her county she will bring an indictment if she thinks she can close the case. we ve heard obviously from special grand jurors earlier that they expected to bring indictments. we ve heard that there won t be any surprises. so we do expect something from the d.a. obviously, the tension in atlanta is getting really high. those staffers now have been told to work remotely. they re down to about 70% staff, as your package said. so we are anticipating anything, really any day now. we know it could be over the next couple of weeks. special grand juries meet in two panels during the week. all eyes are certainly on the fulton county courthouse and the d.a. will come out immediately after those are announced, when they re announced, and explain the decision whether she decided to go forward or not. let me ask you about that tension for a moment. when it comes to the security concerns. you have new reporting about a warning that d.a. willis sent to county leaders. and i just want to read a litt
the way you framed it, that this election is not over for the people of georgia. andrew, i do have to ask you really quickly about a point you brought up earlier, which is this comment from d.a. fani willis that any notion she was coordinating with the special counsel jack smith, she kind of dismissed that, saying she doesn t know what jack smith is doing, doesn t know he doesn t know what i m doing, in all honesty if jack smith was standing next to me i m not sure i would know who he was. talk to us a little about that. are you surprised by the fact that even though they are looking at a similar crime in nature, this attempt to overturn the election there is not a coordination, there is not a communication between the two offices? if not now, will there be at some point a convergence of interests and dialogue? i am surprised if that reporting is correct. and the reason is that because the subject matter of the two cases overlap you do need to coordinate on witnesses. in other wo
i mean, think about that. they have watched this man up close, especially people like nikki haley and tim scott. they know what a disaster he was as president. and are they really stepping lightly because they want to be his number two? have they talked to mike pence? how d that work out for mike pence? mike pence is barely registering in the polls. and he was number two. i would not recommend number two around donald trump unless you have a lot of lawyers on standby. yeah, i agree with you on that. harry, really quickly, you re saying there s smog else more at play here which is it s not just politics. you ve got to speak up for the constitution in this case. that s exactly right. it s not just politics 101. it s constitutional culture 101. i agree with everything charlie said and the most sobering word he used, post-democratic. we re watching a constitutional trainwreck in real time, and we re really in the territory of a republic if you can keep it, as lincoln famously said. i
department of justice at the time. he s also accused of lying to investigators. again, it is not the crime, folks. it is the cover-up, but there is a delay. de oliveira hasn t secured local counsel to represent him in florida so the judge asked him to return later, next thursday, to go about the arraignment. if all of this sounds familiar, that s because the other trump aide indicted in the classified documents case, the valet, walt nauta, twice had his not guilty plea postponed for the very same reason and perhaps you re saying to yourself, what a stroke of bad fortune. both indicted trump associates somehow unable to find a florida lawyer, thereby delaying their trials with the 2024 election fast approaching. go figure. this afternoon, there are also significant concerns surrounding de oliveira s legal fees, specifically who is going to pay for them. it s reportedly a trump pact and that raises a number of major
themselves do not have any traction with the message? everything you just said is true and these are all legitimate concerns, but i do think that it s important to say that that it is crucial that they are doing what they are doing. right. they are not getting any traction. right. but they are saying what needs to be said and so, you know, with all due respect to those of us on msnbc, are we breaking through the republican base, but chris christie might. will hurd said what is willing to be said and he s willing to go to the lion s den and asa hutchinson is willing to do this, as well and none of them are going to win the republican nomination and none of them will be president and there is baggage. hopefully they will be on the stage or at least chris christie will be on that debate stage and he will say things about donald trump that republican voters need to hear. whether it makes a difference, we don t know. history would suggest that it won t, but it is very important