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I really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> i want to go back to this -- the senate conservative fund. this is all about citizens united, choking the chain of these guys on the right. if they dont act right, theyre going to get targeted. tell your thoughts on this. is that really the root cause on this and why boehner cant make a move? >> ed, in many respects, it is. whats going on right now, we have seen some moderate or moderate/conservative republicans having the guts to stand up to boehner and ...

That will not vote for a clean cr. >> appreciate you being on. thank you. >> thank you. thats one end of the republican spectrum. were joined by congressman. you heard congressman grim there saying bring this up for a clean vote. why is that not the right thing to do? >> i didnt hear him say that -- >> he ask -- >> i didnt hear him say that. i missed that if he can. we had a conversation earlier today and i heard him say, i gisz, it would not pass. i agree with him. our offer to the senate is ...

Wouldnt have appropriations which would leave the government wide open to a shutdown come october 1st. no budget on greeed to. all you have to do is kill one bill, the cr. here he is coming along saying lets kill the cr. didnt anybody see this mousetrap when he was setting it? i guess cuccinelli didnt. hes been running it up so he could be the troublemaker and the hero of the hard right. your thoughts. >> he may be the hero of the hard right, but going into virginia this weekend might actually -...

Operation but the spectacle in washington, which is kind of grouped under the heading government shutdown. what they see is this endless trench warfare that is embarrassing us in front of the rest of the world. thats what they say is the serious problem. >> to charles point, we are approaching the point where something has to change in this dynamic day-to-day. and it doesnt appear that theres any movement. >> well, thats because the debt ceiling is still 11, 12 days away. if we didnt have a debt...

Congress and their employees, the gold plated plan we found out about yesterday. but what were going to do is solve problems. the democrats identified a problem at the nih. cancer trials for children arent enrolling patients. well, we passed the bill to solve that. >> what appropriations bills were sent before october 1st. >> my gosh, we sent the defense, the military -- we sent homeland security, we sent four different appropriations bills over to the senate. the senate took action on none of t...

Holding together. this is more than 40 congressmen at this point. now were beginning to see some fractures and maybe a dozen house republicans looking for a way out. but theyve held force with not just the tea party, although it does seem tea party driven, obviously. >> ill tell you this. if the democrats get a cr, clear, lets turn the government back on thing and they balk, theyll have a big problem. they better be careful what they ask for. the debt ceiling, are you hearing, getting indication...

To convince themselves of that. if we do some of the hostage language here, they have taken a hostage. now they keep calling the police and wanting to have a negotiation. and the police have said were not negotiating. >> well, is john boehner -- robert, the only thing i can think of, is john boehner basically coming out there in a form of stockholm syndrome to the tea party and almost defending the captors that are holding his feet to the fire that arent allowing him to negotiate and have the go...

Than a lunatic fringe, as mike was talking about, this tea party fringe, if youre looking at poll after poll, they are not winning on this issue. and they have no way of out. in the -- famous words of willie wonka, you get nothing, sir. good day. you lose. they already lost. on this issue. how many times, ed? theyre going to lose again. >> jesse, how can the democrats screw this up? i mean, and -- you know, theyre going to have to hold their ground. what would be the ramifications if they didnt?...

Well, you know, i understand that, you know, thats the concern. obviously its the concern that the speaker has to whether or not, you know, his republicans would back him up, but this is a point at which the interests of the country are a hell of a lot more important than the parties. this country is hurting right now. and i think what you need to do is to allow the house of both democrats and republicans to vote on this issue. i suspect you can get a majority of republicans, along with a majori...

In which there was all this, rumor, peter king, 24, 25 moderates. want a vote on a clean cr. bill comes up. think it got six votes. two moderates. four were people who thought not conservative enough. that sort of tells you everything you need to know about where the party is going. >> its not just. the primary challenge is real. and odonnell represents a line in the sand. there was a fascinating interview, a well sourced conservative, writes for conservative media. ezra asks robert, how did the...