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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190705:06:12:00

piled onto the grief of the nance family in 2009. it s kind of scary that somebody could be out there that s capable of doing these type of things. reporter: the answer wouldn t bring her back, of course. nothing was going to be the way it was ever again. but finding out who did it? now that was a need. intense. the dallas police department was zeroing in on the boyfriend, nathan. and so detectives decided to interview daniel a second time. after all, he lived with nathan. maybe daniel could tell them more. and then something odd happened. daniel changed his own story a little. remember the story of where he was day of the murder? this time, he added something. 10:15 to 10:20 you were at starbucks. where did you go? to white rock lake. okay, specifically at white rock lake, where?

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190705:06:34:00

look at me in the face. reporter: chris phillips saw daniel in court, too, when chris testified for the state. i m very cool under pressure, but something about seeing him that day was very shocking to me. i look over at daniel and i gave him a nod, like, i see you. and he nods back. and there was just kind of this this i don t know this tension. reporter: scott goldstein covered the trial. could tell right away this could be unusual. the opening line, i think, for the prosecutors was, there are two people on the face of the earth who could ve done this. they said up front that it s about these two these two men. reporter: nathan and daniel. a boyfriend incapable of murder, the prosecutor would say, and that boy s roommate, driven by jealousy. we couldn t just go in and say, here s the here s the physical evidence, and the circumstantial evidence, and you know he did it. we had to then show all the evidence that we had that showed nathan didn t do it, becaus

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190705:05:40:00

the summer, i think it was like july of 2009, that she had a boyfriend. she said, by the way, mom, i ve got a boyfriend. i m like, you do? she said, yeah, and and dad probably wouldn t like him too much, cause he s got, like, a lip piercing and some tattoos. reporter: but, she told her mom, they hadn t even kissed yet. she, as far as i know, had only held his hand like once. she s just naive that way. i sheltered her. reporter: sister shauna was the only one in the family who d met nathan. she introduced me to him as her friend, not her boyfriend. what was he like? he was just a nice, goofy kid. i mean, they were joking and making jokes and laughing and having a good time. and you could tell she liked him. she would blush and kinda giggle, and reporter: really? you hadn t seen that from her before? not like that, no. reporter: it was a fellow art student, chris phillips, who saw them as a couple.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190705:05:53:00

lunches, you were, you know, cleaning up after him. you were driving him to school. he was afraid? yes. i was like reporter: little nervous? a father to him, yes. reporter: or or the way but he reporter: but the way it was described later was more like you were a mother to him. i mean, you were well, yes, that was his own his own words. daniel worried about nathan, he said. saw early red flags in nathan s behavior toward this first girlfriend of his. nathan, he said, seemed obsessed with shelley. maybe dangerously. i started to notice that nathan had missed his classes. and finally, i talk to shelley s roommate, ashley, and what she told me shocked me because from her own words, nathan was actually stalking shelley everywhere she goes. and after shelley was murdered, he said, he saw scratches on nathan s body. which, in fact, the police had noticed, too. and then daniel added something very interesting he picked up nathan from school

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