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And it gets very complicated obviously, is whether or not the cr would be separated from the debt ceiling. this appears to be the one bit of leverage that some republicans think they still have over the president because they know how desperately the white house wants to get this whole shutdown thing over with, right? tell us how you think that plays out. >> well, you and -- ed was talking about it a minute ago which was this, the president doesnt want to continue to face pressure to reopen or r...

Like i mentioned specifically, a lot of tea party people will vote against whatever comes down. can he do 18 and why doesnt the white house hold out for a long term extension? >> youll have to ask the white house on that front. john boehner -- i think i heard perry bacon say this in the last segment, he risked his own political viblt if he brings something to the floor that enrages debate, which is what a clean -- at least last week a clean debt ceiling and clean cr would have done. >> jackie, t...

Complete -- is basically a complete declaration, declaring complete, total, abject defeat and just passing a cr and debt ceiling hike and then just saying, okay, lets talk about the budget. >> i think thats exactly whats going to happen. so then theyll have their budget negotiations, which arent going to go anywhere, because theres still huge disagreement -- >> thats right, because theres the same intractable problems you have with the super committee, the same intractable problems that couldnt ...

People. >> thats part of whats going to be the fight thats getting set up. but heres what was perverse today. you had the polling, 75% saying wrong track, which chuck todd pointed out really astutely. he said, thats the highest number weve seen since lehman. and what were seeing is a political great recession. >> they were the most unpopular congress in 2011, and the most unpopular congress in 2012, and theyre the most unpopular congress today. you can only go from 14 to 12 to 10 in terms of app...

Canyon and thats where we have ended up. what we should have been focused on and we wouldnt be where we are today, are the things we normally focus on at this time. again, thats spending and getting those kind of things under control. the fact that weve been on a three or four week major rabbit trail that took us no place but into this box canyon certainly has hurt the country and has hurt this process, but again, the good thing, wolf, is were finally on the right subject matter and everybody is...

Im not negotiating. >> the spoker eaker of the hous cant negotiate on behalf of the conference. >> you just did. he is going there in an hour and a half. >> i want to praise this short-term deal. i would be in favor of a clean debt limit. we are going to have a clean cr for six weeks and make sure we dont default and have hard negotiations. >> there is no credibility with this president. >> guys, i got to stop it right here. but i want you to stick around because we are going to have another iss...

So the tea party putting the debt ceiling off the table is a gift to them in the sense that it at least allows them form a semblance of a strategy. if you think about what is the republican coalition if you can even call it that at this point. if you have wall street and the tea party and heritage together, that is pretty much the republicans telling them not to blow up the debt ceiling. that means theyre not going to blow up the debt ceiling, so theyre talking about a 30-day, 60-day clean exten...

Point. clearly they stood their ground on obama care. you know, i dont think there is any kind of so-called grand bargain to be had out of this. and i think what weve got to start to think about here as the american people and as elections start to come up is look at where we are. look at discretionary spending as a percentage of gdp here in the united states, lowest its ever been in the last ten years. look at the budget that is on the table right now for the cr, which is as you have reported h...

October. one year from now, what are we going to be talking about? well, its going to be the success of obama care, but thing is some election coming up in november of next year. do you really think that the republicans want to be sitting here a year from now talking about whether the country is going to pay its bills or not. do you think thats going to be popular for them to go home and say hey, im in this town hall with all you wonderful constituents. by the way, i think weve got a problem wit...

Again to say we felt like this has been taken care of two weeks ago. if this was missed, lets make it clear again this should be paid for. this is one of those many issues as we walk into it to lay the groundwork to say we dont want a shut down, it shouldnt affect the military. they were the hardest hit and shouldnt have to take anything during a shutdown. >> piers, the other thing that happen ed is john boehner went o harry reid and said i can get you an extension at the republican budget numbe...