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Trump presidency. >> not just the democrats who stepped up. merkel and trudeau. macron. the list goes on and on. lets talk about what is next. julian, who carries his legacy? you look at bob corker is out. jeff flake is out. paul ryan is out. they are leaving. perhaps nikki haley or ben sasse? >> the senate is divided deeply. he is final voice of that generation. he understood that as well. im not sure. maybe susan collins at this point is the last standing person who embodies those ideals. that...

Pedal his career. he spoke about his imperfect legacy. that is part of his story. the relationship between the gop and its fringe elements that came together under president trump. >> you know, his legacy is obviously unmatched, daniel. the president had very little to say about it. in fact, he didnt say anything at all other than sympathy and respect. then he posed an instagram of himself. meanwhile all of the other statesmen, people from around the world, diplomats and other party leaders and ...

Reagan revolution. some ways, that is as important as his record as a maverick. >> daniel. >> i think how he put principle instead of party forward. when he fell short, he confessed to it and admitted to it. there are a lot of congress members who dont operate with the same principles as john mccain. they dont have principles or those that do, they are willing to throw out the window in terms of political convenience. he has a lot of lessons he can teach every politician in america. >> daniel, y...

Hes -- >> no, maam. no, maam. hes a decent family man and citizen that i just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues. thats what this campaign is all about. hes not. thank you. >> you know, you look at that clip and he doesnt even hesitate. he doesnt make one move in the other direction. daniel, he just does the right thing there. what do you make of that? >> it is hard to imagine that happening at the trump rally. they dont have town halls for president trump. it is hard to see...

Brian: i agree that might be what the republicans want out. i actually believe thats what the democrats are going to do. if they are going to do it. can you tell me whats in americas interest? is that immigration reform? is that reigning in our welfare system. find ago way to pay for medicare in the long term? does that do anything for healthcare at all? nothing. all it is, we have got to knock him thought 2020. are we really going to waste another two years? >> well, brian, you have to understa...

Backlash if you dont take a stand and then you fear the backlash from the people that you do want to take a stand. >> first of all as a business owner you cant avoid this topic. its not one that youll be able to side step. and in some ways its getting much more pronounced because through social media my ability to influence isnt based on a capital campaign. i dont have to pay folks to get out and protest. i can do it very effectively just online. so my advice to most business owners is prepare f...

To refuse to make a wedding cake for a same sex couple on religious grounds. how wise is it to reject any customer based on their believes? daniel has conducted research on employee and consumer reactions to companies that take controversial political stands and chairman of the delfi group and good to see both of you. >> thank you, j.j. >> this is so interesting to me. and i actually want to flip this discussion, because there are some cases where you want to make a stand, you probably know what...

>> right. if youre talking about it publicly. >> yes. >> because surely a lot of founders, ceos, have very strong believes about things right now, and daniel, they are not transferring it to the company and what the company stands for. >> yeah, this is a question that comes up a lot and i think a lot of ceos, they can sometimes be overeager to put their own personal views on the company. i think thats a mistake. i think that the -- if a company does take a stand its got to come from the organiza...

Brookings institute. there had been a break-in at daniel else brgs psychiatrists office. all the things i listed that resulted in me not being very surprised by watergate happening. >> senator santorum was saying there are other things he thinks the american people care about more. something nixon said in 1973, he said people got to know whether or not their president is a crook. michael cohen today accused donald trump of being a crook. he said, im a crook. he pleaded guilty. and he said, by th...

As of today. weve thrown it around before but today we had someone stand up in court under oath, by the way, it wasnt just any someone. it was the presidents personal lawyer who said i was directed to do this by donald trump. its a remarkable thing. daniel is right. cohen did not need to go there. he did. one other point i would like to amplify. like daniel, im a bit confused why theres no cooperation language in this agreement, but nothing in the agreement precludes him from accommodating down ...