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Swinging. a lot of people probably not thought about him as a possible contender. i dont know, anti-obama quite possibly. >> hes using really harsh rhetoric, gretchen, youre right. i think this is a harbinger of things to come. come on, obama care is wildly unpopular. a lot of the policies, nsa, a lot of democrats thinking what this guy is saying privately but they dont have the guts to say it publicly. i think youll see a lot of democrats say, listen, im distancing myself. >> i oppose obama on ...