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Injunctions that the lower courts had instituted here to say, were just going to look at the people in front of us now. the court was very careful yesterday in its orders not to say a word about the merits of the plaintiffs claims under the establishment clause, and under the immigration laws. >> okay. so, dan, then, it is looking like a big fight coming in the fall. sounds like youre expecting claims leading up to that, but are you getting any sort -- obviously you have a perspective on this, b...

>> poppy? >> all right, guys. also this week, president trumps new travel ban is set to take effect. its going to happen on thursday. it, of course, has a chorus of critics who say this is the same bill, different wrapping paper, same executive order. they say this discriminates against muslims. will it hold up to the court challenges that took it down on the first try? >> joining us to discuss, andre segura with aclu and dan stein, president for the federation for american immigration reform. n...

Courts allow you to look beyond the four corners of a document to say there was discriminatory intent. >> youre looking at intent. for our viewers, correct me if im wrong, when the president said during the campaign that he will institute a muslim ban. legally thats a hard argument to make, that intent before someone was in office is what is part and parcel -- >> this is directly connected to what he wanted. im going to have a complete and total shutdown on muslim immigration. this is what hes t...

Virginia looked at the trump administrations campaign statements and thats been very clear from the beginning. he called for a muslim ban. the trump administration would have to build a time machine, go back in time and basically change everything that he said about muslim ban. >> dan stein, rebut that presumption, that the second version is just a nicer version of the first with the same fundamental problem that it will ultimately target muslims. >> look, this so-called travel ban -- not a musl...

Wanting to fight for the rights of somebody wanting to come in? >> were taking a close look at that. we have no precedent for what mr. trump is doing right now. >> dan stein, final word? >> they have to -- >> thats a lot of ns. >> you worked hard on that. >> so is spiro agney. under the constitution, on question of authority -- >> i dont know what authority mr. stein wouldnt give the president on immigration. >> ive been studying immigration policy for 40 years. theres no standing. >> dan stein,...

Like in plattsburgh, where the most advanced transportation is already en route. and in corning, where the future is materializing. let us help grow your companys tomorrow - today at esd.ny.gov the new travel ban executive order could be announced today. how will it be different than the first one? joining us, dan stein, president of the federation for american immigration reform or f.a.i.r. he favors the presidents actions on immigration. and andre segura from the aclu who oppose z the travel...

Congress for the american people strikes at the very heart of sovereignty. remember, the president is the commander-in-chief. if we have a sovereign that dissolves to one person, the close approximation is the president. he has to be able to prosecute foreign wars, control the borders and conduct foreign wars. >> thats crazy. he said things like the first amendment, the fourth amendment. those are the bedrock principles of this country. thats what the aclu stands for. the aclu is not in a positi...

That doesnt strengthen their case if thats the rationale. theyll have a phase-in period. because theyll exclude aliens who had substantial contact with the u.s. already like green card holders, f 1 visa and are re-entering. its likely thats eel confine it to people who have had no prior contact with the u.s. to try to minimize the possibility for legal standing. we know the aclu doesnt want any immigration control, so theyll probably bring 50 different lawsuits to try to get one judge as they di...

A bit so i could talk to members of congress, particularly the leadership of committees like this to prepare them for what was coming. >> reporter: not surprisingly, president trump keeping up the drum beat on twitter. his tweet this morning, if the u.s. does not win this case as it so obviously should, we can never have the security and safety to which we are entitled. chris and alisyn? >> joe, thank you very much. for more analysis lets bring in staff attorney at aclu, andre segura and dan ste...

Presidents really important need. >> both sides make the charge that the executive order is playing into isis hands. to dans point, let me get you to respond to this. the solicitor general made the point that the case law shows they dont have to prove it is a ban of all muslims, they have to prove it is in part motivated by an intention to ban muslims and pointing to the presidents own words and the actions of rudy giuliani. what do you make of that? is that compelling? the judge said, so its an...