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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:26:00

medical examiner couldn t say whether heidy s death was a homicide. and johnson knew that would be a huge hurdle in court. based on my experience, courts with juries, and medical examiners cork carry a lot of weight. so, johnson and wallace showed the m. e. a 96-page powerpoint presentation of all their evidence. including those measurements. hoping something would sway him. the presentation worked. the medical examiner changed his really. two homicide. it sounds like one of the things that got the medical examiner to move from any conclusive to homicide, was the measurements of the crime scene suggested that her body was too far from mr. truman said she had been shot. exactly. so, after a ten month investigation, the orem police department and the da s office arrested conrad truman. and charged him with his wife s murder. my mom called me and i fell

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210808 08:26:00

his wife? under the circumstances, i d say the motive was just based on that heat of passion. argument that they were having. alcohol, a fight, and again, that is where we got murder. at the same time, johnson was still reluctant to press charges. remember, the states own medical examiner couldn t say whether heidy s death was a homicide. and johnson knew that would be a huge hurdle in court. based on my experience, courts with juries, and medical examiners cork carry a lot of weight. so, johnson and wallace showed the m.e. a 96-page powerpoint presentation of all their evidence. including those measurements. hoping something would sway him. the presentation worked. the medical examiner changed his really. two homicide. it sounds like one of the things that got the medical examiner to move from any conclusive to homicide, was the measurements of the crime scene

Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson 20191225 15:25:00

why would conrad truman want to kill his wife? under the circumstances, i d say the motive was just based on this heat of passion argument that they were having. alcohol, a fight and guns, that s where we got murder. reporter: at the same time johnson was still reluctant to press charges. remember, the state s own medical examiner couldn t say whether heidy s death was a homicide. and johnson knew that would be a huge hurdle in court. based on my experience in courts with juries, a medical examiner carries a lot of weight. reporter: so johnson and wallace showed the m.e. a 96-page power point presentation of all their evidence including those measurements, hoping something would sway him. the presentation worked. the medical examiner changed his ruling to homicide. it sounds like one of the things that got the medical examiner to move from inconclusive to homicide was the measurements of

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline Extra 20191223 04:25:00

kill his wife? under the circumstances, i d say the motive was just based on this heat of passion argument that they were having. alcohol, a fight and guns, that s where we got murder. reporter: at the same time, johnson was still reluctant to press charges. remember, the state s own medical examiner couldn t say whether heidy s death was a homicide. and johnson knew that would be a huge hurdle in court. based on my experience in courts with juries, a medical examiner carries a lot of weight. reporter: so johnson and wallace showed the m.e. a 96-page powerpoint presentation of all their evidence including those measurements, hoping something would sway him. the presentation worked. the medical examiner changed his ruling to homicide. it sounds like one of the things that got the medical examiner to move from inconclusive to homicide was the measurements of the crime scene suggested that

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191207 10:26:00

say the motive was just based on this heat of passion argument that they were having. alcohol, a fight and guns, that s where we got murder. reporter: at the same time johnson was still reluctant to press charges. remember, the state s own medical examiner couldn t say whether heidy s death was a homicide. and johnson knew that would be a huge hurdle in court. based on my experience in courts with juries, a medical examiner carries a lot of weight. reporter: so johnson and wallace showed the m.e. a 96-page power point presentation of all their evidence including those measurements, hoping something would sway him. the presentation worked. the medical examiner changed his ruling to homicide. it sounds like one of the things that got the medical examiner to move from inconclusive to homicide was the measurements of the crime scene suggested that her body was too far from where mr. truman said she d been shot.

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