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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 10:25:00

custody fights. i was at their house and i think lloyd had just served another petition for child custody of the younger child. and she was frustrated. her life was looking very positive and then this came up again. objective appraisal or friends taking sides? either way, they insisted michele wasn t a frazzled, out-of-control single mom. she was making the best of a bad situation. and dealing with an ex who d demeaned her for years. basically, everything she did was criticized. he made her feel she was really ugly. he made her feel that she couldn t make any right decisions. she was a lousy mother. that she couldn t do anything right. so, homicide versus suicide. on the one hand, a nasty divorce may have given michele plenty of reasons to be depressed and want a way out. but it was a police photo of michele s bedroom that caused investigator heard to think otherwise. you can see where her bed

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:23:00

make any sense to you? no. she had told me, she s like i know her friends, she would never do this to herself. we were just with her the other night. we were having a great time. she wouldn t do this. it s not exactly evidence, but it s a piece. it s not evidence at that point. and when police formally interviewed the friends she got a different picture of michele and their divorce. they said lloyd was the crazy one. relentlessly badgering his ex-wife with dragged out custody fights. i was at their house and i think lloyd had just served another petition for child custody of the younger child. and she was frustrated. her life was looking very positive and then this came up again. objective appraisal or friends taking sides? either way, they insisted michele wasn t a frazzled, out-of-control single mom. she was making the best of a bad situation. and dealing with an ex who d demeaned her for years. basically, everything she

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:24:00

make any sense to you? no. she had told me, she s like i know her friends, she would never do this to herself. we were just with her the other night. we were having a great time. she wouldn t do this. it s not exactly evidence, but it s a piece. it s not evidence at that point. and when police formally interviewed the friends she got a different picture of michele and their divorce. they said lloyd was the crazy one. relentlessly badgering his ex-wife with dragged out custody fights. i was at their house and i think lloyd had just served another petition for child custody of the younger child. and she was frustrated. her life was looking very positive and then this came up again. objective appraisal or friends taking sides? either way, they insisted michele wasn t a frazzled, out-of-control single mom. she was making the best of a bad situation. and dealing with an ex who d demeaned her for years. basically, everything she did was criticized. he made her feel she was re

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20220123 09:24:00

and then there was michele s friend rose. she rushed up to the scene with something urgent to say. apparent suicide. did that make any sense to you? no. she had told me, she s like i know her friends, she would never do this to herself. we were just with her the other night. we were having a great time. she wouldn t do this. it s not exactly evidence, but it s a piece. it s not evidence at that point. and when police formally interviewed the friends she got a different picture of michele and their divorce. they said lloyd was the crazy one. relentlessly badgering his ex-wife with dragged out custody fights. i was at their house and i think lloyd had just served another petition for child custody of the younger child. and she was frustrated. her life was looking very positive and then this came up again. objective appraisal or friends taking sides? either way, they insisted michele wasn t a frazzled, out-of-control single mom. she was making the best of a bad situation

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline Extra 20220214 05:23:00

another petition for child custody of the younger child. and she was frustrated. her life was looking very positive and then this came up again. objective appraisal or friends taking sides? either way, they insisted michele wasn t a frazzled, out-of-control single mom. she was making the best of a bad situation. and dealing with an ex who d demeaned her for years. basically, everything she did was criticized. he made her feel she was really ugly. he made her feel that she couldn t make any right decisions. she was a lousy mother. that she couldn t do anything right.

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