community from ever occurring in our city. it will not reduce the disproportionate crime disparity that has been a public health crisis in our city for decades. it won t change the culture of a police existence for 155 years. msnbc law enforcement analyst carmen best joins me now and, of course, the former police chief of seattle. resigned when the city council voted to slash the police department by 50%. and this is her new book. black and blue: lessons on leadership, break bearing yers and racial reconciliation. i have my own copy of it, i m very glad to that. and carmen, the first african-american police chief and a member of black lives matter taking stands against systemic racism and police brutality. where do you stand on the idea of replacing the police department?