law. on the equality under the law you cannot be sdrim in ative based upon your race or gender or sexual preference. so in some times, the cull mtur may be behind the law. it's leaf legal to have race discrimination. took ten years to get a public bill and the right to vote in front of the culture. sometimes the culture lags. equality under the law cannot be avoided. >> are you comfortable with the fact the president said i'm going to leave it up to the states? >> well, if you say we support the right to vote and leave it to the states, you won't get the right to vote. that's what it's about. overcoming civil rights for a more perfect union. he took a bold step. >> but did it in a culture. not talked about under federal law? >> it has to be. ultimately one must have 50