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0 assistant solicitor for when my dad became the solicitor, he had an assistant solicitors badge. when he passed away, i had his badge and that was -- at some point in time, you were asking somebody about two badges. that was the other badge. >> i got you. you said you did five criminal jury trails as a prosecutor, correct? >> assists in those or was doing them, yes, sir. i believe i was actually the lead lawyer in one of them. i helped my dad in the other four. >> still part of preparing the ca...