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He didnt have a chief of staff. he eventually hired one two years into his term. he said not having a chief of staff didnt work for him because theres too much to do as president. i think you agree with that, right? >> absolutely. there was a time republicans believed you had a pyramid structure. this came out of isha seseisenh. the president would have all these different people reporting to him, it was a disaster under carter. jerry ford tried it for a while, it was a disaster. the staff gave ...