it s why those congressional committee. it s why i believe there has to be criminal indictments towards these people, and justice ultimately should be done. classic trumpian fashion is also when he is in the hot seat, he delays, and he punches back. counterattacks. a court to maggie haberman of the new york times. those tactics aren t working so well anymore. do you agree? i do agree. laws also frustrating enterprise for anyone. but when you have a serial liar like donald trump. with someone who is bent on using every, you know, grace that the legal system gives someone. in order to abuse it and delay. it gets frustrating, but ultimately justice does, and my experience went out in the courts. and i think trump stays here are numbered. it is a long process, he s got a lot of lucky breaks. but i think justice is coming for him. pleading the fifth over 400 times. that takes its toll.
i think it is talking about the stats. because even though the stats are there we know the historic job games. we know the history gains economy has seen. and also, the emphasis on prices and proving whether that s for gas related or energy cost. but people are still not optimistic. i think was important the white house talking through the stats is the reality that they still know people are struggling, especially at a moment when we know a lot of the covid related benefits are about to roll off come. and so, communication in a way that human, and understanding, and in touch with what people are experiencing every day. it will be critical, because reciting stats is gonna get to that far especially in the election year. when people aren t feeling good. people who aren t feeling good and that s what s most for democrats folks. on final, we ll see a workday really really long day. then let you go, juanita tolliver, matthew, that thank you both so much. when we come back, trump s
destruction. that s what he stands for. we all know boris johnson qassem oppression certify lives. so on this, night we applaud the former prime minister for speaking up and speaking out. he s giving us another reminder that the truth matters. but only if you hear it. we re gonna do our best and tell it every damn night. and on that note, i wish you all a very good night. remove our colleagues across the networks of nbc news thanks for staying up late i ll see you at them to-ites. them to-ites. there has been a ton of movement in the two sprawling criminal investigations into former president donald trump. one that is being conducted by special counsel, jack smith. those two investigations are of course trump s squirreling away of classified documents at his mar-a-lago beach club.
hasn t turned on trump, yet instead, he d rather spend the last portion of his life on earth sitting in one of the worst jails in this country. weiner is the prosecutors, think oh, maybe he will see the light now? he has shown no sign of that. he s obviously staying over on the dark side. but i think to be two things that prosecutors might be thinking about here. one, is that in the past, trump has had more power. he was the president at one point when this investigation is going on. then, even afterwards, it looked like he had more political muscle then, frankly has right now. that s one thing that might be in their mind. which is weisselberg can t bank on trump protecting once he s out of jail, in the same way. and the second thing is, now, weisselberg s been in jail. it s one thing to stick up your old boss before you ve actually had to spend the real time in prison, but some other thing to continue to do so when you ve actually been stuck in rikers.
president. that is criminal activity was so extensive he had to play guessing games about which grand jury, tom fitted, this conservative activists was before. and we are sure, we are pretty sure it s one of those two investigations. but in classic trumpian fashion, we can t be sure as to which. because trump s committee is involved in both. and 15 is involved in both. so fit in this kind of like a one-stop shop for federal prosecutors right now. we re looking into trump s potential criminality. with respect to these two different investigations. but they are two very different investigations. and as of now the reporting is indicating whether 15 was there for one or the other. i think that statement that you just read from peyton s just so telling. it just underscores that it was a set play by trump s advisers to the clear victory before the election even happened. and that, of course culminated in the horrific events of january 6th.