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Walmart, to stores. >> and the phone company knows all the numbers that i call. why is that so different from what was going on here? >> sure, when we do a deal with google to provide internet service, we know theyre going to use their privacy -- stwing upon our privacy in some ways, with golf club ads, whatever, based upon our usage of the internet. but i dont think we knew that the government was going to write down or record somewhere every call weve made and be able to go back and check it o...

Later was under at least preliminary investigation by the fbi. without the ability to plug that number into that database, if those numbers didnt exist, we would never be able to know the connection between who he was talking to in san diego and who that guy in san diego was talking to in new york. now, some might argue, well, i dont care. i just dont want those phone numbers without names and without addresses in a lock box at all, then we need to say, well, what is the consequence of not havin...

>> no, i dont. ill use the zazi case, the bombings, the plot to blow up trains in new york. a terrorist phone number was obtained, and they plugged it into this database. remember, theres no names and no addresses in it. they had a known terrorist that had a phone number that appeared to be domestic in the united states. so overseas, looked like he was talking to somebody in the united states. they plugged that number in and found two connections, one in, i believe, san diego and one in new york...

Fareed, nsa puts them in a very large database. and then sits and waits until it has a predicate related to terrorism, an arguable proposition that a reasonable man would look at and say, yeah, this is correct to ask that database a question. let me give you a concrete example. we raid a safe house somewhere in yemen. we pick up a cell phone weve never seen before. theres pocket litter in the possession of the individual clearly indicating hes affiliated with al qaeda, hes a terrorist. we take t...

Thats different than prescribing it at a frequency or time period than people with other issues. >> sitting here on television having this argument, its like, quite honestly we dont even pitch stories about marijuana anymore. it feels like same sex marriage. it feels like youre having this argument in 1958, quite honestly. the train has left the station, when it comes to this. it feels like a lot of the arguments that people use about marijuana are the same arguments that were used about alcohol...

And thats -- this thing is not limited to terrorism. if it were limited to terrorism, i think the discussion would go away. its not limited to terrorism. once you get the -- once the fbi gets the information, then the question is, who can look at it, what can you do with the information. i mean, theres a lot of stuff you can get if you just run through phone calls. somebodys calling escort service, an aids doctor, bankruptcy attorney, theres a lot of stuff that would be interesting to know about...

Happen ton personally like but hes pro-second amendment pro-gun rights, very anti any new form on gun control or background checks and yet, hes one of the first people to pop up in the last week whole heartily endorsing the nsa gathering all the information about americans, seemingly oblivious and one of his arguments against background checks is why should the government have all this information on us? >> the nra came out and said after sandy hook what we should have is a database of everybody...

First people to pop up in the last week whole heartily endorsing the nsa gathering all the information about americans, seemingly oblivious and one of his arguments against background check social securis is why sho government have all this information on us? >> the nra came out and said after sandy hook what we should have is a database of everybody thats mentally ill and well track them to make sure they dont do anything dangerous. thats a violation of privacy but if you dont know who has thes...

Happen ton personally like but hes pro-second amendment pro-gun rights, very anti any new form on gun control or background checks and yet, hes one of the first people to pop up in the last week whole heartily endorsing the nsa gathering all the information about americans, seemingly oblivious and one of his arguments against background checks is why should the government have all this information on us? >> the nra came out and said after sandy hook what we should have is a database of everybody...

So lets take midar. you had authorized us to get midars phones in california. he was talking to the other four teams. under the business record because we had stored that information in a data base, you now have reasonable suspicion. we can take that number and go backwards in time and see who he was talking to. if we saw there were four other groups, we wouldnt know who those people were. wed only get the numbers. wed say this looks of interest. and pass that to the fbi. we dont look at u.s. --...