And oak creek, it is newtown that may end up being the inflexion point for measurable change. President obama suggested as much last night. We cant tolerate this anymore. These tragedies must end and to end them we must change. Its monday, december 17th. Joining me today msnbc contributor and editor of the grio. Com joy reid, former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, deputy new york city mayor Howard Wolfson and editor of the New York Times magazine edward lindgren. Jansing and companys Chris Jansing joins us now. You have been on the road a lot this year to some very terrible places in the wake of some very serious american tragedies, but this one, if i dare say it, seems a little bit different. Give us your sense of your take on the move as far as the mood on the ground and how the community is reacting m days since the tragedy. Alex, it would be difficult to even begin to try to express the depth and the breadth of the pain that this community is feeling and will feel all weeklong. T