indeed, directed by the russian government as the u.s. government is trying to prove, that russia understands the most important part of changing the mind of your opposition is to get to know people, to build relationships. they have several different levels of operative that reaches out in different countries to put forth the russian point of view. where butina would fall is an agent of influence rather than an official spy and that is probably why the u.s. government is not trying to make a case against her for espionage, but, instead, as than unregistered agent of foreign influence. in that role, what she would do is much like an intelligence officer, a diplomat, or a journalist, build relationships with her target audience. what i find interesting about this is there has been, you know, of course, no end of talk about russian meddling and we look at this as a cyberworld. this is very old school and sort
perfectly capable of setting in waiting of learning. leland: everyone s weather summaries pop up and launch a test missile and show exactly what their power is. we haven t done that in the cyberworld. spirit that s correct. we have not. our policy says in order to do an offensive plan, it takes level after level of approval different than what it is in other domains of war. air, land, sea. when it comes to space in cyberspace, we have a different set of policy guidelines would like to respond. leland: president trump jen roberts treated out it doesn t matter what happens in this meeting. even if they gave them the keys to the city of moscow. fair critique? yes, it is. that is part of our system. our colleagues on the other side of the aisle, democrats are going to be critical. one or two might say was good that he met.
remember exactly when. but marco rubio warned the tables can be turned. so if the russians help you in one election, maybe they ll help the other team on the next election. bobby, jump in. if i could. just one thing. last august, the department of defense elevated the cybercommand to a combatant command element within the structure of the defense department. that s a significant move in the cyberworld and cybersecurity world to now have our fighti ii forces at the pentagon elevated to that level. i ve spoken with and visited some of my counterparts in the cyberworld at department of homeland security last october. and there are thicngs happening within the justice department and executive branch and especially at the defense department and but also at homeland security. there are programs being implemented. there is things happening. it might not be so public. the biggest public thing happened last august when the pentagon elevated the cybercommand to be an equal
somebody rewarded is coming out of technical schools, graduate program gets more points than somebody getting a bachelor s degree, somebody in engineering program gets more than, say, a lawyer. steve: plenty of those. exactly. what we have now is a competition for labor around the world, for technical workers, and so this gives us a little more level playing field. let me tell you why it s so important, steve. we for a cyberwar today, we really are. we all know it, it s hard to quantify what is an act of warfare in the cyberworld but i believe years from now we ll look back at this point in time in history and certain acts have been perpetrated that qualify affects war, we will see that. one of the ways you defend yourself is have the best and the brightest talent in the world. why wouldn t we do that? and we always did that, that helped create the economic miracle over the last seven years, we have the best qualified people in the world. look at nuclear capability today? came from i
of technical schools, graduate program gets more points than somebody getting a bachelor s degree, somebody in engineering program gets more than, say, a lawyer. steve: plenty of those. exactly. what we have now is a competition for labor around the world, for technical workers, and so this gives us a little more level playing field. let me tell you why it s so important, steve. we for a cyberwar today, we really are. we all know it, it s hard to quantify what is an act of warfare in the cyberworld but i believe years from now we ll look back at this point in time in history and certain acts have been perpetrated that qualify affects war, we will see that. one of the ways you defend yourself is have the best and the brightest talent in the world. why wouldn t we do that? and we always did that, that helped create the economic miracle over the last seven years, we have the best qualified people in the world. look at nuclear capability today? came from immigrants. a lot of the technica