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Dont want to come out or david doesnt want you to come out? he says, well, david doesnt think its necessary. >> for agent sage, a heated phone conversation that follows provokes a crucial realization about koresh. >> at one point he is talking about my salvation and i said, david, i am absolutely confident in my salvation as a christian. and you, partner, are not in a position to judge me. now, that was a very calculated move because stop and think about it. if this individual was delusional and...

>> after the attorneys went in, there was -- david said that he was going to write his manuscript of the meanings of the seven seals. >> supposedly the manuscript will be koreshs proof that he is the lamb of god. at first koresh says it will take him two days to write about each seal. then it becomes two weeks, and then he says it will take a year. >> had there been serious preparation of the manuscripts, we would have waited. but there was none. >> on the 49th day of the siege, attorney general...

>> at this hour fbi agents are negotiating with the cult leader. he reportedly believes he is jesus christ. >> mr. koresh, how are you doing? >> fair to middling. >> i understand youve been wounded. will you describe your position? >> weakening. >> are you shot, sir? >> yes, i am. >> well, communications opened up pretty quickly. he loved to talk. he loved to hear himself talk. >> how is god going to talk to me in the latter days? so there will be no excuse. >> so there was no lack of communicat...

Were anticipating. we had buses lined up to receive everybody. >> he stated he received a message from god instructing him to wait. >> any doubts about who is calling the shots is suddenly gone. >> now we knew when we had a person who said he was speaking directly to god and god had told him to wait that this was not going to be normal. >> that was one of the first and more significant glimpses of the disingenuous nature of how david was dealing with us as far as promises and truthfulness. >> ar...

Lead your people out, david. be a messiah, not a destroyer. >> i will never forget the exact thought that went through my head when i saw the flames. thank god those mothers will bring their children out now, and we waited and waited and waited, and they didnt bring their children out. >> the entire scene unfolds before a live tv audience. >> look at that. this is gorgeous. >> there is tear gas that started on fire or something. >> the exuberance of a control room producer is tempered by the rea...

Another child comes out of the compound with a note pinned to her jacket. it says, "once the children are out, the adults will die." >> we never got another child out. we got a total of 21, and i will be eternally grateful for the fact that we were able to accomplish that. >> 27 children remained inside the compound. >> we continued to press david on that. david finally became very upset with the negotiator, and he stopped and yelled at them. he said, hey, you dont understand. the rest of these ...

Gas into the building. >> i learned of the gas that day. i didnt know that they were going to do that. and i thought, wow, well, theyre going to gas them out. >> exit the compound now. submit to the proper authority, david. you are under arrest. this standoff is over. >> i dont think we, the fbi, atf, anybody else ever had any control over how this was going end. i think the only control we truly had was when it was going to end. >> koresh had his playbook already decided in advance. that he wou...

Negotiators are stymied. theres still no progress. in a concession to davidian leader david koresh the fbi lets him speak to his attorney from inside the compound. >> im hopeful that this is some real progress and that we can bring this thing to an end real quickly. >> after the attorneys went in, there was -- david said that he was going to write his manuscript of the meanings of the seven seals. >> supposedly the manuscript will be koreshs proof that he is the lamb of god. at first koresh says...

Accepted him as having a message from god. >> clive doyle is a branch davidian survivor, and to this day a believer in david koresh. >> david was constantly talking to god. god told me to do this. god told me to do that. we accepted that. >> god speaks to me. i have a message to present. >> to outsiders koresh soon transformed the davidian church into a cult. >> the most important element of the cult is the leader. and theyre always described the same way as being charismatic. >> i mean, there a...

>> koresh had his playbook already decided in advance. that he would destroy his followers rather than to give up to the evil armies of the federal government. >> believe me, it will not get any better. it will only get worse. david, you have had your 15 minutes of fame. its time to leave the building. >> we banked on the fact that a parent if they found their children exposed to that kind of discomfort would move heaven and earth to get them to a position of safety. we were wrong. >> the beginn...