but the flip side is true that if we intend to get any sustainable plan, we re going to have to have reductions to support that because we re not going to be able to convince congress to spend money on this until you show some it s a path down. i worry we re going to wind up with much large rer arsenals and that s i think a loser for all. sorry went on a little long. look forward to your questions. thank you very much. now we re going to turn to another facet of the weapons questioning and the tactical nuclear weapons. trine, thanks for being with us. the floor is yours. thank you and thank you for inviting me. i m really honored to speak to a such distinguished audience and i m so pleased to be in washington. it s always a treat to come to washington. in my studies, it seems nato is nuclear addicted, so the question that i ve asked myself after the publication of the deterrence review is nato still nuclear addicted? although now with the problems that nato is considering