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Simply didnt know. in other cases, i think he -- its situational awareness. this happens in syria. he does have people around him who are pulling him in a direction that is -- reflects were establishment thinking. syria is a good example of that with the influence of a tillerson, of a mattis, h.r. mcmaster. those are things that you should want in terms of a maturation process from a candidate with no experience to becoming the commander in chief. >> david chalian, on china, we got insight into ...