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Thinking and get you to give up. the traditional elements within the republican party have given up. >> but david, are you just -- the misinformation isnt the end. its a means to an end and what ben describes and what youre talking about is a policy of appeasement. appeasing what? what is the end game? >> it is their only winning coalition, right? we know that. we know the coalition republicans have chosen to cobble together is a minority of the nation, and so you have to win by cheating and by ...