. i'll ask you both. start with you sam, explicitly the manafort trial is not about donald trump, but implicitly the manafort trial is about why someone who was earning $60 million working for pro russia ukrainian party suddenly working for free for donald trump and apparently was broke. >> i was happy when manafort got hired. i wanted corey lewandowski pushed out of the campaign. what was manafort going be paid? wasn't going to be able to get organization. trump was not going to give anybody money on the back end for commercials. what was he not getting a $20,000 a month salary. him coming in also for free
having owned an apartment in trump tower, trump had been familiar with him because of the 80s. helped also strategically to push out cory reed who was going to give him problems. >> what was manafort going to get then if he wasn't getting money. >> publicity. get back in the game. now he was able -- in the very least had cory not been fired, he was going to run the delegate campaign. he was always upset and had a falling out with rick davis in 2008 for mccain. rick pushed him out and didn't want him involved. didn't want manafort involved in the delegates there a. >> that's my benign explanation. >> one more to you before i bring david in. you have paul manafort who got relationships with pro russia forces in ukraine. the one thing that gets changed by the trump campaign in the
republican plank was the ukraine plank in the -- in the rnc platform to make it more russia. then you've got roger stone who is manafort's long time business partner who comes in and low and behold he's talking to guccifer 2.0. trying to get dirt on hillary clinton. it does feel like at the end of the day what manafort and stone were doing was edging that campaign closer to russia. >> the reality is in terms of roger, i didn't want to say publically. donald trumproger. i had to fight with then candidate donald trump. i was the first political higher. took a salary of $10,000 a month. normally would have been $20,000. part of it was i negotiated with then mr. trump to say please bring radiologier in. i was loyal to roger roger helped me get in this working for trump. i was going to need his help. whatever you think about him, he happens to be smart and have
good political background. trump didn't want him involved. okay. this whole idea when -- and i can certainly tell you when bannon took over the campaign, cory was kind of put back into the atmosphere, roger had nothing to do with the campaign. he didn't -- he hadn't set foot in the trump tower at least until december or november after trump was elected from the time manafort left the campaign. >> at the same time, david k johnson, what you do have is a lot of people and starting with manafort who seem to have relationships that were russia related. and that they were attempting at least it looks like to put into the service of that campaign. >> all of this goes back to russia and i must say i'm impressed with sam's ability to take this off from minutia and not deal with the issue right in front of us. paul manafort was in desperate financial strain. we know that from testimony and documents in the trial. he takes a job for free and the reason you do that is you're
hoping that this loss-leader will get you other work in the future and low and behold e-mails showing that paul manafort was right up there offering private briefings and talking to the russians. there's a word for all of this by the way. it's called conspiracy. and it is conspiracy to defraud the united states of america. that is exactly what was going on here. >> do you have a sense, david, from your reporting of how it is that somebody who earned $60 million working for a pro russia ukraine faction ended up broke. >> the man spent wildly beyond his means. i've written about a lot of people who have gone through incredible fortunes one way or another. this brings up another important issue. that is we have 160 million taxpayers in this country. we have about 1600 tax prosecutions a year and most of those are drug traffickers or politicians that took bribes. we don't make any serious effort in this country to go after very high income tax cheats and boy
is paul manafort's record in this trial showing that they have a slam dunk case for calculated tax cheating. >> before i come back to sam, do you think that manafort eventually particularly if he's convicted will turn state's evidence against donald trump. >> i have no way of knowing. it's always been my theory that manafort has done so many illegal things and so deep that his only hope was to avoid going to trial and delay. >> i've got to come to you and give you an opportunity to respond to roger stone who you just talked about. you said you had to beg his way on the campaign. he actually trashed you. on air, you were on and you said you believe that roger stone will be indicted. he responded to that by going after your anatomy. >> very nice. >> by saying you're an alcoholic and saying some other untoward things about you. you want to respond. we've got it on the screen for people to see. i don't have to read it. >> this is wonderful.
my response is first off, i had warned roger throughout the campaign not to communicate, not to pretend he was communicating with julian assange, not to even communicate with guccifer, i have no idea about these direct. i have no idea about direct messages over twitter. roger may not like it. i don't support him getting indicted. i don't support this why thad if roger was talking to guccifer was a conspiracy to defraud america. roger has gotten us all involved in this investigation. i would not have been called in, but for my relationship with roger. i was the campaign all of six weeks. i don't presently have a good relationship with the president. it is what it is. i'm sorry. i don't like that he's getting indicted. i didn't like having to spend legal fees and go into the grand jury and meet where robert mueller's team. you think that's fun. no. >> at the end of the day, you think manafort will flip. >> no, i don't think he will. i don't think he will. what is he going to get for one
i don't know what he does. >> that's probably not the case. >> sam. david, thank you guys. have you back. coming up in your next hour, robert mueller makes another effort to get trump to testify. and sessions launches a holy war. stay with us. possibilities than ever before. and american express has your back every step of the way- whether it's the comfort of knowing help is just a call away with global assist. or getting financing to fund your business. no one has your back like american express. so where ever you go. we're right there with you. the powerful backing of american express. don't do business without it. don't live life without it.
attorney general jefferson sessions announced a zero tolerance border at the border forcing families to be separated. hundreds of children remain apart from their parents and now the trump administration is trying to make the aclu solve the problem that the administration created. joining me now is jacob soboroff. jacob, what was the response of the court to the request from the trump administration that the aclu, a private civil rights organization, reunite some 500 parents that the trump administration separated from their kids? >> so we can't actually see into this courtroom, joy, because they are now doing telephone conferences which you can listen in and i can imagine that the judge was kind of just like what -- what is this? i mean, that was what he said. he said this is an unacceptable plan, the idea that the trump administration which systematically separated 2,551 kids is now saying to the organization that is suing it, hey, why don't you guys take the lead in reuniting the remaining
572 children since essentially you want to do it so bad. it's just a bizarre idea. that's really the only way to describe it. why would the trump administration put onus on the agency, the group, the outside group, nonprofit group, with limited resources, finite resources that is suing it to do -- to do its own dirty work basically. >> it's pretty incredible. another thing that's happening this week is we're learning more about the facilities where both children that were separated by the trump administration and children who were unaccompanied or have been held and three quick stories, a pro publica piece, a worker charged with sexually molesting eight children at one of these immigrant shelters. there has been increasingly intense scrutiny of the federally funded privately run shelters. pro publica can a reported police nationwide have responded to hundreds of calls reporting possible sex crimes at shelters
that serve immigrant industry. an an nbc report that ordered kids removed from a shelter that was using psychotropic drugs and a girl that escaped from a detention center and was to scared that she was quivering in the corner. >> we're putting migrant children into these facilities which we call shelters in lieu of finding a better solution for dealing with an influx, which is, by the way, no the just during the trump administration but during the obama administration, even before that which has a long history of people coming into the united states. we were cold when we were down there at the southwest key facility which is the organization that mansion one of the groups in that story about the molestations that they do give children medication without the permission of their parents because the children are essentially in the custody of hhs. they told us when we were there, here are telephones to deal with incidences of sexual abuse and
sexual assault inside these facilities. none of this stuff is new but it's symptomatic of a larger problem which is the inability -- first of all, it's horrific, secondly it's systematic of a larger problem which is the inability of the united states government to actually deal with in a holistic way migrants coming into this country in an undocumented fashion and the trump administration exacerbated it on an exponential scale by taking kids away from their parents. >> i understand you have a documentary out, there is a short documentary you have created about life after reunification. >> we teamed up with the nbc left field unit which is our experimental documentary unit and you are taking a look at maria and her boys, franklin and byron. they came from honduras, they were separated and put into that facility in mcallen, the kids were put into cages that i saw with my own eyes. it took them a month and a half to get reunited. there are 572 that still haven't been put together with their parents u parents, but the 1,400 that have have a long way to go.
attorney general jeff sessions has made a asylum claims more difficult and there are parents that face immediate deportation as of today. >> where can we see this? >> nbcnews.com/left field. >> excellent. everybody please check that off. jacob, you've been doing great work. thank you. >> more "a.m. joy" after the break. into making america's #1 shave. precision machinery and high-quality materials from around the world. nobody else even comes close. now starting at $7.99. gillette. the best a man can get.
counsel. why are you dragging it out? don't you know what you want to do now? >> yeah, sure i do. i don't want to do it. >> it is now past the fourth of july where do we stand? >> we would not recommend an interview for the president unless they can satisfy us that there is some -- some basis for this investigation. >> we haven't made a final decision there is still a slight opening. >> we're still -- i'm not going to give you a lot of hope that it's going to happen but we are still negotiating, with he haven't stopped negotiating with theme. >> welcome back to a.m. skroi. the on again off again question of whether donald trump will sit down with special counsel robert mueller appears to be back on. according to "politico" rudy giuliani says a decision on whether trump will grant an interview will happen in the next week to ten days. you might want to take that with a grain of salt, this isn't the first time giuliani has invoked a short timetable on making a decision on the interview, it was supposed to be made back in may, then in june, then once again in july. trump himself said this in january. >> are you going to talk to
mueller? >> i'm looking forward to it, actually. >> you want to? >> just so you understand, there has been no collusion whatsoever. there is no obstruction whatsoever. and i'm looking forward to it. >> trump apparently is still pushing his lawyers to make the interview happen. in a recent report from "the new york times" gives some insight as to why. according to the times, get this, trump, quote, believes he can convince the investigators for the special counsel, robert mueller, of his belief that their own inquiry is a witch-hunt. joining me now democratic congressman from california eric swal we will, jill wine-banks, former senior fbi official chuck rosenberg and professor of law at georgetown university school of law paul butler. thank you all for being here. congressman, your thoughts on the idea that donald trump believes that his powers of persuasion are so great that he will be able to you can walk into robert mueller's investigative unit and convince them that their investigation is a witch-hunt. >> what's taking so long, joy,
if that's really what he believes, he is the one that complains every day that this investigation is taking so long and it looks like they've interviewed everyone that donald trump has ever known except donald trump. so, you know, for all the complaints he has about the length of this investigation, if he were to just answer the questions that by the way have already been provided to him i bet this whole investigation would be wrapped up a lot sooner. >> the other question s and i can't resist asking you this because you do serve in the u.s. house of representatives where your colleagues on the other side of the aisle have also claimed that this was a witch-hunt, have also a couple of them threatened to impeach r rod rosen stein. is there any embarrassment at the stance they've taken? >> zero, joy. and i think that that will only come from the voters this november. i've heard across the country, i've been helping a lot of our younger candidates running across the country and going to
their districts in rural areas, in suburban areas. this issue is actually very much at the top of their mind. not so much as to what did the president do with the russians. they're going to let bob mueller figure that out, but what is the president doing to the rule of law and to our democracy and who is willing to stand up to him as he is a wrecking ball. i think the republicans are going to pay a price this november and i hope those that have been fearful of doing the right thing because they don't want the president to tweet at them or call them out in a speech, i hope in january when it's a democratic majority they realize it's time to do the right thing because we are going to have two more years of this wrecking ball and it's time for all of us to put our hands together and push that big red button that will make it stop. >> a lot of law degrees in front of me, including yourself congressman. i want to go around the horn to our legal panel. i will start with chuck rosenberg new to the show and get your reaction to what the mueller team that is proposed in terms of an interview with
donald trump. this is according to the new york times, this he would discuss possible coordination with trump associates and the russians whether trump tried to obstruct justice, this he would agree to accept some written answers from the president and preserve the ability to have trump answer follow-up questions in person. what do you make of that proposal? is that standard operating procedure? how unusual would that be? >> there's nothing standard about this, joy, but what i think mueller and his team are trying to do here, and it's a strategic decision, is avoid a fight. meaning if they can get all or most of what they need voluntarily, that's better than issuing a grand jury subpoena and litigating the issue inevitably before the supreme court. there is a difference between need and want. all prosecutors, and i was a federal prosecutor for a long time -- all prosecutors want as much evidence as they can possibly get. they want to talk to every single person connected to the investigation. this he would want to talk to the president. but do they need it? and the answer is perhaps not
because through other witnesses, through the president's own public statements, through documents, through e-mails, through bank records, through tax returns they can get most of what they need. i think that's an important distinction. >> and, chuck, do you think that the concern among mueller's team might be that if, as you said, this he may not need to have donald trump's testimony, but that if they didn't get it and then they were to issue a report without having spoken to him, are they concerned do you think about the perception that the process may not have been as fair to him as possible? >> well, and, joy, that's an excellent point. that's why they have to try to get it. so getting it voluntarily, perhaps not under ideal terms, but getting most of what they need and want voluntarily allows them to write a full report and to detail all the facts they found, including what the president told them. >> jill wine-banks then you have the other question of compulsion, of what power the mueller grand jury has to compel the president of the united states to testify. we know in the nixon case that
there was an ability to compel the president to turn over documents, but what happens if donald trump, let's say, refuses a subpoena? >> well, the same thing would have happened in watergate if the president had refused the subpoena, his daughters accepted the physical service of the subpoena and then he refused to comply with it and it went to the supreme court and the supreme court in very clear terms 8-0 with one judge recused from the case said that there was an absolute right for the prosecution to have the documents and that the president wasn't above the law and had to turn them over. i would predict that the same would be true for testimony, that the supreme court would say that there is a right for the prosecution if there's no other way to get the evidence to get it from the president. so he would be forced to testify. if i could go on to something that chuck said, there is a big difference between need and
want, and the only reason that i can see that mueller might want the testimony is because if he has it in advance, one, it is something that will then look completely fair, the president had his shot at convincing the grand jury that it was a witch-hunt or that he was innocent, but also because he would then -- he, mueller, would then know trump's defense and he would be able to answer that in advance. so if he's issuing a report, the report would be able to say, here is the case that we have and here is the defense and here is why the defense doesn't stand up. so i think there is an advantage to both sides, the president gets his shot at convincing the grand jury and the prosecution gets a chance to know in advance and answer it in advance because the strongest defense is by saying it in advance. so it's much better for the prosecution to be able to say in the report what their answer is.
>> and, paul butler, let's go down the theoretical road for a moment. jill has laid down in the nixon case you had an 8-0 ruling that the president had to turn over documents. let's say in the current court you get a 5-4 which is the most likely outcome ruling that donald trump had to appear before the grand jury, that he had to answer a subpoena, and donald trump simply say no, then what happens? >> well, he could be required to come in and take the fifth amendment, which he would have a constitutional right to do if he would be exposed to charges by testifying. you know, if mueller does not require or subpoena trump to testify i think there are three pocke possibilities, the first is as jill and chuck said mueller believes that he does not need trump's testimony to make his case, the second possibility is the case as you note, joy, would almost certainly go to the supreme court and maybe mueller
doesn't want that protracted litigation, the third possibility if mueller does not subpoena trump is that mueller now sees trump as a target of the investigation. heretofore trump has been a subject, kind of like a person of interest, but the department has a policy where it does not subpoena targets. so if he's not subpoenaed that could be quite bad news for president trump. >> and i want to come back very quickly, congressman, while we are on the theoretical thing -- sort of questions. the "washington post" has a piece out about why trump's lawyers fear an interview with mueller. here is piece, it says trump's lawyers don't just fear that he will lie to mueller about his efforts to scuttle the investigation, it's very likely that they also fear might tell the truth about those efforts which could also be incriminating. let's say donald trump were to go in, give this interview, incriminate himself in a way that compelled robert mueller to write a report that would
normally produce impeachable offenses, what would then happen in the house of representatives? >> that's right, joy. i actually believe that this has always been hurdling towards, well, wouldn't we want to know what the russians had on hillary clinton anyway? you've seen trump associates intimate that, whether it's rudy giuliani or even donald trump defending his son taking the meeting last year saying this happens all the time in politics. i think that's where it ultimately goes and so then it really comes to the house judiciary committee where i sit and it's a question of do we believe that president trump is above the law and we're just going to give him a pass or do we say that it doesn't matter what his political party is, you cannot work with a foreign adversary to beat your opponent and you have to be held accountable. i think the best way, joy, is to find a bipartisan way to investigate this president, but again, if that's not going to happen, then republicans are going to lose this november at the ballot box because the
american people do not believe anyone is above the law, not this president and they are going to want him to be held accountable if he crossed some red lines. >> chuck, i think a lot of people who have been watching this saga play out over time and have watched donald trump do have that question of even though you would serve a subpoena. you literally -- and i will throw this out to all my lawyers on the panel, start with you, chuck, what happens if a subpoena is served to donald trump in which he is compelled to testify before the grand jury and he simply refuses to take it. who will make him take it? >> right. so for you or me, joy, if we refuse to take a subpoena, if we refuse service or if we -- we're served, if someone handed us a subpoena and we didn't show up we would be held in con emt it, it's pretty simple. and that happens from time to time. this is a much tougher question and i would actually be fascinated to know what jill has to say about it because i can almost assure you they had to have had this conversation with respect to president nixon. you know, the president is surrounded by federal law enforcement officers. >> that's right.
>> every day. we happen to call them secret service agents. i would imagine we would be putting them in a very difficult position if we asked one of them to serve a subpoena on the sitting president when their main job, their primary job is to protect him. i would love to know what jill has to say about this. >> j i wilill? >> well, it was definitely a subject of discussion. we debated how we would get it to him, but it was very simple because richard nixon for all his flaws did believe in the rule of law and he agreed to accept service through his attorneys, which is, of course, a normal proceeding. then we had the question of, okay, now we've won the case, how are we going to get the tapes? the court said we have a right to them. you can't just send someone into the white house. there are guards all around. >> right. >> luckily, again, they actually did eventually turn them over. they agreed to turn them over and they did turn them over. so we were lucky, but it is a
real issue that was very current because there was an issue about jared kushner being -- resisting service in a new york case brought by the dnc and secret service would not allow process servers to approach the house and serve him. of course, they weren't authorized representatives to accept service as attorneys might be and eventually the dnc went to court and said, your honor, the only way we can get it to him is through the u.s. mail which will be delivered to his house, and eventually the secret service said, well, we made a mistake and you can actually serve him and so he has now accepted service, but it had to go to court and they had to say, well, we will serve it by u.s. mail. that will get to him. >> yeah. >> hey, joy, i have an idea as to where you could serve him. >> yeah. >> give it to his caddy, that's where you're most likely to find him, on the golf course. >> bring it right on the putting green, like that may be the way
to go. before we go i have to ask jill wine-banks what's your pin? >> my pin is a goose because i think manafort's goose is cooked. the evidence is really strong, it's gone in very well and the defense hasn't dented it. mrs. manafort left the courtroom in tears after the testimony about her husband hiding accounts and lying about his taxes. >> i can't hear. >> that's why i'm wearing this pin today. >> the goose is cooked. the pins need their own book. do the pins have a twitter account yet? >> they do. it's #jill'spins. >> i'm tolling that as soon as the show is over. thank you all very much. and next up donald trump stops pretending to be a populist and flat out announces a huge tax cut for the super rich. that's next. (vo) why do subaru forester owners always seem so happy? because they've chosen the industry leader.
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small businesses or farms, it's for the super rich. "the new york times" reports that the administration is considering bypassing congress to grant a $100 billion tax cut mainly to the wealthy. it's a move that could lead to a court challenge. the george h.w. bush administration considered a similar move back in 1992 only to back off after concluding that the treasury department didn't have the authority to do it on its own. joining me now senior analyst ron ansana, robert p. jones ceo of the public religion research institute and republican strategist sara rumpf. who is it possible that they can they can pass this for the rich. >> they are contemplating an executive order that would allow the treasury department to index capital gains, those gains that you earn on stock price appreciation, real estate appreciation, any asset to inflation. >> okay. >> so instead of getting inflation creep where your
capital gains taxes go up you you get a break on that, it would cost the government $100 billion over ten years. >> you would be paying taxes on a lower stated income because you are able to write it down -- >> capital gains. >> you're saying that this is not actually something you can do without congress. >> not as far as we can tell. the power of the purse entirely resides with congress and the power to tax or reduce taxes for that matter resides with congress. i'm not sure what the basis is for this. >> yeah. >> but it doesn't seem plausible. >> there is a piece out where they say stop calling trump a populist. time enough to be judged on what he does not on what he says and his administration has been -- trump is about as populist as he is godly meaning not at all. how does he get away with the mon kerr of being a populist when what he does is to help the rich and hurt the working class. >> on one hand it's the lies. he continues to lie blatantly saying this piece of policy is
going to hurt him as a rich person. most republican presidents haven't been able to speak entire falsehoods like that about their agenda and get away. the second is the media, there was so much compare son between him and jeb bush and the field at the beginning. he was the most virulent racist in the field and the other was to throw this populist crud out there. he would praise bernie sanders, talk about protecting social security. i think the media got caught up in the fact that they are not used to that rhetoric and slapped a populist moniker on him. it is beyond time to stop allowing him to get away with it. >> some of us started talking about that in 2015. >> stop using the brand. sara, you write for red state, i read on a reg lace bases. when you go on sites like red
state there are things you just don't see. there are things that don't make headlines that aren't being emphasized because in the world of republicans donald trump is doing great, the economy is better than it's ever been as far as a lot of republicans are concerned. let's show this bikini chart. this is our favorite chart. it shows you what president obama inherited, that's a deep friend going down, the economy gets better, trump comes along, he hasn't appreciably changed the economy. the economy added 157,000 jobs in july, the unemployment rate did go down lower to 3.9%. he gets a lot of credit for it, but the economy is not better in the trump era than it was in the obama era. friday's report shows job growth is slower, at a slower rate than in five years. so how is it that donald trump gets this sort of credit for having somehow revolutionized an economy that he hasn't changed and why is it that the republican party doesn't care --
>> -- always take credit for the economy no matter what's going on. they want to take credit for when the stock market is going well, always want to take credit for unemployment rates going down. that's common. every single president in the modern era has done that. i am very proud of the fact that at red state we have diverse opinions on our front page about trump. this has been an interesting proposal to see because conservatives we spent several years criticizing obama for using his phone and his pen when he would get frustrated at congress and would snap to it and pass bills that he wanted to see. so, you know, this is a kind of situation where we have a president now and just because he's technical clee on our side if he's doing something that is traditionally very much within congress' wheelhouse this is a time where congressional republicans do need to step up and exert their authority and say this is supposed to be our job. >> they have never done that. when are they going to do that? they concierge for interest ump. >> a girl can dream. i'm saying it would be good to see. the i would like to see it, this
is something i'd like to see congress step up and say this is our job, step back. >> let me go to my data man. it is confounding to a lot of people, robbie, that you have republicans who ostensibly are against things like tariff, it hurts their base, hurts people growing soybeans when you have china slapping on additional tariffs, it hurts the steel industry. when you interview people who are personally being hurt they go i love trump even though they personally are being hurt. trump is saying i'm going to pass this giant tax cut just for the rich. the people who are getting nothing they don't mind. why is that? >> i think it's right to say that there is very little benefit to certainly white working class voters, 90% of these benefits will accrue to the top 1% of the population. it also goes against public sentiment. we have eight in ten americans saying we should raise taxes on the wealthy not lower them. if you pull the lens back we do see a lesson here.
it's always been a mistake to think of donald trump as an economist populist. there has been had a of dozen studies debunk that it was economic anxiety drivers voters to trump, instead it was cultural anxiety. his rhetoric around anti-immigrant, against muslims, those are the things that resonated with people as they were seeing a changing america and trump saying i'm the guy who is going to hold the line. i think thinking about trump as a white christian nationalist is the best way to understand trump support. doesn't matter what scandals we've seen, what policies we've seen. the other thing we want to point out here is that trump's favorable has been low but it has been very stable. four in ten all along the way and when we ask trump supporters if there was anything they could -- that trump could do to lose their support fully four in ten trump supporters say there's
virtually nothing he could do to lose my support. in many ways on something like this their support for him lies in the cultural not in the economic realm and given that strong support this many ways i think he has calculated rightly that he has something of a blank check here. >> meaning attracting lebron james is what's helping him. >> let me come back to in a second but the meat of the matter with respect to this capital gains tax cut is the argument is it will create more available capital for businesses to invest and create more jobs. same argument that was used for the larger scale tax cut. all the money is being used for stock buy backs, dividend increases, mergers and acquisitions not so much wages and jobs. we have a short j a of labor and a sur plaus of capital, we don't need more capital. we have 6.6 million open jobs, 6.3 million unemployed and a skills gap that needs to be addressed. none of this does this which is not only costly but doesn't address the underlying problems. >> wall street loves donald trump because they are just making money and it doesn't matter. >> profits are up enormously.
>> this weekend is a perfect dike tee of the two masters trump serves. he needs to attack lebron and offer this capital gains tax cut at the same time because there are two constituencies he has to appeal with, one is this racist ba base, but he has to make sure that they are on board all the time and there is more of that populist idea there so he has to pretend that he's for the working man to do that. however, what they really care about per that point is the racism. he keeps doing that. on the other hand he has your standard traditional republican base, the very wealthy and the cooperations who need to have -- >> they give him money. >> exactly. >> the lebron comment is indefensible, he is dehumanizing people of color and this is a self made soon to be billionaire given back to his community. >> soon for richer than donald trump and already more popular
than donald trump. thank you very much. robert will stay with us. onward christian soldiers, jeff sessions is ready to go to war. i've been making blades here at gillette for 20 years. there's a lot of innovation that goes into making america's #1 shave. precision machinery and high-quality materials from around the world. nobody else even comes close. now starting at $7.99. gillette. the best a man can get.
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he calls a dangerous movement threatening the country. no, not ongoing russian threats to our elections, instead sessions announced the religious liberty task force to combat what he considers threats to religious freedom. but civil and human rights groups slammed the task force fearing it will give people and businesses the green light to discriminate in the name of one particular religious. noi robert p. jones is back with me. bishop barber i want to play more about jeff sessions had a had to say. >> we've gotten to the point where courts have held that morality cannot be a basis for law, where ministers are fearful to affirm as they understand it holy writ from the pulpit and where one group can actively
target religious groups by labeling them hate groups. so we're going to remain in contact with religious groups across america to ensure that their rights are being protected. >> and one of those groups is the alliance defending freedom, an organization that backed the summit where sessions made this announceme announcement, a conservative christian nonprofit that played a role in 54 supreme court victories. how do you read this idea of having a religious freedom task force, bishop barber? >> joy, the hypocrisy and the irony of jeff sessions who recently used a segregationist tactic when he misinterpreted scripture to support his enforcement of unjust racist and evil policies to snatch, kidnap and take brown, mexico and latino families from their families. for him to claim that he and donald trump are the save years of religious freedom, it would be laughable if it wasn't so horrible, you knew.
so i remember r irreligious and so untrue. as one who was arrested for engaging in moral protest it seems that sessions is not interested in protecting the love and truth and justice that critiques the nation on how we teeth the poor but he wants to protect and give cover for what i call the trump-vangelicas or to support republican extremism that is rooted in hate and division and undermine civil and human rights. >> jonathan, i highly recommend there is a piece that you have up at nbc's think about this task force, you say when groups like the adf talk about religious liberty they are really talking about liberty for one specific religion, christianity. it has become a rallying cry for conservatives whose interests are reversing roe v. wade.
are you accusing this task force of being designed to allow thes things to happen. >> yes, i think that's the history of the adf if you look at it. more broadly i think this way that religious freedom is being framed is rooted in the history of slave holder religion and the way in the 20th century that it tried to justify discrimination by using this american value of religious freedom. this is what bob jones university did when they tried to keep black students out by saying they were a religious institution that had the right to exclude them. >> i think we have some problems with jonathan's audio. i want to go to robbie screens. you have some research out from prri and the question that you asked in one of these prri surveys, should business owners be allowed to refuse wedding-related services to same-sex couples if it violates their religious beliefs. 46% said that business owners should be allowed to refuse service and 48% said they should be required to provide them. is that a number that's changed
over time and who was polled there? >> so this is a survey of all americans and that number has changed a bit. the last time we asked that we had a majority saying that small businesses should not be allowed, that was prior to the case at the u.s. spect. so we've seen a shift in five points more toward allowing businesses particularly wedding-related businesses to -- allow them to refuse service, however, one of the more important numbers is if you look at african-americans on this issue, we find among african-americans who by the way are fairly divided on the issue of same-sex marriage but nonetheless when we asked them about this 63% of african-americans say that small businesses should not be allowed to refuse service to gay and lesbian americans even if it's based on their religious objections. i think there we see just the very basic experience that this has echos of lunch counter, you know, refusals and businesses turning away african-americans. that's in our not so distant
past that's going on. one other point is that there is a slight of hand going on here. if you listen carefully to sessions' rationale he talks about protecting people of faith but i want to sharpen that up because when sessions says protecting people of faith what he really means is conservative white christians and particularly white evangelical christians but that group is an outlier in the country on these issues. they are the only group that opposes -- only religious group that opposes same-sex marriage in the country. white evangelical protestants are the only religious group now that opposes same-sex marriage in the country and they are the only group that wants to allow small businesses to refuse service to lbgt people. >> bishop barber, it felt for a while like this whole question of lgbt rights settled in the country even among religious people. does this surprise you that this
battle front is being reopened? >> it doesn't because if you understand the same rationale as robbie said that is used to say a business ought to be able to deny an lbgt person is the same rationale as the segregation issues and the slave holders used. they said religious said segregation and slavery is all right. it seems like sessions has been hollering to protect religious but if you look at the policies they are those that create policies and support policies that suggest that god is an agent of systemic racism, a homophobe, a god that wants to take healthcare, steal voting rights, a gun touting god. that seems to be the freedoms he wants to protect. he doesn't want to protect the freedom really of that religious tradition that critiques our government. i just said the other day if sessions wants to do something rooted in rel skrus values he should ask -- the task force
should repent and stop misusing scripture to justify snatching, kidnapping and abusing brown children. get the babies back with their families and pay those human beings compensatory and punitive damages. stop attacking voting rights, healthcare and workers. >> i'm not sure the mic will be better, but there some argument that can be made to religious serve thifs that would be more powerful than what jeff sessions is offering? >> oh, yes, that's why i'm here. thank you for inviting me to preach the good news because there is good news even for white wrist krans, it's the same thing that every mess injury that comes to the people of god says in the bible. don't be afraid. fear not is what the angels say because fear is being used to play religious values for political gain. the important thing for white christians is to realize that we can be free from this slave holder religion, we can trust the true and living gospel, we can learn from those people who have prayed the psalms through
great struggles and know that weeping may endure for a night but joy comes in the morning, that's the original "a.m. joy." >> thank you very much, jonathan wilson heart grove, thank you robert p. jones and, by the way, thank you william barber. i want to give a special shout out and huge congratulations to you, bishop barber, in celebrating 25 years of preaching at green leaf christian church. don't think we forgot. we were going to call you out on tv. congratulations on your 25 years and all of the great work that you've done. thank you for being here and congratulations, sir. >> thank you so many. god bless you. >> we have more for you. take a look. watch at the screen. here are some more congrats lat tore messages. >> big shout out to dr. william barber on your 25th anniversary. i'm sure there is a major celebration going on there in north carolina. of course, you have been on the front lines holding america accountable. >> happy 25th anniversary. thank you for picking up the
baton from dr. king by reintroducing this generation to exactly what nonviolent creative civil disobedience is all about. >> bishop barber, we've got ya. >> you did, i'm about to cry. thank you so much. >> congratulations. >> take care. >> thank you for all that you do. we love having you here and thank you for standing up for what's right in the nations most vulnerable. more "a.m. joy" coming up after the break. i tried the patch. they didn't work for me. i didn't think anything was going to work for me until i tried chantix. chantix, along with support, helps you quit smoking. chantix reduced my urge to smoke. i needed that to quit. when you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. some people had changes in behavior or thinking, aggression, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, or suicidal thoughts or actions with chantix. serious side effects may include seizures, new or worse heart or blood vessel problems,
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and nra already on the road, let's bring in david hogg, student and graduate of marjory stoneman douglas. and brea smith. march for our lives. david, you commented on a story out in "rolling stone" today. the "rolling stone" reported that nra is in deep financial trouble may be unable to sift because of actions of new york state that inability to get insurance and access banks services. you tweeted the nra is to fool us into believing this. the nra is still one of the greatest threats to american lives today. simply need donations now that maria butina has been reviled. what do you believy. >> i think they're actually in trouble or lying under the oath which puts them in in perjury.
it's a question of whether or not they want more donations or want to break the law. considering that they're in trouble with the department of justice, for example, been thought that they took $30 million in funds and funneled it from russia to the nra. >> and martin luther king jr.'s son, martin luther king iii said there's been no movement like the parkland surviveors movemen. and 50 new gun laws since parkland happened. and that's from pew research so, obviously, what you guys are doing is effective? >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, most definitely. i think march for your lives is.
i come from milwaukee, wisconsin, i experience it day by day. people of color in these cities and communities do not get the coverage and we speak about injustices and that's march for our lives. that's not inconclusive. but it's conclusive and ability to speak up about their truths. >> you know, when i look at north carolina look at where they had the first sit-in, it's not just happening to americans. it's white people, asians, native-americans, all americans as human beings standing up. >> and to divide and conquer, we can't like push an agenda that is just like focusing on a group of people where everyone is affected by these issues because it's a human rights issue. >> absolutely. one thing you have focused on is border registration. it's important to get your generation interested in voting and the power of their vote. talk what about you're hearing out there in the world as you
guys are touring in the country and trying to inspire your generation to vote. >> i think what we're starting to see a lot more is our generation mobilizing when our parents couldn't and now our parents are behind us. north carolina has a chapter in every congressional district in arizona. we're working across america right now. we hope to have possibly a chapter in every state to influence your congressman. >> they're hungry and fighting for change. they just needed that face and the movement to be a part of to join the chapters. they're also inspired and encouraged to join the movement. we were able to give a spark and give them a speak about these things. it's connected across the country and across the globe. >> absolutely. we've just seen the increase in voter registration. you guys are doing incredible work. i have to ask you both, i'm
going to talk about this with you first, barea, it's been discovered that 3d guns in theory could come into the marketplace. the nra has come out with a statement saying politicians and members of the media have wrongly claimed that 3d printing technology will alou for the production and widespread proliferation of undetectable plastic firearms. that's not clear whether the nra is for them or against them. what do you make of 3d printed guns? >> two things, 3d printed guns are merely a distraction. we don't have universal background checks that 97% of the americans support. and time they get 10 to 15% commission off certain arms sale off a very libertarian base. are they going to allow people to go out and make their own guns if they don't make money from that, and say don't do this
because it enables terrorists? >> we took your last word. >> i agree. it's gist a tactic to trip people up and get more weapons out there. and covering it with a band aid. >> one last thing, one thing that manuel oliver joaquin's dad liked to say because it's his birthday, he said joaquin is not a victim, he's an advocate. it's not democrats or republicans. more should listen to their constituents. >> you guys are providing great moral leadership out there. leading all of us. david hogg, brea smith. thank you all that you do. ame. precision machinery and high-quality materials from around the world. nobody else even comes close. now starting at $7.99. gillette. the best a man can get.
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house energy and commerce committee. and he says that collins violated the public trust. dana? >> dana: all right, bryan llenas, thank you. fox news alert in a different federal courthouse. rick gates wrapping up his testimony in the paul manafort trial. gates saying he has no doubt the government would rip up his plea agreement if he doesn't tell the truth. this coming as manafort's lawyers hammered him on his credibility on cross-examination. peter doocy is live outside u.s. district court in alexandria, virginia. peter, how big a factor is rick gates' personal life in his own testimony? >> a huge factor, dana. because rick gates admitted today that the special counsel's lawyers, the mueller team's lawyers helped him prep for his testimony here for more than 20 hours. so, the manafort team jumped in today to ask him well, did you ever tell the mueller lawyers during the prep about the extramarital affair he admitted to and gates said yes, he did. then the manafort lawyers asked if gates ever told them about four extramarital
the million-dollar wardrobe, the affairs, the trips, the crazy contracts these people have. this is what people think d.c. is like. you are known by the company you keep this was the campaign chairman rick gates as you know right in there in trump tower. not good for them. but, second, dana, this is bad for the swamp. if i'm watching this, in oshkosh, i'm thinking this is what i thought d.c. was like. people try and tell me this is only house of cards? but here it is. it's live. and so, dana, what you are seeing here is that these things do happen. especially these insane contracts to serve foreign governments. very high amounts there. but this is rare. but it does happen and we're seeing it. >> dana: one of the things gates testified about was their relationship with some ukrainian connection and how gates would wire do wire
shown in court that day. and if the photos of the suits that we have seen on your air, it's the emails from manafort. it's the contracts with these overseas clients. and so people are seeing, getting a road map to how some of the swamp operates. >> dana: i want to talk about the midterm elections last night. just the primary elections. that special election in ohio 12. we have about 90 seconds left. tell me the four things that you took away from that because i read it this morning. i thought it was fantastic. >> we will start with the fact that now we see that every election is a trump election. date of birthna, the funny thin --dana, both sides thinks s works for them. we saw the president go out and have a big rally in ohio. people came out and came closer than it might have been otherwise. second, we see that republicans and this is why the big -- the big blue wave is strengthening. we see that republicans underperforming how they did in clinton vs. trump every single time. and third thing that we're
seeing also in special election after special election we're seeing that democrats are turning out. democrats are more excited than republicans. and, dana, a great fact, today it became official today the most women nominees ever in our history axios posted the statistics today. now 172 female nominees for house. there are 11 nominees for governor. as you have seen in michigan, have you an all female democratic ticket for the michigan governor and the people under them. >> dana: what's interesting about that, too, it's not the far progressives that are winning. this is not the bernie sanders wing that is winning these elections they were much more your traditional democrat. i will give you the last word. >> no, that's right. so what we are see something going to be a contest that just as with 2020 the left is trying to get the excitement, is trying to get the attention.
that's where the money is so many democrats are say going we can just pull it a little bit this way, like the wave is going our way, the house upset is within reach. we just need to keep the focus on the economy. people's pocketbooks. not on ice. republican also tell you the president needs to talk about the economy, and immigration less about manafort. >> ainsley: we will see what >> dana: mike allen, always fun to have you here. as we just mentioned several democrats win in key elections. the republican campaign committees about that and who thinks they have the fundraising advantage next on the daily briefing. your insurance rates skyrocket after a scratch so small
>> dana: democrat james thompson one of the winners last night claiming victory in his kansas primary after a boost from bernie sanders and alexandria ocasio-cortez. thompson, however, fairing better than many candidates backed by the progressive duo with several others losing their races last night. i'm joined by meredith kelly communications director for the democratic director. great to have you on again. meredith, let me start with you. we will get to ohio 1 in a moment. overall, your feelings about last night. >> thanks for having me, dana. overall last night was a very exciting night for democrats and our prospects for winning back the house in november. i couldn't be more confident that we will do so. candidates that fit their districts from washington to kansas to michigan were the nominees last night and that's because they are talking to voters about lowering the price of
healthcare increasing wages and impacting medicare and social security. those are messages that cut across all party lines and that will carry them to victory in november. >> dana: matt, of course ohio 12 is one everybody was keeping an eye on. president trump went there saturday of last weekend. do you think that made the difference in getting this race as close as it is. right now it's still too close to call but how do you feel about that race and how it will turn out? >> well we believe troy balderson has won and congratulate him on his victory last night. he ran a very strong campaign. and you mentioned president trump. i think it was a team effort. absolutely. president trump, vice president pence, governor kasich, the nrcc and others all pitched in to help. clearly voters were energized. and, you know, we are in the business of winning seats, period. we have won 869 special elections this cycle more than we have i will congratulate meredith on dccc on. they don't get a lot of votes on congress.
i am yet to see any big results. >> dana: meredith, respond to that i'm curious how you answer. obviously democrats have done better. the turnout in the "the washington post" surge by the end of june 13.6 million votes have been cast in democratic primaries compared with 10.4 million in republican primaries. so, since 2014, the last midterm the republican turnout 24%. democratic turnout had surged by 84%. that trend appeared to continue on tuesday in kansas and fitch began. to matt's point if republicans can point to winning 8 of 9 of these elections, how do you respond to the democrats' chances then you? think you are confident of taking back the house in november. do results show that as a sure thing. >> sure. i have three main reasons that matt and republicans should be very fearful of losing control of the house in november. first of all, there are at least 80 districts that are more competitive for democrats than ohio 12. that is a reliable republican district.
that they have had for decades. trump won it by 11 points. so for us to still be counting votes is a very ominous sign for the rest of the more competitive battlefield. second, matt nailed it himself. it was a big republican team effort. one where they had to pull out all the stops for surrogates and money and that is just not a sustainable strategy in all of the districts that they are on defense n november. and, third, republicans clearly have no message. they scattered around finding different boogie men in every different television ad and that's just not something you do when you have a personal message that is connecting with voters. and meanwhile democrats have a reputable strategy and candidate resources to execute in november. >> dana: of course, we will be paying attention to that i do want to read to you a statement from cory bless at the congressional leadership fund and he says while we won tonight this remains a very tough political environment and moving forward any republican running for congress getting vastly outraised by an opponent needs to start
raising more money. your boss, congressman steve stivers who is the chairman of the nrcc this year he has been saying this for well since this show began last october. are republicans not heeding his warning? >> well, absolutely. this is something congressman stivers has been on for a while. and he says money is like using hand grenades you don't need to have the most but close. need to have enough to get your message out and define your opponent. look at ohio 12, for instance, we were able to define danny o'connor as someone who would flip flop on support for nancy pelosi and couldn't be trusted on lowering in taxes. and repeal the tax cuts helping middle class families. >> dana: what about the money part of things and the fundraising. are the republicans at a deficit here? >> look at georgia 6 special election, karen handel was outraised 4 to 1 in last year's special election but she had enough to get her message out and define john
>> dana: can never get enough of you too. thank you. live now to federal court in new york city where we are just minutes away from congressman chris collins' arraignment on insider trading charges. a new warning about the largest wildfire in california history and how long it can take to contain it. ♪ alright, i brought in new max protein
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an area nearly the size of los angeles ravaging more than 80 homes. national guard troops pitching in to fight the western wildfires with 1,000 troops now in california 450 helping in oregon and 170 fighting two fires in washington state. all this while c-130 karl planes are dropping 50,000 gallons of water a day. secretary of state mike pompeo with a message about iran tweeting that the regime is at odds with peace. urging our allies to deny iran's leaders the funds to oppress its people implement terrorism around the world. gillian turner is live in washington. there is a well-established iran al qaeda connection dating back to at least the 1990s. what do we know about it. >> so, dana, yesterday was the 20th anniversary of the bloodiest deadliest attack prior to 9/11. tandem truck bombings that killed 224 people. terrorism analyst analysts haveg detected iran's fingerprints
in those attacks. the 9/11 commission report described the origins of that iran-al qaeda connection this way. in late 1990 or 1992 discussions in sudan between al qaeda and iranian operatives led to an informal agreement. not long afterwards, senior al qaeda operatives and trainers travel to iran to receive training primarifully explosives. now, yesterday, the state department had this to say about iran's government. >> if we had reached any type of agreement i think changing the behavior of the iranian regime we are not ashamed to say that change the behavior where they take care of their own people and stop their human rights abuses and spend money on their own people and not terrorism around the globe. >> making it clear that now 20 years later iran's spawn sporinsponsor something a concerned, concern, data. >> dana: what's the latest on american pastor matthew brunson. >> the standoff over the
evangelical pastor's release is ongoing. each passing day between turkish's capital is growing more palpable. the trump administration is keeping the heat on this issue though. earlier today state department foreign officials met and they discussed brunson's ongoing detention right here in washington. yesterday, secretary of state pompeo raised the matter directly with his counterpart in turkey, the foreign minister. and last week the u.s. treasury sanctioned two turkish cabinet ministers as a result of what they say was their failure to release brunson to the united states. but so far the pressure campaign just isn't producing the results the administration wants. >> if we had reached any type of agreement i think you would see pastor brunson back here at home along with the other american citizens. >> dana, we will keep you updated on that as soon as anything is breaking. >> dana: all right. we will keep an eye on it. >> you are welcome. >> dana: live in topeka with
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inside information about a pharmaceutical company where collins served on the board. also indict were the congressman's son and the father of his son's fiancee. >> charges today demonstrate once again that no matter what the crime and no matter who committed it, we stand committed in the pursuit of justice without fear or favor. >> dana: joininjoining me now is judge andrew napolitano senior judicial analyst. you say this is not the run of the mill insider trading case, why? >> because of the extensive family manipulate that happene -- membership membershig his trust as a board member
by revealing the existence of test results for a drug this company was trying to manufacture that failed. calls up his son and they basically agree. but sell all the family stock before it goes down. this is going to become public in two or three days. she selectively choose family members. they all dump the stock. the bad news comes out. the stock tanks. what they did was transferred their potential losses to other shareholders, which is a criminal offense. >> dana: amazing people think they can still get away with this stuff. >> well, i'm glad you said that. because not only, again, he is presumed innocent until proven guilty and he has denied all of this. making that very clear the congressman denies. this the government also indicted him for lying to the fbi so he apparently not only in the government's view thought he could get away with it. he thought he could talk around the fbi. but you know, when the fbi knocks on your door, they know so much more about the case than you think they know. they know immediately or almost immediately if you are telling the truth.
>> dana: let me ask you about another situation that developed today. president trump's lawyers getting back to manafort or i'm sorry -- getting back to robert mueller about the request to interview the president, jay sekulow writing this: we have responded in writing to the latest proposal from the office of special counsel regarding its request to review -- interview the president. it is not appropriate at this time to comment publicly about the content of that response. what do you think is going on there? >> i think that the lawyers for the president led by former mayor giuliani are negotiating with a team of lawyers from bob mueller's office. because, every time you negotiate, whether it's in person or whether it's letters going back and forth, you learn a little bit more about the case. the government does not have to tip its hand. it does not have to demonstrate why it wants the president to be there. but the more they negotiate, the more they learn thinking of their adversaries and the evidence on which that think something based. >> dana: okay.
>> do i think there will ever be a sitdown with the president? i don't. as strong willed as the president is, i think rudy giuliani is going to explain to him this is a treacherous situation for you. >> dana: maybe he will throw himself in front of the door and say no, you are not doing this. >> might come to that. >> dana: i want to ask you about the gates testimony in the manafort trial. did you think he was a convincing witness? >> i did. i wasn't in the courtroom. thanks to peter doocy and our producers i had a chance to evaluate it almost in realtime. dana, the defense counsel went after him very aggressively, but i don't think they laid a glove on him. they did it the right way, the government. they acknowledged all of his lies and all of his deceptions. they missed one and almost all the things that he did wrong, which is really an encyclopeed dick example of the swamp that president trump said he would drain. he had these two guys running his campaign. they were worse than anybody. >> dana: robert mullen is trying to drain the swamp.
>> correct. correct. be that as it may. the government got all of that out of gates' mouth on direct examination. by the time kevin d do dow ling there wasn't any sting left department neutralize gates? no. was gates credible? yes. were the allegations as lured as they are backed up by paperwork explained by fbi experts and accountants? absolutely. >> dana: what did you make of the judge admitting that he is so inpatient? >> i'm not happy with this judge. he is making too much of the case about him and showing extraordinary bias against the government. if you feel that negatively about the government, you shouldn't be on the case or you have to keep those feelings to yourself not manifest them. you and i were talking during the break, the jury can't be happy with this judge because of the inside, snarky comments. >> dana: maybe entertained? >> sometimes judges think they are entertaining. i will tell you this from having been there they always laugh no. matter how corny a joke is when the judge tells it,
everybody laughs. >> dana: you know what? your jokes are actually funny. [laughter] >> dana: judge andrew napolitano, thank you. >> my pleasure. >> dana: too close to call with kris kobach nearly leading incumbent governor jeff collier. dan springer joins you now. he is live in boutiqu poo topek, kansas. >> just about as close as it gets. how are you doing? we will not have a winner declared officially from a week from now or perhaps even longer. with all the counties reporting their numbers, kris kobach, the secretary of state leads by just 191 votes. that's one tenth of 1%. kobach is a lightning rod for controversy in the same mold as president trump. he sees this primary as part of the larger battle for the future, direction of the republican party. and the day before the polls opened, president trump defied some of his advisors and endorsed kobach. a short time ago kobach held a news conference. he didn't declare final victory. he can't. he will campaign right away as if it's a done deal.
>> certainly possible that the result of the race could change. but, that said, it is imperative that the republican party not stand still for a week. we must begin running the race that is before us. >> incumbent governor jeff collier is not even close to conceding the race. he led by a couple points in the last poll taken before that trump endorsement. the counties have not yet begun their canvassing and there are thousands of provisional ballots that have not been added to the count. a n. a statement today colyer said this race is too close to call. make sure every vote is counted accurately throughout the canvassing process. nonetheless the trump spokesman clearly the president's support was pivotal in g.o.p. primaries. yesterday where we nominated exceptional candidates in states including michigan and missouri and kansas where he endorsed the likely
victor in the primary for governor. whoever ends up winning. solid long time democratic senator lori kelly. pundits say kelly has the best shot against the polarizing kobach. the will begin counting process monday and have final counts on wednesday we're told and then the loser can ask for a recount. dana. >> dana: all right, dan. thank you. an emotional ceremony honoring a fallen american hero from the korean war. how one family is receiving a cherished item decades after the guns went silent. plus, texas senator ted cruz reaching out to president trump as his re-election battle heats up. i will tell you what he wants in the panel joins me straight ahead.
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confident he will be totally exonerated. we're live at the courthouse. if anybody comes to the microphone we will bring that you live. there is lots of news today. we'll see you top of the hour on shepard smith reporting. ♪ >> there are more charges in the u.s. than people looking for jobs. new statistics from the labor department show 6.6 million positions open at the end of july. that's about 100,000 more than the number of unemployed people looking for work. this is the third straight month where openings outnumbered job seekers. the kansas republican governor's primary still too close to call. ohio special election for congress also going down to the wire. as missouri voters say no to a right-to-work law on that. afl-cio president steven trumka saying we know who is behind this and we will remind voters of that all the way through november. i'm joined by matt schlapp chairman of the american conservative union and adrienne elrod strategic director of communications for hillary clinton. matt, let me start with you
and when i read that about missouri and basically pushing back by a two to one margin, the state legislature's right to work law, did that give you any sense of what might be happening in a state like that where president trump won by, i think, double digits? >> yeah. i look at a result like that and i say uh-oh something is wrong in trump country. as you dig further in the state of missouri and talk to folks, what you realize what happened with this right-to-work initiative going down by two to one margin it radio was really the baby of the governor, governor greitens. we all know what happened to him. he was in a much deserved scandal and is out of office there was nobody really minding the store in terms of the proponents of this initiative. it didn't have the money that was needed. as a matter of fact, the money that was raised in order to push for its eventual success was actually spent on greiten's scandal having to hire lawyers and pr people. so don't look at this -- don't look for larger consequences in missouri. missouri is still big trump
country. and i think these republicans are going to be just fine and josh hawley has a chance to be senator. >> dana: what do you think about last night where in washington state drafts dr. quite well the voting tuesday ought to set off a tsunami siren for two of the remaining congressional republicans run for reflection. both spokane representative cathy mcmorris rogers and representative jamie herrera butler from southwest washington finished with less than 50% of the primary vote. your thought about washington state? >> yeah, i mean, first of all, washington state is always ban purple state. so we have got to take that into consideration but the fact that cathy mcmorris rodgers in particular who was in republican leadership barely got through, you know a very low number for a republican incumbent is very significant. it's going to be interesting, frankly, to look at the exit polls and determine whether or not this was actually an antiestablishment vote or if
this true solid a situation where that district, in particular, is shifting. and, of course, it's also important to remember, dana that washington douse have a jumbled primary top two go getter goes onto the general. >> and dana, a third is mai mail: they haven't been counted yet. you will see those numbers go up. >> dana: especially when they come from overseas with the troops. let me ask you about this, matt. ted cruz, we talk a little bit about this race. beto o'rourke challenging the ted cruz in texas. said texas is fool's gold for democrats. here is a quote from senator ted cruz telling the houston chronicle i would certainly welcome president trump's support and i hope to see anymore texas. i think we are likely to seat president down in texas before the election. no doubt that would be one -- a rally for one for the record books, matt, if the president does go down there. does senator cruz need him to go? >> you know, of the way i
look at it is this, dana. every republican, especially running in these big trump states, they want the president to come. and, the other thing about texas you know, texas is one of the most important money raising states for republican and conservative coffers. so i think the president going to texas makes sense for a lot of reasons. i would throf see the photo of ted cruz and donald trump arm in arm. it's what the party needs. i'm going to like it. >> dana: all right. adrienne. what about you? do you think texas is fool's gold for texas or are you getting closer? >> one of the reasons why beto o'rourke is closing the gap in this race he is going to every single county -- rather he has gone to every single county in texas. many are rural counties who have not heard from a democrat in ages. he is having real conversations with the voters. also important to keep in mind that he has outraised ted cruz. and this is also ground zero for child separation. so having trump go in to a stated that is heavily latino when this is an issue that is very important to
them what's been hang at the border and trump is largely responsible for that and they know it, it's very toxic. and, again, you have got to keep in mind a recent pew poll shows that ted cruz is under water. he is under 50%, which is never good for an incumbent, regardless of party affiliation. >> dana: might have a little bit of work cut out for him. we will keep in touch with it and with you both. matt and adrienne, thank you. >> thanks, dana. >> thank you. >> dana: the pentagon presenting a dog tag to the sons of the unaccounted for from the korean war. let's listen in. >> called me when we originally found this out. and the medal here. your father's medal and would like to present that to you. >> we can't see it?
>> we will drop it down. >> they are not attached. can you raise it up just a bit? thank you. >> can we see the dog tag? >> does this help? okay. >> what does it mean for you to be reunited with his dog tag? [away from microphone] >> use the mike. >> have a seat, please. >> we were very small children. >> could you identify yourself? >> i am chaplain colonel
charles mcdaniel, retired. and i'm -- this is my father, i'm his oldest son. i'm a junior. and this is my brother larry. this is, as i said, very mixed jumbled moment for us. we didn't expect. this we have had a few days. suddenly we were contacted by the department of the army and said we found one dog tag and it's your father's. when i had heard that there were we mains comin remains comr family started discussing that 55 boxes out of 7700 roughly we were certainly not anticipating. we are really, in one small sense, the most fortunate because we're the only ones that have a name now of some connection. none of the remains, we don't know that they are my father's. but, at least we have this. and we're thankful for that.
and we thank all those that have worked so diligently to try to protect us and at the same time help us to get our arms around it a little bit. i have to say i didn't think about the emotions that were very deep even though i was a small boy and have very little memory of my father. but i sat there and i cried for a while. and it took a while to compose myself. and i'm a retired army chaplain i have made notifications and all of those are very difficult. they have always been special to me in a sense because i lost my father and someone had to do that for me and my mother at some point. so, i don't know if i answered your question. kind of rambling a little bit. >> how old were you? >> when my father actually left, we were with first cav division in japan with occupation forces. and i don't know when they deployed about, probably august of 1950. so i was just a little over
3. and when i saw my father last. larry was 2. excuse me, larry. i'm not letting you say anything. >> you are doing good. [laughter] >> he served in world war ii? >> he did. he served extensively. he actually went in before the war, deployed as a follow-on division medic with the 83rd infantry division and served in europe for oh, i think, probably over a year in combat. served and received a bronze star with bead of ice and some other awards. he was in for quite a while. got out for a little while and came back in with the first cav division. larry was born 1948 at fort knox. so we were back in the army at that time. [away from microphone] >> yes, we were with the occupation forces when the war broke out and first cav was one of the divisions that was rushed over. >> was he a medic?
>> he was medic, yeah, yeah. [away from microphone] >> indianapolis. he is from. >> jacksonville, florida and he is in indianapolis. >> can you say and spell your father's full name? >> it's charles hobert mcdaniel. charles hobert mcdaniel. and i'm a junior. yep. >> what was your father's rank? >> he was a master sergeant. >> when did you -- you were saying you broke down. when was that? when you got the phone call? >> was it thursday you called or wednesday? >> thursday i think it was. it was -- i remember where i
was the rest of my life. sitting in my chair and my wife said you have got a phone call i said oh, okay. >> indianapolis? >> yes, yeah. >> what time of day? >> it was about mid afternoon. i don't remember exactly. >> where is the story [inaudible] >> i don't know how much we can get into that. again, i was very little. i know my dad watched ice cream. he always watched his weight. some things like that. he was an army guy. i'm an army guy, so i understand that. >> what was the family told about him missing? was the family told that he was killed or what was the family told? >> well, probably -- i don't know what you did here with your panel, but did they kind of explain the process when someone went missing in action? okay. you might be a better answer for that really. to be honest with you. tell them what happens.
i was there but i was three and a half. maybe you are real -- i wasn't quite as sharp maybe at 3 and a half. [away from microphone] >> well, me personally, i just vaguely remember, you know, kind of being little pieces of things. you know, leaving, getting in on a ship, a big ship. getting sick at sea. i think i fell and busted my lips. those are the memories i have as a 3 and a half-year-old, you see. >> coming back to the u.s.? >> there was a troops ship because there was so many casualties they put the widows and families on a troop ship and brought them back to hawaii. that's what i remember. the army has been pretty good about with me staying in contact once i found out
that they were over the last few years. they send me notices and updates and, of course, they provide these wonderful events for families to give them a little bit of updates what's going on. i know more as an adult. as a child i remember the emotional things a little bit and going back to my mother had a large family in southern indiana. so we went back. we had aunts and uncle and they kind of took over. that's the kind of thing that i remember. larry probably remembers that, too. >> i have no memory of my father. you know, to me this is a big picture thing. it's all about -- i mean i'm proud that my father was extremely patriotic and loved the country enough that he was able to dedicate his entire life for the country without hesitation. but the thing is, he was one
of thousands of guys that that generation that did it i don't think the fact that we found his dog tags should overshadow any of that my memories are all kind of big picture. i have absolutely no memory of my father. you know, i have a picture in my current house in jacksonville of him. and other than that, seeing what he looked like and hearing you a few things people talk about him i don't really know anything about him. i guess you generate your image of what you think about your father for me i'm proud of what he did and what he accomplished and he was part of a generation of people that did that. >> did your mother ever remarry. >> she did. yes. she married a doctor on the south side of indianapolis. and he was a great man, too, to be honest with you.
he is the one that i know and remember. he was a really fine outstanding -- people say that but he was. he was an outstanding person. he was a very giving person. >> do you have a picture of your father on you that we could see. >> yeah. it's just on my camera i wouldn't be able that see. i would be glad to show any of you later. >> say it again? >> do you have plans for the dog tag? >> we haven't decided exactly. one of us will keep it, you know. we have talked about it. >> i don't know if we are going to arm wrestle or six months of custody. i'm not trying to be too light. really, we're just overwhelmed. i am, that of all of these boxes that came back and all of these thousands of people we are the only one that have certitude on -- is it
possible? obviously my father is alive some place and he lost his dog tag, i mean, that's just improbable. so, we have got some certitude now though of reasonable location and all of that. >> what are the plans for a final resting place for your father? >> well, we actually just talked a little bit about that. i don't know. maybe arlington. maybe up around indianapolis. maybe, you know. we will just have to work that out. those are -- first, you have to make sure that some of the remains are his. it may not be. maybe we're just getting a dog tag, which is wonderful. i mean, it really is wonderful in one sense. >> did your grandfather serve in the first world war? >> he did not. he was a farmer. and was exempted as a farm family. from that generation my mom's family and my father's farm people. is he from butler, missouri area. my father i have a great uncle namesake also that was
killed in world war i. >> did you ever serve -- >> did i not. i was green beret at the time. i went in. for whatever reason they decided central africa sounded better. if you are familiar with special forces that you each have areas of responsibility and at that time they assigned me to a group that had that responsibility. so, i did my time and went out and finished college and then became a chaplain. >> [away from microphone] >> yeah. [[inaudible] [. >> yeah. he is the academic guy and, you know, i always tell me. >> dana: we have been watching a very moving ceremony and two brothers, charles and larry mcdaniels getting back their father's dog tag. this is what came back, one of the things that the army
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and now red bull alone owns clubs around the globe. what's true in a parental as running a soccer empire spending five came from three continents really worth it and just for marketing twenty years ago goalkeepers rarely strayed from their penalty areas now keepers like baez man are noir liverpool's alley song and man city edison represents a new generation of ball playing goalies called it was the most important player on the peats you don't agree take up reporters have yet and dave show us how football has changed and what this all means for the sport now on kickoff life. i'm a fan of new york soccer though many don't think of new york as a soccer city it's actually right at the heart of the fight for the sports very soul. which oddly enough new york shares in common with the german
city of lights are two totally different city is both locked in the debate about modern football why because both cities soccer identities were bought up by red bull. stratos all the world's biggest energy drink probably know pretty well he got her for that all nighter studying have to get up at the crack of dawn her work for rick yeager bombs with her boys yes i'm from new jersey us. red bull is founded by dietrich modest should some one nine hundred eighty seven they're worth over ten billion dollars and sold over six billion cans of soda last year but they don't just make energy drinks. they are marketing masters they sponsor every extreme sport you can imagine if it's dangerous red bulls involved they also own multiple formula one teams a hockey team even a publishing house they literally launched a guy from space most important for us they're also want to quest for world soccer
domination their soccer experiment started in salzburg austria and quickly spread around the globe they currently run teams on three continents their clubs are magnets for controversy especially since leipzig burst into the bundesliga. money is at the heart of red bull's approach fans are confronted with a situation where their clubs are products that exist solely to sell other products . we're going to look at red bull soccer empire to see what happens when football and marketing become one. one of the biggest cities in the world it's home to what's probably the smallest of red bulls three top flight teams new york. new york's lovable yet luckless team the metro stars were bought by the austrian company and rebranded as the new york red bulls in two thousand and six.
crushed the porters and left a rift among fans. which i can attest i've been in new york supporter for over a decade sure i hate the commercialism but it isn't easy giving up on the club people plus new york isn't exactly flush with a locally owned club this with dynamic rich histories to support like lots of other fans i do my best to keep natural law. like cory who ran the team's biggest supporters club three years. will take over came in and really sort of took the news out from under us and i think the really unfortunate part about it was interesting to divide a lot of friends and occurred in a situation where it was tough for everyone to move forward and some people just couldn't be a part of it anymore and that was trying to you know our own supporters or something like that. the trend base is still divided about red bulls owners gregg's another fan who hasn't given up on metro there's probably with how many people have left the fan base is probably more who are for red bull and not but there's still a core of us who very much you know understand what this is think football should
be more than just you know it's team on the go. hasn't been easy for us fans the team has been red bull longer than metro many newer fans have been braced red bull the re brand sparked an identity crisis. by this red bull have anything to do with new york i mean identity is a very big part of football particle. and you know i think if if this were done. it would a big club in another country i think you're right like them or not red bulls financial might hasn't gone unnoticed they built the beautiful red bull arena in two thousand and ten and it's still one of the best soccer stadiums in the whole country. i mean just check that beauty out. that's sweet sweet soda money brought in star players like tyrian reid pablo on how tim cahill and rocco marquez red bull became one of the. league's biggest spenders and fans
got used to it. there's a sense from the front office and from some of the supporters that right listen rebels going to come in on what they're going to want to put their name on something that's good so they're going to spend a lot of money if there's a city where fashion the cash is an absolute necessity it's here and we love winners but big spending doesn't always get results in new york but bill has deep pockets but not much in a trophy case. i guess buying love is easier than buying cubs red bull seemed to lose interest in new york after throwing cash at the club without results they stopped buying stars cut spending and focused on developing youth. the fans started to wonder what the plan for the club was. it still works pretty well in the field but doesn't help them stand out from the crowd in red bull's typically extreme passion. when syriani came in and i think all of us were hopeful that this would spell this you know this news successful and then they bought leipsic. and when
that happened the spending abruptly. with leipzig scruggs red bull suddenly had a new toy to play with new york went from a star studded side to a farm team for the german branch. new york's place in the red bull soccer hierarchy it became clear when our head coach just the marsh left for germany in summer. marsh quite a head coaching job in new york for an assistant coaching job in light sic in the middle of new york season but this team at the top of the table it's a great move for him but what kind of message does that send to new york spans i mean i think it's shaping shameful. shameful or is that just modern football resources attention even coaches started flowing to leipsic. but here we are in life to say to check in on the big boys as a new york n.y. feel right at home all the bundesliga bravado you can go. to recognize.
the. coach marsh has been here since the start of the season how does he feel about leaving new york behind your rivals that was my baby you know and it wasn't just me it was the work of so many different people but i put my heart and soul into that club as much as it was time for me to find the next step i think it was also good for the club to start to. kind of exist on its own and find new leaders and cycle through a new voice. red bulls origin story in germany it's an exactly identical of out of new york the energy drink company avoid to be tricky hostile takeover situation that caused so many headaches in new york and salzburg buying a fifth division clubs license in two thousand and nine with one goal in mind climb to the. they accomplished that goal in just eight years we asked a veteran player from the third to mislead the. how have things changed since.
many fans in the stadiums first came here it was. fifteen for him. and now we're playing for. the whole club was just going to go from the fifth division to the first. they did it by signing young prospects you could grow with the club that's how they got polson on board. i came here with the purpose to play but mostly i was nineteen at the time and. you know it was. between the two to go to other clubs and division but. one tier i would play every time and. i think was the best for me sure lots of teams with big investors have grand plans to. it could have been this week in record time but it
rarely pans out then again there's a big difference between lots of cash and a red ball of money spending in leipzig worth the big money days in new york but they also had a plan. to turn coach and sporting director ralph bug mitch built a system for red bull global overseeing leipzig evolution. but the plan came at the expense of red bulls other teams caste dried up in new york has spoken shifted to leipsic and it wasn't just metro salzberg have essentially become a leipzig reserve team now b.k. to pick a la sheet and diouf of macondo are among the nearly twenty players who have gone from salzburg to leipzig over the years. but things are an interesting choice for red bulls a german experiment it's a growing city known for its art scene and underground culture and serves as a peek into for redevelopment in a region of germany that saw significant disinvestment after the fall of the berlin
wall just as a low budget squad seems out of place in the big apple one that's essentially commercialism incarnate doesn't feel like fans of the city's traditional clubs having welcomed read. in fact much of germany hates rb leipzig the team's been met by protested even by an attacks are being cautious with a century of football tradition and is seen by many supporters as a direct threat to germany spanned forward soccer culture. we check in with the leipsic been to unsurprisingly preferred to remain anonymous unseats amount of just upload download some of the mood so far. in the nets. us that they could help us if this from now from flew. off. event. i'm going. to dismiss the. sure as
a new york i got bullied all the time but looking back i'm pretty sure that's just because of who i was in high school which begs the question what. is running a soccer empire spanning three continents really worth it just for marketing. just owning a despised team in germany and a relatively irrelevant one in new york really helps sell soda. i asked red bulls marketing department here is their response. thank you for your interest in our company the philosophy of red bull is from the early beginning that we do not talk about ourselves and our marketing we don't want to put ourselves in the front row even more we would like to give our teams the stage to talk about their projects and their dreams thank you for your understanding and. that's sweet but not very helpful one of the most famous marketing companies in the world refuses to talk about marketing. my take regardless of what's in it for them red bull and soccer
just don't mix they crushed my clubs identity and managed to piss off all of football crazy germany and modern soccer is commercial enough but a company owning a team is just too far. so it doesn't make me feel much better about supporting a glorified farm for me down too weak to give up on my club part of the evil empire . maybe i just need to find a new sport entirely i wonder has a nice dancing or look across. ok dave maybe dortmund's what you were talking prospects. his goals are plenty just smile about it but what makes him so good. good enough in the street to do. a lot of skills that you would have to. see only
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from different families not. trying to bring one on the spectrum like there are no training when i was younger with my dad you know obviously other people that's what made me a contributor. made him the bait of the defenses. i don't know what they think when i pull off these tricks. but it must be impressed. it seems like he's making an impression one colleague in particular knows all about landing in the limelight as a team prodigy. gives us something special with all his quality and that for the unexpected it's good you know it's hard if it was to be so young i know. his advice is ok as a player. and what does the coach think need to feel let's not talk too much about the youngsters. i watch out. to see
a farmer is aware of the dangers in heaping too much praise on young prospect but there's no escaping the fact son show has an awful lot going for him. to his point of course we're all very happy that he's so good he's coming to school goals so you can know the man when he's excellent one on ones be considerate also very much part of the collective and that's what matters most. to the systems which teach to. jaden sanch i was even the bundesliga player of the month october. and his buddy rhys nelson is doing well for himself with six goals in eight slate matches the london lads are lighting up the make up a right to shout bit of caution but it's hard not getting excited about least to. his strikers everyone's always talking about strikers are reports
a hobby at the keeper himself he's out to convince the world that the future for moms to the gunky cup let's take a look. i am all keeper. and goalies a lot more than just. goalkeepers for the most important players on the pitch you don't agree. i would tell you why they see goalies try to be crazy for one of them for this couple of years when they get up on his famous scorching heat grandmother it's not just right but failed. ok actually yes i have been asked by the way i'm a goalkeeper and a reporter but that's only because we have too much on the plate we need to perform great saves. but we aren't allowed any mistakes.
always believe and they remain special and always need to be focused on what is that they're going to do we've got to wonder why we don't you can sometimes we provide entertainment as well of course. we've got to keep those learning new skills and clubs they need to pay more money to live. eighty million euros i leave it all seventy two point five forty some food womanizers need keepers quite skilled with their kids goalies like manuel neuer are crucial contributors to their teams play our transition to france to defend to quickly nearly win the ball again. neuer catch thing in their sun these are some of the goalkeepers believe in these three will loosen but they can be take it even farther of course remember three years and more importantly. our work often goes under recognized only one goalie has ever worn them along the award for the best player in europe process let your sheen in
at you sixty three. but i'm sure you remember that time only very can fail miserably in a world cup final and that recent campus league final liverpool slow the skull of yours gifted three in madrid that title has many. i'm not forgetting they beat calamity james of course one of several i'm using english goalies from not so long ago. any other sport. baseball or rugby only football has such a lonely figure with such a burden on his shoulders. except for secrecy. pastoral ok ice hockey i'm humble also how keepers come on their goals i might smaller being and then huge pressure on and off now goalkeepers have much more responsibility. they're not not the only one who says that the federal election
date on those niggas try to go greece. ten years ago it was just about using their hands and staying in the goal they never use their feet. started out in the early nineties some keepers couldn't even take their own. primarily because they couldn't aim with enough pretty soon to reach their own pleasure up front. but it all started to change in one thousand nine hundred two when the past rule was introduced and then these wasn't allowed anymore. suddenly. forced to play with. evolution was astonishing like. all goalies so what not roebourne outfield players but then he came alone oh yeah this with people look at this. you know yeah he's famed for his dribbling i'm talking exploits the way outside the box. you know one of the best
at that is money well that's he said here's a lot of technique actually used to play with us in the broncos during training he following the example of no yeah it's taken six years younger has marched through the role of mother goalkeeping at barcelona. after ceaseless rain no not julius cæsar julius a satisfactory after he strained no other son ali son are fighting to be brought she is number one and the most skilled for true blood between their posts in the premier league. in spain yes never made it quite possible to remember this. is not a good thing if we are really looking for now. and bring more hope in that regard. i know schools keep religion. you don't i do not like noise. sees himself as an extra defender.
who will always. go. in front. of position but the future of print is in the feet of hard forms and they all are rising star. goalkeepers with passing skills existed long before these guys but they were rather the exception than the rule. back then they mainly came from latin america the great compass who played golf with a keeper. anything. from par why don't you send me from brazil top scoring goalkeeper with one hundred thirty one goals. we are not paid to score goals of course but goalies are
increasingly expected to start plays from the back meaning a major change in their responsibilities. but. no one is perfect and i was struggling to cope with the new demands was that there. was no good. your. famous the world keeper the first looking for safe. for me is the most important thing but just has to play with the book to help us to create a good build up. the job here one of the oldest first point. was to replace joe hart with cloud your problem due to his superior footwork but he also failed to meet demands now the city says have some say he sent me to feel the. let's look more in detail because role. in the past. her. through their movement
to the box and little more. now they are company. when they are tired him or pressure in their arrival so they can sweep away long walks when needed. now the goalkeeper is the last man and some tactical systems it's important for him to be next to the back for when the line advances pressuring the opponent. but also when processing their wall off and their teammates and other passing option that improves the chances of a build up and the boy it's a useless long ball that's a keeper with a good goalkeeper allows his team to stretch the lanes and even creates opportunities look at this the man in green. and he's perfect for the ball this one goal chance for self young widow out of a goal kick me off so i can get. there is something unique
about being the man who uses his hands in a game called football something sacred. maybe that was what attracted pope john paul the second to be a goalie in his youth and i ask myself what would the keeper in the future look like for sure his role is going to grow more and more complex. i imagine one day they won't be simple keepers but outfield players who can also stop shots. might continue changing and making the game more attractive for example will we see new tactical systems. eleven field players maybe they didn't keep or there would be so many opportunities. that's a hypothetical future but the reality is that today goalkeepers and destroying skills are already changing the way we understand football.
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but when's that ghani passed on this information he's the one who got arrested if you could prove it was the toughest time in my life who i'm of the accusations that i was a traitor made my life a living hell from the balkans who will make them the threats began against my family and i had to leave albania to protect my children and their lives were endangered by the mafia. mafia which still has the full support of the government mafia. using a drone our ten hard judge shows us where marijuana is still grown. here at the edge of the forest it's hard to spot. albania is making efforts to fight the drug trade. but until the link between politicians and the mafia is broken it's a battle the country is unlikely to win. for
animal lovers pets are a source of unconditional love and companionship life just wouldn't be the same without their four legged friends but for some people the cost of caring for their pets has become too high it's a problem that a group in antwerp belgium has found an answer to. in antwerp seville reich district of flemish couple has founded a pet food bank in a garage called who's a who it hands out food for animals to people who often go hungry themselves. majorly and also go on with the album and the folks who come here had their pets before they had financial woes electricity prices just went up again and there are some who can't pay their bills. it is easy to say but when you have money troubles i mean you can't just give a pet that's been with you for years to a shelter and as that of. her clients are people like to leave master magda who
has to get by on a small pension others live on social assistance then there's kate like you know who has a big heart but little money. because even after we have seven cats and a dog all of them are neglected you know we saved them and for now gave them a home. with an office a look it's a sociable place and have saw for the way they care for the animals like shop it's very good. back to comes here every sunday morning. pet food is handed out from nine to eleven am demand is so great there's scarcely room to move one hundred twenty seven pet owners currently benefit from the nonprofit initiative which is financed entirely by donations. first we had to do a lot of looking around us we wrote to companies vets and stores the first day we gave away four kilos of food now it's three hundred kilos per month.
but mt. many here are looking for social contacts as well as pet food so the project benefits animals and humans it's. no wonder the pet food banks founders are lovingly known as and cory and uncle frank and i want. well that brings in this edition of focus on europe to an end thanks so much for joining me don't forget you can also watch our program online at www dot com theaters in. the fall.
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has said it will stop complying with parts of the landmark nuclear deal struck with world powers in twenty fifteen president has done rouhani made the announcement one year after the united states through the agreement into jeopardy by unilaterally withdrew an from it the deal was designed to limit the country's ability to produce nuclear fuel the u.s. responded by announcing new sanctions on iran. the u.s. house judiciary committee says attorney general william barr is guilty of contempt of congress bar had failed to provide congress with the full unredacted miller report on russian interference in the twenty six thousand election it comes as u.s. president all trump presidential privilege to block the release of information demanded by congress. counting has finished in thailand's general election twenty seven different parties were awarded seats in parliament with no single party winning an overall majority but the anti military opposition campus won the most seats the poor thai party associated with fugitive former prime minister taxin
shinawatra tops the field by winning one hundred thirty six constituencies. britain's prince harry and meghan the duke and duchess of sussex have named their new bond son archie harrison mountbatten windsor the couple's first child was born on monday archie is seventh in line to the british throne. one year ago u.s. president trump made good on a campaign promise and in the eyes of most of the world made a bad decision he pulled the u.s. out of the iran nuclear deal known as the j c p a way well since then iran has shown remarkable restraint but for how much longer iran nell says it may quit the deal too and that puts the hardliners in tehran and washington on the same trajectory where international deals along with international peace have little chance of surviving i'm burnt off in berlin this is
the day. john paul the nuclear deal is still in place. but today we will flip and show the other side of the coin. they've made a number of statements about actions they threaten to do in order to get the world to jump. will see what they actually do as it will wait to observe that they need to be very clear that if they don't comply there will be consequences to it we expect our colleagues first of all european ones who volunteered to find a solution to the problem created by the americans to fulfill their obligations. and it is obvious that the americans intend to have a destructive approach to the shadow they don't have that. also coming up election day in south africa twenty five years ago hopeful voters
said yes to change today disillusioned voters said nothing has changed at all and what is at stake particularly for the african national congress the a.n.c. at the message it's been wanting to send to villages is that it's still relevant to south africa and to take south africa to the future twenty five he has ensued democracy. to our viewers on people. yes in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day watching iran do what it can really only do today a year after the u.s. withdrew from the iran nuclear deal iran announced that it may do the same now this comes as no surprise it has been a year of nonstop efforts by washington to squeeze the economic life out of tehran sanctions now threaten to cripple iran's entire economy observers say iran has always respected its obligations under the nuclear deal and even with today's
announcement iranian president rouhani said that the plan remains to save the deal not destroy it and that will depend a lot on europe on whether it can come up with the money and the means to keep the deal intact minus the u.s. what today u.s. secretary of state might pump aoe was in london meeting with british foreign secretary jeremy hunt the two men standing beside each other praising shared values and interests and at the same time standing at opposite poles on the iran nuclear deal. on the iran nuclear deal it is a very important achievement of westen diplomacy that despite all the problems that we have in the middle east today iran does not have nuclear weapons and its neighbors have not responded by getting their own nuclear weapons and. the section from power and i are one in agreeing that it will be a massive step back for that region if it became nuclearized we've made
a decision different than the united kingdom has with respect to the j.c.b. away and so. iran's decision to depart from the j.c.b. for us mostly is about their decision to work on their nuclear program and i'm confident that as we watch iran's activity that the united kingdom and our european partners will move forward together to ensure that iran has no pathway for a nuclear weapons system you know as the us secretary my computer there speaking in london earlier today i want to bring in our chief political correspondent belinda crane she is on the story for us tonight here in berlin to need to you melinda i mean what we sold there today we talked to me a little bit about that we had the u.k. and the u.s. trying to show a united front on iran when really there isn't one. no absolutely you heard some very diplomatic language there but it absolutely cannot hide the fact that the u.s. is charting a direct confrontation course not only against iran but against its closest allies
in the world and i refer there not only to the u.k. but to germany and france who are also signatories to the iran agreement and who are on the exact same wavelength as the u.k. or what we're seeing is the u.s. taking a bet with some very very long odds the bet is that maximum pressure against iran will cause the regime to buckle in one of two ways either that it will concede on the points that the u.s. has been objecting to namely its missile program and also its support for groups that the u.s. labels as terrorist or that popular discontent in the face of increasing economic hardship due to the now blanket sanctions will lead the people to rise up and to topple the regime the european allies definitely do not agree that those are
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energy technology and keep this planet from warming so much that it is uninhabitable for the generations that follow. [ cheers ] and then right here in columbia, walking the grounds of the state house with the house minority leader who tells me that if we cannot pull down the statue that honors ben tillman, a white nationalist terrorist, then we should at least tell the full story of what he did to the people of his state and make sure that we elevate the stories of those on whose backs the wealth and the greatness and the success of this country was built in the first place. it is only when we tell everyone's story that this country is going to live to its full potential. it is only by bringing everyone in that we defeat donald trump and bring this country together and achieve our true success as
a country. thank you, south carolina, for having us out. [ cheers ] thank you, south carolina democrats. [ speaking spanish ] thank you, thank you. ♪ good evening and welcome to a special edition of "politicsnation" live from columbia, south carolina. we're here at the state's democratic party convention where throughout the day nearly two dozen presidential candidates have and will continue to make their case in what is a crucial stop in this early voting state. as you can imagine,
south carolina's first in the south primary is critical for democratic hopefuls and winning will depend largely on the support from its black community. later in the show i'll talk one on one with former texas congressman beto o'rourke, new jersey senator cory booker, and former vice president joe biden. but first, joining me now, house majority whip and democratic congressman from south carolina, jim clyburn. thank you, congressman. >> thank you so much, reverend, very field goal me. >> nobody could run for president without coming through you, and one of the big things of the calendar every presidential election year is your fish frying. they were all there last night but they were all there there's save one who had to go back. but he came back this morning and one called in.
so 22 of the 23 announced candidates were there. it was a great event. as you know, we started doing this as we do every year to say thank you to these people here who are on the floor. >> right. >> the delegates that work hard to help us get elected. they can't afford to pay 150 bucks to go to the fundraiser that's always here, so we started doing this fish fry to give them an opportunity to have something to do, get to know each other, waiting on the convention to start as it started today. but about ten years ago, a lady said something to me that changed my attitude about the fish fry. she told me she would never miss another one, and i asked her why. she said, because it gave me this ordinary young lady from this rural county an opportunity
to advance the electric slide for the next president of the united states. and you know what she was talking about that happened back in 2007, i believe. and then i talked to people today, and one lady told me i just cannot get over being in the same setting with over 20 people running for president of the united states and i could reach out and touch them as any ordinary person would. and thank you so much for that opportunity. >> you and -- a lot of people do not know with your exalted position in congress, but you started as a civil rights activist here in south carolina. >> absolutely. >> and went through all of what that meant. so you lived it. you didn't study this in -- i was just -- did a commencement at voorhies, all i'm talking about in the middle of the state. i'm not talking about the big city. your legendary civil rights work speaks for itself, and then you went to congress and worked your
way up. >> absolutely. you know, on monday i'm going to celebrate by 50th wedding anniversary. you know, i met em la england in jail, march 1960 when we were demonstrating against segregation and the ability to vote. so i tell people all the time jokingly, sometimes jail works. it worked for me. but i got started -- i never got out of it. john lewis and i first met in october 1960 when we were both founded what is now known as snip. i went on, got married, raised a family, and went to work in politics started in 1970. but i tried to bring that experience into politics. i won't try to make politics
something that it ain't. i'll try to say it to the people in my democratic caucus. here is what people are experiencing in rural south carolina. voorhies is in bamburg county. you don't have to tell me, your cell phone didn't work. you have to get across south carolina before it works. trying to get rural broad band in the communities. >> those are the issues that make south carolina different in the primary because you still have those areas that need to be developed. they have a majority of primary voters that are black. this is not a place you can come by and give your regular speech. you have to deal with real people issues here. >> absolutely, absolutely. and that's with these candidates have been doing. cory booker has been to voorhies college. beto o'rourke, you just heard him talk about bamberg county and denmark college. denmark tech had their choir
here for this whole convention last night and today. these young people who are really interested in politics, to have them be a part of this, give them a good experience in this business. you know, what i say to people, if you tell a person in rural south carolina that you cannot have broad band because it's profitable for us to bring it to your county, they aren't going to have much faith in this system of capitalism. we got to make cassette capitalism compassionate. we got to make capitalism work. and i am a big capitalist. my mother was an outstanding businesswoman, i believe in it, but it has to work for everybody. if you got health care that's not accessible or affordable, education, accessible and affordable. that's what makes the system work, making sure that the greatness of this country more
accessible and affordable for. >> everyone congressman, it's an honor to have you on "politicsnation" here. thank you very much. >> thank you so much for digifying our presence here today. >> we're going to take a break. thank you, congressman clyburn. much more from south carolina democratic party convention here in columbia, including interviews with beto o'rourke, senator cory booker, and former vice president joe biden. be right back. when i got my dna results, it opened up so many doors.
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welcome back to "politicsnation." we're live from the capital of south carolina. today the state is holding its democratic party convention. joining me now is democratic presidential candidate and former texas congressman beto o'rourke. first of all, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. thanks for having me. >> you have been here most of the day and you came in different. you came down the aisle, you didn't take the stage. >> right. >> you and stood among the people in the box and you talked passionately. and i think that that's the beto o'rourke that the country is beginning to see, a kind of difference but authenticity. >> we've been all over the state going to communities big and small, hold town hall meetings, and listening to people. very often in almost every
instance, you're not on a stage, elevated, or kept part. you're with the people you want to serve, listening to them. today i want to be with the people here in this convention hall and reflect back all the stories that have been shared with me along the way. struggles that people are going through, but also their aspirations and the way we're going to overcome this together. so south carolina's been very inspiring to me and i wanted to reflect some of that back at the convention. >> you told stories of different people and different things that are represented around the state and you didn't bite your tongue about calling people that had been racist or that had been backwards and exploitative, and you told the stories of cities around south carolina. >> absolutely. i was talking about being here in columbia, on the state house grounds seeing a monument to ben pill tillman who was a white
nationalist terrorist with the blood of many african-americans on his hands. yet he's a venerated position. why don't we talk about people like robert smalls who command diedre a confederate ship, ran his americans to safety and came back and served as a congressman not just during reconstruction but after reconstruction, almost uniquely amongst african-american legislators. so i want to make sure everyone's story is included in our national story and we tell the full story of america. it's the only way you right the injustices people have experienced, and it's the only way you get on the right course on the big challenges we face, health care, more inclusive economy, or confronting climate change before it's too late. >> when you talk about tillman and others that have the ugly racist background and the original sin of slavery here in this country, how do you respond to vice president biden's statement that many of called on
him to apologize for? >> i don't know that i fully understand his statement, to somehow explain the impasse we've seen or the gross discrimination that many americans have experienced that's resulted in the largest prison population on the face of the planet, one that is disproportionately compromised of people of color. that's not a function of lack of civility or bipartisanship. that's racism that's still systemat systemic today in 2019. obviously the vice president doesn't understand that or has to explain better what he meant by that remark. for my part i want to make sure those who've been locked out or locked up in this democracy have a voice, have a vote, can participate not just in our elections, but in our economy. it's only then that this country's going to hit its full stride, going to be firing on
all cylinders and really reach its potential and its promise. >> the president received a call last night from speaker nancy pelosi asking him to delay, if not stop, this whole sending out i.c.e. to go after illegal immigrants. this hits home to you. you talked about it here today about el paso, six kids dying in custody or under the supervision -- well, custody of immigration authorities. how do you react to the two-week delay? is it a good sign? is it nothing? how do you feel? >> i think this is another example of the president's successful attempts to distract us from what's really happening under his watch you mentioned the six children whose lives have been lost in our care, in custody, but there are kids right now who are sleeping on concrete floors in a border patrol station in clint, texas, just outside of el paso, covered
in their basically tinfoil blankets in their own soiled clothes that haven't been changed, kids taking care of kids, more kids are going to you ever and ultimately die as a result unless we stand up to this administration and force him to change this policy. this will forever stain our conscience. this is our moment of truth. we have to be focused on what he's actually doing to our fellow human beings. so i want to elevated their stories and make sure they're on our conscious so we can still do something about it while we can. >> the debates are less than a week ago. you are on the first night. how do you distinguish yourself without being divisive in because you've been very straightforward. you have not in my judgment tried to in any way dilute your wordings and your passion. how do you do that on the stage
that distinguishes you without appearing divisive? >> i think this election and our campaign is about the future. we can't return to sometime before trump because things weren't working for everybody in this country back then. in fact, in some cases, they were going in the wrong direction despite the heroic effort of president obama who's been the best president of my lifetime. but some of the structural inequality and racism, for example, or the fact that african-american women today are paid 61 cents on the dollar that a white man makes in this country today. you can't fix that by going backwards. you can't pit people against each other in order to accomplish this. this highly divided country kept further by this president must be brought together by the next president. that's what i want to do. and that's why this campaign is about bringing people in and together and making sure our democracy works for everyone. i want to talk about that on the debate stage this coming week
and invite people in to join this campaign and this movement. it's only a movement that will be able to defeat trump in '20. >> you have said to me -- we talked in atlanta a little -- that you had gone to a certain point, seemed to have leveled off, now seems like there's a resurgence. >> it feels that way. any groove that we have is based on these amazing supporters and volunteers, folks who are out there right now knocking on doors or hosting phone banks or pop-up offices in their home. this campaign that hasn't taken a dime from a single pac or corporation or special interest or lobbyist is driven by people, and they are the energy that you're seeing that i hope i'm reflecting back right now. i'm grateful to be running this campaign with them. >> all right, well, thank you, presidential hopeful beto
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we're back. we're in columbia, south carolina today where the state is holding its democratic party convention. here's my panel, jason johnson, politics editor for the root, and an msnbc political contributor, and atima o'mara, a democratic strategist. well, atima, cory booker is taking the stage and he's about to start speaking. let's listen in. >> now, look, a whole a lot of people running for president these days, 2020 election does not stand for the year. it stands for the number of people running, 2020. but you all know in this room where power comes from. it doesn't come from an individual or an office. it comes from the grassroots. you all are the power. you all are the purpose.
you all are what's going to help us win. look, i live in a low-income inner city community. we don't mistake wealth with worth where i live. we know where power comes from. look, i want to tell you the truth. when i first came to the inner city of newark, new jersey, the neighborhood i still live in, i had this idea coming in as a yale law student, i was going to lead things. but i met a grassroots leader who was the president in the projects in which i lived for almost a decade. and i still remember when i told her, she can see why are you here, she goes if you want to help me, you got to come down to the street and tell me what you see in my neighborhood. and she goes, describe what you see. and i described the projects and abandoned building being used for drugs. i talked about the graffiti and i described what i saw but more i talked, the more this woman looked at me like she was upset
with me. and i finally said, what's wrong, and she said, boy, you need to understand something. the world you see outside of you is a reflection of what you have inside of you. if you look around my communities and all you see is problems and darkness and despair, that's all there's ever going to be. but if you are one of those people that you're stubborn, you see hope, opportunity, and love, then you can be one of the people that helps me. i want to tell you a lot of folks are talking about themselves, but i want to talk about you. because when i learned in newark, eventually become the mayor of that city, that the hope for our community did not lie in one individual in one office. it lied with the people in our ability to come together and stand together and work together and fight together and win together. [ cheers ] and so let me tell you right now, let me tell you right now, a lot of people want to make this election all about donald
trump. well, let me tell you, i'm running for office because we will beat donald trump. but let me tell you, let me tell you, that's not all we need to do. beating donald trump is the floor. it's not the ceiling. beating donald trump gets us out of the valley but it does not get us to the mountain top. i'm running for office because i believe that we as a people can get to the mountaintop. i'm not running because of what we're against. we as a party must stand up for what we're for. we are for in the united states of america once and for all, health care being a right for all americans. [ cheers ] we are for every job in america having a living wage, the right to organize, the right to retire with security. we are for public education, and making sure that public school teachers are paid what they are
worth and raising their salaries. we are for ending the school-to-prison pipeline. we are for standing up to making sure that we don't stick our head in the ground on climate change, but this is the nation that leads us out of this crisis. [ cheers ] i want you all to know this election has to be about us. so many people think that we want to make it all about him. i walked into a town hall up in iowa, man comes up to me and says, hey, i want you to punch donald trump in the face. and i go, hey, man, that's a felony. [ laughter ] we will not beat donald trump by fighting him using his tactics on his turf, on his terms. he wants this election to be about hate. we better make it about love. he wants to make this election
about tearing people down. we're going to make it about building people up. he wants to make this election about dividing folks, we are going to unite this country and put more indivisible into this one nation under god. i want you all to know i still go home to newark. we have seven people shot in my community just last week. the problems we face were going on before donald trump was in office. we live in a perilous time. we could be the first generation of americans to have lower life expectancy than our one before. we see this nation now, baby boomers 95% better economically than their parents. we're down to 50/50. i know we got to beat donald trump, but there's something in the balance. it's a referendum on who we are to each other.
and we are a nation of love. and so i want to tell you right now, they made a mistake giving me a hammer. i want to tell you all right now, where martin luther king was slain, i was taught by that woman on the fifth floor of the projects that hope is the active conviction that despair will never have the last word. where martin luther king was slain, they decided not to write a tribute to him. they decided to write a challenge to us, where king was slain, there's words there that are joseph's words, joseph's brother's words they uttered before they grabbed him and threw him into a ditch. these are the words that are written where king was slain, a challenge to us, the words from genesis, it says behold, here cometh the dreamer, let us slay him and see what comes of the dream. well, this is a referendum on the dream. we now in our generation have to stand up and dream again, bold
dreams and defiant dreams, dreams of love, dreams that are that our ancestors fought and died for. i want to ask you, south carolina, will you stand and dream with me again? will you dream america again? will we dream this country anew? bold dreams, defiant dreams. if we dream together and work together and love together, we won't just beat donald trump, but we will make it to the mountaintop and we will get to the promised land. thank you. thank you, south carolina. [ cheers ] let us dream again. [ cheers ] >> back with me, jason johnson, political editor for the root and atima o'mara, a democratic strategist. we heard cory booker, and cory booker was preaching and talking
about dreaming and talking about there's more than just going after donald trump, that it's about restoring dreaming in america. will that resonate with voters? >> i think it certainly with with a certain generation of voters. i think younger folks who are really looking at this election and a new way of doing things, millennials and gen zers and gen x too. how can we restructure in a way that has an opportunity for everyone because a lot of people some of the way things happened have not worked. the full promise of america has not been realized for everyone still. >> jason? >> so once the collection plate is done being passed -- i expect the old ladies to be running in the aisle and taking their hats off. it was very impressive. but the bigger thing i noticed since i got here but he has a
crowd out here. he had one of the largest contingents of people. his speech was a classic enthusiastic cory booker speech. it looks like he has a really good on the ground organization and that's what he's going to need. if he survives past area, he's going to need zealots on the ground. if the crowd is any indicator, he's got them here. >> you got the polls saying joe biden is way ahead with black voters. you have two african-americans in the race. you have kamala harris, senator from california, and cory booker we just saw from new jersey who will be joining me shortly. what will upset the perception of who has the command of the black vote? if biden does not win the black vote in south carolina, what does that say if he wins overwhelmingly and kamala harris or cory booker -- what do they
have to show in south carolina? >> they're never going to have to show that they can get a large demographic of voters. for them both seem to be the play, a lot of younger black voters are are still shopping and they're still looking at senator booker and senator harris very seriously. over 50, lot more african-american voters are interested in biden, but some of them are also still shopping, right? so it's still early yet. i think biden has higher name recognition than both, but both of them clearly by their presence looking at some cory booker heads right now is there's a lot of energy and they know this is going to be crucial for them to keep carrying on to super tuesday. >> biden wins, iowa is done. he'll run the table f. biden only wins iowa by two points, if he's 31-29 against harris and harris ends up winning south carolina, then we could have a hillary/obama situation for the next four or five months as they compete together.
if someone can demonstrate that white voters would be willing to vote for cory booker or castro or kamala harris, then joe biden, his support amongst black voters will evaporate by the time he gets here if he loses in iowa. >> well, the fact that you have two african-americans dilute a consolidated african-american vote for a consolidated candidate. >> right. >> and then we see who comes ahead. i remember in 2004, a lot of my staff wanted -- we got to do better than carroll. do we have that same tension here with kamala harris and with cory booker? >> if they're still in the race, right? look, i just rote a piece this week about senator harris and working class black men. people don't realize how important black men actually are in the south carolina primary. there's more black men voting than white women or white men. she can't just run up the score
of black women. she has to run with black men too. if cory is still in the race -- >> black men were significant in alabama. they were only two or three points behind black women. >> not always. >> the black men vote showed up too. >> always two points behind black women. >> when you're dealing in the 90s, that's a significant vote. >> here's the thing, if her victory is contingent upon not having a gender split because she's already leading cory, senator booker in the pools. senator booker has to build his numbers in general. she can't just depend on the black vote because they'll be between biden and harris. he's going to have a more generalized strategy because i doubt he'll win in iowa. >> in this state we also know that the black community and the general community is more conservative than in other states. >> yeah. >> how do the more progressives play in this state?
we saw bernie sanders today and elizabeth warren was here and pete buttigieg. how does that differ in terms of the reaction of voters here differently? because this is still bible belt, even in the black part of the state, which are the majority of the primary voters? >> i think it's going to be talking about the issues that are still very important to the democratic primary electorate which is health care, the economy, it's really fixing and make sure -- the medicare for all is taking off across the base of the democratic party, because it's something we know is still a major issue that still needs to be improved upon. so focusing on issues that are sort of like the bread and butter while still being able to talk about abortion rights, civil rights, lbgtq rights, and talking about an opportunity for all is really going to resonate in a large way in these parts of the country. >> they want to know that you can win, period. they're the ones who are like,
we want trump out of office. so showing them that you have a plan to not just beat -- it's similar to what cory booker just did. it's not just about beating donald trump. we have to fix the problems that existed before he got into office and will continue while he's in office. that's what progressives are looking for. they need a victory speech. they need someone who can march through. >> to jason's point, that's exactly why elizabeth warren is surging as well as she is. she has a plan for that. she really has been putting forward aggressive policies of not only are we going to oppose trump but we have a plan for a better america for everyone. >> all right. we're going to bring in former vice president joe biden who is speaking right now. let's listen in. snow. than i've ever be
♪ >> thank you. is my time running? whoa. my time's running. i'm sorry. hey, thank you, everybody. i never like to cut off cheers, but my time is running here. welcome, south carolina. we're happy to be here. the only thing i miss is my buddy fritz, he was one of my mentors and i'm sorry he's not here. you know in your bones this election is more important than any one you've engaged in. we have a president who's encouraged white supremacy and goes around the world weakening our alliances. our children are watching in the matters the president say and do.
barack obama, they emulated. they wanted to be like him. four more years of donald trump will permanently change the character of this country. we can't let that happen. we have to beat donald trump as the overwhelming imperative we have. folks, we have to begin to rebuild the backbone of this nation, hard-working people, middle class people. wall street did not build america. you built america. average people given a chance built america. and right now the poor are getting poorer and from the bottom they are falling out of the middle class. income inequality is at an all-time high. it's time we start to reward work over wealth. we need big and bold ideas. folks, on day one, on day one i will move to eliminate trump's tax cuts as well for the super wealthy.
and literally cut close to 400 to $500 billion to tax loopholes that have no social redeeming value and put that money to good use. health care, ladies and gentlemen, we need to save and build upon the affordable care act, not jettison it. 20 million are covered that weren't before. over 130 million people with preexisting conditions. folks, wel have to finish the job. under my plan, whether you're covered by your employer, on your own, or not at all, you will be able to buy into an option like medicare and you'll be able to have it. if you don't have the money, you will automatically be enrolled in that. we will guarantee that the poor are, in fact, covered because they can be and it's within our interest and we'll save billions
of dollars. ladies and gentlemen, education, 12 years is no longer enough for the 21st century of education. folks, that's why i want to triple title 1 funding for schools in distress. by the way, we can afford to do this. $15 billion to $45 billion, we need universal prek, we need to raise teachers' pay, we have to fully fund special skpegs double the number of school psychologists, guidance counselors, nurses, because teachers can't do it all on their own. folks, we can easily afford free community college cutting in half the cost of four-year colleges for everyone qualified to get in and further than that, we have to do something and reduce the student debt, which i don't have time to go into now, but we will. child care, i know what it's like to be a single parent. i was one for five years and i had a lot of help. i can't imagine what it's like
for people that don't have the kind of help i had in my the people. we should provide an $8,000 tax credit for every single person who has a child that needs child care. ladies and gentlemen, climate change. we have to restore what barack and i did in terms of fuel economy and doubling fuel economy as well as dealing with coal fired plants. we can double offshore wind energy by 2030, providing $400 billion for clean energy, research, and innovation, twice as much as we spent going to the moon. ladies and gentlemen, we also have to immediately hold polluters accountable. you saw the headline in today's pair, in your paper, it says south carolina, $2 billion problem, pipes like tissue paper threatening public health. it is unacceptable that that occurred. we can afford it. it's not just in south carolina, it's around america. criminal justice reform, there are too many people in prison,
too many black men, and i might add, black women in prison. [ cheers ] look, in our administration we started to address the problem,ing federal prisons by 38,000 people came out. and then we passed the support of school discipline initiative to break the school-to-prison pipeline. but we need to have the safe justice act. no more mandatory minimums period. fund my drug courts so a billion dollars a year no one should be going to jail because they are addicted. they should be going into rehabilitation, not to jail. [ cheers ] bail reform. just because you don't have the money should you be languishing in jail. ladies and gentlemen, no juveniles in adult prisons. mandatory treatment in jail for
people who also suffer from addiction. decriminalize marijuana and automatically expunge records for those that have been convicted. [ cheers ] by the way, instead of teaching people how to be better criminals in prison, we should be educating people in prison. it's in our interest to do so. automatic restoration of rights once your sentence is served, meaning not only you can vote, but you're qualified for every program, including pell grants to go on and get your education. it makes no sense. look, folks, we have to unite this country. we have to unite it. look, we're on the cusp of major changes, we can do this by doubling nih's budget and set up a new project i proposal like what happened in the defense department to find how to come up with the whole internet, provide billions of dollars for basic refer. i call it health care, focus on
research and take all the technology we have to focus on solving problems which within our reach like the moon show the. i beat the nra before. we ought to ban assault weapons again, which i did, and limit magazines. by the way, use technology so you can't fire a gun unless it has your biometric prints on it and you have to pass background checks that i put into law as a consequence of the brady. science and technology can reshape our lives. i'm never more optimistic about this country. we ought to pick our heads up. i remember the phrase from john kennedy when he wanted to go to the moon, he said because we're unwilling to postpone, i'll unwilling to postpone any longer this nation. god bless you all and may god protect our troops. thank you, thank you, thank you.
thank you. >> i'd like to welcome my next guest here at the south carolina democratic party convention, presidential candidate and new jersey senator cory booker. senator booker. >> reverend it's good to be on with you. i want to give you a personal thank you. my church, you preached. people are still talking about it. i'm sorry i wasn't there to greet. >> you i do it every father's day. you're usually there with us. >> yes. >> you made a rousing speech, really bringing the crowd to the mountaintop in memory of dr. king. you have a huge contingent here. what is your message in south carolina and what do you think south carolina electromagnetic will mean
to your team? >> this is home turf to me. my dad grew up in henderson. as a guy that's been the chief executive of a city, newark has been left out, looked aside, looked down on. i'm here to tell south carolina, number one, i will be the candidate that focuses on the issues of the people in this state because they are personal to me. even more than that, too many democrats see this as a stepping-stone to a nomination and a presidency. this is a blue state. people like jamie harris are running for senator, we could win races that we're not winning right now. so i'm looking forward to building a party from the grassroots up. that was the message in my speech. it's not about the candidates. we have a lot of agreements up there. what it's about is igniting the grassroots so that we can become a 50-state party and begin to have the power we need to actually transform health care in this country, wages in this country, revive public education to the greatest on the planet.
politics is a team sport. we need more people elected and we do not that by empowering the grassroots. that's the kind of leader i want to be. >> we heard today the president after talking with nancy pelosig i.c.e. out to deal with illegal immigrants. how do you react to that? >> i'm angry. this kind of fearmongering, these mass deportations, the kind of threat he put into communities. i live, again, in newark. the fear is so big in those communities that people are afraid to come out of their homes. these are people with american spouses, american children. it's tearing apart families, it's hurting people. we create a much safer community when we don't have this kind of bullying, this kind of fearmongering, these kinds of threats to deport people that in many ways from d.r.e.a.m.ers to people who have been in this country for decades, we need to have an immigration that has a path to citizenship and doesn't
create such broadscale fear. if he thinks he's going to try to intimidate us into capitulating into his outrageous immigration policies, his wal a -- wall and more, he has another think coming. >> you were in the hearing on reparations hr-40. >> i testified in that historic moment. >> why was that important to you? the reparations of descendants of africa? >> because you know the kind of fears we have in economic inequities to inequities of civility. these are all slaveries that we have well into our 60s and 70s that purposely excluded african-americans. and we have got to find a way to create equality in our country, to address these past ills and
set off on a trajectory for more success. not just from black people, because when a child is denied an opportunity, denied the opportunity to manifest their genius, we all suffer as a result for it. this is something we should be bringing. my legislation of the senate would bring the best lines of our country to figure out how to suggest these past ills and figure out equality for all which is a common problem in our country. >> which is why former vice president joe biden addressed his convention. you called on him to apologize to states working with people like former senator eastland or the late senator eastland and others who are outright racist segregationists. he called you. what happened on the phone call and has he apologized, or do you feel he still needs to? >> let me be clear about this. i work across the aisle with folks i disagree with a lot. that's not the issue.
in fact, we need to have a country that can work across our gaps and gulfs more. the way he said it caused a lot of hurt and harm in communities like the one i live in by saying, hey, this avowed racist called me son, didn't call me boy. the reason he called you son, the power dynamics here, is he sees you as a person that could be his child. the reason he calls black people boy is to degrade or dehumanize them, a grown man. that to me was something that showed -- he shouldn't need that lesson and he should understand that he's trampling on hurtful, harmful words in history. i said my piece, he said his. i was a little taken aback that before our conversation he said i should apologize to him. i make no apology for speaking truth to power, especially in a time that we're going to need leaders in our party that can unify us, elevate u bris, bring
together. he did not show that spirit we need, especially going into a fight against donald trump where we're going to be able to need to energize, organize and frankly bring together all our diverse parties. >> if he's nominated, could you support him? >> absolutely. whoever is our nominee, i trust our people. i trust our party. i will fall behind that person and i will -- you will not find another candidate that's more committed to seeing whoever is nominated. but i believe that i will be the nominee. and i believe that because i believe i can unify our party. i can speak to the higher at operations and urgencies of a time when we're too divided, we need to heal, we need to come together and we need to be a nation that addresses the persistent injustices. i have a lot of respect for vice president biden, a lot of gratitude for him and his years of service. for me, though, i was taught as a young man that being nice and being kind often means you say
the difficult things to people, even those that you love, that you don't try to sweep it under the rug or ignore it. we need to have the difficult conversations in our country, even to those people we respect. especially if they have a chance to go on and leading. i hope this has been a learning moment for him and i hope he does not tread upon those tired racist tropes that have so hurt people in the past. >> you will be in the debates this week. first debate wednesday night. what is your plan at the debate that would distinguish you without being divisive? >> you know, these are wonderful opportunities for all of us. we have been in such an extraordinary field, from luminaries and veterans like joe biden to a lot of new folks on the stage. it's extraordinary. and so my view of this is it's a chance to put your heart and your spirit as well as your ideas before the american people. it's not -- i don't think you're going to see a bunch of fighting
amongst us because we all in many ways agree with the same ambitions of more access to health care, raising wages in this country. but i want to let folks know specifically what my ideas are and i want them to understand my heart, my passion and my experience, having been the chief executive of new jersey's largest city and a senator that got major pieces of legislation like the first step back criminal justice reform done in the united states senate. >> many thanks to you, senator cory booker, for being with us tonight. we're not done yet. up next, former vice president joe biden joins me right here on set. this is "politics nation" live from south carolina's democratic party convention. y convention but some give their clients cookie cutter portfolios. fisher investments tailors portfolios to your goals and needs. some only call when they have something to sell. fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. and while some advisors are happy to earn commissions whether you do well or not. fisher investments fees
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