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immigrants. the department of justice said the men had very detailed plans. 7:00 on the dot on this sunday morning. and we're always grateful to >> it's alleged the defendants have your company. i'm chris can i paul. conducted surveillance to size >> i'm victor blackwell. good morning. up potential targets, stockpile a new "washington post"/abc news poll has hillary clinton just firearms, ammunition and four points ahead of donald explosive components. trump. this is coming as another woman they prepared a manifesto now says that donald trump describing their beliefs to be kissed her without consent published after the bombing. nearly 20 years ago. her name is cathy heller. one of them said the bombing she is the ninth trump accuser. would quote wake people up. but the trump campaign says >> the investigation took eight months. there is no way, that's a quote, if convicted, curtis allen, no way her account is true. >> in the meantime donald trump gavin wright and patrick smith not backing down from his claims are facing life in prison. this election is being rigged. people don't have power this despite paul ryan expressing confidence in the system, trump morning after a fierce storm hit says clinton was "getting pumped the pacific northwest. this was a storm that was made up" before the last debate, and up of remnants of a typhoon. he had this suggestion. two people were hurt by falling tree branches. >> we should take a drug test the storm hit just one day after two tornadoes hit the oregon coast. prior -- because i don't know what's going on with her. at least two dozen homes were damaged. let me take to you nevada >> hillary clinton, meanwhile, where more than 1,000 firefighters are battling a seems to be haunted still by wikileaks. growing wildfire. after more hacked e-mails have it's the little valley fire near been released, including what appears to be transcripts of lake tahoe. three paid speeches to goldman already destroyed 22 homes. strong winds are making it sachs. cnn has not independently difficult to contain this fire. verified the authenticity of the right now it's 20% contained. e-mails. we know four people were treated cnn's phil mattingly, though, is following this and has some for smoke inhalation and the more. phil? >> reporter: hey, victor and governor has declared a state of christi. for donald trump there's no emergency. if you go swimming with question about it. his campaign at this point is donald trump trying to play sharks, and more power to you -- defense, more or less. but in a very trumpian type >> why would you ever do that. fashion. >> at least you can be safe inside a steel cage, would you and that means going on offense, believe it or not. think. maybe not. even though as many as nine look at this video here. women have now made allegations of sexual misconduct related to did you see the size of that great white shark when it donald trump, donald trump is surfaced? watch this. according to the man who posted not pulling back. he's not trying to put it behind him. he's not even focused on some of the video it's going after a the issues that his advisers have told him are necessary to win swing states like ohio or rope with tuna on it. colorado or virginia. the shark is not attacking the he is attacking. attacking the women, attacking cage it's struggling against it. their stories, even attacking their appearances. look at this thing. take a listen. they can't swim backwards. that's what happened. here's the good news. >> we're going to stop it. the diving instructor in that we're not going to back down. and remember this, it's a rigged election because you have phony people coming up with phony cage swam out unharmed. what a story to tell and it's on video documented. allegations, with no witnesses >> so many questions. whatsoever, ending up from 20 we don't have time to get to all years ago, 30 years ago. of them. >> make some great memories how about this crazy woman on the airplane? today and thank you for sharing your morning with us. okay? i mean, can anybody believe that >> we're handing it over to john one? how about this? king for "inside politics". have a good day. after 15 minutes -- we don't know each other. after 15 minutes she said, well, that was too much. the trump campaign has a new i decided -- 15 minutes? slogan, they are lying. >> i am a victim of one of the with the ladies in this place it would be one second and it would great political smear campaigns be smack. in the history of our country. >> reporter: and guys, it's worth noting that donald trump >> plus as allegations of isn't just focused on the women who have made these allegations, inappropriate advances mount and his support among women plummets he's also really focused rally after rally on the last couple this from trump about hillary days on something else. this idea that the election, clinton on the debate stage. >> she walks in front of me, you that the vote on november 8th will be rigged. know. and when she wal now, the idea of rigged is something that donald trump as we all know has talked about pretty repeatedly over the course of his 16-month campaign. but he has really come into focus on this idea that the electoral process itself is rigged against him, that the combination of the media, hillary clinton, even the republican party leaders who have gone against him over the course of the last couple weeks, it's all part of a grandconspiracy to ensure that he doesn't win on november 8th. now, it's worth noting there is no evidence that the electoral process is rigged against anybody right now. but it is also worth noting that when you talk to donald trump supporters, we talked to a number of them here in maine, they believe everything he's saying. and i can tell you that that is an unsettling prospect not just for hillary clinton's campaign or for democrats but also for republicans. paul ryan's spokesperson putting out a statement saying that he has every faith and confidence that the election will go according to plan and more or less, to paraphrase, is not rigged. but that is not what donald trump has been pushing. it's something raising a lot of questions and concerns. three weeks left in the campaign, donald trump has clearly settled on this issue as one he wants to push going forward. it's something to keep a very close eye on, guys, as we all watch what happens over the course of these days and weeks. victor and christi? >> thank you so much. cnn politics senior reporter steven colinson with us now. good morning to you. we know donald trump, as he said, talking constantly, pretty constantly about this election being rigged, even saying it in the primaries about the primary decisions that were being made. paul ryan, though, says no, he does not believe so. i want to read you his exact verbiage here. paul ryan saying, "our democracy relies on confidence in election results, and the speaker is fully confident the states will carry out this election with integrity." here's the thing. is there a sense donald trump is saying this because if he loses this is his excuse for the loss? or is this more of donald trump trying to highlight what a lot of his supporters think is a broken washington? >> i think it's a bit of both, christi. donald trump has used the idea that he and his supporters have been persecuted by the political establishment as a rallying call for his base throughout this campaign, as you rightly said, in the primaries as well. but i think there's also something more personal going on, as you suggest. if you think about it, donald trump's entire political rationale, his business brand even is built around the idea he's the ultimate winner. sought prospect that he could face defeat on the biggest stage which he's ever ascended must be a very difficult one for him to rationalize. so i think there could be some sort of face saving going on. i think it's a very explosive way of, you know, doing politics. there are a lot of people i think in washington who are becoming increasingly concerned about what would happen if we have a close election if, for instance, hillary clinton won narrowly by a few electoral college votes, and donald trump had gone into the election saying it was rigged from the outset. and i think that's something that's worrying and i think paul ryan's comments from his spokesman reflect that. and we've heard the president talk about it as well. >> okay. let's look at some of these numbers from the washington poll -- post. "washington post" poll that's out today. it was interesting. 68% of people polled say -- or women -- 68% of women polled say they do think donald trump made unwanted sexual advances. this is according to this "washington post"/abc news poll. but 64% of all people polled say that the tape that they saw of what he said on that bus with "access hollywood" makes no difference in,000 they're going to vote. what do you make of that? >> it's very interesting. i think there is also significant evidence in other polls that the exact voters that donald trump needs to win the election, suburban, college-educated women in place like philadelphia and colorado, do not look upon donald trump's alleged offenses very kindly, and it could hurt him in the states he needs to win. it's definitely the case. i think if you look at donald trump's supporters particularly, it doesn't carry much water with them. if you you talk to them it's clear they do believe already the media is totally biased against donald trump, that the establishment is trying to bring him down, that the media is in lag with hi league with hillary clinton, so what he says at his rallies is already on fertile ground. and you have to say that donald trump has made a very intimate connection with these voters, perhaps more than any presidential candidate in several decades on the republican side. their issues, immigration, for example, terrorism, the messages that donald trump is putting across get right to the core of exactly what they believe. so personal allegations for that core of voters i think are much less powerful than they would for more moderate and perhaps undecided voters. >> stephen collinson, appreciate your insight this morning. thank you. next, a closer look at these new numbers after this spate of october surprise. and what's behind donald trump's claim that hillary clinton could be on drugs? and later, political satire courtesy of "snl." >> i strive to be a positive role model for all children. children like my daughter chelsea and my granddaughter chelsea jr. >> mr. trump, same question. do you feel you're modeling appropriate and positive behavior for today's youth? >> no. next. i had so many thoughts once i left the hospital after a dvt blood clot. what about my wife... ...what we're building together... ...and could this happen again? i was given warfarin in the hospital, but wondered, was this the best treatment for me? i spoke to my doctor and she told me about eliquis. eliquis treats dvt and pe blood clots and reduces the risk of them happening again. not only does eliquis treat dvt and pe blood clots. but eliquis also had significantly less major bleeding than the standard treatment. knowing eliquis had both... ...turned around my thinking. don't stop eliquis unless you doctor tells you to. eliquis can cause serious, and in rare cases, fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. if you had a spinal injection while on eliquis call your doctor right away if you have tingling, numbness, or muscle weakness. while taking eliquis, you may bruise more easily... and it may take longer than usual for bleeding to stop. seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding, like unusual bruising. eliquis may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures. eliquis treats dvt & pe blood clots. plus had less major bleeding. both made switching to eliquis right for me. ask your doctor if it's right for you. i've heard it all. eat more fiber. flax seeds. yogurt. get moving. keep moving. i know! try laxatives. been there, done that. my chronic constipation keeps coming back. i know. tell me something i don't know. vo: linzess works differently from laxatives. linzess treats adults with ibs with constipation or chronic constipation. it can help relieve your belly pain, and lets you have more frequent and complete bowel movements that are easier to pass. do not give linzess to children under six and it should not be given to children six to seventeen. it may harm them. don't take linzess if you have a bowel blockage. get immediate help if you develop unusual or severe stomach pain, especially with bloody or black stools. the most common side effect is diarrhea sometimes severe. if it's severe stop taking linzess and call your doctor right away. other side effects include gas, stomach-area pain and swelling. talk to your doctor about managing your symptoms proactively with linzess. the sexual assault scandal surrounding donald trump is getting worse. a ninth woman now has come forward accusing the republican candidate of grabbing, then kissing her without her permission. she says the incident happened nearly 20 years ago at his mar-a-lago estate in florida. cnn has not been able to independently confirm heller's claims, but trump has responded, releasing this statement through his campaign spokesman. here it is. "the media has gone too far in making this false accusation. there is no way that something like this would have happened in a public place on mother's day at mr. trump's resort. it would have been the talk of palm beach for the past two decades. the reality is this. for the media to wheel out a politically motivated democratic activist with a legal dispute against this same resort owned by mr. trump does a disservice to the public and anyone covering this story should be embarrassed for elevating this bogus claim." now, despite the accusations there is this new "washington post"/abc news poll that shows trump four points behind hillary clinton. look at the numbers. same level of support he saw in july before the conventions. let's discuss now with kassim reed, mayor of atlanta and hillary clinton supporter. also betsy mccoy, former lieutenant governor of new york and a donald trump supporter. mr. mayor, madam lieutenant governor, good morning to you. >> good morning, victor. >> nice to see you, victor. >> nice to see you. i want to start, though, with what we heard from donald trump, lieutenant governor, as it relates to potential drug use. let's play it. >> we should take a drug test prior -- because i don't know what's going on with her. but at the beginning of her last debate she was all pumped up at the beginning. and at the end it was like oh, take me down. she could barely reach her car. so i think we should take a drug test. anyway, i'm willing to do it. >> all right. i hear you laughing there. >> i am laughing, victor, because this is donald trump's classic new york humor. i laughed the first time i heard it, and i still laugh when i hear it. but i want to tell you in the same vein that mrs. clinton does have a serious health problem. she has a special form of alzheimer's. whenever she's asked to tell the truth, she can't remember. >> okay. so when you're standing in portsmouth and a state that has such a challenge with a drug problem and you call it his new york humor -- >> it was new york humor. i think you're slanting it to make it sound like it's disrespectful of the people of portsmouth. but in fact -- >> you don't find anything wrong with a presidential candidate claiming that his opponent was high during the debate? >> it was a joke. and he was talking to the half of the nation, the deplorables. and they thought it was very funny. >> mr. mayor? >> i mean, my response is simple. this is a frankenstein candidacy and donald trump is frankenstein's creation and what we're doing is watching a person come apart. and fortunately, we have less than 25 or 26 days left to go and we're going to put this frankenstein to bed. so donald trump should do all of the talking that he wants to do because the bottom line is the only folks he's really speaking to is his base. he's losing women. he's losing independents. and he's losing the election. so that's what we're seeing. we're seeing someone absolutely come apart. he's a national embarrassment. and what we know about donald trump is he prides himself on being a winner. well, he's going to lose on the biggest stage in the world because of his behavior towards women and because of his behavior in the debates. >> let's bring these numbers in. you say he's going to lose. and we put them up earlier. this new abc news/"washington post" poll has him just four points behind hillary clinton but the margin offaror is four points. so it's statistically tied. fox has her seven ahead. the "wall street journal" has her nine points ahead. we'll see if this is an outlier or a trend. it shows here the numbers are the same as they were before the convention. and i'll ask you, mr. mayor, first and then to you, lieutenant governor, if you say he's going lose, where's the evidence of that at least in this poll in the national numbers? >> sure. >> let's put up what has happened since july as you give your answer there. >> okay. well, first of all, national polls, this election won't be determined by the national polls. i happen to believe that she's up by more than that. but if you go state by state and go to the electoral college, there is no serious person who would rather be donald trump than be secretary clinton. the fact of the matter is she's significantly up in pennsylvania. she's up nine. she's up in florida. she's up in north carolina. she's up in colorado. so the point is we have to get to the electoral college. and everybody who's looking at this knows that right now donald trump sits at around 107 to 190 electoral votes and secretary clinton sits at about 260 to 263. so anybody who's saying that don trump has a path, please show it to me. >> lieutenant governor, we have reported extensively here on how this path has gotten narrower. mr. trump needs a collection of states. secretary clinton, as it appears now, needs to pick off one or another here or there of the swing states. your response to what the mayor said? >> well, there's no question that at this point donald trump is the underdog. but as more information comes out, especially from the most recent wikileaks, voters are going to be listening carefully. i'll give you one example, victor. >> yeah. >> in the batch of wikileaks this week mrs. clinton is shown supporting behind closed doors totally open borders and unlimited immigration. she said that in a speech to a brazilian bank. i'm looking -- just a minute -- >> i have to jump in here -- >> no. >> -- because we have you here for another segment to talk about wikileaks. we'll have you here with christi -- but we're going to talk about wikileaks. >> i'm talking about the polls, victor. >> hold on. lieutenant governor -- >> i'm talking about the polls. >> we will get to wikileaks in a moment. i want to get the response to something else. and i promise you'll have that opportunity to talk about that. but i want to put up this tweet that came out from david axelrod who once worked as you know for president obama and now is with cnn. he says this. "drug testing? you have to wonder if hillary clinton will or should reconsider the next debate given the depth to which this has sunk." quickly. we don't have much time. but mr. mayor, what do you think about that potential that hillary clinton will or should reconsider the third debate? >> well, that's why people in america believe that don trump is unfit to be president of the united states, and that's why he is losing this election. he's down in michigan. he's down in florida. >> but should she reconsider the third debate? >> no. she needs to go forward with it. he'll be easy work for her just as he's been in the first two debates. the american people, cnn's results show that she's now won both debates overwhelmingly. and she will win the third. >> lieutenant governor -- >> i think it would be a very smart move for her not to show up for the third debate because she's got a lot of answering to do about what came out in the wikileaks this week. >> and don trump has to answer to nine women who have accused him of sexual -- >> believe me the evidence is already out that those allegations -- >> we've got to wrap it here. we'll have you both back to talk about the wikileaks and the hacking of john podesta's e-mails. mayor reed, lieutenant governor mckaugy, thank you both. >> thank you, victor. >> clinton versus trum. wednesday, final presidential debate showdown, live coverage begins at 4:00 right here on cnn. and as we've discussed, wikileaks is living up to its promise to hack the clinton campaign. ahead, we're going to talk about those e-mails that have been released including what appears to be transcripts of those three paid speeches to goldman sachs. and another story that we're following very closely this morning, at think moment the battle for mosul will begin. why iraq's largest city is a crucial target in this war on isis. who says i shouldn't have a soda everyday? my doctor. my dentist. definitely my wife. wait, i know what i want. make sparkling water at home. and drink 43% more water every day. sodastream. love your water. 23 minutes after the hour now. turkish-backed syrian rebels have beaten isis out of the town of dabe. that's in northern syria. >> the recapture of the city is being called a major symbolic victory in the war on isis. according to a statement in turkish media, troops are now trying to clear the area of mines and ieds. the last group of isis fighters reportedly withdrew overnight. the town there is featured in islamic prophecies and isis used its name for one of its propaganda publications. so let's shift here to the fight against isis in iraq. in a moment iraqi forces are going to start moving into the city of mosul. now the iraqi air force has dropped leaflets warning civilians of the coming fight and some isis fighters we understand already on the run. cnn senior international correspondent ben wedeman has covered this extensively. he joins us live from iraq. ben, help us understand how strong a grasp do the iraqi military believe they have on mosul once they get in there in terms of the isis militants who may still be lingering there? >> well, it's going to be quite a challenge, christi, because mosul is a see that under normal circumstances had a population of about 2 million. now it's somewhere between 700,000 and 1 million. but it is a large city. it's iraq's second largest. and it's one in which isis has, we understand from sources inside the city, prepared some significant defenses. yesterday we learned that isis had released many of the prisoners in its jails. people who were jailed for things like smoking cigarettes, shaving, and wearing the wrong clothing, they have been put into the job of digging trenches and tunnels around the city in anticipation for this coming offensive, which we do believe could be happening any moment now. we understand that the nerves of some of the isis fighters are starting to fray, that some of them have left the city. we understand that many of the foreign fighters have left, probably making their way to syria, perhaps to isis's de facto capital of raqqah. what remains apparently is a small number of chechen and pakistani fighters, and most of the isis fighters are from mosul itself. so they know the terrain well, and we understand that the city has been booby trapped by isis in anticipation of this offensive. so it could be messy, it could be bloody, and it could take quite some time. >> and you do think about all of the people who are still trapped, the civilians who are still trapped in that city as well and what they're going to be enduring. ben wedeman, thank you so much. we appreciate it. is there now new trouble for hillary clinton? wikileaks released a hacked e-mail showing transcripts of her three -- three of i should say her paid speeches to goldman sachs. what's the impact? we'll examine that in a moment. h often feel dry? a dry mouth can cause cavities and bad breath. over 400 medications can cause a dry mouth. that's why there's biotene. biotene can provide soothing dry mouth relief. and it keeps your mouth refreshed too. remember while your medication is doing you good, a dry mouth isn't. biotene, for people who suffer from dry mouth symptoms. good to see you. 7:30 in the morning here. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. >> talking about a new poll out this morning showing hillary clinton and donald trump in a statistical tie here. brand new "washington post"/abc news poll has clinton ahead of trump by just four points. but that is within the margin of error. >> now, the poll was released as another woman comes forward to say donald trump kissed her without consent. this was almost 20 years ago, she alleges. it's cathy heller. she is the ninth trump accuser. but the trump campaign says there is no way her account is true. meanwhile, trump is not backing down from these claims that the election is being rigged. he's also suggesting now that hillary clinton during the second debate used performance-enhancing drugs. >> we should take a drug test because i don't know what's going on with her. >> hillary clinton's campaign may have some new questions to answer regarding her e-mail scandal. wikileaks released more of her campaign hacked e-mails including what appears to be transcripts of three paid speeches to goldman sachs. now, it's important to note here cnn has not independently verified the authenticity of these e-mails but let's bring back kasim reed, mayor of atlanta and clinton supporter and betsy mccaughey, former lieutenant governor of new york and trump supporter. thank you for being with us. i want to get into wikileaks this morning. one particular part of a speech from october 2013 that reads "there was also a need to do something because for political reasons if you were an elected member of congress and people in your constituency were losing jobs and shutting businesses and everybody in the press is saying it's all the fault of wall street you can't sit idly by and do nothing." so is the implication here that something has to be done not because wall street's doing anything wrong but for political gain? mayor reed. >> my sense is that it's not appropriate to really be commenting on these items because we don't know if they've been manufactured by the rulg russians. what i think is americans are more troubled by the fact the russian government is trying to help put don trump in office. and because we haven't seen his tax returns we have no idea what his financial relationships are with russia or with china. what we do know is that the fbi has said that it is highly likely that russians have been involved in this hack. so we really don't know what documents are false or what documents are true. and i think more disturbing is the fact that the russian government is trying to assist don trump to become president of the united states so that he can break long-standing global agreements with countries that make up the nato alliance, the most important alliance that emerged after world war ii. the biggest break we have seen with don trump and his running mate was over russia. i think everybody remembers the debate when the commentator was reflecting on mike pence's comments about being aggressive and engaging russia in an aggressive fashion and don trump said he hadn't talked to him at all and if so he disagreed with him. >> you're right about that. >> and that's disturbing. >> we have had these conversations many times about the authenticity of these. you just heard us say we can't verify it. the clinton campaign is saying that they cannot verify it either. but there's no doubt about it that this speaks directly to the bernie sanders supporters that she's trying to court right now. so the question is is this going to be a big problem for her? >> i'd like to address that. >> you know what, christi -- >> let's let mayor reed finish and then we'll turn to you, lieutenant governor. >> fact of the matter is what's going to be impactful for bernie sanders supporters is what senator sanders says. and senator sanders is standing shoulder to shoulder with secretary clinton and has said in no uncertain terms that this election is too important to america and to the world to allow donald trump to become president of the united states. and i think that the most compelling argument is going to be when senator sanders and secretary clinton are campaigning all over america together. >> all right. lieutenant governor, go ahead. >> yes, i'd like to address that. first of all, although that particular passage suggests, as many others do, mrs. clinton says one thing in private and another thing in public, the far more damning portions of these speeches are where she commits herself to open borders and unlimited immigration. and the reason that that is so damning is that if you look at just the last year jobs held by foreign workers increased 5% in this country whereas jobs held by american-born workers increased only 1%. newcomers to this country, immigrants legal and illegal, are displacing american workers. and that is going to be very important in battleground states like florida, ohio, pennsylvania, and north carolina where people in service jobs and lower-paying jobs are losing those jobs to newcomers to this country and in some cases are being forced to train the people who are taking over their jobs. >> okay. i want to get to one more thing that's in the "times" actually this morning, "the new york times." there is so much to talk about, as you have already talked about this morning, regarding donald trump and the women conversation. the women that are coming out accusing him of sexual assault. the things that he has been caught saying on tape and speeches, frankly. but the "times" has this to say about hillary clinton and how she can or cannot, rather, combat that. "though hillary clinton," it says, "has stood at the center of feminist debates for more than two decades, she has at times been an imperfect messenger for the cause. that has never been more apparent than now as her old missteps and her husband's history have effectively paralyzed her during a moment of widespread outrage." in other words, mayor, it sounds as though they're saying because of her past it's very difficult for her to make a case against donald trump right now when it comes to the treatment of women. you say what? >> christi, i say that that's not what the numbers show. what the numbers in your polling data show is that women are coming to the side of hillary clinton. and what i'm absolutely stunned by is to hear a trump supporter talking about what someone said in private versus public. if we're talking about what someone says in private, the comments that don trump made were absolutely deplorable. and as opposed to going out and simply apologizing and moving on, he has gone out and attacked the women who have come forward. you have an individual that's running for president that's causing people in the united states to change the name of titic tacs to don trump. i'm surprised we're talking about private comments because if we're talking about private comments i don't think that's a healthy conversation for don trump to have. >> lieutenant governor? >> yes, i'd like to respond. as many of these allegations that have come forward, there is just as much evidence proving that they're all politically motivated. >> that's not true. >> let me give you an example. please don't interrupt me, mr. mayor. when gloria allred, a clinton delegate and professional man shamer, trotted out miss anderson -- i have very big sympathies for any woman who has to do this. but she trotted her out like a pony on a rope at a press conference and had her charge donald trump with sexual misconduct many years ago. no one in the media covered the fact that miss allred is in fact a clinton delegate, a bigwig democrat. all of these are the same. when "the new york times" published that totally unsubstantiated charge by mrs. leeds, the elderly woman, no fact checking was done. was she on a plane with donald trump? did they try to get the witness? she said that the man across the aisle from her was horrified by the groping. he has since come forward and said that everything mrs. leeds said is untrue. isn't it a shame that a newspaper would plaster that kind of story on the front page and twist an election, really have an enormous impact on an american election with no prior responsibility to corroborate that story? that is really terrible. it's shameful. >> lieutenant governor -- >> what's shameful is the shaming of women that have come forward -- >> shameful that a distinguished newspaper -- >> -- with their own stories, telling their stories -- >> i'm sorry -- >> that's what donald trump means when he says it's rigged. it's not the electoral system. it's the media that are unfair to him. >> it's only rigged because don trump is losing. it wasn't rigged when he was winning. it wasn't rigged when he was out with his polls. >> unfortunately we've run out of time. i apologize here. but it's been good to have this conversation with both of you. mayor reed and lieutenant governor mccaughey, thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. >> sure. all righty-p clinton versus trump this wednesday. the final presidential debate showdown. live coverage beginning at 4:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. clinton and trump are getting ready for that debate. two of the most vocal supporters are live on cnn today talking debate prep, recent allegations, and the final stretch of the race. you will find out who they are coming up. crisp garden vegetables. no artificial flavors. philadelphia® garden vegetable. rich, creamy... ...and delicious nothing else tastes like philadelphia®. ♪alarm clock beeping] ♪ ♪ ♪ look out honey... the highly advanced audi a4. ♪ ♪ ain't got time to make no apologies... ♪ pure is big, bold, bright and just better. that's why at mccormick pure flavor is our mission. so you can realize the rich taste of pure flavor. after all, the smallest pinch of mccormick can make meals legendary. because pure tastes better. a ninth woman has come forward accusing donald trump of sexual assault, but trump is fighting back calling those allegations false and bogus. >> a new poll shows these allegations really aren't making much of a difference for trump supporters. >> let's bring in jake tapper, host of cnn's "state of the union." jake, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> o'so let's talk about this new "washington post"/abc news poll. trump in this poll is just at the margin of error. he's four points behind hillary clinton. the margin of error is four points. but we've seen other polls that have a larger gap. what do you make of the numbers? sqult "washington post"/abc news poll generally speaking has been one that seems to believe the trump campaign argument that he is going to bring a lot more new voters to the polls than have shown up in previous republican elections and that hillary clinton still has an enthusiasm problem. so it's a more conservative model, a more -- i'm hesitant to use the term. but a more pro-trump model. and that's the model they use. and even with that model it still shows hillary clinton up. but a much tighter race than we've seen in other polls as you point out. really at this point the question is -- obviously it's a cliche in elections to say it all comes down to turnout. but that's one of the reasons why you see differences in the polls. some people are saying that the enthusiasm gap has disappeared. other pollsters suggesting that trump's voters are still more enthusiastic, still more likely to go to the polls and that's one of the reasons why there are these differences. >> when you mention turnout, we should remember that people are turning out now as early voting has begun in many states. jake, i understand you have some big guests today. who do you have? >> well, representing the pro-clinton argument we have the house minority leader, nancy pelosi, from california. she'll talk about hillary clinton and answer some questions about her race. and then representing the trump campaign for an encore third week in a row, unprecedented appearance, former new york city mayor rudy giuliani will be visiting "state of the union." >> all right. looking forward to both. jake tapper, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> and be sure to watch "state of the union" with jake tapper this morning, 9:00 a.m. eastern right here on cnn. donald trump and hillary clinton preparing for their third debate. with so many memorable moments, who could forget the second one? "saturday night live" takes it on. we've got the highlights for you and some new trump tweets this morning. >> hmm. i spent many years as a nuclear missile launch officer. if the president gave the order we had to launch the missiles, that would be it. i prayed that call would never come. [ radio chatter ] self control may be all that keeps these missiles from firing. [ sirens blearing ] i would bomb the [ beep] out of them. i want to be unpredictable. i love war. the thought of donald trump with nuclear weapons scares me to death. it should scare everyone. i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message. . . well the candidates are getting ready for the third presidential debate but "saturday night live" is not ready to let go of the second one. >> the cast of snl have plenty of material. we would all agree. starting with the moment that the candidates took the stage. take a look. [ applause ] >> she looked like she was going to laugh. just for a second. >> hard to hold it. >> cnn media correspondent is with us here. i know a couple of minutes ago donald trump reacted to last night's snl episode. >> yes, snl is influential because it's the highest rated show of the day on saturdays and one person was watching. the man himself donald trump was tuned in. he's reviewing the episode. let's look at one clip from the debate sketch. this is a recreation of the final question of the actual debate last sunday. take a look. >> hello. my question is do you feel that you're models appropriate and positive behavior for today's youth? >> hi, patrice. let me start by walking over to you just as i practiced. right left, right left, right left. now, patrice, you're a teacher. >> no. >> you have kids? >> no. >> you like kids? >> no. >> you've seen kids. >> yeah. okay. great. we're bonding already. patrice i strive to be a positive role model for all children, children like my daughter chelsea and my granddaughter chelsea jr. >> mr. trump, same question. do you feel you're models positive behavior for the youth >> no. next. >> i'm laughing at both of them. donald trump is not. our tv critic in chief weighed in on twitter. he said i watched the snl hit job on me. it's time to retire the boring and unfunny show. the alec baldwin portrayal stinks. media is immedia immediate. the media is rigging election. last year he hosted snl. there's electricity. he had a good time hosting snl and heaped prize on the show's creator. now a year later he's saying snl is part of the problem, part of the conspiracy. >> he don't like it when the sketch pokes fun at him. which we've seen several times before. we know the cast spoofed melania trump. >> i think this actually might have been what frustrated trump the most. if we can queue up this one, this is a video short going pretty aggressively at trump's family. let's watch. >> i stood by your side this whole campaign, your beautiful, did you telliful melania. i can't take it any more. i'm your wife. your daughter. your one black friend. your other daughter. and you're breaking us. taking for granted that we'll always be there. ♪ >> watch out. >> melania is about to walk out. ♪ looking for the back door >> that beyonce spoof cut close to trump suggesting his wife could leave him after the election. it's on youtube and already got a lot of traffic. a lot of people enjoying that video. >> looking forward to next week. brian, thanks so much. of course catch brian on ""reliable sources"" right here on cnn. if you haven't heard about it there's this domestic terror plot stopped in kansas. we'll tell you why investigators say three men loaded trucks full of explosives and who they potentially according to investigators were targeting?

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that's where the sense of a rigged election here. >> reporter: but trump undercutting that very message moments later tweeting that the election is, "absolutely being rigged." at "many polling places." this part of a trump twitter storm against multiple attacks against house speaker paul ryan. ryan pushing back on trump's rigged election theory. the speaker is fully confident the election will be carried out with integrity. hillary clinton's running mate tim kaine calling on more republicans to speak out against trump's allegations. >> he started to make wild claims. kind of scorched earth claims about the election being rigged, et cetera. we have to keep putting out a message and we need to call on everybody to speak out about the fact that we run elections and we run them well here. we ask gop leaders also to stand up for the integrity of the electoral process. >> reporter: trump also continuing to fire back at allegations of sexual assault and unwelcomed sexual advances. now, now accused by nine women. trump attacking their veracity, their character and their looks. >> believe me, she would not be my first choice, that i can tell you. >> reporter: and unleashing one new line of attack on hillary clinton, that she's taking performance enhancing drugs. >> we should take a drug test because i don't know what's going on with her. >> reporter: the clinton campaign calling this a shameful attempt to undermine the election. and, guys, as chris noted, just a couple days away from that debate and donald trump taking a rare day off the campaign trail on sunday to do debate prep. hillary clinton doing the same and doing what her team worked so well for her in the first debate. two days at a hotel just a few minutes away from her home in chappaqua. all eyes will be on las vegas on wednesday. a crucial debate with only 22 days left. guys? >> phil, thanks so much for that. let's talk about all the new developments with national political reporter from "the new york times" alex burns and cnn bureau chief jackie kosinich. a new argument from donald trump that the election is rigged ever since his poll numbers have faltered. back when his poll numbers were high and he was doing well, he said that he would have set the election results. let me remind our viewers and you what he said during the first debate at hofstra about the election. >> want to make america great, again? i'm going to be able to do it. i don't believe hillary will. the answer is if she wins, i will absolutely support her. >> i will absolutely support her if she wins. so now what's happening? >> what a difference a couple weeks make. we saw him throw out the rigged election talk before and the last time was back in august when he was previously down by a massive margin in the polls and he was making the same kind of incendiary warnings that he went into central pennsylvania and said they're going to rig the election. you know where i'm talking about. for a lot of civil rights groups, they hear that and think it is insigcitement for rural a suburban areas to go into philadelphia and hassle people at the polls. they're concerned about this a hispanic civil right group said he's going to contact the justice department to get involved in this preemptively because who knows what could happen on the day of the vote. >> in terms of the substance of what he's saying, we direct people to the brennan center for justice, 2007. to news 21. all of which have vetted the idea of there being rampant fraud at the polls and the conclusion of each and all is it's just not true. what is your take? >> well, right. there's also that study that loyola did where it found maybe 30 instances of voter fraud out of billions. this isn't a thing, but that's not stopping donald trump and mike pence, frankly, from spreading this. yesterday on "meet the press" mike pence was asked whether they would accept the election results. but he said, yes, but almost in the next breath he went back to the fact that this election is being rigged. >> let's play it for people, jackie, so they can get a sense of what trump's running mate indiana governor mike pence. here's how he dealt with it. >> we will absolutely accept the results of the election. look, the american people will speak in an election that will culminate on november the 8th. the american people are tired of the obvious bias in the national media. that's where the sense of a rigged election goes here. one of the great traditions of america is the peaceful transfer of power. >> peaceful transfer of power. that's not what you're helping to motivate when you keep spreading doubt about the legitimacy of the process. >> to alisyn's point earlier, they haven't offered any evidence. people are filling in the blanks themselves. that's why you see people quoted in various states that there might be violence. they're going to make sure that people who don't look like them are vetted or that they're going to watch them. it really is, it's a troubling, troubling rhetoric coming out of the trump campaign and coming from down on the ground. going in to election day and let's not forget people are actually voting right now. so, it's not that there might be some fro some at the polls, but this is already happening. >> let's dive into the facts, okay, because as chris said, there is this organization, this group, news 21. all the top journalism students from universities around the country and they did this exhaustive study to look at one issue for the year. they looked at it over a decade of voter fraud. and they really dove in and here's what they found. you know what's interesting is, yes, there is. there are isolated incidents, alex. everybody has an anecdote of some kind. maybe an urban myth but some anecdote of seeing a bus full of people across a state border and here's what they truly found. let's put it up for people. 106 million total registered voters. out of those, there were 2,068 alleged voter fraud cases. it does happen. >> the allegations have. >> okay. the allegations have. and then ten cases of voter impersonation reported. that's what voter i.d. is supposed to -- >> dead people voting. >> so, ten ases. okay. out of the 146 million people. there's more. they drilled down on arizona, ohio, georgia, texas, that's where attorney generals actually prosecuted cases. they prosecuted 38 cases of voter fraud. 38 out of millions. in arizona there were 13 cases of people prosecuted for double voting. 13. and this is over ten years, by the way. this isn't one year, over ten years. then the national republican lawyer association looked at it themselves and they found 200 allegations of voter fraud, again, over ten years. >> reported by news s outlets. >> from around the country, 50 states and they found 200 cases. so, does it ever happen? okay. occasionally it does happen, but it doesn't happen on a national scale. >> doesn't affect the outcome. >> it would affect the outcome. >> when it happens it's usually not the kind of voter fraud that people imagine when they think of what happens when somebody steals an election. not people in a county courthouse stuffing ballots in a box and me showing up, hi, i'm chris cuomo. i'm here to vote. people voting in a jurisdiction where they're no longer technically registered or they're in a primary where they're not supposed to be voting in a primary. each of those infractions is something authorities ought to be looking at. no indication that there is a systemic problem with voting in this country. i spoke to the ohio secretary of state yesterday who is a republican who says we're trying hard to run a fair election here and this kind of talk just it takes time away from doing our actual and difficult jobs. >> alex, jackie, thank you. in other news, federal authorities are investigating the fire bombing of a republican county headquarters in north carolina. no one was in the building, thank god. but there was some flammable substance thrown through a window. the vandals also spraypainted a message on the building. get out of town or else. there have been no arrests and police have not said anything about any suspects affiliations. but in a tweet, donald trump pounced on it saying, animals representing hillary clinton and dems in north carolina just fire bombed our office in orange county because we are winning. meanwhile, hillary clinton condemned the attack calling it "horrific and unacceptable." very grateful to see everyone is safe. raising thousands to help reopen the gop office. the next debate is just two daze away. what's changed in this race since that lewd video, the audio of trump talking has come out. plus, the growing list of accusers. our political panel will weigh in on what the latest polls tell us, next. prepare for challenges specific to your business by working with trusted advisors who help turn obstacles into opportunities. experience the power of being understood. rsm. audit, tax and consulting for the middle market. what powers the digital world? 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"credit karma. give youself some credit." just 22 days until election day. hillary clinton widening her lead in the latest national polls. our new cnn poll of polls, that is the average of the last four polls shows what you see on your screen. clinton at 47 with trump eight points behind. clinton has gained two points. trump has dropped two since the last poll of polls. let's bring out the state of play here with our panel alex burns, jackie kosinich. poll of polls is just the average. you know, most of them are around four points. it's stable to growing. do we believe that this is the cause of the impact of the tape, somewhat cemented arranged between the two candidates? >> we sure do. i think when you look at each poll that comes out, you can see a varying lead for clinton four points in one and 11 points in another. that's a stark difference. the trends that we've seen all along that trump is stuck in the high 30s, low 40s and clinton is stuck or happily stuck in the mid-40s to high 40s. not over 50%. which would be the point at which we really say, stick a fork in, trump has no path to victory. at this point in the race only one major event left that would help trump break out of that zone that he's been stuck in. that's the final debate on wednesday. >> unless there is a surprise. >> certainly. there could be unaccepted events. but that's the last arena where a candidate based on his own superb performance could change the base. >> if clinton fails the drug test. >> exactly. >> if they get her on the roids and she's somewhat suspended. >> jackie, let's dive into the polls. about whether or not voters believe that women who have come forward to say that trump made these unwanted advances. 68% say, yes, they do. 14% say, no. 19% say they have no opinion. but it, you know, when we've heard from republicans who have been interviewed about this, voters for trump supporters, they sort of say, i'm still voting for him. >> well, right. and one of the striking things in these polls is that it showed that the tapes really didn't make much of a difference. the allegations of these women coming forward seem to have and people believe them, but on the other hand, it's not the tape that seems to change our mind. one of the polls, forgive me, is about 53% said it didn't make any deiferanifference. much less said it did change their opinion. >> this makes more sense. you get no and no opinion together. you get 67%. that seems closer to what could be the truth to me because if you go to trump supporters, i haven't met one, my sample is only like 15, 20 people. but none of them moved off of him and 88% was reported this morning on the news that 88% are locked in to their choice, jackie. they're not going anywhere no matter what happens, i guess. >> we're at the point in election, let's not forget, this always ends up a fight over a sliver of voters. that seems to be the point where we see them ticking back and forth between the two of them. and, absolutely right. the debate is really the only expected thing that we know in between now and election day. i mean, who knows this race has been so crazy that he could sort of use to get those numbers turned around and get those people who maybe aren't so sure what happened with the women and this tape back to his side. >> yeah, let's look at the all-important women's vote because we have that from nbc/"wall street journal." 35% say they support donald trump. what does that mean on election day? >> well, it's very, very hard or maybe impossible for a candidate who loses women by that kind of margin to somehow make it up with men. we've never seen somebody in a presidential election overcome a deficit of that size. and, alisyn, i think when you go through the fundamentals of the poll, what you really see is think back four years to 2012 coming out of that election. the message that republicans felt they took is we need to do better with women. we need to do better with hispanic voters, black voters, young voters. you go down those categories and in almost every single one they're underperforming romney in 2012. the one exception is young voters and that's really a function of clinton losing support to third-party candidates and not to daunld tru trump. >> we have a couple indicators on that, as well. a dip in honesty, a dip in -- the excitement was over 90% and now 79%. his honesty number took a hit, as well. jackie, these personal indicators are probably more relevant for trump because the choice seems so personal for people. >> absolutely. you've seen clinton's enthusiasm pick up. and, you know, we talk a lot about the ground game and voter enthusiasm and at the end of the day, on election day, that's whatmatter to get out and vote. people are feeling discouraged as well as the allegations as a result of some of his debate performances, that's going to aifect him. i am going to say it, again, people are already voting right now. every day matters in this race. increasingly. >> so, let's talk about debate prep, alex. both candidates yesterday spent a chunk of time preparing. it's going to revert back to the format of the first debate. the lester holt debate where they're standing at the podiums. what do we think they're doing differently or how are they preparing? >> if you're hillary clinton you don't do anything particularly differently. her folks did very well the first two debates. if anything you're preparing for the difficult portion of the debate about trump's personal conduct and his conduct towards women. but that's a tough thing. >> does she go after him harder on this than she did in the second debate where people felt like she was hands off. >> there is more information than there was at the second debate. at the time of the second debate we heard the "access hollywood" tape and not the sexual advances from nine women. if you're hillary clinton, you know, that's something you have to be comfortable talking about. i do think it's probably a safe bet that the moderator brings it up and the burden is on donald trump to explain himself in a convincing way. >> alex, jackie, thank you very mu much. appreciate it. wikileaks has a new batch of offerings, stolen from different private servers of accounts. we will take you through them. what they say and how they're being used. often a great disparity. meanwhile, the battle for mosul begins. iraqi forces backed by u.s. coalition troops to wipe out the stronghold. we are live for you on the frontlines, next. sureor put themhave ston a rack.e tires. but the specialists at ford like to show off their strengths: 13 name brands. all backed by our low price tire guarantee. yeah, we're strong when it comes to tires. right now during the big tire event, get a $140 rebate by mail on four select tires. ♪ ♪ prepare for challenges specific to your business by working with trusted advisors who help turn obstacles into opportunities. experience the power of being understood. rsm. audit, tax and consulting for the middle market. retake the last isis stronghold in iraq is now under way. iraqi forces and the u.s.-led coalition being called a defining moment months in the planning to retake this strategic city of mosul. cnn senior international correspondent nick panick paton walsh. >> just meters away from the main road and it leads right down to that city where the u.n. fear 1.2, 1.5 million people could be caught as this assault gets under way. desperately in need of assistance. a long morning so far. they began at dawn and spreading out amongst the desert and eventually moving down to this road here. when we got here, though, two staggering scenes emerged. but, in fact, a firefight broke out between the kurds and isis pockets that are seen around this town. another very bizarre moment occurred 30 minutes earlier on the hill behind us here. it appears an isis fighter popped up from somewhere and chased and then as far as we can tell prom this distance, blew himself up and then they continue to search foxholes here. this is potentially a lengthy assault. they hoped moving along the plains would have been easier and that optimism may be misplaced. a lot of coalition air power in the sky and a lot of isis suicide bombers. and while the pentagon says there are no troops on the ground here, i've seen this morning a lot of foreign presence within the convoy. certainly an assistance given as they remove, this is a volatile place in iraq. when they were kicked out of mosul the prize of their caliphate here that is really the end of them in iraq. we are beginning that lengthy, bloody process, chris? >> their concern is at what price victory when it comes to the humanitarian situation, you reported over a million people may be locked in or trapped here. are there any situations being set up in advance to help those people? is there any aid at the same time as the military action? >> yeah. there are counts all around the city that hopefully will find going into them. the route out is unknown. you can see the vast potential corridors and given the brutality of this fight and the nasty sectarian of the war here and the major concern is which particular militia end up doing the fight here if it doesn't end up being the iraqi army and paramilitaries as the u.s. and iraq had hoped would be the case. a million lives in the balance here, chris. >> nick paton walsh, thank you for all of that reporting. we couldn't get it without you there. please stay safe. this mosul offensive is being called a decisive moment in the fight against isis. why is mosul so important? our military experts are here to explain, next. upgrade your phone system and learn how you could save at vonage.com/business "just wanna see if my scorein?" changed..you wanna check yours?" 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"check out credit karma today. credit karma. give yourself some credit." at this hour tens of thousands of iraqi troops are retaking the city from isis. the u.s.-led coalition is working closely to support this effort. let's bring in former army commanding general lieutenant general mark hurtman. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. >> you, yourself, have conducted multiple patrols in that city. tell us why mosul is so important today. >> yes, indeed. it is part of my area of operations when i was a commander of multi-national and a critically important area and city, alisyn. first of all, an unbelievable history. it is where abraham was born. a population of 1.2 million. it is considered somewhat the unofficial capital of the north. you know, baghdad is truly the capital of iraq, but mosul is considered the province, but most people see it as really the central point of northern iraq because it has roads and access to turkey and the trade, both oil going out and food going in and all other kinds of supplies that iraq needs. but it also connects the eastern part with the kurds and the western part with syria. so it really is a centerpiece of strength in iraq. and more importantly, isis wants it. this is their caliphate capital as they proclaimed in iraq. and it's critically important to get rid of the isis fighters from this very important city. >> general, i don't know if you have a monitor in your studio where you can see this. but i want to show our viewers what has happened there in and around the area in iraq in the past year. this was january of 2015 on your screen and the red that you see there is the isis-controlled area. you see mosul and you see that all the way to tikrit and baghdad and ramadi. and you look at this month, october, 2016, the progress made in terms of territory. now, those two red splotches around the mosul and just above tikrit are no longer connected. there has been a break in terms of isis control. are you saying, general, if it is successful today and in the weeks that follow that red around mosul will be gone? >> well, i'm not sure completely gone. it will take a while, alisyn. this will be a tough fight. the early indications are most of the iraqi insurgents inside the town, i'm not talking isis fighters those contrary to isis. doing a good job in terms of getting intelligence out to the security forces and the air campaign that is contributing to this. the iraqi people want isis out of this town. that's what is important. but, yes, those splotches will eventually go away. unlike u unlike others, i'm not so sure. we have a little way to go on this. i carry some battle scars by saying it was the end of al qaeda or sadr when those rose up. there is a lot of fighting left to do as we saw with car bombs exploding in baghdad. isis will still be present and it will take a generation to get rid of these ideidealogs. michael is peshmerga prepared for what the situation is there? >> i think they're prepared for military capability, what they're not prepared for is the influx of hundreds of thousands of refugees. reporting done by this and the daily beast just ran a piece, an aide official saying if the worse-case scenario happens and you're talking about half a million people flooding into the kurdistan regional government this is the worst humanitarian crisis since rwanda. that is the real crisis here. the real struggle is not to route from mosul, although that is a certed campaign. the real struggle is for the day after scenario. a consortium of factions vying for control of this territory. shia militias backed by iran and turkish fighters and sunni tribesmen and the turks which are training up their own in a military camp that the iraqi government says they have no business being in and then a rival kurdish group or the workers' party. the chances that everyone is going to get along nicely once the terrorists are gone is slim to none. this poses the real challenge, right? the reason that isis was allowed to return to iraq with that lightning into mosul there was a breakdown and the rise. now the current prime minister is a vast improvement on his predecessor but internal challenges, including what happened is happening in the shia political spectrum? there are shia nationals particularly in the form of al sadr who want to go to war. the coherence and the integrity of the iraqi state. this is, to me, the bigger issue. >> michael, we can count on you for giving us the larger context and letting us know how complicated this all will be. thank you very much for being here with us this morning. we will cover the story throughout the day. chris? >> this is going to be a bloody battle. so did you watch the game last night? the dodgers clayton kershaw showing his cy young stuff. shutting down the cubs, but was it enough to get his team even in the nlcs? we have the details in the bleacher report, next. mornin'. hey, do you know when the game starts? 11 hours. oh. well, i'm heading back to my room. 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>> first of all, it's fair to say the campaign because he is splaying to the crowd in these speeches. >> that means? >> she's saying that dodd frank, that's something she had to support politically, vaguely apologizing in the wake of the great recession. that would have been political poison in a primary. but no smoking gun here. >> what about this. now, everybody can't help th themselves. she seemed to be apologetic at the banks for regulating them. is that the right gesture you want. when people do things for the system for their own gain all the time and never get prosecuted? >> no, that is the problem. she is playing to the paying crowd in these speeches. >> now, you can see those for yourself. they're online. we don't know if any of the language has been changed or anything like that, because it would have to be verified by the people that wrote them. all right, juanita broderick. >> struggling to get the media to pay attention to her for many, many years. last night i decided we would y media and the clintons. >> what he's calling hypocrisy, they're going after my accusers, but not dealing with their own. juanitsi tr juanita said something happened in 1998 and ken starr looked at her and decided not to use her in the impeachment of bill clinton. what do you see in the e-mails? >> the clinton campaign was concerned. they knew these problems would come back and basically exchanged legal documents, clinton's lawyer exchanges legal documents giving the background on broderick. this is the legal record to begin preparing a defense for what they knew was coming. >> you didn't see it as a smear. okay, the media. >> they show how the media collaborates and conspires directly with the clinton campaign. >> all right. good. short and sweet. the first thing, john, we only have one side of the e-mails here. if we had the trump side, reporters work with him all the time. maggie haverman is here, we had a very good relationship with her over the years and killing it in this election. we had her tee up stories for us before and have never been disappointed. nobody is more wire under to the trump campaign than she is. >> maggie haberman. these e-mails are showing one side of the conversation. but relationship between political reporters and politicians are as old. the reporters reaching out and campaigns working with reporters. but that's true on both sides of the aisle. important to know. >> did you see anything in here? how about the harwood. the cnbc guy. >> i think where you can cross the line is when it appears that people are working with reporters are working with campaigns too closely or there is a degree of a little bit too much sucking up and trying to get an interview. that looks bad optically, but it doesn't really cross an ethical line unless you see collusion and none of these e-mails show that. >> i can't tell you how many times i had discussions with trump's people why did he argue this, instead of this. now, is that me giving him advice? no, actually asking questions. just trying to get inside the mind of the campaign. we want to understand their motivation so we can pass it to you. the last one. this is the trickiest read if you watch it on wiki. under an alias was e-mailing with hillary clinton and this is a reason why obama, the president of the united states, somehow stopped the doj from prosecuting the e-mails because he was on the threads. >> right. so, this is where you really need the reality check especially. first of all, we don't have the e-mails. we do know there were apparently eight e-mail exchanges between the president and hillary clinton that were caught up in the benghazi inquiest. those were private due to presidential privilege, but released eventually. the conspiracy theory you just said is that the president basically squelched the investigation for his own purposes. moreover that is the way the presidents generally operate when there are special investigations. so, this is, this stuff can become sort of fodder for fever dreams, but this is not anything that we can see from these e-mails that shows any degree of collusion yet alone getting involved in an investigation from the oval office. >> john avalon, thank you very much. we'll be reporting on what wikileaks puts out but try to make sense if it is being used accurately and is helpful to you. so, tweet us, post your comment on facebook.com/newday. there is a lot of news. the election has taken yet another turn. let's get to it. >> donald trump has kind of started to go wilder and wilder. >> we should take a drug test because i don't know what's going on with her. >> this election is incredibly painful. >> it's a rigged system. >> we will absolutely accept the results of the election. >> it isn't easy running against someone who is so negative, dark and dangerous. >> this is the last chapter of isis in iraq. >> battle for mosul begins. >> 1.5 million people at risk. >> this is a battle that promises to be very, very difficult. this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. a big day, a scary day. an assault of mosul iraqi forces aided by the u.s. and others being called decisive moment and definitely decisive for the million plus people trapped there. >> we have our reporters on the front lines. we'll bring them to you momentarily. welcome to your "new day." now donald trump is intensifying his charnel that the election is rigged. blaming democrats and a corrupt media are conspiring against him. trump's running mate, once again, playing cleanup. saying they will "absolutely accept the election result." >> what result is this having on the polls? the cnn poll of polls the compilation of all of them together shows hillary clinton widening her lead over trump to eight points. 47% for hillary clinton and 39% for donald trump. so much is at stake. only two days until the final debate. 22 days until election day. so, let's begin our coverage with cnn's phil mattingly. phil, give us the latest. >> no shortage of issues that donald trump has pushed throughout his campaign as rigged. whether it's the media or the political establishment. the iowa caucuses. but this pushing the electoral results as rigged in its entirety is a new and very dark term. one that is unsettling, even some of his republican supporters. >> remember this. it's a rigged election. >> reporter: for donald trump there is only one reason he's trailing in the polls. a conspiracy to keep him out of the white house. >> the election is being rigged by corrupt media pushing completely false allegations and outright lies in an effort to elect her president. >> reporter: in rally after rally, tweet

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these final weeks of the election. good sunday morning to you. it's 6:00 a.m. bright and early. i'm rhys ti paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. good to be with you. and this morning a new "washington post"/nbc news poll has hillary clinton up four points over donald trump. but let me say here that the margin of error is four points. so essentially tied. now, this is coming as another woman says donald trump kissed her without consent nearly 20 years ago. her name is kathy heller. she's the ninth trump accuser. but the trump campaign says there is no way her account is true. >> in the meantime donald trump is not backing down from his claims the election is being rigged, as you heard there. he's also now suggesting hillary clinton's using some sort of drugs. take a listen. >> we should take a drug test prior -- because i don't know what's going on with her. but at the beginning of her last debate she was all pumped up at the beginning and at the end it was like, oh, take me down. she could barely reach her car. anyway, i'm willing to do it. >> in the meantime, hillary clinton still haunted this morning by wikileaks after more hacked e-mails are released, including what appears to be transcripts of three paid speeches to goldman sachs. cnn has not independently verified the authenticity of those e-mails. both candidates getting ready for the next showdown, preparing for the final presidential debate, three days away now on wednesday. cnn's phil mattingly is following that story for us and more. phil? >> reporter: hey, victor and christi. for donald trump there's no question about it. his campaign at this point, is donald trump trying to play defense more or less, but in a very trumpian-type fashion, and that means going on offense, believe it or not, even though as many as nine women have now made allegations of sexual misconduct related to donald trump. donald trump is not pulling back. he's not trying to put it behind him. he's not even focused on some of the issues that his advisers have told him are necessary to win swing states like ohio or colorado or virginia. he is attacking. attacking the women, attacking their stories, even attacking their appearances. take a listen. >> we're going to stop it. we're not going to back down. and remember this, it's a rigged election because you have phony people coming up with phony allegations, with no witnesses whatsoever, ending up from 20 years ago, 30 years ago. how about this crazy woman on the airplane? okay? i mean, can anybody believe that one? how about this? after 15 minutes -- we don't know each other. after 15 minutes she said, well, that was too much. 15 minutes? with the ladies in this place it would be one second and it would be smack. >> reporter: and guys, it's worth noting that donald trump isn't just focused on the women who have made these allegations, he's also really focused rally after rally on the last couple days on something else. this idea that the election, that the vote on november 8th will be rigged. now, the idea of rigged is something that donald trump as we all know has talked about pretty repeatedly over the course of his 16-month campaign. but he has really come into focus on this idea that the electoral process itself is rigged against him, that the combination of the media, hillary clinton, even the republican party leaders who have gone against him over the course of the last couple weekends, it's all part of a grand conspiracy to ensure that he doesn't win on november 8th. now, it's worth noting tlds no evidence that the electoral process is rigged against anybody right now. but it is also worth noting that when you talk to donald trump supporters, we talked to a number of them here in maine, they believe everything he's saying. and i can tell you that that is an unsettling prospect not just for hillary clinton's campaign or for democrats but also for republicans. paul ryan's spokesperson putting out a statement saying that he has every faith and confidence that the election will go according to plan and more or less, to paraphrase, is not rigged. but that is not what donald trump has been pushing. it's something raising a lot of questions and concerns. three weeks left in the campaign, donald trump has clearly settled on this issue as one he wants to push going forward. it's something to keep a very close eye on, guys, as we all watch what happens over the course of these days and weeks. victor and christi? >> thank you so much. we want to bring in cnn politics reporter eugene scott. eugene, good to see you this morning. so donald trump constantly saying that this election is rigged as he's talking about. paul ryan says it is fair. i want to put up his exact verbiage here. "our democracy relies on confidence in election results. and the speaker is fully confident the states will carry out this election with integrity." here's the question. do you get a sense that donald trump is trying to initially say listen, it's rigged because if, for instance, in the end it doesn't go in his favor he is -- he's paving the way for that, for that excuse to be the reason? >> absolutely. i think donald trump in using the language of it being rigged, it's not just attacking his rival and the democratic party but also the republican party as well. and so when he uses that type of language he's mustering up frustration from his supporters to be lodged at paul ryan and all those other lawmakers who have backed away from trump and hoping that they can somehow move forward with taking the momentum that they've built into an area that leads to some type of changes in the process. >> let's talk about this "washington post"/abc poll, the newest. since the tape came out last week of donald trump on the bus with "access hollywood." overall, clinton has a four-point lead, it shows, but let's be honest. as victor said earlier, there's a four-point margin of error here. so they are essentially tied. is that going to surprise some people as we sit in the aftermath of everything that has happened since that "access hollywood" tape was shown last week? >> i don't think it surprises that many people who are very aware of the amount of people who are never clinton. i think a lot of people at trump's support -- at his rallies, his supporters, his base, are under the belief that these are just allegations, they have not been proven to be true. and they still support many of the ideas that he proposes or at least believe that they are better than those that hillary clinton has proposed. it'll be interesting to see what happens at this debate, if we will be able to go back to the issues and talk about the topics that matter most to americans or if much of the time will be spent on these personal accusations. >> and it seems that hot mike reporting on the bus didn't have a lot of effect on his support. 84% of republicans and 60% of independents say it's not even going to make a difference to them and how they vote. is that because of the anti-clinton sentiment that's out there? >> it's because of that as well as the fact that there are many people who really do believe that donald trump will make america great again "uss a better candidate than hillary clinton. i think a demographic to pay closer attention to is women voters. how have they moved? the republican party really does need to make some improvements, some strides in the amount of women backing donald trump. and based off the most recent magic wraul i've seen with john king there has been a shift amongst some women voters, even republican women, since that recording. >> there's an article in the "times" this morning talking about hillary clinton and says "though hillary clinton has stood at the center of feminist debates for more than two decades, she has at times been an imperfect messenger for the cause. that has never been more apparent than now as her old missteps and her husband's history have effectively paralyzed her during a moment of widespread outrage." in other words, they're saying she does not have the credence or the clout to counter some of what donald trump is saying and to attack him when it comes to how he views women. what do you say to that? >> well, that's absolutely true. to people who don't support her, her track record of handling these situations is questionable. but even more important than that, the women vote is a very diverse voting bloc. it's nowhere near as monolithic as people talk about. so the reality is different women see different issues differently, and therefore respond and vote accordingly. not every woman would look at how donald trump and how he has responded to the situation and find it problematic. and that's what we're seeing the polls suggest. >> and this poll in the "washington post" too shows 68%, rather, 68% of women polled do think that donald trump made unwanted sexual advances. but again, it does not seem to be taking a hit in his overall numbers. we appreciate it so much, eugene scott. thanks for being with us. >> thanks, christi. >> let's remember, this poll was taken between the 10th and the 13th, after the release of the video but before we started to see this pileup of accusers. and now there's more potential fallout for donald trump. another woman has come forward. she is the ninth accuser. but the question is are these allegations going to hurt him at the polls? we'll dig deeper into these numbers in just a moment. and wikileaks releasing new hacked e-mails apparently from the clinton campaign. this time talking about her wall street speeches. with toothpaste or plain water. and even though their dentures look clean, in reality they're not. if a denture were to be put under a microscope, we can 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claiming that donald trump kissed her without consent in the middle of a mar-a-lago brunch in the late 1990s. cathy heller first shared her story with the "guardian" newspaper. and cnn is working to further corroborate her story. but i did speak with cathy heller on the phone as well as her friend susan klein, who she shared her story with a year and a half ago, when donald trump was rising in political prominence. now, heller tells me she was at mar-a-lago on mother's day with her extended family since her in-laws were members of that private club. heller says when she was introduced to trump he allegedly pulled her toward him and then kissed her. heller says she was startled and pulled back. she tells me her husband saw it happen as did other members of her family and they just considered it a family joke. but she says once that "access hollywood" tape came out it became a real issue in this presidential campaign. she realized it was no longer a laughing matter. and cathy heller says she became compelled to speak out along with those eight other women. now, the trump campaign vigorously denying all of these allegations. the trump team issuing the latest statement about cathy heller's claims, saying this, saying "the media has gone too far in making this false accusation. there is no way something like this would have happened in a public place on mother's day at mr. trump's resort. it would have been the talk of palm beach for the past two decades. the reality is this. for the media to wheel out a politically motivated democratic activist with a legal dispute against the same resort owned by mr. trump does a disservice to the public, and anyone covering this story should be embarrassed for elevating this bogus claim." now, i did talk to cathy heller. she admits that she is a hillary supporter and she also says that she did have a legal dispute with mar-a-lago. but still, she became compelled to speak out. victor and christi in. >> jessica, thank you so much. now, with only a few weeks until election day a new "washington post"/abc news poll shows trump is just four points behind hillary clinton, virtually nothing. or at least very little has changed. most voters say the leaked video of trump bragging about groping women does not affect their vote. here are the numbers. clinton ahead of trump 47 to 43 among likely voters. compare that to the same poll conducted in july, when clinton was up eight points. let's discuss now with scott folden, former chairman of the washington, d.c. democratic party, hillary clinton supporter. also stacy washington, a republican talk show host and donald trump supporter. good morning to both of you. >> good morning, victor. >> so let me start here. we talked about the poll in late july from abc news and the "washington post." let's go to the one right before the convention. this morning the numbers are 47-43 clinton. before the conventions began 47-43 clinton. the same in this poll. now, we know that fox has clinton up seven. nbc news and the "wall street journal" have her up nine. so we'll find out if this is a trend or an outlier. let's put up on the screen what's happened since july. there have been so many events. they've got two conventions, two debates. we have the wikileaks that targeted the dnc and targeted hillary clinton. the video of clinton stumbling into that van. we have the allegation that's have come out, the "access hollywood," and still the numbers are the same. let me find you from you, scott, first. for all the people saying this is hofer, this is evidence it's just as tight as it has ever been. >> well, we've always said, the clinton campaign has always said that the polls are going to fluctuate. so whether it's over or not, i think when we talk about it being over, the political pundits, we're looking at the real polls in the battleground states and the polling about women supporters. trum can't win without women suburban educated voters and he's not winning that. she's up by 20 points. he's battling her in ohio. but in the other battleground states she's well ahead by either five to ten points on average. they're fighting it out in florida. but the other key piece on the polling is that she's up and making him work and defend and fight in red states now on a competitive basis like georgia. so we know the national polls are going to fluctuate but it's all about the road to 270 and he can't get there. >> yeah, stacy, we have here at cnn reported extensively about how that path is narrowing when you go through florida, pennsylvania, through ohio, north carolina as well. what do you think this sends, the message it sends potentially to speaker paul ryan, who saw some backlash maybe he didn't expect a couple of days ago and many of those members of congress who've walked away and we've seen some return to the trump campaign. >> yeah. i think it's so interesting that you brought up paul ryan in light of the fact that he himself was primaried by a very interesting person paul nailon and it didn't go anymore but it was a statement from his own voters in his own state of how dissatisfied they were with his performance on behalf of washington. and now we have him basically turning tail and running at the first sign of trouble with donald trump. it's been an interesting campaign season, and i think after the presidential election is when paul ryan is going to really meet up with the reality of his actions during this campaign. i honestly can't believe he would take this time out to talk about his feelings on an issue that hasn't been substantiated instead of supporting the nominee, which is what we did when he was running with mitt romney. >> so i know that there are some people who are watching and take issue with your characterization that this is the first sign of trouble with donald trump considering some of the statements he made during the primary. but let me get to paul ryan because do we have the sound of donald trump talking about the rigged election? do we have that ready? let's listen to it. >> the election is being rigged by corrupt media pushing false allegations and outright lies in an effort to elect hillary clinton president. but we are going to stop it. we are not going to back down. >> now, we have this statement out from a spokeswoman for paul ryan's office. "our democracy relies on confidence in election results and the speaker is fully confident the states will carry out this election with integrity. i know you, stacy, have some issues with the speaker. but this is what you'd expect someone in his position to do because there is no evidence that this election is rigged. right? >> actually, we have the video that just came out last week with the democratic leader in new york city of the election commission admitting on a live camera, a hidden camera, that voters are bused around certain precincts to vote multiple times and that he even is concerned about the integrity of his vote being diluted by people who are voting multiple times. you have the college student -- >> so you believe the election is rigged? >> no, i don't believe it's rigged. but i think there's a concern about election fraud. and i don't think it's being covered adequately in the media. >> all right. scott, you say to that what? >> i say to that that the idea the system is rigged is ridiculous because the states run the voting process in every state and you would have a vast right-wing -- right-wing or left-wing conspiracy in order to say it's a massive rigging. and so that's really ridiculous. with speaker ryan i don't think he has much choice because donald trump is threatening to undermine the integrity of the whole election process that is the core piece of law and order and how we have transitioned to power in this country. so he's got to come out and say that because it's true. we know every report and every document or research that's done on voter fraud that it's minimal state to state. that these whole ideas of voter fraud have really escalated to unreasonable levels. so that's my response. the bottom line is this. every vote counts. we've got systems to defend against the russians trying to hack into those voter systems. we haven't been able to fight them with the wikileaks piece. and donald trump ought to be denouncing that as well as supporting the integrity of the voting process. this is still america and he's being very un-american when he says -- >> that's absolutely an unfounded statement. he's not being un-american. there's nothing un-american talking about voter fraud and things -- >> he's not. he's talking -- >> there's a difference between talking about specific cases of voter fraud and we know that that is on a very small scale, and saying that there is a grand conspiracy that this system and this election is already rigged. but we've got more time to talk about that. we do want to include a lighter moment. try to give some balance here. if you weren't up and because you're watching television at this hour maybe you didn't see it. "snl" last night, their take on the second presidential debate. let's watch. >> good evening. my question is for hillary. tonight donald trump said you should be in jail. he said you have hate in your heart. and he followed you around the stage like a shark. so my question is what do you like about him? [ laughter ] >> well, this one's actually easy. donald trump and i disagree on almost everything. but i do like how generous he is. just last friday he handed me this election. [ laughter ] >> scott, thoughts? >> well, i think most voters, democratic voters believe he has done that with these nine allegations. i think "snl's" hilarious. i'd like to be in the audience on some of this before we vote on november 8th. i think him doubling down on the women and attacking their appearance, we know sexual groping and assault is about power, not appearance. and i think the more he talks about it, the more he's going to drive a wedge between women voters where he's behind by about 20% already. so i think it's a problem for him to continue to talk about this. >> stacy, last word goes to you. >> you know what? the polls show that it's not a problem. the polls show that people are more concerned about jobs and the economy and whether or not hillary clinton has ceded control of her offices in the past to foreign entities like george soros surrogates. sought the wikileaks are an issue. we should talk about that a little bit more. and we should ask hillary clinton if she believes all victims, meaning juanita broaddrick and some of the others who have accused her husband of rape or is donald trump innocent until proven guilty? which of those are the concepts that are most american? >> were are -- >> we've got to wran wrap it there. but those two concepts are not mutually exclusive for either of the men we're talking about. scott bolden and stacy washington, we'll have you back and we're talking wikileaks in the next half hour. clinton versus trump. you've got to watch wednesday. the final presidential debate. it's right here on cnn. live coverage starts at 4:00. and another story we are following closely this morning. at any moment the battle for mosul, iraq will begin. why iraq's largest city is a crucial target in this war on isis. the right things working together can give you an advantage. like trubiotics with immune support advantage. its unique formula supports immune health in two ways. with probiotics that work in your gut. and antioxidants that work throughout your body. trubiotics from one a day. ♪ sing girl, come on. ♪[ singing ]♪ sorry, ariana you gotta go. seriously? verizon limits me and i gotta get home. you're gonna choose navigation over me? maps get up here. umm... that way. girl! you better get on t-mobile! why pay more for data limits? introducing t-mobile one, unlimited data for everyone. get four lines just $35 a month. mornin'. hey, do you know when the game starts? 11 hours. oh. well, i'm heading back to my room. 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(announcer) enter courtyard's super bowl sleepover contest at courtyard.com for your chance to win. well, now the invasion is imminent. at any moment now iraqi forces will start moving into the country's second largest city, mosul. >> yeah, mosul's been held by isis forces for more than two years now. and the iraqi air force today, well, actually has been dropping leaflets, we should point out, warning civilians of the coming fight. some isis fighters, we know, are already on the run. cnn's senior international correspondent ben wedeman has covered this extensively. he's joining us live from iraq. ben, is there any indication that iraqi fighters have a good gauge of how many isis fighters or militants may still be holed up in mosul and ready to fight them in. >> reporter: it's not clear at this point, christi, but what we understand from diplomats in baghdad is they think there's somewhere between 3,000 and 4,500 isis fighters in mosul. what we do know from speaking to people inside mosul is it appears many of the isis fighters, especially the foreigners, are being moved. moved perhaps to syria for a final last stand. we understand there are some foreign fighters left. we're told basically pakistanis and chechens. but certainly it does appear that mosul is bracing for this imminent offensive which will involve tens of thousands of members of the iraqi armed forces, paramilitary groups, as well as kurdish fighters, and there are somewhere around 5,000 u.s. military personnel also on the ground and will be providing support. in addition to the u.s.-led coalition which has been striking isis targets in and around mosul steadily now for quite some time. the situation in the city, however, is tense. we understand that isis has closed shut many of its offices in anticipation of this battle. they've also, for instance, released prisoners, people who are being held for such offenses as smoking cigarettes, shaving their beards, and wearing the wrong kind of clothing. these people have been forced to go out and dig a network of trenches and tunnels for the defense of the city. but many of the residents of mosul, which we don't know the precise number, somewhere between 700,000 to a million, apparently are waiting desperately to be freed from the control of isis. isis has been in control of mosul since june of 2014. christi, victor? >> it's hard to overestimate the symbolic and strategic value of retaking that city after so long, especially as it relates to isis there in iraq. ben wedeman, thanks so much. >> thank you, ben. well, wikileaks seems to be living up to its promise to hack the clinton campaign. more hacked e-mails have been released including what appears to be transcripts of three paid speeches to goldman sachs. , the search for relief often leads... here... here... or here. today, there's a new option. introducing drug-free aleve direct therapy. a tens device with high intensity power that uses technology once only available in doctors' offices. its wireless remote lets you control the intensity. and helps you get back to things like... this... this... or this. and back to being yourself. introducing new aleve direct therapy. find yours in the pain relief aisle. will mortgage rates tick up this week? 3, 2, 1 [whispered 'rocket'] [ala♪m beeping] ♪ ♪ the highly advanced audi a4. ♪ welcome back. so glad to have you with us. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. always good to be with you. >> well, let's talk about this new poll this morning showing hillary clinton and donald trump statistically in a tie right now. the brand new "washington post"/abc news poll does have clinton ahead of trump by just four points, but that is within the margin of error. >> the poll is released as another woman now comes forward to say that donald trump kissed her without consent. this was nearly 20 years ago. the woman's name, cathy heller. she is the ninth trump accuser. but the trump campaign says there is no way her account is true. meanwhile, trump is not backing down from his claims that this election is rigged. he's also now suggesting that hillary clinton is on drugs. >> we should take a drug test prior -- because i don't know what's going on with her. >> in the meantime, hillary clinton's campaign may have some new questions to answer about her e-mail scandal. wicky leaks released more of her campaign's e-mails including what appears to be a transcript of three speeches to goldman sachs. it's important to note cnn has not independently verified the authenticity of these e-mails. but let's talk to a. scott bolden former chairman of the wash v washington, d.c. democratic party and clinton supporter and stacy washington a republican talk show host and donald trump supporter. thank you both for sticking around. we appreciate it. >> good morning, christi. >> good morning to you. >> good morning. >> i want to get to one of these elements that was released by wikileaks. in october 2013 there was an implication that action was necessary to curb wall street abuses for, quote, political reasons. i want to read to you what part of this shows. in one of her speeches hillary clinton allegedly said, "there was also a need to do something because for political reasons if you were an elected member of congress and people in your constituency were losing jobs and shutting businesses and everybody in the press is saying it's all the fault of wall street you can't sit idly by and do nothing." so scott, is the implication here that wall street wasn't necessarily doing anything wrong but for political reasons you needed to make some changes? >> only the republicans would say that. let's be real clear. i condemn and all of us including donald trump and his supporters ought to condemn these wikileaks that we have tied -- the government has tied to russia. so we can't confirm it in any event. but let me be real clear. for political reasons in congress and in this country, absolutely. constituents are hurting. they vote for their elected representatives. and something had to be done. the other part is the art of it. substantive housing crisis and people like donald trump betting on the housing crisis in order to generate more money and to create new products on wall street that harm the middle class and the working class and home ownership. absolutely. that's part of the political process. but that's also an important economic deal that needed to be fixed. and it certainly was. >> stacy, what's your reaction? >> it's an admission that she has two policy positions, one when she's with her friends on wall street, who are huge donors to her campaign, and she's been paid millions of dollars in fees to come and speak to them privately. she didn't want this stuff released. she was asked for the transcripts of these speeches. she didn't let them out. now we have wikileaks coming out with these. the idea that somehow trump is connected to it is a deflection. hillary clinton should come out and talk about the substance of these speeches and she should apologize. if you have two positions, one in private and one in public, it means you're a liar. it's duplicity. and i think she should address it on television. >> but christi, there's nothing lying going on between hillary clinton and her speeches. in fact, a cnn report i just read said by and large her public position is consistent with what she said to wall street. the danger is these leaks give you but one focus or one angle on many things that she said publicly versus privately and they by and large are the same. and by the way, why hasn't wikileaks hacked into donald trump's campaign and released those? because wikileaks wants him to win and we know, we've leaked wikileaks to the russian hackers and putin. now, that is a problem, and that's something that donald trump and his supporters ought to condemn much like many democrats have. we're not going to confirm it. but the good thing is when you look into the clinton deliberation process it is completely consistent with her public process and what her private positions have gun. they're one and the same. and you can't deny that. >> stacy? >> it's consistent because she's lied to the american public before about her e-mails -- >> oh, my goodness. >> -- while she was secretary of state. >> and she's apologized about that. it's a dead horse. >> you can talk all you want while i'm talking but it's actually rude to do that. you don't respect me and you don't think i deserve time here on cnn to express my opinions. >> that's certainly not the case. i was just correcting you. >> look, the point isn't that you can correct me here. the point is that now that the sunlight has been shined on what hillary clinton believes, on her private conversations with wall street, that she didn't want anybody to know about. now you're deflecting to donald trump, the russians and talking about how these things may or may not be substantiated. they're substantiated beyond the fact they're hacked information. the american people have the right to know what the next president of the united states according to you feels about wall street and all of these other topics that she spoke on while she was paid by these same organizations. so you can talk about the russians. you can talk about hacked this, hacked that. you can blame donald trump. but the american people deserve answers. >> well, christi -- >> and it's not republican this. it's not the fault of the republicans she made these speeches. republicans didn't write these speeches for her. she wrote them along with her speech writers. these are her words. she should talk about them. >> scott, you have the last word here. >> real quick, the bottom line is this. is there any inconsistency whatsoever between what she said in her speeches -- >> yes. >> -- if they're accurate and what she said publicly? and everyone who looks at this is looking for the big bombshell. there isn't. they were completely consistent. and you can say it over and over again, stacy, but that doesn't make it true. you sound like donald trump. and he's inaccurate and most of the time in his pronouncements. >> i'm sorry -- >> you interrupted me as well. you don't respect me now? >> we're out of time. and i always appreciate the passionate conversation, though. thank you both. scott bolden -- >> thanks for having me on. >> appreciate your time. thank you. and remember, it is clinton versus trump this wednesday. the final presidential debate showdown. live coverage begins right here on cnn at 4:00 p.m. eastern. a domestic terror plot stopped in kansas. why investigators say three men planned to load trucks full of explosives, and who investigators say they intended to target. farm fresh ingredients, step-by-step recipes, delivered to your door for less than $9 a meal. get $30 off your first delivery blueapron.com/cook. the plan, allegedly, to pack four vehicles full of explosives and park them at four corners of an apartment complex in garden city, kansas. the target, they say, 120 somali immigrants living in that apartment complex. one of the units in the building is used as a mosque. >> now three men who are part of a militia group called the crusaders, they're in jail. they're charged with domestic terrorism. the department of justice said they had a very detailed plan. listen. >> it's alleged the defendants conducted surveillance to size up potential targets. they stockpiled firearms, ammunition, and explosive components. they even prepared a manifesto describing their beliefs to be published after the bombing. one of them said the bombing would "wake people up." >> the investigation took eight months. they were convicted of conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction. curtis allen, gavin wright, and patrick smith would face life in prison. more than 1,000 firefighters are battling a growing wildfire in nevada. it's the little valley fire. that's what it's being called. it's near lake tahoe. so far it's destroyed 22 homes. now, firefighters say strong winds are making it really difficult to contain the fire. right now we're told it's roughly 20% contained. at least four people were treated for smoke inhalation and the governor has declared a state of emergency for that area. if you're going to go swimming with sharks -- >> let's stop there. >> more power to you. >> why are we going swimming with sharks? >> we're not. let's make that very clear. at least you'd think you could be safe if you're inside one of the cages, right? the steel cage. maybe not. look at this. can we drop the banner there? you saw the size of that great white shark there when it surfaced. according to the man who posted this video, what it's doing, look at this. it's going after a rope with tuna on it. but apparently when sharks lunge at food they are temporarily blinded. so the shark isn't attacking the cage. they say he's struggling against. and sharks, oh, my gosh, they can't swim backwards. so that's what happens. the good news is the dive instructor in the cage swam back up and climbed out of it unharmed. >> so now you're in a cage with a shark. >> no. no. i'm not. >> no, i'm not. >> all right. yeah. don't do that. donald trump, hillary clinton preparing for their third debate. but just so we don't forget the second one, "snl," they weighed in on some of the highlights. we'll have a bit of that next. well, car accidents. did you know this? 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[ laughter ] >> much better. now let's get this nightmare started. >> sometimes it feels like you need just a nice warm shot to get things going. for the, as they called it, the worst ever presidential debate. "saturday night live" not holding back when it comes to the state of this election. >> yeah. last night they took on not only the debate, which should point out, but some recent accusations and some missteps on both candidates' part. cnn's senior media correspondent brian stelter breaking it all down. this is where you have fun with your job, brian. >> oh, for sure. and we need it this week. we've got to dig deep this week to find some laughs after all the things we've heard during this season of this election. but "snl" last night did try to recreate the debate. oftentimes just using the candidates' own words. here was the portion of alec baldwin and kate mckinnon recreating the moment when trump brought up several of bill clinton's accusers who were in the audience. >> mr. trump, we received a lot of questions online about the audiotape that was released last week of you bragging about sexually assaulting women. >> listen, what i said is nothing compared to what bill clinton has done. okay? he has abused women. and martha, anderson, hold on to your nips and your nuts. because four of those women are here tonight. four of them. >> wait. i'm sorry. who's here? >> mistresses? bill, how could you? how will i go on with the debate? i'll never be able to remember my facts and figures now. oh, donald, no! get real. i'm made of steel. this is nothing. hi, girls. >> maybe that's what people imagined would happen. i was talking to a group of comedians the other day who said they actually have a very hard time making fun of this election because so much of it is inherently either depressing or already funny. but "snl," they're trying to exaggerate the debate pretty effectively. >> and there were several awkward moments, some uncomfortable moments. and "snl," they certainly captured them. >> yeah, trump has denied encroaching on clinton's space during the debate. there was one of those moments where he seemed to be right behind her in one of the camera angles. so "snl" also parodied that. take a look. >> can't deny you coverage because of a pre-existing conditi condition. ♪ [ "jaws" music ] and number three -- sorry. i thought i -- number three. women can't be charged more than -- i thought i -- women can't be charged more than men for health insurance. okay in and number 4 -- ♪ >> i think i've seen that movie before. i don't know about you guys. i think anderson and martha were the real winners of the debate and definitely the winners of that sketch last night. >> absolutely. and "snl," they bring it every week. looking forward to next week. >> no doubt about it. it just amazes me the talent on that show. not only to come up with the sketches -- >> and to do it so quickly. >> but the imitations. >> yeah. >> fabulous. brian stelter, always good to have you here. thank you, sir. >> thanks. >> and you know, you can get more brian stelter. his show "reliable sources" this morning at 11:00 a.m. eastern right here on cnn. and guess what is this it's almost 7:00 already. >> yeah, it is. you get more of us too. next hour of your new day starts right after a quick break. ple tn the things they love to do most on these balloons. travel with my daughter. roller derby. ♪ now give up half of 'em. do i have to? 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